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Just saw on the g2x forum that official gingerbread is avalible for it. That hopefully means we shouldn't be that long after. Or, is it T-mobile that's making that firmware? Anyhow, it shouldn't be that hard to make it work on our phone. Atleast till LG releases theres.
Anyway, what's your thoughts? Should someone try to fix this for our device? Should be relativity easy. And if it is tmo that's making the FW, then I guess mkv support and such is gone. Pauls Gr1 is probably better in every way except maybe stability, which should interest someone atleast.
Looks gash to me, Gingerbread userspace atop Froyo kernel.
Just read Paul O'brien's tweet: "v21e rolling to the G2X... better late than never eh?"
Hopefully the update voor de 2X will follow soon.
Fingers crossed
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Ive been using the GR1 from modaco site and it damn smooth, cant wait till other devs get there hands on it to tweak and kernel it, it will be MEGA
Some Italian site had the news of gb release in UK, anyone can confirm?
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They were wrong.
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Looks gash to me, Gingerbread userspace atop Froyo kernel.
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Don't worry optimus brothers and sisters... You aren't missing out on much! Its not an official update, by that I mean its not complete or supported by T-Mobile USA. As stated it still has a froyo kernel and the only thing that changed for me was faster GPS lock and faster boot time, otherwise cm7 is still the way to go. Also comes with stupid asop camera and only 2.3.3
I'm tired of LG!
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Just wondering if this had anything to do with the class action lawsuits.
Anyone in the UK think we can return the handset under the sale of goods act as it said Upgradable to GB on the box but is still not upgradable?
As some of you who follow me on Twitter (@Hashcode0f) may already know, I booted up ICS today on the Droid 3.
Almost nothing works (including touch sensor for the screen), but it's progress on that front.
The question remains.. where should I spend my time?
And you the community get to make that choice.
New Poll at Rootz
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/10227-ics-booted-now-what/
My god you are amazing!
Hey hash did you get my PM? I can't post in the deveopment forum
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I don't know how good ICS is.. and also depends on how long it would take to get a functional build (everyday use). If it takes 3+ months I say finish CM7 first
I'd still like to see the LED used only for notifications. The sound, camera and 3g errors are no biggie but they're nagging imperfections in an otherwise killer ROM.
What sort of advances does ICS offer over the current Android?
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I say work on CM7 Hash, if Googlerola gets us an unlocked bootloader by 2012, ICS will be way easier to work on
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verkerria said:
I say work on CM7 Hash, if Googlerola gets us an unlocked bootloader by 2012, ICS will be way easier to work on
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to me its looking like verizon isnt going to unlock our bootloaders ever so dont let that sway your choice
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What sort of advances does ICS offer over the current Android?
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That's what I'm saying. Liberty rom and ADW launcher got me with no issues look or performance wise. Unless ICS has bigger changes than the obvious theme and performance changes. Ain't no point to me in worrying about.
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Some day....the bootloader will be unlocked. That day...will be when nobody cares about this phone anymore...unfortunately
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tacosrdelicioso said:
Some day....the bootloader will be unlocked. That day...will be when nobody cares about this phone anymore...unfortunately
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the D4 is coming out, people barely adopted this one. people already don't care about this phone.
I would much rather you rebuild safestrap to make 2nd system on SD Card.
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Some day....the bootloader will be unlocked. That day...will be when nobody cares about this phone anymore...unfortunately
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If it were up to Motorola only, they would probably unlock the bootloader, but Verizon has the final say.
I would love to see ICS for the Droid 3, I imagine we will see a Motorola issued update sometime next year, it would be nice if they didn't use Motoblur with ICS but I'm not getting my hopes up.
I would love to have unmolested ICS on my phone. I don't like much of Blur.
Hashcode you are our Droid3-God Thanks!
I love the task-app of Blur and that everything is black on white.
thank y for your hard working !
I know chevycam and i'm sure other developers are waiting for a working CM version to use as a base for their own roms. Plus getting the drivers and other assorted bugs worked out now on 7 should help when CM9 comes out later.
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I know chevycam and i'm sure other developers are waiting for a working CM version to use as a base for their own roms. Plus getting the drivers and other assorted bugs worked out now on 7 should help when CM9 comes out later.
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GB is a year old, we need to move on. I've had GB since the first Droid OG port.
Stay on the cutting edge, Hashcode! Thanks for your work!
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CM7 for sure. It will make CM9 easy. Then, we can also have MIUI and other AOSP based ROMs. It might not even be possible to get ICS working completely without a new kernel. But it is definitely possible to finish CM7. It's a waste of time to work on ICS now.
Not necessarily GoogleAndroid. Remember that he would have to make everything work since the code base for ICS is a huge change from the code base for GB. I would think that would be the case unless the CM team takes care of that.
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What do you think odds are that you will have ics up on the droid 3 before motorola releases it for the bionic(would be jokes but I bet odds are super good)? Would the bionic ics source speed up your port to droid 3 or make it more stable? I guess I could think of a list of questions as a noob but honestly, the main would be which makes most sense to you? That's the box I would check in the poll.
Why is it so hard to find themes for the liberty rom? I keep finding broken links.
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because Eclipse is where it's at
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where as liberty is an excelent rom, it is out of date. eclipse is the most current rom.
Eclipse runs slower for me and doesn't pick up 4g (I live at the border of a 4g area, get 4g with liberty, get 3g with eclipse.
I dont really see liberty as being outdated but more of a completed rom that doesn't need to be worked on. I really don't see too much more they can do to it until Motorola releases ICS. performance and battery life have been great (battery was better before they got the 4g to my house but that's to be expected)
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Eclipse runs slower for me and doesn't pick up 4g (I live at the border of a 4g area, get 4g with liberty, get 3g with eclipse.
I dont really see liberty as being outdated but more of a completed rom that doesn't need to be worked on. I really don't see too much more they can do to it until Motorola releases ICS. performance and battery life have been great (battery was better before they got the 4g to my house but that's to be expected)
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Eclipse runs better for me. Liberty was my favorite rom on the Droid X so that's what I thought I'd stick with. I started running it as soon as I got my bionic and it was an improvement over stock and I thought that with a few more releases that it would be a beast but support was dropped and it was still lacking performance. Then I tried Eclipse and I was pleasantly surprised, it runs as good as I expected Liberty to run.
But even if liberty is outdated, its a bad sign for our community that we can't find themes for it. I'm still able find themes for the Droid Eris that I used 2 years ago but can't find a theme for a newer phone.
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But even if liberty is outdated, its a bad sign for our community that we can't find themes for it. I'm still able find themes for the Droid Eris that I used 2 years ago but can't find a theme for a newer phone.
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you can find themes for your phone, just not the rom you want. the system version has nothing to do with your data connection, thats what the radio is for. there will be so performance differance between users, but for the most part people should get similar results.
http://gunnermike53.com/Bionic/Liberty/
thats the links to my 2 liberty bionic themes. some of the apps will be out dated, but the systemui and frameworks will be the same.
if you are satisfied with liberty then by all means stick with it, i am in no way minimizing team liberty's skills. they just havent done any work on the bionic since they all got thier new toy.
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you can find themes for your phone, just not the rom you want. the system version has nothing to do with your data connection, thats what the radio is for. there will be so performance differance between users, but for the most part people should get similar results.
http://gunnermike53.com/Bionic/Liberty/
thats the links to my 2 liberty bionic themes. some of the apps will be out dated, but the systemui and frameworks will be the same.
if you are satisfied with liberty then by all means stick with it, i am in no way minimizing team liberty's skills. they just havent done any work on the bionic since they all got thier new toy.
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I talked to kejar and he told me that liberty was intended to be something other developers could build off of. I'm not sure.what else they could do to it because the performance I get is outstanding. Unfortunately we don't have too many rom development enthusiasts on the bionic to play with it.
I also don't believe it to be a radio issue because I get 4g on liberty and only 3g with eclipse with the same radio. If I was having problems with 4g on liberty, I would agree. But the radio works just fine with one rom and doesn't on the other. I'm on liberty gold I believe it is, the last version they released.
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I talked to kejar and he told me that liberty was intended to be something other developers could build off of. I'm not sure.what else they could do to it because the performance I get is outstanding. Unfortunately we don't have too many rom development enthusiasts on the bionic to play with it.
I also don't believe it to be a radio issue because I get 4g on liberty and only 3g with eclipse with the same radio. If I was having problems with 4g on liberty, I would agree. But the radio works just fine with one rom and doesn't on the other. I'm on liberty gold I believe it is, the last version they released.
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yes it was built for others to work with. again, that change when the new builds came out.
it doesnt matter what you believe about the data issue. the fact is that the radio is what controls your data connection. if you want to go on beliveing something that isnt true, well, thats up to you. ive told you what the facts are, its up to you what you do with it.
If it is the radio, why does it only impact the one rom but not the other? It seems that if the problem was the radio, I would have issues with both roms.
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And I know that the radio controls the data, but that still does not explain why I don't have the same data issues on both roms. The radio hasn't changed on my phone. Only thing different is the rom. If radio isn't giving me problems with one rom, why is it giving me problems with another. That's why I don't believe the issue is with the radio itself. It could have something to do with how the rom reads the radio.
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And I know that the radio controls the data, but that still does not explain why I don't have the same data issues on both roms. The radio hasn't changed on my phone. Only thing different is the rom. If radio isn't giving me problems with one rom, why is it giving me problems with another. That's why I don't believe the issue is with the radio itself. It could have something to do with how the rom reads the radio.
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im not going to continue to argue with you. the fact is your wrong. you can argue that all you want. the most likely thing is that you did something wrong and thats why you had problems. either way i dont care. run what ever rom you want. but you have your answer as to the lack of themes for liberty.
I'm not trying to argue. I'm just curious why its an issue with one rom and not another. Apparently there isn't anyone who can give me an explanation of why? Just saying its a radio issue doesn't really explain why it works fine on the other rom.
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But thanks for explaining why there aren't more themes for liberty.
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http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=57374053&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-266
Blame the hardware. How about blame the developers on their end!
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I don't reckon most Droid 3 owners give a **** about ICS on their phones, nor do they have any clue what it even is. That is a shame though, because for Android enthusiasts like us, it is a big deal, especially when we are running ICS on it already and it makes MotoBlur look like the old LG Env interface.
Most people don't root, and Verizon isn't going to promote an OS version over a new handset. I love my D3, but it's utter nonsense that it won't get official ICS just months after Google called the version the great unifier that can and will run on every phone.
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I'm still running the alpha 6 and all seriousness if it weren't for a few things I would swear it was better than alpha. If motorola only knew what a pure ics experience was like on their hardware they could easily bury samsung and the crap nexus they released.
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http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=57374053&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-266
Blame the hardware. How about blame the developers on their end!
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I compared the hardware specs between XT860 and Galaxy Nexus and the only differences I really saw was that we only have 512mb ram. Same GPU almost the same CPU, I think moto is buying time so Goog can save them
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Most people don't root, and Verizon isn't going to promote an OS version over a new handset. I love my D3, but it's utter nonsense that it won't get official ICS just months after Google called the version the great unifier that can and will run on every phone.
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Moto still has not confirmed that the D3 is not getting ICS. As the DX and D2 both received GB well after they were no longer being sold, I think it's a good possibility that it will. We'll see, though.
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Moto still has not confirmed that the D3 is not getting ICS. As the DX and D2 both received GB well after they were no longer being sold, I think it's a good possibility that it will. We'll see, though.
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I think hashcode will get us ics long before moto does
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He already has. And Beta is right around the corner.
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How about unlocking the damn boot loaders and let us decide what is on our phone
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Well, that too.
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How about unlocking the damn boot loaders and let us decide what is on our phone
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I doubt that we will ever see bootloaders unlocked on our current phones. I suspect that it could not be done without sending the phones back to Motorola and having them replace the "one time" programmable firmware. Why else would having a Dev Razr be useless for unlocking other Razrs. I think the only way we would ever be able to put anything we wanted on these phones would be if Moto released their encrypted key so that the phone would accept it. FAT chance of that happening, but I bet that hasn't crossed anyone's mind at Moto. Maybe we could suggest that to them.
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The main bootloader unlock change.org page is over 7500 signed. Its got to mean something.
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Here's some good news though
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/0...n-of-motorola-to-clear-as-early-as-next-week/ Hopefully this will get something done and some good progress made.
nice!
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Good. Motorola actually has some nice hardware now but they suck with software it seems.
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The main bootloader unlock change.org page is over 7500 signed. Its got to mean something.
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OK, can someone answer a possibly dumb question for me? I've spent the last year happily rooting my original Droid and running custom roms - finally settling on Cyanogen Mod. Now, I'm no expert but I've found it pretty easy to do by just following the instructions that are available many places online. I now have my Droid 3 and so far am just running it stock - waiting for CM9 to get to a release version.
So, from the discussion I'm assuming that rooting the Device and loading Cyanogen is somehow something less than "unlocking the boot loader". But if it is, does that matter? Whatever that actually means it doesn't seem to be preventing anyone from running custom ROM's - or am I missing something?
Reminds me of h4ck1ng t3h g1b50n
Hack the planet!
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OK, can someone answer a possibly dumb question for me? I've spent the last year happily rooting my original Droid and running custom roms - finally settling on Cyanogen Mod. Now, I'm no expert but I've found it pretty easy to do by just following the instructions that are available many places online. I now have my Droid 3 and so far am just running it stock - waiting for CM9 to get to a release version.
So, from the discussion I'm assuming that rooting the Device and loading Cyanogen is somehow something less than "unlocking the boot loader". But if it is, does that matter? Whatever that actually means it doesn't seem to be preventing anyone from running custom ROM's - or am I missing something?
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With a locked bootloader we ca still run custom roms thanks to tricky devs but no custom kernels
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With a locked bootloader we ca still run custom roms thanks to tricky devs but no custom kernels
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But I used to run custom kernels on my Droid 1 too. I was running CM7.1 with a Chevy#1 (think that's what it was) kernel which was what let me use Set CPU to overclock. Is that not loading a "custom kernel"? Or was the boot loader unlocked on my Droid 2?
I'm not criticizing or saying anyone else is wrong - I'm just trying to understand what the differences are between what I have been doing and having a true "unlocked boot loader". What are the things that would allow me to do that can't be done now?
droid 1 is the only true unlocked bootloader moto phone with the exception of the atrix, which was accomplished with many many hours of work.
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AT&T Notes get theirs tomorrow. Hopefully we get ours too/soon, maybe like the S2 did.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/02/att-galaxy-note-jellybean/
... Alternately some one can make a kang for our T879's
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It is all ready out for the att version so one can only assume that the Tmobile version will be really soon
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It is all ready out for the att version so one can only assume that the Tmobile version will be really soon
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That's making a big assumption. T-Mobile may not even be thinking about JB for our phones. After all, they didn't sell very many of them to begin with. They may be focusing on getting updates out to their more popular phones (GSIII and Note II).
I would love to see JB from T-Mo, but i'm not holding my breath. Plus, with CM10 and Carbon ROM already at 4.2.2, it's not like we don't have decent JB options.
I would love to try a touchwiz based jb ROM though. But that means I would have to go back to stock unless ptmr wants to update his Jedi leader ROM if we even get jb... I don't see that happening though
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S suite / touch wiz and wifi calling is what I miss on CM.
The closest thing I can suggest would be to flash the at&t version but use the "blaze" modem. If you do go this route make sure that the one that you flash is prerooted that way you can remove the at&t bloatware. Now you will loose the WiFi calling until someone can go through both two versions to find where the "WiFi calling" is located
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Actually there are about 20k of this model in the wild. T Mobile made a deal with Samsung in order to get a jump on the Galaxy 4 they literally bought enough of this model to fill a warehouse. T Mobile then turned around and contracted their sales out to places like Costco and Wal-Mart where they are still being sold at a discounted price.
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I wouldn't mind flashing the AT&T JB if it will fly - just to see what the feel is like.
I am quite dependent on WIFI calling, but I can always reflash the original and reload my apps I guess.
if anyone has already done this: if there are kinks, could you please post back?
If it does one out I would like to see what is different because from what I understand the Canada version has the pop out browser which the att version doesn't meanwhile both are missing the nav panel and multi Window
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I wouldn't mind flashing the AT&T JB if it will fly - just to see what the feel is like.
I am quite dependent on WIFI calling, but I can always reflash the original and reload my apps I guess.
if anyone has already done this: if there are kinks, could you please post back?
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I have a t879 and a i717. AT&T JB will not boot on the t879 even with different radios even tried a NANDROID Backup from my i171
Huh...... How odd.....
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S suite / touch wiz and wifi calling is what I miss on CM.
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Wifi Calling is the only one I miss with CM based AvatarROM. The S Suite are just something there that I used 10% of the time. And I hated touchwiz. It makes my phone sllloooowwww and buggy. I'm loving my ROM now its fast, although not as smooth but still very stable.
I agree with that statement and I have wondered is there a way to compare the touchwiz from the att room and the touchwiz from tmobile to find the difference? I would be more than happy to wade through the code myself is someone could point me into the proper direction.....
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just reading around the web, the JB release I think is inevitable. i717, s3 and s2 are out, the international version N7000 is out in some parts of the world [not all], so, its just t-mo that is slow at this point. could be any day, any hour.
then we'll all figure out what we hate about it and resume complaining....
Good point......
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I'm frankly on the fence here - reading through the AT&T version group's collective notes - I dunno what the gain is with JB.
that its new? there are a number of folks that have had troubles [this is not unusual - check google for any sort of notes on 'upgrade to jelly bean'] - shorter battery life, jerky performance, hangs, lags.
I am VERY happy with the stock/rooted/debloated performance I'm getting.
we just picked up a GS3. I was set to be dazzled by its performance etc and spent hours getting it nuked to the bone, then installing, rooting, debloating. To me, its not worth the extra money compared to what I paid for the note 1. there is neglible performance difference [i'm not gaming, so take that into consideration]. side by side, any fool on earth would pick the Note's display, not just because its bigger but it looks startlingly gorgeous next to the GS3. The GS3 had a bunch of wifi connectivity issues. I don't know if I have them all squashed yet or not - jury is still out.
there's more "interference ware" on the GS3 - things that are scanning in the background to tell you all sorts of dangers are lurking. some I could uninstall safely, some not. the Note, the way I have it config'd, is 'quiet' by comparison.
battery life looks like the Note wins so far. will know better once the GS3 is finalized and real use occurs a lot.
if it were strictly my call, I'd trade the 3 for another note 1.
jellybeans or not.... i prefer beefsteak.
What about beefsteak flavored jellybeans?
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Maybe
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That's making a big assumption. T-Mobile may not even be thinking about JB for our phones. After all, they didn't sell very many of them to begin with. They may be focusing on getting updates out to their more popular phones (GSIII and Note II).
I would love to see JB from T-Mo, but i'm not holding my breath. Plus, with CM10 and Carbon ROM already at 4.2.2, it's not like we don't have decent JB options.
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Thats true but we will always have problems until they release the official JB, we all suffer from the random reboots followed by the blue screen when running these roms....Im using rooted stock, that way I know everything works instead of finding out when I need to use a feature.