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CDMA Hero root? Also G1 to CDMA Hero transfer advice!

I have been searching all week and can find no info on anyone having successfully rooted the Sprint (CDMA) Hero.
I'm sorry to post here but it seems to be the most active android modder board, has any Dev managed to acquire a CDMA hero and is any Dev attempting to root it?
Is this just wishful thinking on my part? I sincerely hope not!
After a week playing with I can say it blows the G1 away! Battery life, speaker quality, form factor, etc, far and away a better more reliable device.
A word of caution to anyone going from the TMobile G1 to the Sprint Hero... DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BACK UP YOUR APPS OR DATA ON THE G1 & THEN RESTORE THEM ON YOUR HERO! YOU WILL LOOSE NETWORK CONNECTION TO SPRINT! I suspect that apps & data downloaded & used thru the TMobile network on your G1 are unable to use a CDMA connection and attempt to modify your system to access the TMobile network. This breaks connectivity and only a wipe has fixed it (hard wipe using the ##786# menu + your individual reset code from Sprint). Your best hope is to re-download your apps. The good news is your download history should show most of your apps and allow you to download them from your CDMA Hero.
Moderators, my sincere apologies if you feel I posted in the wrong forum. I felt it best to reach the active modders I am aware of and offer some transfer advice for those making the switch.
Thanks all,
-Salamandar

salamandar said:
I have been searching all week and can find no info on anyone having successfully rooted the Sprint (CDMA) Hero.
I'm sorry to post here but it seems to be the most active android modder board, has any Dev managed to acquire a CDMA hero and is any Dev attempting to root it?
Is this just wishful thinking on my part? I sincerely hope not!
After a week playing with I can say it blows the G1 away! Battery life, speaker quality, form factor, etc, far and away a better more reliable device.
A word of caution to anyone going from the TMobile G1 to the Sprint Hero... DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BACK UP YOUR APPS OR DATA ON THE G1 & THEN RESTORE THEM ON YOUR HERO! YOU WILL LOOSE NETWORK CONNECTION TO SPRINT! I suspect that apps & data downloaded & used thru the TMobile network on your G1 are unable to use a CDMA connection and attempt to modify your system to access the TMobile network. This breaks connectivity and only a wipe has fixed it (hard wipe using the ##786# menu + your individual reset code from Sprint). Your best hope is to re-download your apps. The good news is your download history should show most of your apps and allow you to download them from your CDMA Hero.
Moderators, my sincere apologies if you feel I posted in the wrong forum. I felt it best to reach the active modders I am aware of and offer some transfer advice for those making the switch.
Thanks all,
-Salamandar
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you're probably in the right forum, since rooting is development. but i do think you should check out the hero forum just in case there's stuff about the Sprint Hero

I dont know much about it but maybe someone can clarify things...now i know cdma is what sprint, verizon, metro, cricket, etc use. Is cdma a hardware type thing or is it a network type thing? And can the sprint hero img be ported and modified to the g1 and somehow allowing it to be flashed to a metro/cricket type service?? Just questions im curious about...

thanks for the response, I agree and posted a different post related only to the Sprint Hero on that forum (hopefully i did not abuse the forum rules, if I did, I understand if a Dev locks or deletes one).

jj972 said:
I dont know much about it but maybe someone can clarify things...now i know cdma is what sprint, verizon, metro, cricket, etc use. Is cdma a hardware type thing or is it a network type thing? And can the sprint hero img be ported and modified to the g1 and somehow allowing it to be flashed to a metro/cricket type service?? Just questions im curious about...
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I may be wrong about this but to my knowledge, CDMA is a Network as well as Hardware and software type of thing. When Android was developed it was not capable of running on a CDMA network, one of many things added when Cupcake (firmware 1.5) was relased. CDMA is a network type so GSM only devices will not work on it and as far as I can tell devices built for CDMA are built specifically for that. There is some sort of hardware in there that allows the device to connect to the CDMA network that GSM only devices dont have. (I may be wrong about this though, I also believe it has to do with the radio).
Finally, I dont know what metro or cricket is and I also didn't know that the G1 was on those networks but if it is, I would assume that if those are CDMA networks its not the same G1 that was released on TMO and differers internally in that it can function on a CDMA network. If that is the case then its probably possible. If not then no.
Dont quote me on any of this. I'm not saying this from an experts point of view just from what I have concluded based on what I know about network types, devices and Android.

jj972 said:
I dont know much about it but maybe someone can clarify things...now i know cdma is what sprint, verizon, metro, cricket, etc use. Is cdma a hardware type thing or is it a network type thing? And can the sprint hero img be ported and modified to the g1 and somehow allowing it to be flashed to a metro/cricket type service?? Just questions im curious about...
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CDMA is hardware AND network... not software.

salamandar said:
I have been searching all week and can find no info on anyone having successfully rooted the Sprint (CDMA) Hero.
I'm sorry to post here but it seems to be the most active android modder board, has any Dev managed to acquire a CDMA hero and is any Dev attempting to root it?
Is this just wishful thinking on my part? I sincerely hope not!
After a week playing with I can say it blows the G1 away! Battery life, speaker quality, form factor, etc, far and away a better more reliable device.
A word of caution to anyone going from the TMobile G1 to the Sprint Hero... DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BACK UP YOUR APPS OR DATA ON THE G1 & THEN RESTORE THEM ON YOUR HERO! YOU WILL LOOSE NETWORK CONNECTION TO SPRINT! I suspect that apps & data downloaded & used thru the TMobile network on your G1 are unable to use a CDMA connection and attempt to modify your system to access the TMobile network. This breaks connectivity and only a wipe has fixed it (hard wipe using the ##786# menu + your individual reset code from Sprint). Your best hope is to re-download your apps. The good news is your download history should show most of your apps and allow you to download them from your CDMA Hero.
Moderators, my sincere apologies if you feel I posted in the wrong forum. I felt it best to reach the active modders I am aware of and offer some transfer advice for those making the switch.
Thanks all,
-Salamandar
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if u had used astro to back up your apps and install them one bye one u would not have had a problem

Thank you superg05 that's a good idea.

Android is capable of supporting both CDMA and GSM.

harpreet1988 said:
Android is capable of supporting both CDMA and GSM.
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it is now. but originally it was only built for GSM... only T-Mobile's GSM most likely lol

this is really dumb but has some tried one click root yet? or will that mess up the recovery image leading to a possible brick. becase its running 1.5 not 1.6 right?

I one click rooted my friends g1 the other day and it works fairly well. Don't think you can use the gsm hero root method to root a cdma hero.

Just fyi attempted to root the Sprint Hero using the one click method, but was unsucessful. I couldn't seem to back up the stock image. Any advice?

brianhaden said:
Just fyi attempted to root the Sprint Hero using the one click method, but was unsucessful. I couldn't seem to back up the stock image. Any advice?
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it would probably be best to wait till more people get their hands on the sprint hero. the more people that get their hands on it, the faster way a rooting method that works will be found

anyone working on rooting milestone?

wondering if anyone has heard anything on anytype of rooting for the telus motorola milestone. its hard to search for due to the euro milestone out there that always pops up, apparently the bootloader is encrypted not allowing anything not signed by them digitally
ive gotten 2.1 gallery on the phone but not MT so i use the stock 2.0.1 media gallery, and i have launcher2 running perfectly. wanting to get into root to overclock and get rid of the white top bar!
on that note, its an amazing phone if anyone is looking at getting it or already have it, i used 2.1 on my dream and its nice to be on this fast phone with fully working eclair! i reverted back to 1.6 cm 4.2.14.1 ? newest cm + blue haze addon, i can still have fun with my dream but i want to have the same fun on my milestone!

If a dev has the phone then it will most likely get root but I wasn't even aware you guys were getting the GSM Milestone. Don't worry you should visit Modaco's site they have like every android phone there.

Ace42 said:
If a dev has the phone then it will most likely get root but I wasn't even aware you guys were getting the GSM Milestone. Don't worry you should visit Modaco's site they have like every android phone there.
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yeah first one thats gsm, since euro milestone wasnt, and us droid wasnt. hopefully someone gets their hands on it soon! ill check out the site

This is another site too:
http://www.modmymoto.com/forums/index.php

Ace42 said:
This is another site too:
http://www.modmymoto.com/forums/index.php
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nothing there about telus motorola milestone's
motorola needs to release the damn digital signing codes so dev's can do their magic with the phone!

Alltel Rooting

Does anyone have any info on how to root an alltel hero. It comes with android 2.1 build number 2.33.556.1? I have tried all non-sprint cdma rooting methods but none of them work.

I have tried asking the same thing in various places and it seems to fall on deaf ears unfortunately. I am even willing to help if someone had anything they wanted me to try. I guess we'll have to wait until Sprint gets an update that locks out the downgrade loophole they are using now so they will be forced to look for another kernel exploit.
In the meantime, stay away from any future ota updates that might patch holes that haven't been found yet.
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I would also be willing to donate to anyone succesful in rooting the Alltel Hero!!!

I also would like to see the Alltel Hero rooted, and would be willing to help sponsor a reward for doing so. It is one big difference, under Windows Mobile it was so easy to just flash another rom, but with Android you have to get rooted before you can do much of anything.
--Mia

I've also tried every available method but none of which were Alltel specific to no avail. Never can get super user. Any help to root Alltel hero would be phenomenal. Sure could use carrier specific sticky. Carlsbad New Mexico at&t bought our Alltel but no changes as of yet.

[Q] Telus Milestone question

hey guys.. ive tried looking for this information but cant find it any where.. i currently have HTC desire and still have the 14 days to return the phone.. im thinking of goin with a Milestone because of the qwerty keyboard.. onscreen really isnt working for me.. i had a few questions:
1. Is it possible to flash another rom on the telus milestone (froyo most likely).. I have looked around for this.. some say u can some say u cant im really confused.. apparently its locked so u only put a ROM on top of the stock?? if that is the case then would it not be bogged down by the stock rom on there still?
2. If you can reflash or whatever its called to froyo.. would i lose warranty? i have the phone replacement with best buy.. would that be gone? and if yes, is there a way to go back to the stock rom so they would never know? i read somewhere that a telus stock rom doesnt exist.. so im not sure
3. i read somewhere that you cant manually link your phone and google contacts to facebook contacts.. is this true? because in my desire its very easy to do so.
4. why does everyone want to unlock 3g on telus phones? isnt the milestone already on the new hspa network??
5. (optional) is it a good idea to with the milestone over desire? i know opinions may be biased cuz its a milestone forum but just thought id ask.. im iffy about the lower cpu speed and half the ram.
thank you in advance for your help.. and sorry if i posted in the wrong section

azzarati said:
hey guys.. ive tried looking for this information but cant find it any where.. i currently have HTC desire and still have the 14 days to return the phone.. im thinking of goin with a Milestone because of the qwerty keyboard.. onscreen really isnt working for me.. i had a few questions:
1. Is it possible to flash another rom on the telus milestone (froyo most likely).. I have looked around for this.. some say u can some say u cant im really confused.. apparently its locked so u only put a ROM on top of the stock?? if that is the case then would it not be bogged down by the stock rom on there still?
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The only bit of the software left stock is the kernel. There won't be any noticeable decrease in free space when you flash a custom "rom". You just won't gain the performance benefits of a completely optimized kernel, which people are trying to work around.
azzarati said:
2. If you can reflash or whatever its called to froyo.. would i lose warranty? i have the phone replacement with best buy.. would that be gone? and if yes, is there a way to go back to the stock rom so they would never know? i read somewhere that a telus stock rom doesnt exist.. so im not sure
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Technically you do lose your warranty, but it's easy to return to your stock firmware. There's a thread stickied in this forum for this very purpose.
azzarati said:
3. i read somewhere that you cant manually link your phone and google contacts to facebook contacts.. is this true? because in my desire its very easy to do so.
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The Facebook for Android application can do this for you.
azzarati said:
4. why does everyone want to unlock 3g on telus phones? isnt the milestone already on the new hspa network??
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I believe what you're referring to is when people with Telus milestones flash "roms" from different parts of the world. Usually it disables the frequencies needed for 3G in North America.
azzarati said:
5. (optional) is it a good idea to with the milestone over desire? i know opinions may be biased cuz its a milestone forum but just thought id ask.. im iffy about the lower cpu speed and half the ram.
thank you in advance for your help.. and sorry if i posted in the wrong section
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They're both great devices. The Milestone has the disadvantage of being locked down ridiculously tight by Motorola, but it's really up to preference. I'm going to make the assumption that you're not crazy about customizing your phone, in which case, you probably won't notice much difference. ROM availability is far superior for the Desire, though, due to it's unlocked bootloader. If a QWERTY keyboard is something you like, then the choice is pretty clear.
Lastly, this is the wrong section, lol.

okay thank you very much.. yes I wont be modding it too much .. however i would like to have froyo on it.. i was just scared that I will be wasting my phone replacement plan if i cant get it back to the stock rom..

What ROM should I get?

I had my TILT 2 for almost a year now. I don't know what to get. I am kind of scared which ROM to install. I read the forums but most of them are too in depth and complicated..a noob like wouldn't understand anything. My phone lags and freezes a lot. Can ROM solve this issue? If so what should I get? I am getting bored and annoyed with my phone please help. I know I am gonna get a lot of comment like "read the forums or something" I've been reading them and they don't really give the info I need.
I appreciate any suggestions and advices.
Thank You

JRM.joaquin said:
I had my TILT 2 for almost a year now. I don't know what to get. I am kind of scared which ROM to install. I read the forums but most of them are too in depth and complicated..a noob like wouldn't understand anything. My phone lags and freezes a lot. Can ROM solve this issue? If so what should I get? I am getting bored and annoyed with my phone please help. I know I am gonna get a lot of comment like "read the forums or something" I've been reading them and they don't really give the info I need.
I appreciate any suggestions and advices.
Thank You
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The stock ROMs are generally pretty bloated and prone to freezing. I would recommend that you read the Hard SPL thread, then go ahead and flash the Hard SPL. This will enable to you flash any ROM you like.
Once you have done that first step, just choose a ROM (look over the various choices in this section). You can always flash a different choice later.
WARNING: Make sure your phone is GSM before flashing a ROM from this forum!

^^^^ what he said
You've got nothing to lose and everything to gain by flashing a custom ROM - you can always try another one or go back to stock if you don't like it. Just make sure you back up any data that you want to restore (e.g. contacts, messages etc) before you flash.
All the info you need are in the stickies - e.g. the HardSPL thread for flashing HardSPL, and the "Flashing your First GSM Rhodium ROM" thread.
If you're not sure which ROM to pick, you could always just pick one of the most popular ones to start with, based on the assumption there must be a fairly good reason for those to be the more popular ones.

what I did
Hey
I am about to flash my phone too. I also have it for more then a year ( since last September ) and i did a bit of research just for piece of mind
The most important step is Hard SPL this is so if something goes horribly wrong u can still re-flash it to try and repair the damage ( someone confirm this: there no hardware damage done when u flash , its all just software), besides its also needed in order to flash custom roms aka cooked roms.
For what custom rom to get I did the folowing: sorted the threads based on stats ( posts / views ) and looked at the most popular ones and something struck: Energy rom by NRGZ28 is BY FAR the most popular one, so it must be good for a 1st try then some new unknown cooked rom
Also if you would like to get more info I found this youtube video ( 20 mins / 2 parts ) very informative:
Since I'm new and can't post links search for " Real Time ROM Flashing " and u will find it.

Goliath.ro said:
Hey
The most important step is Hard SPL this is so if something goes horribly wrong u can still re-flash it to try and repair the damage ( someone confirm this: there no hardware damage done when u flash , its all just software), besides its also needed in order to flash custom roms aka cooked roms.
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HardSPL removes the SPL lock which normally only allows flashing of ROMs officially released by your carrier. Without it, you won't be flashing anything, except official ROM updates from your carrier. Yes, HardSPL allows you to run Task29, which formats/wipes the memory. And in some cases this can help you recover from a bad flash. Sometimes flashing back to the stock ROM can help you recover as well.

Goliath.ro said:
Hey
IFor what custom rom to get I did the folowing: sorted the threads based on stats ( posts / views ) and looked at the most popular ones and something struck: Energy rom by NRGZ28 is BY FAR the most popular one, so it must be good for a 1st try then some new unknown cooked rom
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Energy ROM is what I use, and I love it. Its a good tradoff of speed/stability and looks/features. But some feel its not the fastest or most "lightweight" ROM out there. If you want that, some people have recommend Jackos or Valkyrie. Also, lots of people like Deep Shining.
There really is no "best" ROM. It depends on whether you prefer eye candy or speed (or somewhere in the middle), what kind of apps you like to have cooked in, etc.
But I agree to the previous advice given to the OP. Flashing a custom ROM will fix many, many things over the stock ROM. Your phone will be faster, more stable, and have more functionality and features. Figuring out how to flash a custom ROM can be a little intimidating at first. But once you've learned how to do it, its really a snap. And then you will wonder why you ever waited so long to do it! Just make sure you read all the "stickied" guides, read as much as you can about the ROM you are flashing, and follow the instructions carefully.

JRM.joaquin said:
I had my TILT 2 for almost a year now. I don't know what to get. I am kind of scared which ROM to install. I read the forums but most of them are too in depth and complicated..a noob like wouldn't understand anything. My phone lags and freezes a lot. Can ROM solve this issue? If so what should I get? I am getting bored and annoyed with my phone please help. I know I am gonna get a lot of comment like "read the forums or something" I've been reading them and they don't really give the info I need.
I appreciate any suggestions and advices.
Thank You
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I recommend Jackos S2 Rom. It is by far the fastest rom i've tried. When you first flash it, it looks very close to a stock rom and it works great just like that and if you want to, you can modify it to your liking. If you want to take a look, you can find the thread here--->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=632617. If you want to see what it looks like modified, take a look at my profile pic. Jackos rom has been what i've used for the last few months. Like everyone else before me said, do the HSPL before anything.

Thanks everyone. Really really appreciate all the comments. You guys definitely gave me enough ideas and confidence to flash my phone. I can't wait XD

JRM.joaquin said:
Thanks everyone. Really really appreciate all the comments. You guys definitely gave me enough ideas and confidence to flash my phone. I can't wait XD
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You can also read ROM reviews on The Wingster. But there's no best ROM as everyone said. Find something that fits what you need....
If you want SPEED: Choose a Sense 2.1 ROM or even a ROM without Sense (a.k.a. Titanium)
If you want FEATURES: Choose a Sense 2.5 ROM, with CookieHomeTab or another similar enhancement. They will be slower overall, but they have some neat extra features.
Go with Windows Mobile 6.5.5 unless you really like the Windows Mobile 6.5 design.
Then test out a few ROM's and see what works for you.
If you need any help, in addition to the forums, you can use the Support link on The Wingster and I can help you out. But if you read all of the instructions, everything should work well!

I did my little research and I believe it's a GSM. My phone is TILT 2..is that right?

JRM.joaquin said:
I did my little research and I believe it's a GSM. My phone is TILT 2..is that right?
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If you bought your phone from AT&T, then YES it is a Tilt 2, which is GSM.
Your phone is always GSM except if you bought it from Verizon, Sprint, or Telus. Every other provider (T-Mobile, AT&T, and worldwide ones) is GSM!
So if yours is GSM, pick any ROM from the forums here.

Check under the battery if it takes a SIM card its gsm..

jcxtreme30 said:
Check under the battery if it takes a SIM card its gsm..
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Umm, no, that's wrong, sorry. CDMA phones still have a SIM card slot.

steviewevie said:
Umm, no, that's wrong, sorry. CDMA phones still have a SIM card slot.
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Only CDMA Worldphones do have a sim slot.

Sorry guys, but I´m a little bit noobish about that. How can I get if I am "GSM" or "CDMA" with Touch Pro 2 for sure ? I still don´t get the signs of recognizing....
I saw some thread about it, but still do not understand the problem of this separation.

Jackos said:
Only CDMA Worldphones do have a sim slot.
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Yeah but this is the Rhodium forum, and were're talking about Rhodiums. So my answer was about CDMA Rhodiums (which are Worldphones).

Unilqadium said:
Sorry guys, but I´m a little bit noobish about that. How can I get if I am "GSM" or "CDMA" with Touch Pro 2 for sure ? I still don´t get the signs of recognizing....
I saw some thread about it, but still do not understand the problem of this separation.
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Take the back off your phone, remove the battery, and look for some lettering under there. It should say "RHODxxx", where the "xxx" are three digits.
RHOD100, RHOD200, RHOD300 (and variants) are GSM. RHOD400 and RHOD500 are CDMA.

steviewevie said:
Umm, no, that's wrong, sorry. CDMA phones still have a SIM card slot.
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Yea only a dual band phone would still have a slot if it has gsm slot its gsm or dual band point blank... Know what your talking about before you speak..

can a world phone use these roms?
i just got my touch pro 2 off ebay for $200, new in box, which is a pretty good deal. Anyway I want 2 flash one of these roms. The phone's original company is Telus. This phone's marked RH0D500, it's got a GSM slot but is listed as CDMA... (I'm on at&t) From what I read it seems that this has to be treated as a CDMA phone? r there any cdma roms that will still allow me to get corporate emails and use all the good functions of this phone? Oh if anyone's interested the guy i got it from on ebay has like 5 more, but if they're only going to work with CDMA roms then people should probably not buy them for that reason...

panda4sale said:
i just got my touch pro 2 off ebay for $200, new in box, which is a pretty good deal. Anyway I want 2 flash one of these roms. The phone's original company is Telus. This phone's marked RH0D00, it's got a GSM slot but is listed as CDMA... (I'm on at&t) From what I read it seems that this has to be treated as a CDMA phone? r there any cdma roms that will still allow me to get corporate emails and use all the good functions of this phone? Oh if anyone's interested the guy i got it from on ebay has like 5 more, but if they're only going to work with CDMA roms then people should probably not buy them for that reason...
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As far as I am aware "RHOD00" is not a valid marking. Is that a typo? Or maybe you should look again. It should be RHOD100, RHOD200, RHOD300, RHOD400, RHOD500, and there may be some variants, like RHOD210. But there should be 3 digits after "RHOD" under the battery. Looking around the net, the Telus version should be RHOD500.
All the "CDMA" variants of the Touch Pro 2 actually also have a GSM radio as well (and therefore a SIM slot) since they are intended for "World" use (international travel). This is because CDMA alone is nearly useless for foreign travel, since most countries outside of North America use GSM. So the presence of a SIM slot will not tell you whether its GSM or CDMA.
For the purposes of these forums, the versions of the TP2 that are CDMA/GSM are considered "CDMA" and can only flash the CDMA ROMs. Phones that are solely GSM radio should only be flashed with GSM ROMs. Flashing a GSM ROM to a CDMA/GSM Rhodium will render it inoperative.
The Telus version of the TP2 looks to have the correct GSM bands (850 and 1900 MHz) to work on ATT. But the phone will need to be SIM unlocked, if it isn't already. If you Google around, you will find some posts on the net (and probably on here too), where people have gotten the CDMA/GSM versions to work on AT&T and T-Mobile, so it should work (if SIM unlocked). But it appears you will only have EDGE data speed, not 3G, since the HSDPA/UMTS radios seem to be missing from the Telus version, based on looking at the phone's specs.
You would have been better off buying the ATT version of the phone, the Tilt2. Its the only version that has the necessary hardware to get 3G data speeds on the ATT network. And you should completely understand all the specs before you buy any phone that isn't from your carrier.