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UPDATE 7712 is Available for download via 'ZUNE FOR MANGO' for all those of you on Mango Beta.
This is called a REFRESH UPDATE ( Its the most closest to the RTM BUILD 7720)
THERE WILL BE NO RTM FOR BETA USERS, AND YOU WILL HAVE TO REVERT BACK TO NODO TO UPDATE TO MANGO WHICH WILL BE RELEASED IN AUGUST
"We didn't do enough testing on this particular build to get the green light to do fully public release. It is stable, but not tested to the extent we do for full public releases. This was a major reason on why you see this released as a 'refresh' rather than as a 'beta 3'. The RC (in Aug) will be released publicly (and freely) to all again"
AND HERE
"For the folks wondering why we’re not providing the ‘RTM’ version, there are two main reasons. First, the phone OS and the tools are two equal parts of the developer toolkit that correspond to one another. When we took this snapshot for the refresh, we took the latest RC drops of the tools and the corresponding OS version. Second, what we are providing is a genuine release candidate build, with enough code checked in and APIs locked down that this OS is close enough to RTM that, as a developer, it’s more than capable to see you through the upcoming RC drop of the tools and app submission. It’s important to remember that until the phone and mobile operator portion of Mango is complete, you’re still using a pre-release on your retail phone – no matter the MS build. Until that time, enjoy developing and cruising around on build 7712 – it’s a sweet ride, to be sure. "
First, next time try to use smaller font size.
For the second, Mango is not yet RTM, it was just a rumor.
Like Bill Cox from M$ wrote: For those following the rumor mill, Mango has not yet hit RTM. We’re excited about the progress... stay tuned.
Can you please make the letters a little bit bigger? I find them difficult to read...
So now it's official. Mango is RTM
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I'm downloading some kind of update now for the hd7, fingers crossed....
for some odd reason, I can't edit my post while using my hd2, but this update has taken 40 minutes so far, and it's still on step 8....
Are you on MANGO BETA?
Please let us know how you get on
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_phone/b/windowsphone/archive/2011/07/26/windows-phone-mango-released-to-manufacturing.aspx
Cause sinse its RTMed I am hoping we get to update it with zune if people are on the beta
I didn't try the beta, I stayed stock. I don't think it's Mango though, the os version says 7.0.7392.0.
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Are you on MANGO BETA?
Please let us know how you get on
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_phone/b/windowsphone/archive/2011/07/26/windows-phone-mango-released-to-manufacturing.aspx
Cause sinse its RTMed I am hoping we get to update it with zune if people are on the beta
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You will be required to downgrade to NODO in order to be later upgraded to Mango RTM.
I'd wait for your carrier to actually start pushing Mango before downgrading if you like the features in Mango. It could be quite some time (just ask a Samsung Focus owner how long it took to get NODO).
Interesting post here
looks like MS don't wanna push it early to the DEV's as BETA was leaked and also as It was just an MS IMAGE without the proper OEM DRIVERS etc,
DUH.
wow wow wow. Whats the latest version to the mango Beta update 7661.WP7_5_Trail or build 7710 or are these two different thing im getting confused?
DroidFreek said:
wow wow wow. Whats the latest version to the mango Beta update 7661.WP7_5_Trail or build 7710 or are these two different thing im getting confused?
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7661.WP.5.Trial is the current leaked release which most of us are running.
Apparently its rumoured that the RTM release is 7710.
But It doesn't look like we will be able to update it early, might as well have to wait until end august to get it
Official RTM build is 7712.
Official RTM is 7720. The next DEV build is 7712 and will be released tomorrow.
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I didn't try the beta, I stayed stock. I don't think it's Mango though, the os version says 7.0.7392.0.
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I am an O2 UK user, and I have had this build for a couple of months now. It addresses some security issues with website certificates.
No idea why the USA is only just receiving it.
morpheus1982 said:
I am an O2 UK user, and I have had this build for a couple of months now. It addresses some security issues with website certificates.
No idea why the USA is only just receiving it.
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The update the went out to TMOUS HD7s yesterday is a firmware and radio update from HTC.
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Official RTM is 7720. The next DEV build is 7712 and will be released tomorrow.
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Actually, it is out now. Updating mine right now.
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Actually, it is out now. Updating mine right now.
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Good for you. Please let us know how your experience, and also, a way to 'us' non-deves able to get it on our devices like the Mango beta...
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Official RTM is 7720. The next DEV build is 7712 and will be released tomorrow.
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confirmed... Me updating as well
guys. updating right now.
for those who've made it to the Other Side:
messages, other info, apps (sideloading) etc intact?
Related
anyone know when i-mate plans on releasing there next rom update
No exact date but soon
Hi , i was chatting with clubimate support and they told me that a new rom is in the final testing phase and will be released soon. These are some changes to come with the new ROM:
1. Would improve the performance of the device
2. The rom will aslo include the MSPF for pushing emails from the server (i don't know what is this!).
3. Better skype performance.
4. fixed some phone issues.
regards
raheeeb
sick of waiting
anyone else tired of waiting? what is it that they are testing? look at the state they released the device in where was the testing there? why cant they release a "beta" of the rom so WE can test it and waive out rights for support, etc....this is pathetic!!!
final testing phase and will be released soon
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if they said that, then there is nothing we can expect. they are just messing with our heads. same deal with siemens SX1... others were saying that rls17 will come, it is in the final testing phase, etcetcetc... noone saw it.
Waiting for something is pointless. I don't 'believe' they are testing anything. i will know they did something when i have the rom running on my device.
until then...
I know from local resources here that they DO have a new ROM.
Any word on when we will be getting this for us Tmobile US users. Anxiously waiting for copy/paste funcitonality. Overall i like the phone, but some very spotty reception especially with 3g data connection.
I think as far as anyone knows the update is due to start rolling out from the 8th March... but it'll be the carriers that can delay it by a week or two
Yeah, I'm waiting for the update before I decide if I'm going to keep this HD7 or not. I love the big screen and I love the OS. But this phone has some serious reception issues. My Moto Defy and even my Nokia Nuron get much better reception in both voice and data. I'm not use to so many dropped called.
I hear ya, but wouldn't that be a carrier update, not NoDo that addresses these reception issues we have. Just thinking logically here, this is a software update, not radio or kernel correct? MS can't possibly know all the issues present for each carrier or phone that needs to be addresses. Soryr coming form android so maybe my understanding is incorrect.
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Yeah, I'm waiting for the update before I decide if I'm going to keep this HD7 or not. I love the big screen and I love the OS. But this phone has some serious reception issues. My Moto Defy and even my Nokia Nuron get much better reception in both voice and data. I'm not use to so many dropped called.
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I'm waiting with you. So far, the same disappointment. I also noted that prices have fallen significantly and people are getting rid of them.
It seems that as soon MS will do something good is this system will fail. Even though HTC has released several new models, but with Android on board.
HTC Europe v1.30 ROM was released over in the Mozart forums and build number confirmed final NoDo.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=984239
and this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11917333#post11917333
I'm sure it's just a matter of hours for HD7... the pre-update went quick and smoothly, as well so should this one too.
Cheers
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HTC Europe v1.30 ROM was released over in the Mozart forums and build number confirmed final NoDo.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=984239
and this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11917333#post11917333
I'm sure it's just a matter of hours for HD7... the pre-update went quick and smoothly, as well so should this one too.
Cheers
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Tmobile US sent you the pre-update?
Please confirm post above
Ya im confused too. I'm on Tmobile USA and didnt get a pre update yet.....
Please confirm/Explain
Me neither
From what I've gathered, the pre-update wasn't/isn't 100% necessary.
Any good news?
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From what I've gathered, the pre-update wasn't/isn't 100% necessary.
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the content of the update is necessary but the update process itself isn't because the contents of that update will be included in the NoDo update. Given the fact that the 8th was only a rumored date, I doubt its coming out today, but hey surprises are welcome!
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the content of the update is necessary but the update process itself isn't because the contents of that update will be included in the NoDo update. Given the fact that the 8th was only a rumored date, I doubt its coming out today, but hey surprises are welcome!
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i've been checking all day. nothing.
scriller said:
i've been checking all day. nothing.
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same here... Ah well at least the fact that the update is out unofficially for dev/unlocked devices is a good sign.
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Tmobile US sent you the pre-update?
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not I'm starting hate them
It's my understanding that the pre-update is not necessary. What T-mobile has done was include the pre-update WITH the NoDo update; this was noted as something carriers were allowed to do.
When does this combo update come? Who the hell knows.
nexus14 said:
It's my understanding that the pre-update is not necessary. What T-mobile has done was include the pre-update WITH the NoDo update; this was noted as something carriers were allowed to do.
When does this combo update come? Who the hell knows.
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Microsoft themselves stated (while being scrutinized if carriers can block updates) that updates are bundled together by them (Microsoft) so that it won't have an effect on consumers who's carriers have blocked a previous update. The first update served two purposes: the first; was driver or firmware level upgrades that facilitate the upgrade process (which is why those small number of phones ended up bricking when the update went awry) the second was to see the worst case scenario that ended up happening to the Samsung phones. So to do list for initial update crossed out, time to release NoDo!
hope this helps
ej_424 said:
Any word on when we will be getting this for us Tmobile US users. Anxiously waiting for copy/paste funcitonality. Overall i like the phone, but some very spotty reception especially with 3g data connection.
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http://www.wpcentral.com/trophy-and...=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+wmexperts+(wpcentral) not sure if this will help probably not
check this link also this should get everyone on the right foot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10176994#post10176994
Can anybody confirm whether the radio & firmware updated ROM that XDA user Ansar posted over in the development section made it into the NoDo update ROM? I've heard good things about that radio update (saves battery, better signal etc.) and it'd be nice to know that we would also be receiving that updated radio and firmware.
ROM I8700XXKI1
K : 2011
I : Septembre
ROM UNBRANDED WITH MANGO!
Yes, it's cool but SamFirmware will release this ROM only if there are many downloads for the ROM I8700XXKH2...
I don't see the point to this. But, alas, what can we do...
it's really stupid...
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I don't see the point to this. But, alas, what can we do...
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SamFirmware wants trafic on their site and new member.
This is a great site and community but this time they playing like children.
rvmax said:
SamFirmware wants trafic on their site and new member.
This is a great site and community but this time they playing like children.
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Its not about the traffic.
Its just because we see the Wave II is hotter than the Omnia 7 this is really strange.
''playing like children'' you guys should be all happy that we release for free a OFFICIAL test rom of Mango for the Omnia 7.
Its only because one of our insiders leak something you all think we should release directly!
I can tell you this insider isn't a direct contact person of us!
Yes we have the rom and Yes we will not release till we have more downloads for a new release!
For example.
Lower sales S8530 over 1000 downloads in 36 hours. (Bada 2.0)
I8700 only 600 downloads in 36 hours. (Mango)
The sales of the Omnia 7 are higher than the Wave II.
We got this August version over 4 weeks since 2 days online now!
Be happy and stop blaming like children!
I'm a member of your site and i like it but i don't understand.
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Its just because we see the Wave II is hotter than the Omnia 7 this is really strange.
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Yes and what ? You don't release it because Wave is hotter. it's not an answer.
If i had the KI1 version i will release it now to all community.
Community = sharing
Be happy and start sharing!
rvmax said:
I'm a member of your site and i like it but i don't understand.
Yes and what ? You don't release it because Wave is hotter. it's not an answer.
If i had the KI1 version i will release it now to all community.
Community = sharing
Be happy and start sharing!
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Nope we did the same by all bada 2.0 roms.
We release when we think the time is right.
We compare the Omnia 7 and Wave II because they are on the same level.
We just release I8700XXKH2 and you guys are blaming us for everything because we are not releasing I8700XXKI1
We are not a Santa or something.
Community = sharing
Who is telling you we want specially a communty we are not like XDA.
We do what we want to do if you guys don't like we don't care.
This is how we do since many years now.
Thank God there is no big use for ROMs like this on Windows Phone like there is on Android & Bada or was on Windows Mobile. There will be an official release sooner or later anyway. Thanks to Microsoft's policy. In addition it won't wipe my personal data.
Thanks anyway
Cheers
[I8700 only 600 downloads in 36 hours. (Mango)]
The reason for less downloads could be allot of people are afraid to brick their phone.
SamFirmware said:
Its not about the traffic.
''playing like children'' you guys should be all happy that we release for free a OFFICIAL test rom of Mango for the Omnia 7.
Its only because one of our insiders leak something you all think we should release directly!
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If that is your policy I, personally, will respect it.
However, for the lack of the ROM itself I would very much like to know if XXKI1 is an Engineer or Product ROM? Could you at least give us this information?
Thanks in advance.
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[I8700 only 600 downloads in 36 hours. (Mango)]
The reason for less downloads could be allot of people are afraid to brick their phone.
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jap, I had i9000 and use to flash it 3 times a week, some times even more, but there was odin and everything was safe, with omnia it is dangerous operation.
another point that ppl not download KH2 is the branding!! i don't want to have a software branding on my phone so i don't load KH2
KI1 instead i would download immediately and flash it
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But well if they want to have more downloads, i will download it So all of you guys instead of writing here download re-download etc etc
AND the only thing they want more downloads is, they get money for the downloads i guess:
http://hotfile.com/affiliate.html?lang=en
I see a lot of hatin' for samfirmware and I see the rationale, but I don't think people should be calling names.
As for samfirmware, you know what'll drive more dls and revenue for your site? how 'bout releasing k1? I'm on the same boat as everyone here that doesn't want branding. The only thing that I like from official samsung firmware is hidden wifi, which I don't think I will use that much, but nice to have. I won't be holding my breath for K1 because stock MS Mango RTM is working flawlessly even on old omnia 7 drivers. And to be fair, I did download the engineer rom, just don't like the idea of wiping all my data just for hidden wifi and setting up everything again.
So how about it samfirmware? Want more traffic? I'll trade my two imaginary bandwidth children for it or I can just wait till official release through Zune which allow people to keep their data. I won't be holding my breath for K1.
There is possibility to update to KH2 via the imageupdate that was in the archive, but it doesn't work on all ROMs, just some - it depends on the CSC you used while flashing your current ROM I think.
I didn't manage to get rid of the one branded package in the update - I have both pksbuild tool and signtool, but I don't have any usable certificate to re-sign the new pks with . (And uploading just directly the .cab.pkg didn't work for me.)
(And you can flash back the original ROM or just bootloader with the patched flashing app.)
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There is possibility to update to KH2 via the imageupdate that was in the archive, but it doesn't work on all ROMs, just some - it depends on the CSC you used while flashing your current ROM I think.
I didn't manage to get rid of the one branded package in the update - I have both pksbuild tool and signtool, but I don't have any usable certificate to re-sign the new pks with . (And uploading just directly the .cab.pkg didn't work for me.)
(And you can flash back the original ROM or just bootloader with the patched flashing app.)
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I did this and this worked for me , but you need a t-mobile de rom to do this trick.
(yes I know ondra that you know this but all others didn't )
Stop boring and blaming.Remener,we use the roms for free.We should say thanks instead of blame.Do not act as a child in forum.
good job thx
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Its not about the traffic.
Its just because we see the Wave II is hotter than the Omnia 7 this is really strange.
''playing like children'' you guys should be all happy that we release for free a OFFICIAL test rom of Mango for the Omnia 7.
Its only because one of our insiders leak something you all think we should release directly!
I can tell you this insider isn't a direct contact person of us!
Yes we have the rom and Yes we will not release till we have more downloads for a new release!
For example.
Lower sales S8530 over 1000 downloads in 36 hours. (Bada 2.0)
I8700 only 600 downloads in 36 hours. (Mango)
The sales of the Omnia 7 are higher than the Wave II.
We got this August version over 4 weeks since 2 days online now!
Be happy and stop blaming like children!
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Hi,kind regard to you.i'm a omnia 7 user from china,and there many users in our china.
it's a good news that you shared the I8700XXKH2 rom but you don't know most of us from china can't access to the website hotfile.com(because the suck GFW.china goverment block many website such us Twitter/Facebook and many Network disk).
so we can't dirctly download the firmware from the link you shared,we download it from the mirror like u.115.com,a chinese network driver.Base on this reason,i think the number of your firmware been download is not the real numerical value.And we really hope you share the new rom agian and quickly.
sorry for my poor english,i wish you can understand what i said.
SamFirmware said:
Its not about the traffic.
Its just because we see the Wave II is hotter than the Omnia 7 this is really strange.
''playing like children'' you guys should be all happy that we release for free a OFFICIAL test rom of Mango for the Omnia 7.
Its only because one of our insiders leak something you all think we should release directly!
I can tell you this insider isn't a direct contact person of us!
Yes we have the rom and Yes we will not release till we have more downloads for a new release!
For example.
Lower sales S8530 over 1000 downloads in 36 hours. (Bada 2.0)
I8700 only 600 downloads in 36 hours. (Mango)
The sales of the Omnia 7 are higher than the Wave II.
We got this August version over 4 weeks since 2 days online now!
Be happy and stop blaming like children!
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SF,
I've used one of your ROM's before, to remove branding from my T-Mobile branded Omnia, and I'm very happy and gratefull.
However, I'm guessing most of us Omnia owners are not flashing/upgrading because we all are waiting for the unbranded mango ROM, not yet another NoDo or branded Mango.
Anyway, thanks for your hard work, and keep it up.
We will bring I8700XXKI1 but we don't give any details when.
Mango roms takes time!
Because many people are to dangarous we will make a online flashguide!
Firmware version I8700XXKI1 will be ponline together with some others. (Not WP)
We just want to see how HOT mango roms are.
Other thing when you guys using other download links this will blockade newer roms faster.
Why do you think we release a lot of bada 2.0 roms.
So stay tuned!
Hi everyone,
I just traded my android phone for an htc hd7 and enjoy it so far. I have read that the official mango update is going to be released soon, possibly Sep. 15th. At this point, should I wait to see if official mango is going to be released soon or should I go ahead and install a mango build from the development section? If I install a build, will the official mango update be able to be done to my phone or would i have to return it to stock?
Sorry about some of the noobish questions, have had many android phones and can figure stuff out pretty easy with them, but wp7 is a completely different beast it seems and it's taking some relearning and a lot of reading.
Hello...
I installed it this morning. Even though the rumored date is tomorrow i think it will be a while before local carriers release it. Not as bad as NoDo though. Also, with the RTM release you wont get all the extra fraff the carriers add.
I'd go for it. Its ace!
I would suggest searching around about how to make a backup of your device before doing anything. Its quite a simple and quick process and very important to do.
Mango is awesome btw! But I would contact your network provider if its a locked device to find out when the update might hit.
I would also recommend installing it. The final build is out and ready. That is what I installed, and since its the official version, I will still be able to update through Zune on updates down the road. Its quite easy, even on mine which was carrier branded. It took less than 30 minutes, not including file download time.
Mango is great by they way. My Sensation with its over clocked processor, custom rom, and extras has already been out away. Now I want some new WP7 hardware to back up the software.
Like the previous poster says, its the release build so why not? You also have to remember that its unlocked which means you can side load, etc. I'd go for it just make sure you have all of your music, pictures, etc sync'd. Even if itdid release tomorrow, does not mean you will get it and BTW, its a simple, no hasle process. Just follow the directions! Good luck.
I held off a long time with updating to 7720 from beta2 for the same reason. Was just gonna wait it out. But I ended up upgrading. Thing is that when I updated to 7720 from 7712(??) I was able to receive the HTC update which has been out a while but was unable to receive since I was on the beta2 and didn't feel like downgrading to nodo but for minimal changes. So using even the Zune beta client which I have I'm led to believe that when the official mango is released by carriers I'm gonna be able to upgrade right from RTM 7720. Just a thought. Did it on both my hd7's soon as updated to 7720 I was able to receive the radio update.
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Thanks for all the feedback! I will continue to read up on the process to update it in the meantime and maybe tackle it this weekend if the update doesn't come out by then.
tried flashing to mango..but games seem not to be working. So flash back to the original firmware.maybe i just wait for the official update...
Am a Happy bunny with Mango RTM installed. I feel its not really a point waiting for your carrier updates as such cause WP7 is as closed as apple.
and all HTC will ever do is update its HTC HUB which you can update anyway via market.
so go ahead and do it.
Whatever you choose I hope you enjoy it. I'm tired of waiting for official Mango, going back to Android. I had high hopes but it doesn't feel worthwhile anymore.
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Whatever you choose I hope you enjoy it. I'm tired of waiting for official Mango, going back to Android. I had high hopes but it doesn't feel worthwhile anymore.
Sent from my HD7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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You know, I've haunted these forums for a long time with different phones and I've used WM6+, Android 1+, IOS 3+ and a few others and comments like this really piss me off.
WP7 has come a long way in a short amount of time. Is it perfect, of course not but Mango is a major step forward and puts WP7 on par with any other mobile OS. Granted we dont have as many useless apps or the same apps repackaged and there are a few that are just plain missing but its getting there.
BTW, did I mention what a helpful post it was? Not...
I've just flashed my HD7 up to Mango because I know O2 will load it with Yahoo Crap, and it'll likely arrive some time in November if their track record is anything to go by.
Was using a Blackberry Torch until recently, but swapped it out for the HD7. My second phone is a Galaxy-S, and it was my main phone until I got the HD7. Previously I've had various XDAs Mini-S, a TyTn, and a HD2, as well as work phones at various places. The only handset I had issues with was the HD2, though that was more to do with crap O2 messed with firmware than anything else.
Before Mango I would have rated this handset 6/10 for missing features. Now 9/10 as I still can't have OTA Podcasting, and the Battery could be better.
In max 2 weeks
windowsteamblog.com/windows_phone/b/windowsphone/archive/2011/09/21/where-s-mango-an-update-on-timing.aspx
Finally, its coming.
Yes about time...
MS the Masters of delay!
They have stepped up well lately but comon! to beat the others they need to be better faster and employ some good add people ffs! MS marketing is like Balmer --> bald!
Want to see if before I believe it
Samsung Omnia 7 is the last phone get updates. I say its update will be one more month at least.
leosinto said:
Samsung Omnia 7 is the last phone get updates. I say its update will be one more month at least.
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I am using the branded engineer firmware with mango atm, i don't think it will take long! because this firmware runs pretty smooth and without any problems!
jagabongo said:
I am using the branded engineer firmware with mango atm, i don't think it will take long! because this firmware runs pretty smooth and without any problems!
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Will we get updates on the engineering rom or will we have to flash to retail?
don't count on it.
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Will we get updates on the engineering rom or will we have to flash to retail?
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My bet is you have to go Nodo first