Like the title say.
Because:
No use of new ROM.
Lazy to waiting
Why all developer develop things with separated?
Hehe.... Sorry if disturbing you. I hate hater haha.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726813
X10 Devs has successed cracking bootloader
SE will out their X10 Gingerbread system! Let's develop it to our phone if it's finished!
Bypass bootloader is very hard,If you request the devs to crack the bootloader first,then why don't you crack it on your own?
And X10 doesn't have anything to do with X8 except "X" and "Sony Ericsson Xperia"
And please modify your signature. It's too big.
And no use of new roms? ----> use fu*** stock than!!
If you are so impatient, then take a book, start learning and crack the bootloader on your own, everyone can command others.
Devs do what they want. You can't just tell them that.. And Bypassing/Cracking Bootloader is very hard
You do it if you soo SMART!!
Useless thread...
u do it then smart ass
I am with you if all x8 dev works together to make a stable and fast rom
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I think I know what he means, but that's a way too arrogant way to put it dude lol... He thinks devs should get together and concentrate on breaking the bootloader. It's a fair request, but you can't force anyone to do that, all this work is purely voluntary, and if it was that easy it would have been done already, don't you think?...
Actually the devs WAS work on cracking bootloader together.But as I said earlier,cracking a bootloader is very hard.Also some members are spammed on their post,so this project is on hold.
Troll detected.
Developing a ROM and cracking encryption is two entirely different animals that require two very different sets of skills.
What are you on about? Should all devs stop working on their ROMs while waiting for some encryption-wiz to come around and crack the bootloader?
Let me put it as bluntly as possible: Stop complaining and making demands you ungrateful freeloader.
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I cannot stop LOLing when seeing this
I've detected too.
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Devs are not working for you, learn a bit of respect please.
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Ok from the recent accumulation of information, lots of confusion, and lots of false info, i have seen on here finally has made me to decide to post here again in order to help clean up all of the rumors and such and give an update on the status of unlocking the device...
1. Bootloaders- are locked and as of now will be for the forseable future bearing we don't get some of the info we need one being the proper sbk. there are other methods we have been working on but i guess the easy way of putting it is we have gotten to all the final doors and have all the tools , how ever the locks on these final doors are at this point still un-pickable. My current suggestion for anyone wanting to help, unless you are a good crypto guy , in which case by all means message me, for the rest of you our best bet is a hot chic a tight dress and a even better B - to some one that has access of some of the stuff we need if you cant offer any of these things than just be patient so that next time i dont have to write this and once again we wont have to publish what we are doing for everyone to read and defend against, before we are ready too!! Remember they don't document online how the built the lock , so we should not publish how we want to dismantle it until it is done!!
2. Nvflash - Yes it exists on our devices, yes it can be accessed , yes you need a Dev. cable to do so. Yes using it theoretically we could re flash our devices with unsecured images , yes with it I could make our devices free , How ever this all being said there is a problem currently, and that is that its is signed with a sbk value, this value is unknown to us it is a AES key and is in this format 0x00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000. With out knowing the value of this key anything anyone wants to tell you about nvflash is complete and entire BS!! You can not even read from the device, any command that is sent via nvflash will return an error and than disable the connection to the device in order to prevent a brute force attack. Find us this key by sleeping with the enemy i will give you an unlocked device by tomorrow
3. Dev Cable- Yes they exist, yes you can make your own, You need to send 5v to pin 4 also known as the id pin, the battery must be removed from the device when using this cable, you will plug it into your phone hold the vol - button and goto nvflash mode than your computer can see it as well as nvflash. Is there any need for you to have this cable ? As of now probably not, as there is not much you can do with this cable unless you have a dead or damaged battery and need to reflash a sbf to fix your phone so that you can than charge your battery again. And yes TBH is offering to sell you one of these cables for $50, if that seems to be a fair price to you and do not wish to make your own and do have a use for a cable that as of now is not helping a retail atrix to much than by all means order one from there web page.
Anyhow despite our lack of posting here on XDA there are a few of us that still dedicate our time everyday to this ... We are not constantly updating people here because A) Anything less than a guide on how to unlock your device is a disappointment, B) We do not think that making our info publicly available would be beneficial to anyone, and increases the likely hood of a patch or block attempt. C) Its not a oh were almost there type of operation, there is no clear cut path. Anyhow i Hope this helps clear up info and stops foolish attempts and ridiculous comments lies and posts like i have seen the past week, keep faith and enjoy your device as is its a great devices just severely crippled thanks to AT&T thats right AT&T so if your board write to them, call them, sign the patition, file a complaint to FTC blog about it and from now on only buy devices listed like here, http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/root_friendly
Have a Great DAY!!
This wake up call is very much appreciated! Thank you, sir!!
Thank you for the update.
I believe that this has been a much needed post, but please clean up the language.
Thank you.
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Thank you for the good information! I'll be quite happy with my GingerBlur in the meantime.
I got fiiiiive on it
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sifon187 said:
time to start the bounty for the hooker.
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I'm in for $10.
frankiedizzle87 said:
Language is real talk speak how u want we grown
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Like many, I am exposed to this kind of language on a daily basis. Like few, I understand the importance of a clean, inviting community for all ages. Now, I am only sixteen, but real adults speak politely, with manners and respect. Such ideals are hard to come by these days, even in the adult community. I am just making whatever menial effort I can to keep these forums clean and inviting for all age groups and backgrounds.
Thank you.
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Like many, I am exposed to this kind of language on a daily basis. Like few, I understand the importance of a clean, inviting community for all ages. Now, I am only sixteen, but real adults speak politely, with manners and respect. Such ideals are hard to come by these days, even in the adult community. I am just making whatever menial effort I can to keep these forums clean and inviting for all age groups and backgrounds.
Thank you.
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But its not for all age groups...these forums are for the hardcore modders and devs. If you don't like the way he talks don't read it
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EricHegnes said:
Like many, I am exposed to this kind of language on a daily basis. Like few, I understand the importance of a clean, inviting community for all ages. Now, I am only sixteen, but real adults speak politely, with manners and respect. Such ideals are hard to come by these days, even in the adult community. I am just making whatever menial effort I can to keep these forums clean and inviting for all age groups and backgrounds.
Thank you.
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i'm 10 years older and i speak however the situation requires. not everyone has to be polite and cordial 100% of the time; in fact the internet is probably the least likely place you will find that. if there's a problem, tell the mods or report the thread. citizen's policing will often just lead to backlash.
anyway, i suggest we sticky this thread to the top of the forum.
Developers rarely speak curiously our sometimes even understandably. So asking devs to speak in your preferred style will likely lead to devs ignoring you or walking away. They're very fickle that way.
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raybond25 said:
we either need to find an insecure female motorola employee and worm the SBK out of her, or we need to hire a really hot hooker to get it from one of the motorola tech devs.
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Lets spend that $2700 bounty on a hooker
ON TOPIC: Best of luck to the devs I'll be waiting here patiently..
With all that being said... back to the subject people Thanks for the update t0dbld! I, like many others who have this beast of a phone, will continue to patiently wait while the devs (who are working hard) try to get this thing handled!
Attention Mods: Could this be stickied in an effort to stop anymore pointless bootloader threads? Keep it updated with any news of bootloader unlock efforts.
Thanks for the update devs.
Come on guys, we all know there is no women in computers. Well not hot desperate ones anyway.
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Come on guys, we all know there is no women in computers. Well not hot desperate ones anyway.
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who said they had to be hot....? someone could take one for the team.
that being said - thanks for the post t0bold, we know you're doing what you do elsewhere so you don't get flamed hard by the naysayers, and we support you guys.
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who said they had to be hot....? someone could take one for the team.
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You get on with taking one for the team bud. ;D
that being said - thanks for the post t0bold, we know you're doing what you do elsewhere so you don't get flamed hard by the naysayers, and we support you guys.
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Ontopic: Great post t0bold, it was definitely needed. I am hoping the sbk gets leaked from Moto. But I doubt that will happen, but you never know.
raybond25 said:
if anyone got the sbk like that they would be my hero, ahahaha.
although, if anyone got it using any method they'd probably still be my hero, but that one would be so much more awesome.
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Lol they'd be the keymaster lmao
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Apart from the sbk what would you need?
devs should work on bootloader cracking.not that i am forcing them to do,but i am BEGGING them.we have plenty of great roms for use.look at froyobread.its a perfect rom.now we have gingerDX.for a few weeks it will be a perfect 2.3 rom.
Now its time for future.and i know that bootloader cracking is very,very hard.and dont tell me that,why dont you do it yourself.believe me,i would if i knew.i think that we have too much talented devs,and i think they can do it,but only if they work together as a team.and we,normal users should leave them alone untill they do so.we should not spam them,ask them when will it be cracked and everything else.they will announce it when it will be done.
I love xperia x8 as much as you do.and im thankful to god that we have souch wonderful devs.we wouldnt have souch a wonderful phone without them.so i will say this once again:
THANK YOU!
i really like this thread, but its up to the devs
and you know you will be hit with critism
Thank you devs!!
love this thread..hope the DEV will considering this.. ^^
Somebody show this thread to developers since i posted it into the wrong section...
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its known that development for our phone is difficult due to lack of hardware sources...still developers are trying to port things up for this...
but its been a quite long time since in the development thread almost all roms are in beta stage..they are reaching to usable stage...I would request devs to speed up the process and please dont put everything under beta for long periods...
I guess that everyone works with blood sweat and tears on their roms. Just have some patience...
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To be honest, very few number of people use this phone... Its not as popular as S3 or S2 (thats the main drawback of most mid range phones)
And out of all those users, only a very few number of people have knowledge about Android (aka the developers).... And since we're always busy with our lives, jobs, exams, classes, etc. So no one can give complete attention to all this...
Yes, after the JB update - this phone got a boost in a "Development" point of view... I mean we now have more ROMs, themes, Mods, etc... But i believe that all we need are more experienced developers (and users) to help the existing developers and contribute something to this phone's dev support...
As Shaaan said, we are all good at something... So why not form a team and utilize it for better and faster development process for this phone
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its known that development for our phone is difficult due to lack of hardware sources...still developers are trying to port things up for this...
but its been a quite long time since in the development thread almost all roms are in beta stage..they are reaching to usable stage...I would request devs to speed up the process and please dont put everything under beta for long periods...
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I would demand from you to learn to develop, and make all that betas to be final. How that sounds? You would do that in the speed of the light.
And please turn on the brain for little time and see that all those beta ROMs are mods of CM, that is in beta stage. And we do not have sources to fix all the bugs fast.
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^ What he said, if you can't wait for it, do it yourself.
Tired of this kind of people who can't contribute something other than demanding. Maybe if you can ''DONATE'' thats the least you can do rather than learning how to develop instead of posting nonsense. Ok? Just a suggestion bro.
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nobody is expecting to get something done with the speed of light ....i am just saying that if some project is started wait for the final version should not be this long and cm10.1 was started months ago still no final version then whats the point of starting new projects based on that... as far as time availability i concerned nobody is forcing anyone to start a new stuff and hang up in beta they have their own will to do that...and the one who is tired of people like me i would humbly request you to not comment rather you should contribute community needs you....commenting will make you feel tired...
that was an opinion if you are really hurt by that...please learn to look at things differently
This guy is real piece of work....
Do you even know what beta means ?? If devs hold on to the project until its final, how the hell would they get people to test it ???
As for how long a beta takes, you are in no position to demand anything. Dev's work for free to give you a better phone experience, if you want things done fast, grab a pile of you own money, pay a bunch of people to develop something for you. Whenever someone is doing free work for you, the right thing to do is keep you head down and be grateful that they even share their work with you for free.
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This guy is real piece of work....
Do you even know what beta means ?? If devs hold on to the project until its final, how the hell would they get people to test it ???
As for how long a beta takes, you are in no position to demand anything. Dev's work for free to give you a better phone experience, if you want things done fast, grab a pile of you own money, pay a bunch of people to develop something for you. Whenever someone is doing free work for you, the right thing to do is keep you head down and be grateful that they even share their work with you for free.
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so now you will tell me what beta means go mate you have more important work to do...
let this forum be what it should be...dont make it a ground for useless arguements...i had an opinion now dont be a teacher here,,
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nobody is expecting to get something done with the speed of light ....i am just saying that if some project is started wait for the final version should not be this long and cm10.1 was started months ago still no final version then whats the point of starting new projects based on that... as far as time availability i concerned nobody is forcing anyone to start a new stuff and hang up in beta they have their own will to do that...and the one who is tired of people like me i would humbly request you to not comment rather you should contribute community needs you....commenting will make you feel tired...
that was an opinion if you are really hurt by that...please learn to look at things differently
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How can you even expect CM10.1 to work. It's 4.2 based... damn...
And no one says you can't give your opinion, it's just the way you said it. With your post you insulted everyone trying to work on CM etc because according to YOU the development doesn't go as fast as you want.
And don't say: don't play teacher on me I just have an opinion. Because I AM a damn teacher and you need to be taught some patience...
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LOL to those who can't wait. Buy a new phone, more popular ones. Then enjoy it to your heart content. End of story.
There will be more beta's then there will be rc's before final version. If you can't wait, might as well consider buying other device. Your choice. No argument here
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its known that development for our phone is difficult due to lack of hardware sources...still developers are trying to port things up for this...
but its been a quite long time since in the development thread almost all roms are in beta stage..they are reaching to usable stage...I would request devs to speed up the process and please dont put everything under beta for long periods...
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Please delete this thread. The pointless character of it is beyond any measure.
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Too much fail in this thread
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If you like Roms, then go and check out his development for S5 G900f. It's really great! !
I hope, it's okay to advertise this here.
Regards
Mod Edit: No its not, they left XDA so to respect their wishes we won't allow XDA to be used to drive traffic to their site.
Already using it, SUPER ROM!!!!!
Using this rom for some time now and its super stable no laggs long battery life
Can I ask who told you this LIE??
Pls tell me its not a moderator again..pls i really hope we are not stooping to this level...
Echoe Development left xda because of the way i was being treated by the hierarchy..
but this is not the place or a subject that should be of anyone's business...
pls tell me who told you this lie though..
After people have been proven to kang my roms on the S4..
in case this gets deleted, which prob will, please find me and tell who told you this LIE please
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CAN I ASK WHO TOLD YOU THIS LIE??
Pls tell me its not a moderator again..
Echoe Development left xda because of the way i was being treated by the hierarchy..
pls tell me who told you this lie though..
After people have been proven to kang my roms on the S4..
in case this gets deleted, which prob will, please find me and tell me if a moderator told you this lie...
because a couple of them have been saying this ABSOLUTE LIE to users and they are still here free to bully people around..
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Im not telling thats its true, i always used your roms on my s4 and now on my s5, but ive seen it on your kernel in the special thanks thingy
And i dont believe that you steal things, have seen your roms and looking at the code you've done everything yourself.
But all your roms left xda?
Btw, im trying to log in on your forum using tapatalk but it dont load at all or must i continue using the browser version?
Hey friedrich, always loved your ROM when I was using S4. I didn't knew you're still cooking...good to know because I got a S5 now and will flash some bliss to it
Sock12345 said:
Im not telling thats its true, i always used your roms on my s4 and now on my s5, but ive seen it on your kernel in the special thanks thingy
Not gonna post the an image dont want you to be banned again..
But all your roms left xda?
Btw, im trying to log in on your forum using tapatalk but it dont load at all or must i continue using the browser version?
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my friend i never said you claimed this..
but in order for you to say this, it means someone is spreading that NASTY RUMOR!!
And i think its only fair to me to know who is spreading these lies...
We shouldnt continue with this.. i cannot talk about my development here or about anything non-xda related.... the only reason i posted is because i was informed that there was a post about me supposedly leaving xda because of stealing...
just one question to the moderator spreading these vicious lies: how can i steal when in anything i develop I ALWAYS (and i mean ALWAYS!!) release first??
i prefer we talk about this via pm's..
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my friend i never said you claimed this..
but in order for you to say this, it means someone is spreading that NASTY RUMOR!!
And i think its only fair to me to know who is spreading these lies...
We shouldnt continue with this.. i cannot talk about my development here or about anything non-xda related.... the only reason i posted is because i was informed that there was a post about me supposedly leaving xda because of stealing...
just one question? how can i steal when in anything i develop I ALWAYS (and i mean ALWAYS!!) release first??
i prefer we talk about this via pm's..
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Alright ill pm you
@friedrich420
What with G900i variant? It would be really really nice to install your ROM in G900i devices...
Do you plan develop your great ROM to this device?
Thanks in advance!!!
Best regards!
friedrich420 said:
my friend i never said you claimed this..
but in order for you to say this, it means someone is spreading that NASTY RUMOR!!
And i think its only fair to me to know who is spreading these lies...
We shouldnt continue with this.. i cannot talk about my development here or about anything non-xda related.... the only reason i posted is because i was informed that there was a post about me supposedly leaving xda because of stealing...
just one question to the moderator spreading these vicious lies: how can i steal when in anything i develop I ALWAYS (and i mean ALWAYS!!) release first??
i prefer we talk about this via pm's..
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Tried to send second pm but your box seems to be full
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Not development
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Remember Android N CyanogenMod Beta? Let's create another one for Android O! I loved those times. If I was a developer, I would have started it already :crying: but I'm not, so I'm asking others...
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Remember Android N CyanogenMod Beta? Let's create another one for Android O! I loved those times. If I was a developer, I would have started it already :crying: but I'm not, so I'm asking others...
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can you please stop posting such useless crap?
we all know that Android O is out, so wait till you get the first custom roms ..
The image just released and it certainly will take quite some time for developers to complie a custom ROM.
Moderators really need to step up their game to remove these worthless posts...
FYI: YOU are the person that demotivates devs with all these captain obvious questions and whines about ETA's. Congratulations on only making it take longer.
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michel sedgh said:
Remember Android N CyanogenMod Beta? Let's create another one for Android O! I loved those times. If I was a developer, I would have started it already :crying: but I'm not, so I'm asking others...
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It's never too late to become a developer. When you have a problem, do you always wait expecting someone fixing it for you ? I hope not. Don't waste your time crying and waiting, nobody was born as a developer. Start learning now, you'll know already a lot before Android O is released on your phone.
paultje162 said:
Moderators really need to step up their game to remove these worthless posts...
FYI: YOU are the person that demotivates devs with all these captain obvious questions and whines about ETA's. Congratulations on only making it take longer.
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I would think such things would motivate developers. "Wow the community wants this quicker, I'm gonna show them I'm capable" something like that lol
I don't see anything wrong with a thread to discuss the upcoming roms. It's cool
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I would think such things would motivate developers. "Wow the community wants this quicker, I'm gonna show them I'm capable" something like that lol
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No not even close really. See here is something many users dont understand. Developers dont make things for them (ok some glory hounds do but those people are normally complete idiots) Developers make the roms for themselves and decide to share it. Why do you think most teams do not support a device they dont own? Developers have no desire to prove anything really. To be honest, the real developers are some of the most anti-social people you will ever meet. This is the reason most dont even bother posting. They use other people as their voice.
As for fast. Well you can get something fast or you can get something done right. Considering there are no blobs or kernel source for this device anything that does come out before 1+ releases their update will be nothing more then a cheap hack.
This thread doesn't look to have a forseeable direction, This thread is now closed.