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Hi all,
Im considering getting a Blueangle, the processor speed is 400MHz so im gussing its pretty fast? I currently have a Prophet and the specs of the phone look very similar.
Anyways I mainly use my Prophet for music and have a HBH-DS970. How well does the Blue Angle handle A2DP? Has anyone manage to get this headset working with this device?
Im not too worried about WM5 or WM6, which ever runs the fastest with a2dp.
Also can this device be overclocked? Does it give any RAM problems?
Thanks
Processor i fast enough to handle virtually all tasks - never needed to overclock (and yes, it's possible to reach 500MHz, and even 600MHz on some BAs). As it's possible to run WM5/WM6, if you take into account it has 128MB of RAM, this seems to be really nice device. But... Here we come to Bluetooth. A2DP and AVRCP work fine, but you have to remember about range, that is... VERY (and I really mean VEEEERY) limited in BA. In most cases if you have BA in your backpack, you can forget about listening to music. I used HP, creative and Plantronics Plusar A2DP headsets and all work fine, apart from the range. You cannot expect more than 1m of effective range in free air. If you keep your BA in a belt pouch (especially if you have a coat on you), expect a lot of cutting and broken connections.
This is the only device I know with such problems with range.
thanks for the info!
From a spec point of view this device seems excellent but the BT issues would be a major deal breaker for me
Ok my friend has brought his BA into work and its looks fantastic!
Im REALLY tempted to get one of these, at present my Prophet is really annoying me in terms of volume. The speak is just too low.
The keyboard on the BA seems really nice and the screen is fantastic!
Im going to upgrade his to WM6 and test the bluetooth range. If the device can be placed in a case on my belt and bluetooth stereo works then im really considering getting one of these. Has anyone tested this?
Just noticed it doesnt have a mini usb port on the bottom. Not sure how i feel about this at the mo
ceanth said:
Im going to upgrade his to WM6 and test the bluetooth range. If the device can be placed in a case on my belt and bluetooth stereo works then im really considering getting one of these. Has anyone tested this?
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The bluetooth is one of the weaknesses of the Angel. It's known to have range problems. Search the forums for examples of this to get a feel for it's limits.
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Just noticed it doesnt have a mini usb port on the bottom. Not sure how i feel about this at the mo
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Just wondering, why is this an issue? The hermes has a non-standard mini-usb port as well, same as the Angel.
ok ive got my friends BA working with a WM6 rom and noticed wifi issues and some stability issues
We are going to try WM5 roms but just wanted to know what the general opionion was on the stability of the device also how people felt about these wifi issues.
Stability for me would be the main priority over battery life (which people have been saying isnt too great)
Still not sure whether i should get one
ceanth said:
ok ive got my friends BA working with a WM6 rom and noticed wifi issues and some stability issues
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Can you give an example? I've found WM6 to be very stable on mine.
ceanth said:
We are going to try WM5 roms but just wanted to know what the general opionion was on the stability of the device also how people felt about these wifi issues.
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...and I found WM5 to not be as stable as WM6.
Which wifi 'issues' are you referring to? Aside from the lack of range (a known issue with the angel hardware), I've not had any issues with mine.
jakubd said:
Processor i fast enough to handle virtually all tasks - never needed to overclock (and yes, it's possible to reach 500MHz, and even 600MHz on some BAs). As it's possible to run WM5/WM6, if you take into account it has 128MB of RAM, this seems to be really nice device. But... Here we come to Bluetooth. A2DP and AVRCP work fine, but you have to remember about range, that is... VERY (and I really mean VEEEERY) limited in BA. In most cases if you have BA in your backpack, you can forget about listening to music. I used HP, creative and Plantronics Plusar A2DP headsets and all work fine, apart from the range. You cannot expect more than 1m of effective range in free air. If you keep your BA in a belt pouch (especially if you have a coat on you), expect a lot of cutting and broken connections.
This is the only device I know with such problems with range.
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about the range, i must say YEEEEES! if i wear a thick coat, put BA in inside pocket, then i have to connect the headset EVERY FIVE MINITES OR MORE FREQUENTLY!
Hello everybody!
I bought myself an Incredible S yesterday. Though to my surprise I'm having issues with the bluetooth quality with my stereo handsfree; Sony Ericsson MW600. Whenever I'm at the higher sound levels, every sound is accompanied with a clinging static which is VERY annoying. Now, I have used these stereo hansfrees with numerous other phones; Xperia X10, iPhone 4, Xperia Arc and.... HTC Legend. It worked flawlessly with all of those phones (yes, I've had quite a few phones the last 12 months). And since it worked so great with HTC Legend, one might wonder why it works worse on a phone released almost 12 months later (huge time difference).
I'm going to visit my shop that I bought the unit from. They have a demo unit of the incS. So I hope really badly my phone is DOA.
I had the problem in android 2.2 and now also in 2.3.
Now please, if anyone of you have the MW600 or if you wish to comment, then please do so! I appreciate all the help I can get in this issue. For your information HTC customer support didn't lift a finger to help me. This is all Incredible!
I'm using MW600 aswell and haven't experienced any issues with the sound quality.
It worked fine with Froyo and it is working fine with Gingerbread.
The only issue I have is that the SRS enhancement or presets don't work with the Bluetooth headset.
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Very interesting. I just visited my local shop and I tested my MW600 with another incredible S, DHD and Desire S. All of them had the issue. Nevertheless it was again perfect audio when I used the 3.5mm jack. The sound through the MW600 should be identical to the 3.5mm. But it was way of. You should also test your phone. Try listening to music with about 2/3 of sound level and then through the 3.5mm jack. There's a significant difference. Nevertheless I ditche my incS and chose an Xperia Arc. There's no issues with that unit.
blackhawkIV said:
Though to my surprise I'm having issues with the bluetooth quality with my stereo handsfree
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All phones with HTC Sense have a poor bluetooth stack implementation. HTC doesn't use the default Android Bluez. They use an old broadcom bluetooth stack.
I'm hoping at least one of these recent Incredible S roms can implement the Bluez bluetooth stack.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708685
Now that explains alot! But it wasn't like this with Legend, and I see people who complain about Desire which was released about the same time. Maybe you should exploit that somehow?
How it yet goes, I will keep my way out of HTC's path with Bluetooth until they fix it.
Is fm transmitting possible using our galaxy note? or can it be made possible by the help of devs? Please Help
not as far as i know. you need the actual fm trasmitter hardware to be built into the phone. only nokia seems to do that nowadays.
Souai said:
not as far as i know. you need the actual fm trasmitter hardware to be built into the phone. only nokia seems to do that nowadays.
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according to me when a phone has FM receiver it also habe a fm transmitter with it , coz when u receive a fm from a radio station , then is a small thing which sends a signal to them. this signals are use to count the no of users listening to the fm station. So this is possbile that Note also has a fm trasmitter. Actually a person expert in hardware can tell us the true story
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according to me when a phone has FM receiver it also habe a fm transmitter with it , coz when u receive a fm from a radio station , then is a small thing which sends a signal to them. this signals are use to count the no of users listening to the fm station.
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No, the radio station can't count their listeners, but the note does have a small transmitter that lets me see what you do in the bathroom. Stop doing that, it's gross.
It cannot be done ,i checked with the hardware integrations of the same. It needs a hardware mod.
http://geekaphone.com/compare/Samsung-GALAXY-Note-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S-II
Well why note won in music? Because of fm transmiter...
Or that is a lie?
tannduricic said:
http://geekaphone.com/compare/Samsung-GALAXY-Note-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S-II
Well why note won in music? Because of fm transmiter...
Or that is a lie?
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yes, its a lie. notice how thats the only website that says it has an fm transmitter? go onto any samsung website, the note doesnt have an fm transmitter
jinnn_1989 said:
according to me when a phone has FM receiver it also habe a fm transmitter with it , coz when u receive a fm from a radio station , then is a small thing which sends a signal to them. this signals are use to count the no of users listening to the fm station. So this is possbile that Note also has a fm trasmitter. Actually a person expert in hardware can tell us the true story
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I'll have some of what he is smoking! Smoke enough, I'm sure we will find the built in NSA tracker.
tannduricic said:
http://geekaphone.com/compare/Samsung-GALAXY-Note-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S-II
Well why note won in music? Because of fm transmiter...
Or that is a lie?
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Haha! That website also claims 34 days standby time!
Wish my battery lasted that long
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Don't recall the source, but I read somewhere that the Note actually has the required chipset for FM transmission, but the transmission part is disabled.
I really doubt it can be enabled, and if that happens I don't think it would be capable of high quality and above all enough range to be useful. Even Nokias suck on this regard!
Cheers!
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they really dropped the ball their on the galaxy note 2 , I almost bought an note then I noticed that at could not transmit FM like the galaxy s3 could :S
getting sound from the phone into my carputer is no problem , but doing the same in other cars that just have oem stereo systems is another question
There are dedicated fm transmitters you can buy. They are available all over the internet and are very cheap to buy.
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I have Galaxy Note 5 and I have an FM receiver
I've heard that when people disassembled this thing they found a WiFi chip in it so... if someone were to port aosp to this would I be able to use WiFi.
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I've heard that when people disassembled this thing they found a WiFi chip in it so... if someone were to port aosp to this would I be able to use WiFi.
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i don't think it was the chip, they found an antenna lead or something of the sort. they weren't able to verify if the controller was on the mb
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i don't think it was the chip, they found an antenna lead or something of the sort. they weren't able to verify if the controller was on the mb
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I would think the wifi chip is a given - it's inside the Snapdragon 400 SOC. Since the teardown identified an aerial I would have high hopes that wifi could be made to work.
it's not necessarily a given, the modem portion of the 400 is optional from what i understand, and the wifi radio is integrated into the LTE modem, so if one is removed the other is removed with it. the usb 2.0 and BT controllers however are part of the base soc design.
it's very likely the sd400 soc they used is a stripped down version since there is no need for a radio of any kind for android wear aside from BT, and they would want to keep the part spend as low as possible.
it could be in there though, although i would imagine with that running as well the battery would probably suffer even more
Hi All,
Im thinking of buying a new head unit for my BMW E90, are there any preferences over these brands? Im swaying towards the Eonon GA7165/GA8165 but i believe most of these units are all the same but branded differently?
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Right so after carefully considering everything for 2 years I finally bought one!
I've just purchased the Xtrons PE9890BIPL
https://xtrons.co.uk/bmw-3-series-android-8-0-pe9890bipl
It is on offer for just £239.99 which to me was a steal as second hand units (if you can find one) tend to sell for around £150+ because most people paid £300ish.
it has a beefy specced system of an Octa Core PX5 processor with 4GB RAM and a 32GB ROM running Android 8.0. This unit also has a big 9" screen at the expense of losing a DVD drive and some physical buttons (all of which can be used from your own steering wheel controls) but they offer the same spec with a smaller screen and contains the physical buttons if you'd prefer the physical buttons and DVD drive.
the newer head units running Android 9.0 aren't as good, currently offering a quad core PX35 processor (same x64 bit architecture but runs more efficient) and only 2GB RAM and 16GB ROM so it's a downgrade really.
Then of course we move onto the brilliant XDA forum for custom ROMS, and it just so happens they've already managed to get Android 9.0 onto these PX5 units
So I chose Xtrons because from what I've read most companies buy these units from the same supplier and brand them leaving other factors to be considered, for me xtrons is UK based so next day delivery, plus clearence prices, they also offered the beefier head unit, support seems okay (some chaps hasd ssues with steering wheel functions not working after locking and getting back into car, long story short they sent people new looms and sorted) and then on top of this XDA developers providing custom ROMS which can fix a lot of the common issues. I'll provide another update when it comes on Monday
at the moment
8-core-px5 - Dasaita > All because of the different (stand-alone BT and WiFi chips)
4-Core-px3 - IMHO the only differnce is the OS. 7.1 has no custom roms yet, so yo probably have a bloated OS
difference at both to consider: AMP chip TDA7388 or TDA7850, clear recomindation is the TDA7850 because ist has way more power and sounds clearer and more crisp
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/Car-android-GPS-For-BMW-E93-318LI-E92-325-E91-320LI-E90-328LI-autoradio-navigation-head/32808481136.html
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difference at both to consider: AMP chip TDA7388 or TDA7850, clear recomindation is the TDA7850 because ist has way more power and sounds clearer and more crisp
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Hey I'm new here.
Is the selection of AMP chip important ? Seems there's very few manufacturers using TDA7850.
The few that do use TDA7850 seem lots more expensive. Is this normal ?
Example http://smarty-trend.com/13-2-din-universal
zapedge said:
at the moment
8-core-px5 - Dasaita > All because of the different (stand-alone BT and WiFi chips)
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1) BT and Wifi are going to be on the *same* chip, so don't need to pluralize that.
2) The positioning of that particular RF chip (whether it be on the SoM or the host board) doesn't *technically* matter. The downside to being on the host board is typically that the reseller may have a bigger part in writing software that interfaces with it, and reseller written software is always a very bad thing.
3) Intel Sofia units also have the wifibt and GPS chips on the SoM.
Even with the wifibt on the SoM, the resellers *still* manage to mess it up, however, it may be somewhat easier to clean up in this case.
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bgroper said:
Hey I'm new here.
Is the selection of AMP chip important ? Seems there's very few manufacturers using TDA7850.
The few that do use TDA7850 seem lots more expensive. Is this normal ?
Example http://smarty-trend.com/13-2-din-universal
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I think it may have to do mainly with your needs and expectations.
Neither is going to satisfy anyone who self-identifies as an "audiophile".
I think the main differences are that the 7850 is slightly more powerful (4x50 vs 4x45 watt), and is ok with 2 ohm speakers where the 7388 is 4 ohm only.
http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resou...df/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00179160.pdf
http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resou...df/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00145702.pdf
luciusfox said:
1) BT and Wifi are going to be on the *same* chip, so don't need to pluralize that.
2) The positioning of that particular RF chip (whether it be on the SoM or the host board) doesn't *technically* matter. The downside to being on the host board is typically that the reseller may have a bigger part in writing software that interfaces with it, and reseller written software is always a very bad thing.
3) Intel Sofia units also have the wifibt and GPS chips on the SoM.
Even with the wifibt on the SoM, the resellers *still* manage to mess it up, however, it may be somewhat easier to clean up in this case.
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I think it may have to do mainly with your needs and expectations.
Neither is going to satisfy anyone who self-identifies as an "audiophile".
I think the main differences are that the 7850 is slightly more powerful (4x50 vs 4x45 watt), and is ok with 2 ohm speakers where the 7388 is 4 ohm only.
http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resou...df/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00179160.pdf
http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resou...df/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00145702.pdf
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Which make and model has the 7850 chip? I've just had a look at the Eonons, Xtrons and Joying units for the E90 and the most I have found is 4x48w and all the rest are the same 4x45w.
Not sure which chip mine got but I do have the Octacore GA7165A and I'm really happy with it just a few setup things I need to figure out. I also installed Viper4Android which improves the sound greatly only issue I'm facing is it does not apply to the MTC radio.
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Not sure which chip mine got but I do have the Octacore GA7165A and I'm really happy with it just a few setup things I need to figure out. I also installed Viper4Android which improves the sound greatly only issue I'm facing is it does not apply to the MTC radio.
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Probably because the radio analog output never touches the CPU. It goes RADIO --> BD37xxx --> amplifier --> speakers.
The BD37xxx is an audio processor/mixer. Bunch of analog inputs, bunch of analog outputs, i2c control from either the MCU or SoC depending in which vendor it is.
nils_92 said:
Not sure which chip mine got but I do have the Octacore GA7165A and I'm really happy with it just a few setup things I need to figure out. I also installed Viper4Android which improves the sound greatly only issue I'm facing is it does not apply to the MTC radio.
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Hi mate,
Good to hear that Viper4Android works on the GA7165A model, so you've not experienced any other issues? On a YouTube video I've read various things such as Audio quality being poor through Spotify which is one of the main things I'd want, and also phone calls sounding muffled, though I assume that's probably down to the positioning of the Mic itself. What sound system do you have as well mate, is it stock or upgraded?
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Probably because the radio analog output never touches the CPU. It goes RADIO --> BD37xxx --> amplifier --> speakers.
The BD37xxx is an audio processor/mixer. Bunch of analog inputs, bunch of analog outputs, i2c control from either the MCU or SoC depending in which vendor it is.
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Very surprised you know information as detailed as that Knowing all that you do, what would you advise to purchase?
mrsweet1991 said:
Hi mate,
Good to hear that Viper4Android works on the GA7165A model, so you've not experienced any other issues? On a YouTube video I've read various things such as Audio quality being poor through Spotify which is one of the main things I'd want, and also phone calls sounding muffled, though I assume that's probably down to the positioning of the Mic itself. What sound system do you have as well mate, is it stock or upgraded?
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I’ve got the stock sound system of a 2006 E91 I have installed Spotify but I haven’t used it yet still waiting for my mifi device but I’ll give it a shot maybe tomorrow and let you know.
In terms of Bluetooth / phone Bluetooth music is very good and also works through Viper4Android for the phone function itself I’ve only used the internal mic so far and that is a bit quiet but I’ll install the external mic later in the hope that it will improve the volume issue.
One thing I did have was V4A wouldn’t start automatically until I installed it as a system app now or does that just fine and from a sound quality perspective it is not worse than the default Prof. Head unit if anything I would say better since I can set a more granular sound set-up ( I like deep bass when the radio is not too loud just like the loudness feature on other stereos).
Not sure where you live if anywhere near southwest London feel free to pm me and we can meet for a coffee and you can have a look at it
@mrsweet1991 Have not yet tinkered with the mic but I did try Spotify for you and can report it works just fine I left the Spotify EQ off and instead use V4A and the sound quality is as good as an MP3 on the USB.
Hope that helps.
Have now installed the external mic however I had to disconnect the internal mic to get good quality I might go ahead and solder the external mic onto the internal port so I can use that for OK Google etc as well but with external mic and internal disconnected the quality is good.
How can i root the ga8165 and install xposed framework?
Another thoroughly derailed / hijacked thread
mrsweet1991 said:
Hi All,
Im thinking of buying a new head unit for my BMW E90, are there any preferences over these brands? Im swaying towards the Eonon GA7165/GA8165 but i believe most of these units are all the same but branded differently?
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I recently purchased this unit (GA7165A)and installed it.
If you purchased this unit how do you like it so far?
By the way I have a L7 AMP (fiber) and had to do a bit of research to figure out a few functional work around.
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Have now installed the external mic however I had to disconnect the internal mic to get good quality I might go ahead and solder the external mic onto the internal port so I can use that for OK Google etc as well but with external mic and internal disconnected the quality is good.
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Hi Mate,
Been such a long time since I've been on here, I just wanted to say a big thanks for the information it's good to know. I'm hoping one day I might get a break from fixing things on the car and actually get to stick an eonon unit in! Last time I here the 7165a was the best out and now there's a 8165a lol
mallen462 said:
I recently purchased this unit (GA7165A)and installed it.
If you purchased this unit how do you like it so far?
By the way I have a L7 AMP (fiber) and had to do a bit of research to figure out a few functional work around.
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Hi mate, I've not had a chance to buy one yet.. I seem to end up fixing the bloody car all the time haha. Walked in for an MOT and come out with a failure for a snapped rear spring and a couple of other minor things.. Starting to get back on track now though, so I take it you have the logic 7 system? Mines just the basic system with underseat subs so should be easier to setup but less rewarding on the sound quality side haha.
Also interested in buying a unit for my E90, just not sure how to pick a unit and know that im getting one of the more reliable manufacturers with stable software? Anyone have experience with the Eonon 8165A? seems like the best deal..
Xtrons
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Can any GA8615a owners vouch for the sound quality? Is it any worse than the stock HU?