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All I'm looking for is a standard flash player that would play .flv, .swf and h.264 files from video channels like YouTube, Vimeo, Exposure Room, etc...
They all use a standard flash player which streams, or downloads the files so it shouldn't be that difficult to implement I would think.
The Hero rom has already shown a flash player that works, basically as a plugin to the browser, so there must be a way to port it to the other roms.
I'd like to see this too.
wait until October, which is when adobe will be releasing their flash player for the android platform. and btw the flash player on hero sucks and is utterly pointless. I believe its Flash 8 all the sites you listed req Flash 10.
I found the Hero one to be usable, but only just. The sound seems ok, but the picture is a bit stuttery. It will be interesting to see if it's really the old hardware used in the Hero that's not up to it, or whether a differnt app can do better. I hear that the beebplayer is also poor on the Hero - not tried it yet - so perhaps it's the hardware?
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wait until October, which is when adobe will be releasing their flash player for the android platform. and btw the flash player on hero sucks and is utterly pointless. I believe its Flash 8 all the sites you listed req Flash 10.
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can you please provide a link to this article?
there is one check the market
Yeah, I had no luck what so ever trying to play video from any of the top video sharing websites, due to the fact that the player version was 8.0. I did however have great success with viewing flash-based websites (typically exported as Flash 8 or earlier for compatibility).
That is going to be an issue that the Flash player will have to contend with when it is released in October. The player will have to be updated regularly everytime a new version of Flash comes out. Hopefully Adobe will stay on top of that, or the player will become obsolete very quickly.
I hope you don't mean the Android7 Flash Player in the market?
http://www.cyrket.com/package/org.android7.flashplayer
It will play an .flv and what not, but you would have to have the file locally on your phone.
It isn't a browser-based solution where you can click on a video link and then launch the player to begin streaming, or downloading the video like you can with the YouTube player.
That is what we need, only for any website that is hosting a flash-based video. Either that, or these websites have to begin offering free downloads of the original uploaded videos.
We saw a sneak peak of what's to come with the flash-enabled Hero rom, but like we all know, that is only for version 8.
Actually, the Flash Player in Hero is so far pretty sufficient, it actually can play YouTube videos, you just have to click on the video itself and it will open in the Flash player.
However, I do agree, further development would be nice. For example, when on sites like Myspace, I would like to hear some profile music playing, it would just in total add to the whole "internet phone" concept.
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http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009/06/22/adobes-flash-10-for-android-a-big-win-for-mobile-web-apps/
the flash player on the hero rom is ok....it will be perfect one i can watch hulu bangros on my g1...lol
makes me sad...
yeah,
my friend recently got a HTC phone, don't remember which one though. it was for either sprint or verizon and he can go to facebook and play the actual apps on there like restaurant city and mouse hunt, etc. why is it that we don't have it yet?
Flash, being proprietary closed source crap, is contrary to the nature of android. Adobe has in the past been VERY slow in supporting new platforms, so quite frankly, it really should die altogether. There are plenty of open source alternatives for flash-type content that can be used instead. Instead of complaining here, you should complain to the content provider who chose to use that crap format.
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can you please provide a link to this article?
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http://gizmodo.com/5300800/flash-for-android-webos-landing-in-october
tuto0503 said:
the flash player on the hero rom is ok....it will be perfect one i can watch hulu bangros on my g1...lol
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hulu blocked mobile devices. so no phone can veiw hulu anymore. i dont know why they would do that but sadly they did
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yeah,
my friend recently got a HTC phone, don't remember which one though. it was for either sprint or verizon and he can go to facebook and play the actual apps on there like restaurant city and mouse hunt, etc. why is it that we don't have it yet?
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if it was a winmo phone then he can do it because he was using skyfire. his phone doesnt have flash but skyfires servers do.
skyfire uses proxy servers to intercept browser requests which are then compressed and sent to skyfire enabled phones. the proxy server technology has the smarts to take flash video/games, java and other desktop class features that normally slow down mobile browsers dramatically, if those features are even supported, and render them correctly, truly giving mobile users flash.
The one on hero is pretty good, you can play games on sites and stuff, but looking forward to 10 coming out
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yeah,
my friend recently got a HTC phone, don't remember which one though. it was for either sprint or verizon and he can go to facebook and play the actual apps on there like restaurant city and mouse hunt, etc. why is it that we don't have it yet?
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Was he using skyfire? seems like it could be it as it was able to go on and watch hulu videos.
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Was he using skyfire? seems like it could be it as it was able to go on and watch hulu videos.
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not sure, I'll ask him though.
check it out here Opera Mobile it's a tad bit buggy. obviously beta. but flash is working somewhat.. it takes a lil fingering out to get it working. but youtube videos are playing in full screen glory on my expo now!
enjoy at your own risk
if you've already got opera installed this will over install but you will keep your bookmarks and what not.. mine did anyway
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check it out here Opera Mobile it's a tad bit buggy. obviously beta. but flash is working somewhat.. it takes a lil fingering out to get it working. but youtube videos are playing in full screen glory on my expo now!
enjoy at your own risk
if you've already got opera installed this will over install but you will keep your bookmarks and what not.. mine did anyway
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I personally prefer UcWeb Browser. Its more a "mobile" browser.
Where did you get the english version of UCWeb? I downloaded it but its all in japanese.
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Where did you get the english version of UCWeb? I downloaded it but its all in japanese.
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http://www.uc.cn/English/download.shtml
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Its more a "mobile" browser.
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What does that mean?
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What does that mean?
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while opera is a fine browser it trys to emulate a desktop experience, which isnt all bad, it does a good job.
UCWeb on the ohter hand doesnt try to be a desktop, is a browser which knows its on a mobile device and does everything it can to accommodate to that fact.
Which model?
The LG Expo or GW820 or 825 is not listed as a model to pick - what's the next best choice for WVGA screen? HTC HD2?
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The LG Expo or GW820 or 825 is not listed as a model to pick - what's the next best choice for WVGA screen? HTC HD2?
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idk, dont remember what i picked lol, just try one
Choose the default version
Tried the HD2 version before you mentioned the default one, Phatride - seems to work ok so far, but still prefer Opera Mobile 10 b3
on this beta and the release i noticed that pictures were blurry and loaded slowly. i did not try you tube because i use coreplayer for youtube because it plays youtube very clear (h264 720p and FLV) if you change the format in the settings under channel
CorePlayer
I have heard of this coreplayer, but don't know where to get it. Can someone post a link?
Is this the best video viewing experience on the lg expo? I used Divx Player on my Fuze, and it did decent. is Divx and CorePlayer comparable?
Thanks.
anyone tried this yet? just got it from market and it runs pretty quick, plus it plays (most) videos that i've tested so far.
it's actually pretty damn good, fixes our issue with embedded flash videos!
Does skyfire only run on android 2.1? I'm still with my stable modaco 3.2 on android 2.1
Just wondering why I can't find Skyfire in the market. Is this due to the 1.5 or because I live in Belgium?
Works perfect on Kimera 1.6(overclocked). Faster than what ppls are rating. Multi-touch would've been nice. Zoom level settings very poor with only 3 levels of which CLOSE is too big while any other far too small. Downloaded through market.
Hopefully multitouch will be introduced later as its currently the only real issue I have with it.
And maybe the ability to set as default browser.
I think I will stick with it for a while as its a very good and quick browser and the flash support is fantastic.
thats weird. when I search for skyfire no results show up?
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thats weird. when I search for skyfire no results show up?
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I couldn't find it either, but you can download it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=673187
starfarer said:
Works perfect on Kimera 1.6(overclocked). Faster than what ppls are rating. Multi-touch would've been nice. Zoom level settings very poor with only 3 levels of which CLOSE is too big while any other far too small. Downloaded through market.
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I have multi-touch on my 2.1 version
how do you have a 2.1 version?
macvalentine said:
how do you have a 2.1 version?
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Try a 2.1 ROM eg. Villain 5.3/5.4
Hi all anyone got any idea how to get sky player on the desire hd ive read that you can watch it straight from the browser but its asking me to install silverlight and that isn't supported, anyone got this to work yet? thanks .
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Hi all anyone got any idea how to get sky player on the desire hd ive read that you can watch it straight from the browser but its asking me to install silverlight and that isn't supported, anyone got this to work yet? thanks .
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Hi there
I work for Sky Technical Support and I know that you cannot watch Sky Player through any mobile browser at the moment (namely due to Silverlight only recognizing desktop browsers - yes it can even say no to Skyfire's desktop mode)
There is an android app in the works which should hopefully be made available after the new year however, as with everything in the works, no actual date has been confirmed. It shouldn't be too long a wait
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Hi there
I work for Sky Technical Support and I know that you cannot watch Sky Player through any mobile browser at the moment (namely due to Silverlight only recognizing desktop browsers - yes it can even say no to Skyfire's desktop mode)
There is an android app in the works which should hopefully be made available after the new year however, as with everything in the works, no actual date has been confirmed. It shouldn't be too long a wait
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will this be along the lines of the iphone app where you pay sky direct for the service, as the t mobile one at the mo is awfull picture quality , yet the iphone 4 one is amazing
It's hard to find much discussion about ICS and flash player. Basically, from what I've found, there is no hardware acceleration. For me, it's important that it function at least as well as Gingerbread allowed.
I had LPY flashed for a day, but didn't have time to test the following. LPY was silky smooth, and I was getting amazing battery life, but choppy flash video on some sites killed it for me. However, I am safely and successfully back on GB, LC1, Darky. Originally flashed back to stock-rootable GB through ODIN, rooted, then applied Darky in CWM..for anyone that cares. Rocking 240 density, LauncherEX, DialerEX, loving all the extra real-estate. Too bad NoteCore0.1 refused to allow density changes!
Has anyone had any improvement forcing HW acceleration?
How about 2D GPU Rendering in Dev Options?
Maxthon Browser for 10" Tab? (Transformer Prime forums indicated this particular release of this particular browser has some magic property that runs flash correctly)
Does anyone care enough? Work-arounds? Where would the central ICS Flash Player discussion be?
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It's hard to find much discussion about ICS and flash player. Basically, from what I've found, there is no hardware acceleration. For me, it's important that it function at least as well as Gingerbread allowed.
I had LPY flashed for a day, but didn't have time to test the following. LPY was silky smooth, and I was getting amazing battery life, but choppy flash video on some sites killed it for me. However, I am safely and successfully back on GB, LC1, Darky. Originally flashed back to stock-rootable GB through ODIN, rooted, then applied Darky in CWM..for anyone that cares. Rocking 240 density, LauncherEX, DialerEX, loving all the extra real-estate. Too bad NoteCore0.1 refused to allow density changes!
Has anyone had any improvement forcing HW acceleration?
How about 2D GPU Rendering in Dev Options?
Maxthon Browser for 10" Tab? (Transformer Prime forums indicated this particular release of this particular browser has some magic property that runs flash correctly)
Does anyone care enough? Work-arounds? Where would the central ICS Flash Player discussion be?
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same problem here, and there are a lot of comments in the market regarding this! also the 2d hardware acceleration does not change this "flash-desaster"...
Out of interest why do you need flash so bad? Its support sucks because its a dieing platform you can do everything in html5 that flash can do and ota far lead resource hungry making it much better for mobile devices
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Out of interest why do you need flash so bad? Its support sucks because its a dieing platform you can do everything in html5 that flash can do and ota far lead resource hungry making it much better for mobile devices
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First of all, you simply cannot do everything in HTML5 that you can do in Flash! Whilst the functionality gap is getting smaller all the time, it isn't currently zero.
Secondly, there are several very popular websites across the globe that still rely on Flash. For example, BBC iPlayer, which is used extensively in the UK, uses Flash to deliver content.
Flash may well be dying, but it isn't dead yet!
Regards,
Dave
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Out of interest why do you need flash so bad? Its support sucks because its a dieing platform you can do everything in html5 that flash can do and ota far lead resource hungry making it much better for mobile devices
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Many sites with funny videos are using flash video players. And almost all other news portals are using flash videos too. Social network (vk.com) uses it too. This is a very common web component.
By the way, I noticed that there 2 versions of adobe flash. YBLEGAL1605, what is your adobe flash version?
11.1.111.9 - is for Android 2.3.x and Android 3.x.x
11.1.115.8 - is for Android 4.x.x
foxmeister said:
First of all, you simply cannot do everything in HTML5 that you can do in Flash! Whilst the functionality gap is getting smaller all the time, it isn't currently zero.
Secondly, there are several very popular websites across the globe that still rely on Flash. For example, BBC iPlayer, which is used extensively in the UK, uses Flash to deliver content.
Flash may well be dying, but it isn't dead yet!
Regards,
Dave
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Many sites with funny videos are using flash video players. And almost all other news portals are using flash videos too. Social network (vk.com) uses it too. This is a very common web component.
By the way, I noticed that there 2 versions of adobe flash. YBLEGAL1605, what is your adobe flash version?
11.1.111.9 - is for Android 2.3.x and Android 3.x.x
11.1.115.8 - is for Android 4.x.x
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In both cases I would recommend using skyfire web browser as it compresses flash video to a more support format https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skyfire.browser
And from what I know about the only things html5 cant do is interact with a web cam and dosnt have DRM support
I don't know where I've read but Samsung or android // Google wants to move on to html5 (aka to drop flash support), like Apple did a long time ago.
Yes, html5 is better from resorce-consuming point of view, but still a lot of websites use flash.
We only hope that more websites will move to html5-based animations in future.
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Especially Korean drama streaming sites.
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anonymous572 said:
Many sites with funny videos are using flash video players. And almost all other news portals are using flash videos too. Social network (vk.com) uses it too. This is a very common web component.
By the way, I noticed that there 2 versions of adobe flash. YBLEGAL1605, what is your adobe flash version?
11.1.111.9 - is for Android 2.3.x and Android 3.x.x
11.1.115.8 - is for Android 4.x.x
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Yes, I want it for the random site I'm bound to come across.
How lame is it when you say you have the latest technology, then when a friend or family asks you to check out some website on it, then it doesn't work, because it doesn't support flash, a technology so old....well, ya it's old! My old windows mobile phone played some of theses ICS problem sites just fine! That's not cool.
I'm back on GB, 11.1.111.9. I'm pretty sure when I was on LPY, it was version 11.1.115.8. I know I uninstalled it, and re-installed it from the market. This fixed the original blue box missing plugin scenario, but now we have the chop. Also, a few articles saying Adobe is stealthy releasing 11.2 seems to be a lie because I can't find any apk's OR market review with 11.2.
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In both cases I would recommend using skyfire web browser as it compresses flash video to a more support format https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skyfire.browser
And from what I know about the only things html5 cant do is interact with a web cam and dosnt have DRM support
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Nice! I didn't think of skyfire but actually that's what it took to make my WM phone play back in the day. Is been a while.
As soon as this ICS bug is squashed, I will probably flash it and give skyfire a go. For the most part I can live without some video, but it looks really tacky when you want to show it off if it's broken.
Here is a read:
http://thenextweb.com/dd/2012/05/22...nds-of-times-slower-on-mobile-devices-report/
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In both cases I would recommend using skyfire web browser as it compresses flash video to a more support format https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skyfire.browser
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Personally, I don't think much of Skyfire as a browser, and its "Flash" video support is flakey at best in my experience - with iPlayer, I more often than not get a "media error".
Skyfire is a great solution if you don't have native Flash, but when you do it just doesn't cut it IMO.
I wish that the BBC hadn't used Flash for their Android iPlayer implementation, especially when they could've just tweaked the containers for their iOS streams to support both Android and iOS simultaneously. It certainly looks like a remarkably short sighted decision given that Adobe is dropping Flash support for mobile.
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Dave
Personally I'll be glad when Flash dies, for lots of reasons, but understand why it's a pain right now.
As for the BBC iPlayer comments; I've no problem at all on LPY with the app. Am I just not fussy enough?
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Personally, I don't think much of Skyfire as a browser, and its "Flash" video support is flakey at best in my experience - with iPlayer, I more often than not get a "media error".
Skyfire is a great solution if you don't have native Flash, but when you do it just doesn't cut it IMO.
I wish that the BBC hadn't used Flash for their Android iPlayer implementation, especially when they could've just tweaked the containers for their iOS streams to support both Android and iOS simultaneously. It certainly looks like a remarkably short sighted decision given that Adobe is dropping Flash support for mobile.
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skyfire suck balls
Well I doubt it will be to much longer until the iplayer has native html5 video (after all it already uses this for iOS) and as flash support gets killed for mobile by adobe other formats will take its place, I would say less and less sites are souly use flash, but of cause for years to come there will be random sites that still only uses it, its the case with all new formats.
Personally I have always found streaming and using flash within the browser to just be a bit of a pig and most of the time just wait till I can get to a computer
Literally just got my note today, and was just about to update to ICS but though I'd better check if there were any drawbacks before I plunged right in, and luckily enough I saw that flash has been dropped (Actually in a blog post about 10 reasons why ICS is better than gingerbread, it was casually dropped in whilst saying the new browser is better)
Soo... Am I right in thinking I have to decide whether I'd rather have flash and put up with cut down mobile versions of websites OR full websites but no flash?
I've spent happy years with an N900, and so I'm quite accustomed to the internet on my phone being the same as on my desktop...
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Literally just got my note today, and was just about to update to ICS but though I'd better check if there were any drawbacks before I plunged right in, and luckily enough I saw that flash has been dropped (Actually in a blog post about 10 reasons why ICS is better than gingerbread, it was casually dropped in whilst saying the new browser is better)
Soo... Am I right in thinking I have to decide whether I'd rather have flash and put up with cut down mobile versions of websites OR full websites but no flash?
I've spent happy years with an N900, and so I'm quite accustomed to the internet on my phone being the same as on my desktop...
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From my experience flash is not not unsupported it just is a bit pants on ICS. I recently debated with myself about this as I'm a fan of the Escapist website but their HTML5 media only comes with a paid subscription.
Running their site on Dolphin with a Desktop UI works okay until you try and maximise the video content. Then everything falls over and you have to begin again and just zoom in on the video as best you can.
This is okay I guess but a bit of a pain when I know their Flash stuff would work a lot better on GB.
I can't let go of Paranoid Android tho, it's just too sweet.
I'm on CM9 and have no problems with flash on ics+ browser.
Skyfire is a horrid browser, caused me nothing but issues trying to watch 'flash' videos or even goto everyday websites like facebook.
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Skyfire is a horrid browser, caused me nothing but issues trying to watch 'flash' videos or even goto everyday websites like facebook.
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Forget Skyfire. It used to work but nowadays it's useless. It does not play most of the videos I frequently come across.
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