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Good and bad news about this. The radio works, with headphones that have an FM antenna! Yay!
But
The reception is bad...
and I mean, BAD. Cuts in and out of local stations that I always get 100% signal from a car or any other radio.
Mine works great and I'm 50 miles north of Atlanta.
TwistedTJ said:
Mine works great and I'm 50 miles north of Atlanta.
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You also don't have an AT&T Touch Pro...
Hmmm, the phone obviously recognises the headset is plugged in, but do you defiinitely have the right one?
Mine only works properly with the HTC S300 headset (Diamond and Raphael standard ones). When I tried it with my old Kaiser/Hermes headset, I only got faint radio, and a lot of static...
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Hmmm, the phone obviously recognises the headset is plugged in, but do you defiinitely have the right one?
Mine only works properly with the HTC S300 headset (Diamond and Raphael standard ones). When I tried it with my old Kaiser/Hermes headset, I only got faint radio, and a lot of static...
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Not sure if it's the identical set that came in the box, but I bought it from expansys and it's specifically noted to be for the HTC Touch Pro and include an FM radio antenna... I don't know beyond that.
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You also don't have an AT&T Touch Pro...
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No but I do have an HTC Touch Pro and I would think the FM radio would be the same as yours.
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No but I do have an HTC Touch Pro and I would think the FM radio would be the same as yours.
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Unfortunately, Black's AT&T Touch Pro didn't come with any radio software installed, or a headset, so he's starting from scratch...
I don't think anyone is selling the official Diamond/Pro headset yet, but I would assume that any HTC headset with an antenna should work, so I'm at a bit of a loss, as the software seems to be working and picking up some sort of signal.
Perhaps there actually is an antenna connection between the receiver and the headset that is inside the HTC Touch Pro, but was left out of the AT&T version?
This is likely wishful thinking, but I am thinking that the fact that the AT&T hardware contains the FM receiver is further evidence that the hardware is identical to the HTC standard issue units and, inferentially, that the Touch Pro's 3G radio will be identical as well.
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This is likely wishful thinking, but I am thinking that the fact that the AT&T hardware contains the FM receiver is further evidence that the hardware is identical to the HTC standard issue units and, inferentially, that the Touch Pro's 3G radio will be identical as well.
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Haha, identical?
1) Different model names
2) No front camera
3) Different keyboard
4) Push to talk button
It's just wishful thinking. We're all assuming/hoping the UMTS radios will all be there, but don't say the radio working is any hint of that. ;-)
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This is likely wishful thinking, but I am thinking that the fact that the AT&T hardware contains the FM receiver is further evidence that the hardware is identical to the HTC standard issue units and, inferentially, that the Touch Pro's 3G radio will be identical as well.
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Even if the hardware is identical and he is using the Radio software designed for Europe/Asia, then the software might be designed to pick up the even numbered bands (102.2, 99.8 etc). The radio stations in North America use odd numbered frequencies (102.1, 99.1 etc). Hence the terrible quality. Just a possibility.
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Even if the hardware is identical and he is using the Radio software designed for Europe/Asia, then the software might be designed to pick up the even numbered bands (102.2, 99.8 etc). The radio stations in North America use odd numbered frequencies (102.1, 99.1 etc). Hence the terrible quality. Just a possibility.
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Well, the other guy here (ATL area or wherever) said he gets fine reception, and that's with a european touch pro... So I don't know why it would be different for mine.
Might be because it's a different headset, who knows. Maybe someday I'll throw another $30 towards the ones that came with the phone.
Black93300ZX said:
Haha, identical?
1) Different model names
2) No front camera
3) Different keyboard
4) Push to talk button
It's just wishful thinking. We're all assuming/hoping the UMTS radios will all be there, but don't say the radio working is any hint of that. ;-)
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All of these are peripherals. Sorry if I was not precise enough in my post, but there has been much speculation on the boards by a lot of very credible folks that the internal radios and chipsets on these units are identical.
I was going to say something smart about your attitude but I won't.
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All of these are peripherals. Sorry if I was not precise enough in my post, but there has been much speculation on the boards by a lot of very credible folks that the internal radios and chipsets on these units are identical.
I was going to say something smart about your attitude but I won't.
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Well I appreciate you not saying anything smart, that'd be a tragedy. As for the speculation of hardware, I'm fully aware of what's been questioned. All I'm saying is that the FM radio has as much to do with the UMTS radios as the PTT button and the keyboard, we're pretty sure the UMTS radios are the same but I don't think this should help that argument.
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Well I appreciate you not saying anything smart, that'd be a tragedy. As for the speculation of hardware, I'm fully aware of what's been questioned. All I'm saying is that the FM radio has as much to do with the UMTS radios as the PTT button and the keyboard, we're pretty sure the UMTS radios are the same but I don't think this should help that argument.
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Hmmm, fm radio -- internal component, keyboard and PTT buttons -- peripheral and external. I am guessing logic is not your strong suit? Sorry for the tragedy.
By the way, if "we're pretty sure the UMTS radios are the same" (and who is "we"?) then why the smart-alek comment in the first place? Never mind; don't answer that. I think from the other threads on the forum it is pretty clear why.
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"we're pretty sure the UMTS radios are the same"
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Sorry, by "we" I was referring to everyone I've spoken with from the forum who's done research regarding the subject. I spoke with one person who told me he saw a Q&A session with HTC's CEO regarding the Diamond, and something was said to the effect of "the US radio and MicroSD slot had to be removed to make it as small as it is..."
That would be pretty valid information towards saying the US radio should be present in the European Touch Pro.... The fact that I can listen to music on it, to me, isn't. But honestly I don't want to start anything, I'm on thin ice with the mods now as it is. I apologize for any rash comments and let's just be friends.
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Hmmm, fm radio -- internal component, keyboard and PTT buttons -- peripheral and external. I am guessing logic is not your strong suit? Sorry for the tragedy.
By the way, if "we're pretty sure the UMTS radios are the same" (and who is "we"?) then why the smart-alek comment in the first place? Never mind; don't answer that. I think from the other threads on the forum it is pretty clear why.
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Last time i checked the hardware for FM radio, and for cellular signal were not the same. If it were then why would you need the headphones in order to receive a signal, think about it. I do think it's far more likely that they cripple the abilities through software than by stripping out the hardware functions. If the test unit that Black has is able to start working with a simple cab addition then it is likely that scenario will continue with the official models.
I also will say that there is no need for the snarky attitude so many users seem to have here. It is not necessary to mock someone simply because they disagree with you. No matter how many time it gets said it seems that nobody listens...but here goes again "treat other members with respect" always!
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But honestly I don't want to start anything, I'm on thin ice with the mods now as it is. I apologize for any rash comments and let's just be friends.
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Good cause then we'd have to find someone else with an AT&T touch pro to pester with questions.
"If it were then why would you need the headphones in order to receive a signal"
Just for information - On all phones that have a radio, the wired headphones are always needed for the aerial. This is becuase the antenna in the device is not capable of receiving FM transmissions due to the wavelength of the signal. FM at approx 100MHz has a much larger wavelength thant the GSM signal (900 - 2100Mhz) and hence requires the larger aerial.
Black93300ZX said:
Well, the other guy here (ATL area or wherever) said he gets fine reception, and that's with a european touch pro... So I don't know why it would be different for mine.
Might be because it's a different headset, who knows. Maybe someday I'll throw another $30 towards the ones that came with the phone.
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Have you tried to tune into different stations? When you do scan for stations, does it let you scan the odd numbered ones? Can you manually enter the frequency for a specific radio station? Sorry, I dont have a Touch Pro or a Diamond myself so I cant do these tests.
This is probably a stupid question, but if the wired headphones are used as the antenna, does that mean that Bluetooth headphones can't be used to listen to the radio? There was a review on pocketnow that suggested that wireless headphones could be used (though I wonder if there's some specific HTC set they're referring to). I'm just curious.
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"If it were then why would you need the headphones in order to receive a signal"
Just for information - On all phones that have a radio, the wired headphones are always needed for the aerial. This is becuase the antenna in the device is not capable of receiving FM transmissions due to the wavelength of the signal. FM at approx 100MHz has a much larger wavelength thant the GSM signal (900 - 2100Mhz) and hence requires the larger aerial.
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That was my point actually, because the person i was replying to was insistent that the cell radio had something to do with the FM Radio, which they really don't. sorry if that was unclear.
According to androidtablets.net not only does the the nook color have a bluetooth chip but also a fm radio chip but with stock os you cant use it of course. Does this mean that with cm7 you can also access the fm radio ability like it allows you with bluetooth? If anyone knows please post below.
No, the FM chipset is not connected to any sort of antenna therefore it does not work, regardless of if your running stock or CM.
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No, the FM chipset is not connected to any sort of antenna therefore it does not work, regardless of if your running stock or CM.
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Ok but could it be possible to add an wire antenna? Or could you add one like that of an android phone as someone did with an htcs speaker and added it to the nook or is it impossible?
Some phones use headphones as the antenna. I wondered this about the nook, but never cared to find out.
Good Question
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Ok but could it be possible to add an wire antenna? Or could you add one like that of an android phone as someone did with an htcs speaker and added it to the nook or is it impossible?
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I have wondered about this myself. I bought and learned how to root my Droid 4 for the sole purpose of having the FM radio. I am working on getting my Nook Color to run CM7, and found your post when I searched. I know on my D4 I needed to have it rooted and installed Spirit FM, it works well with the headphones attached. I also found a way to make an antenna using a Radio Shack plug and the antenna off an old cordless phone handset, It works surprisingly well! I don't see why it wouldn't work for the NC, IF it has the fm chip, and IF we can access it. I don't know if Spirit FM has been tested with it or not, but it's worth looking into.
KrellaKrentoshi said:
I have wondered about this myself. I bought and learned how to root my Droid 4 for the sole purpose of having the FM radio. I am working on getting my Nook Color to run CM7, and found your post when I searched. I know on my D4 I needed to have it rooted and installed Spirit FM, it works well with the headphones attached. I also found a way to make an antenna using a Radio Shack plug and the antenna off an old cordless phone handset, It works surprisingly well! I don't see why it wouldn't work for the NC, IF it has the fm chip, and IF we can access it. I don't know if Spirit FM has been tested with it or not, but it's worth looking into.
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This has been addressed many times, in this forum and others. To my knowledge no one has gotten anything other than static from any app (Spirit included) with any headphones at any time. I'd guess that there is no connection between the radio chip and the headphone socket, for antenna functionality.
I haven't pursued this in a while though, so there could be newer info out there.
Hmmm
tonestertm said:
This has been addressed many times, in this forum and others. To my knowledge no one has gotten anything other than static from any app (Spirit included) with any headphones at any time. I'd guess that there is no connection between the radio chip and the headphone socket, for antenna functionality.
I haven't pursued this in a while though, so there could be newer info out there.
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Good to know. I will do a little searching in the morning and post any info I may find. Do you know if any guts tinkering has occured to make that connection? I am hoping for a simple, easy solution, like modifying an atrix lapdock to work for a Droid phone
KrellaKrentoshi said:
Good to know. I will do a little searching in the morning and post any info I may find. Do you know if any guts tinkering has occured to make that connection? I am hoping for a simple, easy solution, like modifying an atrix lapdock to work for a Droid phone
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Been doing some digging since I last posted, and the news, I'm afraid, is not promising.
I learned that the FM receive and transmit (!) antenna functions of the WL1271 chip are on different pins than the WLAN/Bluetooth antenna pins.
In addition, there are dedicated FM Audio Out L/R pins which I would suspect are not provided for on the Nook board/module. It's not clear to me if these are the only outlet for any FM decoded by the chip, though.
These, along with the fact that TI pretty much abandoned the FM feature of this chip in the OMAP implementation, (by their own admission) make the FM radio function for us... challenging.
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Been doing some digging since I last posted, and the news, I'm afraid, is not promising.
I learned that the FM receive and transmit (!) antenna functions of the WL1271 chip are on different pins than the WLAN/Bluetooth antenna pins.
In addition, there are dedicated FM Audio Out L/R pins which I would suspect are not provided for on the Nook board/module. It's not clear to me if these are the only outlet for any FM decoded by the chip, though.
These, along with the fact that TI pretty much abandoned the FM feature of this chip in the OMAP implementation, (by their own admission) make the FM radio function for us... challenging.
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Challenging isn't the same as impossible, and it must surely be easier than trying to get CM7 installed to SD card for my NC. I'm beyond stuck on that one, been trying off an on for a year. It seems to me that if the problem lies in the hardware, we should be able to correct that. BTW, did I see correctly, there may be FM TRANSMIT capabilities?! That would rock!! I would be blissfully happy just getting FM recieve to work. If the pins aren't provided for on the NC board, what would be a possible way to correct that?
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Challenging isn't the same as impossible,
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True.
and it must surely be easier than trying to get CM7 installed to SD card for my NC.
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I had difficulty with that the first time, too. I can probably help, but either in PM or another thread; been running SD cards for about as long as you've been trying.
It seems to me that if the problem lies in the hardware, we should be able to correct that. BTW, did I see correctly, there may be FM TRANSMIT capabilities?! ...
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Unfortunately, even though there are some great resources around (see the Novaports sticky above, for one) there's just not enough solid info yet to discover whether there's access to the necessary pin. The whole chip is about 1/4 inch square, containing about 115 contact sites in what's called a ball grid array, or BGA, all on the bottom surface of that tiny, "wahfer-thin" speck. This is married to a daughtercard which brings the necessary contacts out to the real world and has some more circuitry (most notably the chip which handles the wireless/bluetooth antenna switching). There's no way to tell from the pictures I've found whether they designed any access to the FM receive pin for the outside world. And I'd bet good solid money that there's no access to the FM transmit pins (separate Antenna and Audio L/R).
So, not impossible, but the real question is, how much would you be willing to spend to re-engineer a new daughtercard to gain access to these things (if, in fact, they're not accessible)? It would undoubtedly be more than the price of a brand new tablet which already contains all these things and more.
If they did bring the RX pin out on the daughtercard, then it should be possible to do some microsoldering and a lot of what I've just said is moot. But without disassembling one I have no way of knowing. If this were the case, then Spirit would likely be the way to go, as I ran across indications that Mike was doing some serious digging into this issue last year. There's also an infinitesimal ray of hope for drivers from a ROM that somebody put together for one of the Droids, which uses the same chip, that apparently has FM working.
I suppose one moderately simple test would be to load up Spirit, and bring a moderately powerful FM transmitter right up to the base end of the Nook, hoping for some leakage through all the shielding, and see if a signal can be picked up. Unfortunately, unless the result were positive, we'd be no further than we already are.
Oh. Ok
tonestertm said:
True.
I had difficulty with that the first time, too. I can probably help, but either in PM or another thread; been running SD cards for about as long as you've been trying.
Unfortunately, even though there are some great resources around (see the Novaports sticky above, for one) there's just not enough solid info yet to discover whether there's access to the necessary pin. The whole chip is about 1/4 inch square, containing about 115 contact sites in what's called a ball grid array, or BGA, all on the bottom surface of that tiny, "wahfer-thin" speck. This is married to a daughtercard which brings the necessary contacts out to the real world and has some more circuitry (most notably the chip which handles the wireless/bluetooth antenna switching). There's no way to tell from the pictures I've found whether they designed any access to the FM receive pin for the outside world. And I'd bet good solid money that there's no access to the FM transmit pins (separate Antenna and Audio L/R).
So, not impossible, but the real question is, how much would you be willing to spend to re-engineer a new daughtercard to gain access to these things (if, in fact, they're not accessible)? It would undoubtedly be more than the price of a brand new tablet which already contains all these things and more.
If they did bring the RX pin out on the daughtercard, then it should be possible to do some microsoldering and a lot of what I've just said is moot. But without disassembling one I have no way of knowing. If this were the case, then Spirit would likely be the way to go, as I ran across indications that Mike was doing some serious digging into this issue last year. There's also an infinitesimal ray of hope for drivers from a ROM that somebody put together for one of the Droids, which uses the same chip, that apparently has FM working.
I suppose one moderately simple test would be to load up Spirit, and bring a moderately powerful FM transmitter right up to the base end of the Nook, hoping for some leakage through all the shielding, and see if a signal can be picked up. Unfortunately, unless the result were positive, we'd be no further than we already are.
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So I guess the best thing I can do for the moment is to get CM7 to boot and try Spirit on it. I can do that, and I have a transmitter that might work too. I will post the results.
KrellaKrentoshi said:
Challenging isn't the same as impossible, and it must surely be easier than trying to get CM7 installed to SD card for my NC. I'm beyond stuck on that one, been trying off an on for a year. It seems to me that if the problem lies in the hardware, we should be able to correct that.
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Really?
have you tried this post?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
because that's been around for quite some time...and it is rather easy...
and it's been around for well over a year....
just sayin...
yep
I have tried it, and 2 others, and im stuck.
KrellaKrentoshi said:
I have tried it, and 2 others, and im stuck.
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okay...it's pretty simple...but i'll bite....where are you stuck? what exactly about the process is messing you up...
you get the CM7 image, burn it to your SD card using the program provided...insert it into the nook and press the power button...
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okay...it's pretty simple...but i'll bite....where are you stuck? what exactly about the process is messing you up...
you get the CM7 image, burn it to your SD card using the program provided...insert it into the nook and press the power button...
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..........and watch the little blue android on the skateboard for the next 20 mins until i shut it off. It wont get past the blue dude's splashscreen. I'm working on it on another thread and PM. In the meantime, do ya think you could run the little experiment mentioned a few posts back please?
I made some progress today!!
tonestertm said:
True.
I had difficulty with that the first time, too. I can probably help, but either in PM or another thread; been running SD cards for about as long as you've been trying.
Unfortunately, even though there are some great resources around (see the Novaports sticky above, for one) there's just not enough solid info yet to discover whether there's access to the necessary pin. The whole chip is about 1/4 inch square, containing about 115 contact sites in what's called a ball grid array, or BGA, all on the bottom surface of that tiny, "wahfer-thin" speck. This is married to a daughtercard which brings the necessary contacts out to the real world and has some more circuitry (most notably the chip which handles the wireless/bluetooth antenna switching). There's no way to tell from the pictures I've found whether they designed any access to the FM receive pin for the outside world. And I'd bet good solid money that there's no access to the FM transmit pins (separate Antenna and Audio L/R).
So, not impossible, but the real question is, how much would you be willing to spend to re-engineer a new daughtercard to gain access to these things (if, in fact, they're not accessible)? It would undoubtedly be more than the price of a brand new tablet which already contains all these things and more.
If they did bring the RX pin out on the daughtercard, then it should be possible to do some microsoldering and a lot of what I've just said is moot. But without disassembling one I have no way of knowing. If this were the case, then Spirit would likely be the way to go, as I ran across indications that Mike was doing some serious digging into this issue last year. There's also an infinitesimal ray of hope for drivers from a ROM that somebody put together for one of the Droids, which uses the same chip, that apparently has FM working.
I suppose one moderately simple test would be to load up Spirit, and bring a moderately powerful FM transmitter right up to the base end of the Nook, hoping for some leakage through all the shielding, and see if a signal can be picked up. Unfortunately, unless the result were positive, we'd be no further than we already are.
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I got my NC running CM 7.2.0. Turns out I needed to rename the ROM and also something was bad on my SD card. I have been happily exploring CM7 and getting my google apps on my NC for 2 hours now. Among the apps I downloaded is Spirit FM, the free version for testing. It loads well, I plugged in headphones and an antenna and can't get a signal, not even static. I will look for my transmitter tonight/tomorow and see what happens then. Thanks for all the encouragement and support on the CM7 thing yall!
Yay!
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I got my NC running CM 7.2.0. Turns out I needed to rename the ROM and also something was bad on my SD card. I have been happily exploring CM7 and getting my google apps on my NC for 2 hours now. Among the apps I downloaded is Spirit FM, the free version for testing. It loads well, I plugged in headphones and an antenna and can't get a signal, not even static. I will look for my transmitter tonight/tomorow and see what happens then. Thanks for all the encouragement and support on the CM7 thing yall!
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Looking forward to your results. And, Enjoy!
I did the test.....
tonestertm said:
True.
I had difficulty with that the first time, too. I can probably help, but either in PM or another thread; been running SD cards for about as long as you've been trying.
Unfortunately, even though there are some great resources around (see the Novaports sticky above, for one) there's just not enough solid info yet to discover whether there's access to the necessary pin. The whole chip is about 1/4 inch square, containing about 115 contact sites in what's called a ball grid array, or BGA, all on the bottom surface of that tiny, "wahfer-thin" speck. This is married to a daughtercard which brings the necessary contacts out to the real world and has some more circuitry (most notably the chip which handles the wireless/bluetooth antenna switching). There's no way to tell from the pictures I've found whether they designed any access to the FM receive pin for the outside world. And I'd bet good solid money that there's no access to the FM transmit pins (separate Antenna and Audio L/R).
So, not impossible, but the real question is, how much would you be willing to spend to re-engineer a new daughtercard to gain access to these things (if, in fact, they're not accessible)? It would undoubtedly be more than the price of a brand new tablet which already contains all these things and more.
If they did bring the RX pin out on the daughtercard, then it should be possible to do some microsoldering and a lot of what I've just said is moot. But without disassembling one I have no way of knowing. If this were the case, then Spirit would likely be the way to go, as I ran across indications that Mike was doing some serious digging into this issue last year. There's also an infinitesimal ray of hope for drivers from a ROM that somebody put together for one of the Droids, which uses the same chip, that apparently has FM working.
I suppose one moderately simple test would be to load up Spirit, and bring a moderately powerful FM transmitter right up to the base end of the Nook, hoping for some leakage through all the shielding, and see if a signal can be picked up. Unfortunately, unless the result were positive, we'd be no further than we already are.
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Houston, we have a problem. I have a stock nook running cm7 on sd card. Spirit FM Free with superuser permissions granted couldn't pick up the transmitter. :crying: I even put the transmitter right up against the nook and didn't hear anything, so it's not looking very good. I know on my droid 4 I had to have it rooted in order for the FM to work, I wonder if that is the case here? Anyone got a rooted nook to try this experiment out on? Once my warrenty is up I will try "nooting" and see if FM works then. If it is the daughter card, I am at a loss. Anyone got an idea about what we can do next? tonestertm, I can't find your Novoports sticky. Can you repost the link please?:good:
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tonestertm, I can't find your Novoports sticky. Can you repost the link please?:good:
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No need for a link, the Novaports thread is the third one down from the top of this forum.
I've looked for a ability to stream music from the G to my old radio in my car. I've also heard that it's got a Fm chip, so I did a little bit of research and stumbled across this thread. Maybe someone with a bigger knowledge can take a look at this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092719
Thanks in advance,
RS
It will be good if our phone has FM transmitter chip
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Well, the intent of the FM chip surely is to receive FM radio, not to transmit it. Even if it has one of those Broadcom chips mentioned in that thread, it it very likely that it needs additional hardware soldered onto the board (i.e. connected to the chip) to allow for transmitting, which is highly unlikely to be present with such a competitively priced phone (they will try to cut any cost, no matter how small). The last point it that all FM-capable phones I know of use the headphones as an antenna. This means they won't work at all if those aren't plugged in, and actively pumping power into them for transmission is likely either not gonna work or even damage them.
So in short: don't hold your breath, unlikely to ever happen...
Thank you for your responses
Well then I have to stick with my beautiful 3,5 to cassette adapter
I called T-Mobile and had them look into the FM chip in the nexus 6. They told me that the nexus 6 does have the FM chip but they will not active it. Does anyone have a patch that actives the chip? This is the website that made me aware that this phone can play FM stations.
http://freeradioonmyphone.org/
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Wow, that would be awesome. I'd love to listen to baseball games at work.
Links to the FCC reports for the N6 are here and here. There is no mention of an FM radio. You can also see the iFixIt teardown here. They also did not mention an FM radio.
As much as I would like there to be an FM radio in the N6, I think this is more likely a case where the CSM you spoke with was mistaken or the information available to the CSM is incorrect.
They called me back after researching it. They started off by telling me no it did not have it. After they researched they said yes it does. They also told me other providers will active it but not T-Mobile
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That might be partly true. Many chipsets these days are multipurpose. I'll use my old Nook Color as an example, because it had a WiFi chipset that did, in fact, include a Bluetooth transceiver. The device's hardware, however, had zero provisions for it. Developers figured out how to turn it on, but without the supporting hardware, Bluetooth range was less than 32 inches, nevermind 32 feet.
I'll wager if it's true, it's the same case with the N6. It very well may have a chip capable of receiving FM radio. That does not, by any means, suggest that it has the required hardware to use it. I doubt very much it has any supporting hardware or antennas to use FM radio.
Who uses FM radio anyways when you can use an app like TuneIn Radio and listen over data without reception issues?
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Who uses FM radio anyways when you can use an app like TuneIn Radio and listen over data without reception issues?
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People with data limits.
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I mostly use Tunein Radio Pro on wifi.
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Apparently the 805 Snapdragon SoC does support FM support, but there is more to it than that.
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Who uses FM radio anyways when you can use an app like TuneIn Radio and listen over data without reception issues?
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People who listen to ballgames. The 30 second lag makes apps unusable at live sporting events.
Why would someone listen to a ballgame on the radio if they are there in person?
neyenlives said:
Why would someone listen to a ballgame on the radio if they are there in person?
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Many people like to listen to the play by plan while they are at the game. Its very useful when you are really far back and can not see the players to well.
knitler said:
Many people like to listen to the play by plan while they are at the game. Its very useful when you are really far back and can not see the players to well.
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Wow I can see that.... but it must suck to buy tickets and go through all that to not even be able to enjoy the game without a radio...... You can get better at home on TV...
jes24cap said:
I called T-Mobile and had them look into the FM chip in the nexus 6. They told me that the nexus 6 does have the FM chip but they will not active it. Does anyone have a patch that actives the chip? This is the website that made me aware that this phone can play FM stations.
http://freeradioonmyphone.org/
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AFAIK, having an FM chip on a phone doesn't mean you can receive FM radio transmissions on the phone b/c you need a proper FM antenna. The Nexus 6 only has 1 antenna on it and it is designed for use by the GSM/CDMA/LTE radios, not by an FM chip.
So like with a walkman/ipod, you would need to use the headphone wire as an FM antenna BUT AFAIK there would need to be a coupling b/t the headphone jack and the FM chip and there isn't unless the phone was designed to use the FM radio There is in some phones like the Moto G and Moto E, but the phone has to be designed to use the headphone wire as an antenna AFAIK.
knitler said:
Many people like to listen to the play by plan while they are at the game. Its very useful when you are really far back and can not see the players to well.
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Also because in many cities, like Atlanta, the radio guys are just better than the "visual" guys. I often watch the game on tv but listen on WSB AM
One teardown I read (can't remember which) explained that the 805 comes with an FM chip, however there is no wiring from it to the headphone jack for antenna. There is also no system support included by Qualcomm to use it. Unlikely to get that working without serious hardware modification & software integration.
stumpy352 said:
One teardown I read (can't remember which) explained that the 805 comes with an FM chip, however there is no wiring from it to the headphone jack for antenna. There is also no system support included by Qualcomm to use it. Unlikely to get that working without serious hardware modification & software integration.
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Agreed
Sprint Nexus 6 Has FM Radio
The Nexus 6 on Sprint has the FM Radio activated out of the box. You can check the specs on the website, it is called NextRadio.
FM Radio
I'm in the broadcasting industry, and my radio colleagues say there's a conspiracy at work here. They swear that every cell phone made contains an FM radio receiver. But - carriers prefer you use data rather than free airwaves, so most block it.
I don't know if that's true. But I do have one piece of personal information.
I own the Sony Xperia Tablet Z. WiFi only. And yes, it has a built-in FM radio. Even has an app for 'FM Radio,' and it works like a charm. It apparently uses the headphone cord for the antenna.
Then I also bought the Xperia Tablet Z2, with Verizon LTE. And...there is no FM radio access at all. No app, no mention of it, anwhere.
As for the Nexus 6, a thought: aren't they all pretty much identical? So, if one has FM capability built in, won't they all?
Regardless, the issue is bigger than just this phone. The radio industry has been trying for years to get free radio on cell phones. But, it's just not going to happen on some providers, , since they make money on data. But for those that allow it? Bravo.
bdander said:
The Nexus 6 on Sprint has the FM Radio activated out of the box. You can check the specs on the website, it is called NextRadio.
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Not according to nextradio it doesn't. nextradioapp.com/supported-devices
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app
hello how to activate fm radio in s21 ultra snapdragon version or is there a rom that supports it
febex said:
hello how to activate fm radio in s21 ultra snapdragon version or is there a rom that supports it
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Not all Snapdragon variants offer a built-in FM Tuner. My S9 and S10 were Global variants (Hong Kong). Both have built in FM Tuners but my Hong Kong S21 Ultra no longer supports the feature. Not sure why, maybe the CCP crackdown in Hong Kong has something to do with it.
You might give this a shot.
Samsung Radio (Android)
The official radio app for Samsung smartphones
samsung-radio.en.uptodown.com
my device sm-G9980 honkong device fm radio installed
varcor said:
Market/Operator/Dependent
Not all Snapdragon variants offer a built-in FM Tuner. My S9 and S10 were Global variants (Hong Kong). Both have built in FM Tuners but my Hong Kong S21 Ultra no longer supports the feature. Not sure why, maybe the CCP crackdown in Hong Kong has something to do with it.
You might give this a shot.
Samsung Radio (Android)
The official radio app for Samsung smartphones
samsung-radio.en.uptodown.com
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my device sm-G9980 honkong device fm radio installed
febex said:
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my device sm-G9980 honkong device fm radio installed
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Would you share a screenshot of the radio icon?
Thanks
Does the US unlocked S21 Ultra have this radio accessible by this app?
nixnixnixnix4 said:
Does the US unlocked S21 Ultra have this radio accessible by this app?
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I've been researching this. What's been shared is the 3.0 UI Update removed the Samsung FM Radio for most users. A few devices in certain markets (Australia?) MAY have the utility. I attempted to activate the radio via the Nextradio App without success, they went out of business. I also attempted to install the most recent Samsung FM Radio AKP, again without success. The User Manual for my device (SM-G9980 - Hong Kong) makes no mention of an FM Radio. My wife's S10 Plus (Hong Kong) has the feature and it works fine. You can still install radio apps but the ones I've seen are all streaming with ads.
varcor said:
I've been researching this. What's been shared is the 3.0 UI Update removed the Samsung FM Radio for most users. A few devices in certain markets (Australia?) MAY have the utility. I attempted to activate the radio via the Nextradio App without success, they went out of business. I also attempted to install the most recent Samsung FM Radio AKP, again without success. The User Manual for my device (SM-G9980 - Hong Kong) makes no mention of an FM Radio. My wife's S10 Plus (Hong Kong) has the feature and it works fine. You can still install radio apps but the ones I've seen are all streaming with ads.
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The manufacturers sometimes disable FM radio at the hardware level. So even though the acctual radio chip may be present on the phone, it's disconnected. No amount of software wizardry will tap into it if it's not enabled by Samsung at the hardware level. Older devices had workarounds, but as the community finds and uses loopholes to get around restrictions, comapnies like Samsung plug those loopholes in the next iteration. I've tried to search online for a way to get the S21U FM radio working, but I don't think it's possible at the software level unless Samsung explicitly enabled it from the factory.
I don't think it's going to happen. As far as I can recall, the older phones required that you use your wired headphones as the antenna. After all, FM antennas are fairly large if you want any sort of reception at all. The wire for headphones could work but the newer phones now don't have a headphones jack so there really isn't anywhere to use as an FM antenna. So, even if you could get the chip to work I really don't think it has any connection to an antenna for you to put up any signals.
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I don't think it's going to happen. As far as I can recall, the older phones required that you use your wired headphones as the antenna. After all, FM antennas are fairly large if you want any sort of reception at all. The wire for headphones could work but the newer phones now don't have a headphones jack so there really isn't anywhere to use as an FM antenna. So, even if you could get the chip to work I really don't think it has any connection to an antenna for you to put up any signals.
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I'm inclined to agree. It would seem manufacturers are looking to migrate users to streaming (pay for) options. The stock Samsung FM on devices which are equipped with the feature won't recognize the antenna via earphones connected via the USB port, only the 3.5 jack can be used for the antenna function. Looks to be an obsolete feature, service providers want to make profits for anything they provide.
varcor said:
I'm inclined to agree. It would seem manufacturers are looking to migrate users to streaming (pay for) options. The stock Samsung FM on devices which are equipped with the feature won't recognize the antenna via earphones connected via the USB port, only the 3.5 jack can be used for the antenna function. Looks to be an obsolete feature, service providers want to make profits for anything they provide.
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They're making money by endangering public safety. An FM radio is a basic necessity during an emergency. They really ought to legislate access to weather, AM, and FM radio as a minimum necessity in 5 years. Just my angry stupid opinion.
nixnixnixnix4 said:
They're making money by endangering public safety. An FM radio is a basic necessity during an emergency. They really ought to legislate access to weather, AM, and FM radio as a minimum necessity in 5 years. Just my angry stupid opinion.
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They tried about 10 years back, the broadcast lobby put a wrench ($$$) in the works.
Radio, RIAA: mandatory FM radio in cell phones is the future
Radio stations are willing to fork over $100 million a year to music labels, …
arstechnica.com
No FM Radio for the sole reason that there is no headphone jack anymore. It is being used as an antenna for the FM chip so having an FM radio without an antenna is pretty much useless. No more no less. No need for conspiracy theories here.
nixnixnixnix4 said:
They're making money by endangering public safety. An FM radio is a basic necessity during an emergency. They really ought to legislate access to weather, AM, and FM radio as a minimum necessity in 5 years. Just my angry stupid opinion.
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Absolutely I agree
Riyal said:
No FM Radio for the sole reason that there is no headphone jack anymore. It is being used as an antenna for the FM chip so having an FM radio without an antenna is pretty much useless. No more no less. No need for conspiracy theories here.
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"No FM Radio for the sole reason that there is no headphone jack anymore"
Totally disagree, if a 3.5 jack will accommodate the antenna a Type C Connector can accomplish this function just as easily. Conspiracy? How about common sense? It's all about $$$. Nextradio was unsuccessful at convincing Apple to activate the hybrid radio app on iPhones, that's why they tanked. Either way it would be a critical feature in an emergency setting, possibly a life saver, device manufacturers are well aware of this.
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