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I saw the huge list of safe apps to delete, and I am getting my Droid X on monday, so I was just wondering if deleting the apps causes the speed to increase? I read a lot of reviews saying the Droid X has some lag unfourtantely but does it speed up when you delete all those applications?
I have the incredible right now and use a froyo basic ROM, I turn off all animations and delete all apps that aren't necessary, I just care about the speed of the phone. Do you see a speed increase if the applications are deleted?
I don't think you'll see a noticeable speed increase. The X does have lag in some places, notably the lock screen (big wtf here), but I don't think it's that much worse than most other android phones on stock roms.
I have an incredible and just got my X on Friday. I have noticed that the X is significantly slower than the incredible (both running stock ROMs). I've also found that the X is buggier. I've never had a random reboot on the Inc and it seems to happen all the time on the X while wifi is on. Also, i've noticed that it's generally much slower in response to requested actions.
The most redeeming thing about the X is the AWESOME screen!!!
I'm hoping for a new release soon to help with the slowness, reboots, wifi, and responsiveness.
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I have an incredible and just got my X on Friday. I have noticed that the X is significantly slower than the incredible (both running stock ROMs). I've also found that the X is buggier. I've never had a random reboot on the Inc and it seems to happen all the time on the X while wifi is on. Also, i've noticed that it's generally much slower in response to requested actions.
The most redeeming thing about the X is the AWESOME screen!!!
I'm hoping for a new release soon to help with the slowness, reboots, wifi, and responsiveness.
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The pro for all of the things you've mentioned there is that it seems to all be software related. HTC obviously has had more time to perfect Sense then Motorola has with it's new Blur-hybrid. I think once the software issues get worked out, the hardware for the X will outshine the Inc.
Just use launcher pro instead of the stock launcher and the entire system will run faster.
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Doesn't using launcher pro on top of blur make it use even more resources?
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it does, but if you remove everything off of your blur, then launch and use the other launcher it will use quite a bit more ram, (i see about a jump of 20 to 30 megs though i haven't done any precise measuring)
But I do notice a bit of a speed increase, part of the reason could be you can control the speed of the animations, and if you bump it up a little bit, even if it lags on showing you the animation it's not as noticeable because you can get there faster. (if that makes sense)
Well then if its mostly software related then I'll wait for a couple firmware updates or 2.2 before I start *****ing
ANy tips on how to speed the droid X up anyone?
Here is a tip that i found out:
On boot, go into the running apps/services, and kill:
Skype MObile, Social networking, and backup assistant authorization
It frees up memory AND the best part, you dont have to uninstall the programs and risk messing up ur phone..
Just have to do it on every reboot, big whoop..
grdm said:
Here is a tip that i found out:
On boot, go into the running apps/services, and kill:
Skype MObile, Social networking, and backup assistant authorization
It frees up memory AND the best part, you dont have to uninstall the programs and risk messing up ur phone..
Just have to do it on every reboot, big whoop..
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isnt there a app that will prevent things from starting up? if you know the name please tell me thanks.
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isnt there a app that will prevent things from starting up? if you know the name please tell me thanks.
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Startup Auditor - It's a paid app but worth the money.
I just tried launcher pro on top of fully configured blur and pro was still smother than blur. So since it isn't the phone I'm holding out hope for 2.2/blur update fixes this. Since that's around the corner I'll wait for it before converting to pro.
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isnt there a app that will prevent things from starting up? if you know the name please tell me thanks.
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Autokiller is a full featured, free app to do this.
Launcher Pro made a world of difference on my incredible, zero lag whatsoever..
I like many people thought about getting the Droid X, i dont have a complaint with its size whatsoever moreso then other issues... when i tested the demo phone in the verizon store it seemed incredibly slow.. yes i know it was a demo phone and people probobly mess with it all day long but still it was like having a G1 all over again..
Secondly is the lack of root access.. with the encrypted bootloader it is probobly going to be near impossible to flash a custom recovery and therefor custom roms are also going to be a hassle, i love having my fully unlocked incredible with a S-Off Nand on the way.. having custom roms and overclock kernals changes the feel of the phone completely
Thirdly and last is the 2.2 update... i saw the 2.2 update news article on the Droid X and the guys Quadrant Benchmarks with it were 800 something? That seems redicilous because my Quadrant Benchmarks with my 2.2 incredible are 1400s and Linpacks are in the low 40s
Those benches are showing the droid x on 2.1, with some other phones on 2.2, which puts the droid x in the highest tier of performance. Once froyo is on the dx, youll see scores almost surely above the incredibles (because of the gpu) and very high linpack scores.
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Autorun Killer does the job, but you need to be rooted.
AutoKiller on the same website will help you keep your memory cleaner by automatically killing tasks. That'll improve performance if your phone is running low on memory (which can happen if all the stock processes are running).
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personally i rooted my phone installed root explorer renamed alot of junk on my phone from .apk to .bak. my phone is def snappier. i also turned off the animated backgrounds. i also use advanced task killer which is the main reason i started, in a sense, uninstalling apps the safe way. seeing all of those items running before i killed them was killing me. so i would try doing that and also turning off wifi etc when not needed.
May not be the best scores, but this is after renaming only a few apps.
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Blur sucks. Launcher Pro rocks... And umm... Well I prefer my Droid X to the Incredible after the mods. I have zero lag. Go me.
If you guys haven't tried Super Manager yet, it's hella awesome. Played with it for five minutes and ditched Root Explorer. And it's free.
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I tried it but it wasn't for me. Looks like a really great app but I think it is trying to be too much. I don't really like these all in one apps, for example I never use task managers except for the one samsung includes. I don't like the auto killers and having to exclude apps I went for a run this morning with super manager installed and it kept killing Pandora. I know how to fix but that meant I had to stop and deal with it. Instead I held home, went to packages found Super Manager and uninstalled all while only slowing down to a jog. Super managers menus are a bit more unintuitive to do this with. I would recommend this app for anyone who uses task managers and task switchers as the built in switcher is pretty cool, reminds me of SBSettings. For me I will stick with SU File Manager and Browser, been using it since the G1 days.
edit: almost forgot to thank you for the recommendation, I love finding and playing with new apps even if I end up not keeping them it allows me to help other people I know that want an app like that. I have a friend who is going to love super manager I know
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edit: almost forgot to thank you for the recommendation, I love finding and playing with new apps even if I end up not keeping them it allows me to help other people I know that want an app like that. I have a friend who is going to love super manager I know
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What he said! I tried it out too, and had a similar result. I think I would have been all over this one if I hadn't already found a suite of different apps that I use for the same things.
Keep 'em coming, though!
Thanks, I do like it, especially the super launcher part. Nice for android noobs like me. Good find.
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I think I just really, really like the UI. lol. I hate task killers, and turn those features off unless needed for a bad app. I also run the hell out of Auto Killer, and Auto Run Killer. eliminates the need for manual memory or task management altogether.
does this app do have a donate version that can be downloaded for free? thnaks...
I didn't really like super manager I used ghost commander as my free equivalent to root explorer until I bought it in Amazon half off. Ghost commander is awesome. Try it out. u may like it u may not
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Hey guys/gals what is up. I'm so happy to announce that sometime next week my HTC Aria will be handed to me by UPS. Anyway I have been a member here for a while under the HTC Fuze(Touch PRO)section and tinkering around with there android port. That was untill my phones touch screen decided not to work back in june. So I have been Sitting around with my old Nokia that still has the Cingular Wireless logo on the back. Anyway I can't wait to finally be back in the phone game and finally on a true android phone. Is there any apps besides advanced task killer I should keep my eye out on?
Thanks a bunch,
Matt(AkumaMax)
I used Advanced Task Killer for a week or so, then heard some saying you shouldn't use a task killer with Android. After reading up a bit on the subject, I came to the conclusion that they are unnecessary and may actually increase battery drain.
There are a ton of great apps. Depends on what you want to do... I would highly recommend LauncherPro for customizing the look of your phone. Camera360 is a great app for adding special effects to your camera images. I use Appbrain.com to browse the market, and it's companion apps Appbrain Market and Fast Web Installer both installed on my phone. This combo allows me to browse their website for apps and click INSTALL on the website to send the app to my phone and install it without me having to do anything else.
Not sure how adventurous you're going to be with modding your phone. It took me about two weeks to build up the courage to root and install a custom ROM. I don't regret it a bit! I installed Cyanogen 6.1 RC1 and then a couple days later RC2 released, so I installed that. Basic benefits of doing this are upgrading from Android 2.1 to 2.2, ability to side-load apps from the SD card, moving apps to the SD card and off the internal phone memory, live wallpaper support, and I'm sure there are plenty more, but that's what hits me off the top of my head.
There's lots of good help on these boards, I've asked plenty of noobish questions and haven't had a single nasty response. Don't hesitate to ask anything that comes to mind... after you search, of course! =)
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I used Advanced Task Killer for a week or so, then heard some saying you shouldn't use a task killer with Android. After reading up a bit on the subject, I came to the conclusion that they are unnecessary and may actually increase battery drain.
There are a ton of great apps. Depends on what you want to do... I would highly recommend LauncherPro for customizing the look of your phone. Camera360 is a great app for adding special effects to your camera images. I use Appbrain.com to browse the market, and it's companion apps Appbrain Market and Fast Web Installer both installed on my phone. This combo allows me to browse their website for apps and click INSTALL on the website to send the app to my phone and install it without me having to do anything else.
Not sure how adventurous you're going to be with modding your phone. It took me about two weeks to build up the courage to root and install a custom ROM. I don't regret it a bit! I installed Cyanogen 6.1 RC1 and then a couple days later RC2 released, so I installed that. Basic benefits of doing this are upgrading from Android 2.1 to 2.2, ability to side-load apps from the SD card, moving apps to the SD card and off the internal phone memory, live wallpaper support, and I'm sure there are plenty more, but that's what hits me off the top of my head.
There's lots of good help on these boards, I've asked plenty of noobish questions and haven't had a single nasty response. Don't hesitate to ask anything that comes to mind... after you search, of course! =)
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Oh there is no doubt I want to root the phone. Just for the fact I want my apps off my phone and on my SD card only. I modded my HTC fuze to the fullist but now it's useless. So I can't wait to get back into the game. I know this phone is not the greatest out there but like I said it's something to get me by untill I decide on the Nexus One or maybe an EVO. Anyway I heard that same info about Advanced task killer so I will probibly stay away from that. I just want the ability of my phone to be the best it can be. Hope to see all you soon.
AkumaMax
@911Jason man, you're such a pest! Hahahahah j/k
So, I would go against putting all of your apps on the SD card. I've done a lot of research on this, and unless you have a Class 6 or higher card, running apps from the SD are pretty pointless. There is a pretty decent support forum around, it might take a while to get a reply, but its getting better.
Some of my favorite apps:
Launcher Pro Plus
PowerAmp
Audio Manager Pro
Dolphin HD Browser
ChompSMS
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Oh... and welcome to the Aria/Liberty forum!
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@911Jason man, you're such a pest! Hahahahah j/k
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Who me?! What'd I say?
Tasker is the one app I couldn't go without. Use it to automate settings such as WiFi, volumes, brightness. Make your own widgets, automatically send SMS messages. Look for the google group. The developer is there and provides great support.
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Well looks like I will be getting my new HTC ARIA tomorrow. Hopefully it comes before work. I can't wait first thing I am doing is a root. Man it will be so nice to be back on the forums with all you cool cats!
woohoo finally got it
Enjoy!
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Just wanted to say hi 2.
For all those with sgs2 try villainrom with nymphetamine 2.0.1 kernel.
It works great and for a heavy user like myself I must say the battery life is the best ever.
Nathalex27 said:
Just wanted to say hi 2.
For all those with sgs2 try villainrom with nymphetamine 2.0.1 kernel.
It works great and for a heavy user like myself I must say the battery life is the best ever.
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Remember this is the Aria forum...
saying hi, need ten post to ask stuff on cyanogen forum.
hello akumamax, welcome. i have had my aria for about a year now and i love this phone with cm7. there are so many good apps out there but the three things that stands out for me are:
1) amazon app store. there's a free pay app every day, and its yours to keep.
http://www.amazon.com/mobile-apps/b/ref=sa_menu_adr_app4?ie=UTF8&node=2350149011
2) s2e. this app is awesome and its free. been using it for about 6 months now and it has been flawless.
https://market.android.com/details?id=ru.krikun.s2e&feature=search_result
3) get s off… you'll need it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133446
good luck with your aria, enjoy
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hello akumamax, welcome. i have had my aria for about a year now and i love this phone with cm7. there are so many good apps out there but the three things that stands out for me are:
1) amazon app store. there's a free pay app every day, and its yours to keep.
http://www.amazon.com/mobile-apps/b/ref=sa_menu_adr_app4?ie=UTF8&node=2350149011
2) s2e. this app is awesome and its free. been using it for about 6 months now and it has been flawless.
https://market.android.com/details?id=ru.krikun.s2e&feature=search_result
3) get s off… you'll need it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133446
good luck with your aria, enjoy
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Have you noticed the date of this thread...
haha, totally miss that.... he probably has a new phone by now
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Hey guys/gals what is up. I'm so happy to announce that sometime next week my HTC Aria will be handed to me by UPS. Anyway I have been a member here for a while under the HTC Fuze(Touch PRO)section and tinkering around with there android port. That was untill my phones touch screen decided not to work back in june. So I have been Sitting around with my old Nokia that still has the Cingular Wireless logo on the back. Anyway I can't wait to finally be back in the phone game and finally on a true android phone. Is there any apps besides advanced task killer I should keep my eye out on?
Thanks a bunch,
Matt(AkumaMax)
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Still wondering if you have the device.
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Thread moved to OT. Would advise you to read forum rules and post in correct section.
Failure to comply with forum rules will result in an infraction and/or ban depending on severity of rule break.
Wow this thread is pretty old. I haven't had my Aria for a good 6 months. I've moved onto the Dell Streak 5.
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Still wondering if you have the device.
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Yes I still have the Aria. It's my backup in case my Dell streak 5 doesn't make it.
I'm not smart enough to make a operating system for a phone(or for anything). That's why I'm glad there are smart people to make the stuff we buy. I just have one complaint about android(many but I'm holding back for now). I've been using android since Nam! and I just can't understand why apps open by themselves. ITS NONSENSE! I was a windows user for a while and that never happened. And instead of an "advanced" task killer I had a task manager. I switched because android is more entertaining, and I have no desire to switch to anything else. I was just wondering why Android Development can't fix this horrid imperfection. And why xda developers can do such amazing things with the OS, but cannot improve this. I have been flashing many roms since my discovery of android and yes i even tried many task killers. Plus mine is set to to high security and Auto kill level to CRAZY, but still sometimes I'll have 12 apps open and only science knows why!
Thank you in advance
Open your task manager in windows. There is a bunch of stuff running in the background. some you need, some you don't. You can close certain things that are not important, but opening others may cause them to open again. Same kinda situation on Android system.
I used to fight them with task killers all the time. Then one day, I just gave up. And I noticed no difference.
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Open your task manager in windows. There is a bunch of stuff running in the background. some you need, some you don't. You can close certain things that are not important, but opening others may cause them to open again. Same kinda situation on Android system.
I used to fight them with task killers all the time. Then one day, I just gave up. And I noticed no difference.
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Thanks I understand now its funny but I actually was in the market two seconds ago and found Watchdog lite. I read the description and I feel horrible and very moronic. I think im going to delete this thread.
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Thanks I understand now its funny but I actually was in the market two seconds ago and found Watchdog lite. I read the description and I feel horrible and very moronic. I think im going to delete this thread.
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Don't feel like that for asking a question. If you don't ask, you'll never know
Plus, I am sure there are others on here who have wanted to ask the same question, and maybe this will be able to serve them as well.
Thanks a bunch borrowedchief, much appreciated. I'm about to download watchdog right now, I'm really excited about this! haha
I use autokiller but u must be rooted. With autokill u just choose a preset and it does all the work.
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If you want to feel dumb, feel dumb because it should be "all DUE respect" not "all do".
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What is the best auto task killer? I've been using advanced task killer by rechild from the market and it leaves a lot left to be desired in the way of automatically killing tasks.
Any good recommendations? Thanks!
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What is the best auto task killer? I've been using advanced task killer by rechild from the market and it leaves a lot left to be desired in the way of automatically killing tasks.
Any good recommendations? Thanks!
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best would be if everyone thought so, but in reality, best is what you think is best, as best will differ for every single person. i like fast reboot pro. it doesnt actually reboot your device, it just frees your ram memory like it is being rebooted.
I don't think you need a task killer in Lollipop, you haven't for a few years now.
If you do want to kill activities, you can just enable "do not keep activities" in developer options.
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I don't think you need a task killer in Lollipop, you haven't for a few years now.
If you do want to kill activities, you can just enable "do not keep activities" in developer options.
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that just wont let other apps open. many android people dont think that we need a task killer, as android will free ram when needed. and thats fine, thats their belief. for me, android doesnt do the job good enough, for how i use the device. for me, android is a little lazy to free ram. and when it finally does, it slows down any device. so, i can change where i want it to free ram, but its still a little lazy, so i free ram myself, and am much happier about it.
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What is the best auto task killer? I've been using advanced task killer by rechild from the market and it leaves a lot left to be desired in the way of automatically killing tasks.
Any good recommendations? Thanks!
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A task killer is generally not needed nor recommended for any android version over 4.0. The OS will automatically fee memory when needed. Most phones upgraded to lollipop have ample memory and killing idle tasks serves no purpose and only ibcraaes the app load time when it is relaunched.
If however you must close a task for whatever reason you can do so directly from the system settings under apps>running>select force stop. You could even setup a shortcut to this on the home screen.
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A task killer is generally not needed nor recommended for any android version over 4.0. The OS will automatically fee memory when needed. Most phones upgraded to lollipop have ample memory and killing idle tasks serves no purpose and only ibcraaes the app load time when it is relaunched.
If however you must close a task for whatever reason you can do so directly from the system settings under apps>running>select force stop. You could even setup a shortcut to this on the home screen.
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Exactly. Unused ram is wasted ram. Task killers are bs! Don't use these garbage apps! I keep all my apps open and still only use 1/2 my available ram.
Well yea I only force stop if a program is not responding... But wouldn't keeping a program active in the memory use up precious battery life?
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Well yea I only force stop if a program is not responding... But wouldn't keeping a program active in the memory use up precious battery life?
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No. When an app is jot in the foreground it is not using CPU cycles so there is no battery drain. Consumed ram does not affect battery life.
However killing an app totally will cause a greater amount of processing to open the next time you use it and that will equal more consumed battery.
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What is the best auto task killer? I've been using advanced task killer by rechild from the market and it leaves a lot left to be desired in the way of automatically killing tasks.
Any good recommendations? Thanks!
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You're better off with greenify. Especially if you're rooted.
Posted below is an image from the greenify app analyzer... What should I do? Select all those apps?
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Posted below is an image from the greenify app analyzer... What should I do? Select all those apps?
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I generally do not Greenify widgets but apps such as Facebook, Allcast and others that I don't constantly refer to. It's up to you what you use it for though. With 5.0.x folks can no longer Greenify "system" apps such as youtube, G+ and whatnot .. which is kind of a bummer.
I don't care what anyone says....android absolutely still needs a task killer. And I'm pissed off that atk no longer works. I have a note 4, and my available memory is now half what it was, and it DOES effect performance because android is still one big memory leak! Geeees!
Using task killers is just slowing your device down. Android is not like windows with its lousy ram management.
As for samsung devices those will always be slow due to the crappy way Samsung does software.
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Using task killers is just slowing your device down. Android is not like windows with its lousy ram management.
As for samsung devices those will always be slow due to the crappy way Samsung does software.
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Well, that's funny. ....I might be new to xda, but not in the least new to android phones and tablets. The funny thing is, all my Samsung devices have been plenty fast. And surprisingly (not really), that only holds true WHEN I'M ABLE TO KILL ALL THE BS MANUALLY. It is for this reason that ANDROID still needs a task killer. If there were ONLY ONE flavor of android, completely stock, on EVERY manufacturers device, on every carrier, then that might not be the case, but then again that would be Microsoft Windows, now, wouldn't it? And not android. Android's best feature is that it's customizable.
As for telling me that using task killers is slowing me down. ......EXPERIENCE SIMPLY PROVES THAT FALSE. If that WERE true, then rebooting the phone (the only easy way to kill all tasks now) wouldn't show a notable improvement in speed, and not rebooting wouldn't result in degradation of performance over time. And neither of those are evident in empirical experience. Not rebooting DOES result in degrading performance over time, and rebooting DOES result in notable increase in performance.
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Well, that's funny. ....I might be new to xda, but not in the least new to android phones and tablets. The funny thing is, all my Samsung devices have been plenty fast. And surprisingly (not really), that only holds true WHEN I'M ABLE TO KILL ALL THE BS MANUALLY. It is for this reason that ANDROID still needs a task killer. If there were ONLY ONE flavor of android, completely stock, on EVERY manufacturers device, on every carrier, then that might not be the case, but then again that would be Microsoft Windows, now, wouldn't it? And not android. Android's best feature is that it's customizable.
As for telling me that using task killers is slowing me down. ......EXPERIENCE SIMPLY PROVES THAT FALSE. If that WERE true, then rebooting the phone (the only easy way to kill all tasks now) wouldn't show a notable improvement in speed, and not rebooting wouldn't result in degradation of performance over time. And neither of those are evident in empirical experience. Not rebooting DOES result in degrading performance over time, and rebooting DOES result in notable increase in performance.
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That is because of Samsung lousy software. Take a look at any nexus device and you will see weeks of not rebooting without a bit of slow down or lag.
Your experience is not relevant as it is Samsung based which means it is not pure android. It's a distro like many Linux distros. Also your experience with Android is pointless as android is still new.
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That is because of Samsung lousy software. Take a look at any nexus device and you will see weeks of not rebooting without a bit of slow down or lag.
Your experience is not relevant as it is Samsung based which means it is not pure android. It's a distro like many Linux distros. Also your experience with Android is pointless as android is still new.
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So then it's just that you don't like Samsung and that you have a love affair with nexus, not that you have any real valid argument to support your sentiment about task killers. OK. Great. Happy for you. Now that we got your phone love situation figured out, let's honestly discuss the lunacy of your opinion. It is completely nonsensical. OOOOOHHHH it's a Samsung. The way they do things, blah blah blah. News flash, supergenius, Samsung holds 65% of the android market. Like Samsung or not, they dominate the market, so if android on their devices has memory leaks, 65% OF THE MARKET needs task killers. It doesn't take Stephen Hawking to figure that out. Further, Android launched in 2008. That's 7 years ago, and is the lions share of smart device OS's. This hardly qualifies as "still new".
In all your infinite wisdom, do you truly have no clue how ludicrous your statements are?
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So then it's just that you don't like Samsung and that you have a love affair with nexus, not that you have any real valid argument to support your sentiment about task killers. OK. Great. Happy for you. Now that we got your phone love situation figured out, let's honestly discuss the lunacy of your opinion. It is completely nonsensical. OOOOOHHHH it's a Samsung. The way they do things, blah blah blah. News flash, supergenius, Samsung holds 65% of the android market. Like Samsung or not, they dominate the market, so if android on their devices has memory leaks, 65% OF THE MARKET needs task killers. It doesn't take Stephen Hawking to figure that out. Further, Android launched in 2008. That's 7 years ago, and is the lions share of smart device OS's. This hardly qualifies as "still new".
In all your infinite wisdom, do you truly have no clue how ludicrous your statements are?
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Gotta love noobs with an attitude........ Was kindergarten closed today?
certx said:
So then it's just that you don't like Samsung and that you have a love affair with nexus, not that you have any real valid argument to support your sentiment about task killers. OK. Great. Happy for you. Now that we got your phone love situation figured out, let's honestly discuss the lunacy of your opinion. It is completely nonsensical. OOOOOHHHH it's a Samsung. The way they do things, blah blah blah. News flash, supergenius, Samsung holds 65% of the android market. Like Samsung or not, they dominate the market, so if android on their devices has memory leaks, 65% OF THE MARKET needs task killers. It doesn't take Stephen Hawking to figure that out. Further, Android launched in 2008. That's 7 years ago, and is the lions share of smart device OS's. This hardly qualifies as "still new".
In all your infinite wisdom, do you truly have no clue how ludicrous your statements are?
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First off before you start going off at the mouth you should understand someones history before you jump to conclusions. how much of the market samsung holds is pointless. Mainly when most Samsung devices here are not running samsungs Touchwiz software.
I am no fan boy of any OEM at all. They all have their issues. As does the OS.
Now I have used every samsung device that has ever been released up to the s4. Where I walked away from them when they lied to developers. 3rd party developers are what made them popular and like HTC they turned their backs on the developers. ITs only a matter of time until they follow the same route.
Yes 7 years is still very new in the terms of OS. The OS is still so new that it cant even take advantage of the hardware that oem are using in their device.
gee2012 said:
Gotta love noobs with an attitude........ Was kindergarten closed today?
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Heh... "noob" ... LOL Attitude. LOL No... brains. One could easily say "supergeniuses" with an attitude... expecially when they have such a high opinion of themselves that they are completely blind to the truth from those arguing against them. ... making a statement like "Gotta love noobs with an attitude" is highly indicative of the inability to admit that the "noob" is completely right.
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zelendel said:
First off before you start going off at the mouth you should understand someones history before you jump to conclusions. how much of the market samsung holds is pointless. Mainly when most Samsung devices here are not running samsungs Touchwiz software.
I am no fan boy of any OEM at all. They all have their issues. As does the OS.
Now I have used every samsung device that has ever been released up to the s4. Where I walked away from them when they lied to developers. 3rd party developers are what made them popular and like HTC they turned their backs on the developers. ITs only a matter of time until they follow the same route.
Yes 7 years is still very new in the terms of OS. The OS is still so new that it cant even take advantage of the hardware that oem are using in their device.
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You continue to argue "device maker", when in reality that is a completely pointless argument. Gasoline produces high carbon emissions when burned, so we shouldn't use it. Right. True. But sense less than .0000001% of motor vehicles use anything else, .... well... you see the point I'm making there I'm sure. Market share DOES matter. Regardless of any downside you may perceive in Samsung devices... they are still currently the majority of devices in use. You completely contradict yourself also.... In one... Android doesn't need task killers. In another "They all have their issues. As does the OS" ... so then it does still need task killers.
Now...I completely concur. One should not be jumping to conclusions about someone, of whom they know nothing...... For example.... I'm a 30 year veteran programmer and software developer. I've worked on everything from IBM OS/VS1 and OS/VM, to DOS, to AT&T Unix, to SCO Unix, to VAX, to the very first version of Linux before there even was a RedHat, Ubuntu, Fedora, etc, before Gnome and KDE and the rest, from MS Windows v 3.0 up through Windows XP, 2000, etc. and all the NT's and other MS Server OS's in there. I've worked in the cell phone industry for several years, up to and including during the development and release of Android at the beginning. I've used several different devices, including the crappiest devices ever produced in the world (Huawei... who makes the Nexus by the way- I used one once. ONCE!).
So... when you start arguing "device makers" rather than the actual subject (whether or not task killers are still helpful), YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT! That's not a "noob" statement Mr. gee2012 ... it's a statement of fact .... and anyone who would think that they can insult someone like me, with a statement like that, is less than worthy of the disccussion with me.
certx said:
Heh... "noob" ... LOL Attitude. LOL No... brains. One could easily say "supergeniuses" with an attitude... expecially when they have such a high opinion of themselves that they are completely blind to the truth from those arguing against them. ... making a statement like "Gotta love noobs with an attitude" is highly indicative of the inability to admit that the "noob" is completely right.
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You continue to argue "device maker", when in reality that is a completely pointless argument. Gasoline produces high carbon emissions when burned, so we shouldn't use it. Right. True. But sense less than .0000001% of motor vehicles use anything else, .... well... you see the point I'm making there I'm sure. Market share DOES matter. Regardless of any downside you may perceive in Samsung devices... they are still currently the majority of devices in use. You completely contradict yourself also.... In one... Android doesn't need task killers. In another "They all have their issues. As does the OS" ... so then it does still need task killers.
Now...I completely concur. One should not be jumping to conclusions about someone, of whom they know nothing...... For example.... I'm a 30 year veteran programmer and software developer. I've worked on every from IBM OS/VS1 and OS/VM, to DOS, to AT&T Unix, to SCO Unix, to VAX, to the very first version of Linux before, from MS Windows v 3.0 up through Windows XP and all the NT's and other MS Server OS's in there. I've worked in the cell phone industry for several years, up to and including during the development and release of Android at the beginning. I've used several different devices, including the crappiest devices ever produced in the world (Huawei... who makes the Nexus by the way- I used one once. ONCE!).
So... when you start arguing "device makers" rather than the actual subject, YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT! That's not a "noob" statement Mr. gee2012 ... it's a statement of fact .... and anyone who would think that they can insult someone like me, with a statement like that, is less than worthy of the disccussion with me.
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Look I have had enough of your attitude. here you are just another noob.
Yes I said there are issues. As you seem to have an issue with reading, I never said Android needs task killers.
For someone that says they have worked on soo many things you seem to miss the fact that the OEM does matter as each one uses different distros of android. Touch wiz is as different from stock android as windows 98 is from windows 10.
Now with your attitude maybe its time to decide if you are worthy to even be here.
Now as this topic has been talked about to death over the years and it is going no where.
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