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Hello people,
I just purchased a Samsung Galaxy S, and the overall user experience is very sluggish.
Is there anything I can do to have a freaking fast and smooth UI just like an iPhone 4 would have ?
I ran a lagfix (OCLF) that almost doubled my Quadrant scoring, but that seems to be the benchmark part of things. The user interface is still damn slow and buggy.
Any help will be appreciated,
Cheers
Depends on how far you want to go. (Ie, are you willing to void your warranty? )
You can start by installing alternative UIs, like launcherpro, or ADW..
Install increasingly warranty-voiding lagfixes, (actually once you root your phone, i think the warranty is void)
Flash a different kernel (check out android dev subforum)
Flash a different rom w/ all the above (I'm using Doc's froyo rom, it's pretty awesome)
nwsk said:
Depends on how far you want to go. (Ie, are you willing to void your warranty? )
You can start by installing alternative UIs, like launcherpro, or ADW..
Install increasingly warranty-voiding lagfixes, (actually once you root your phone, i think the warranty is void)
Flash a different kernel (check out android dev subforum)
Flash a different rom w/ all the above (I'm using Doc's froyo rom, it's pretty awesome)
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Hi there and thank you for taking the time to answer.
I don't really care voiding my warranty, all I want is a fast phone.
I just installed Launcher Pro, and entering/exiting apps is now much faster.
However, I still experience some lags from time to time. Its weird, I don't even know how to explain it, but the overall user experience is not as fast and smooth as it could be on an iPhone 4 or even on a Windows Phone 7.
So far, here is what I've done :
- Applied OCLF lag fix, which doubled my Quadrant benchmark score
- Installed Launcher Pro
Is there anything else I could do other than flashing a new ROM (Doc's Froyo ROM install procedure seems to be very time-consuming) ?
Cheers
Flash an optimised kernel? Preferably one that has lag fixes in it.. there are a bunch of them in the android dev forum. Remember to undo any existing lagfixes before flashing, or it might mess up..
Don't think doc's rom install thing is really time consuming.. though i guess it depends on how long your definition is took maybe 30 mins to do it, not including downloading time. (And most of that time was spent re-reading instructions to make sure I didn't mess up )
I use autokiller on aggressive.
Never use anything samsung made, like the widgets, the keyboard, the messaging app,the dialer.
I found vooodoo much quicker than oclf in real life but now im using darkies rom. Its ok, but i think stock fw with voodoo might have been faster.
Btw darkies rom is REALLY easy to flash, you might want to try that, just check the devs forum.
theophane said:
Hello people,
I just purchased a Samsung Galaxy S, and the overall user experience is very sluggish.
Is there anything I can do to have a freaking fast and smooth UI just like an iPhone 4 would have ?
I ran a lagfix (OCLF) that almost doubled my Quadrant scoring, but that seems to be the benchmark part of things. The user interface is still damn slow and buggy.
Any help will be appreciated,
Cheers
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Welcome to sgs world.
Oclf is an old way to speed up the sgs.
The new way is to flash a custom kernel and apply lagfix. Basically you converting the filesystem.
You can also in some kernel apply different tweaks.
Sent from GT-I9000 jpo. My own kernel for z4mod and with 342MB Ram
theophane said:
Hello people,
I just purchased a Samsung Galaxy S, and the overall user experience is very sluggish.
Is there anything I can do to have a freaking fast and smooth UI just like an iPhone 4 would have ?
I ran a lagfix (OCLF) that almost doubled my Quadrant scoring, but that seems to be the benchmark part of things. The user interface is still damn slow and buggy.
Any help will be appreciated,
Cheers
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If you don't want to stuff around and have a phone that works out of the box sell it.
Does this lag applies to all phones ???
I have mine updated to froyo 2.2 and Installed tons of apps and games and widgets, I cant seem to notice any lag.
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If you don't want to stuff around and have a phone that works out of the box sell it.
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I'll be doing this in the very near future, but I want to fully test the device before I say it's crap
Coolman4now said:
Does this lag applies to all phones ???
I have mine updated to froyo 2.2 and Installed tons of apps and games and widgets, I cant seem to notice any lag.
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Two of my colleges have a Samsung Galaxy S, and I can confirm that laggy behavior on both of their devices.
Here is a video illustrating the problem :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB1b0UrX9e0
If you make a couple of Google queries, you'll see that the world wide web is full of reviews, topics and videos regarding this problem.
I bet 5 Euro that you're running Android 2.1 in the device.
Logseman said:
I bet 5 Euro that you're running Android 2.1 in the device.
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Cool, you know owe me a pint of San Miguel
Use cm beta if your willing to out up no GPS or Bluetooth.
Other than that is the most customisable and fastest rom for our phone
~Webstar1
theophane said:
Cool, you know owe me a pint of San Miguel
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I'll pay it gladly ^^ I've been running 2.1 and I can understand why people would want to get rid of it ASAP.
Still waiting for official SGS Froyo update here in India before doing fixes.
Hi guys, im coming from a Desire and thinking of switching to the SGS because of the better hardware. Can anyone share what it's like to use it everyday with the 2.2 update already? Is it still that buggy?
I've played around with the SGS 2.1 and it is indeed slow, laggy and somewhat frustrating. Should I expect otherwise?
What about removing touchwiz? Does that bring everything up to speed?
Thanks!
Personally I feel it is slower and even more bug ed than eclair.
Desire should be better in trends of user experience......
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Is it just as slow running bare bones android? I am expecting the Galaxy S to be the first to receive the nexus S port of gingerbread
i find 2.2 way better speed wise, than 2.1
no more lag on multi upgrade from market
I seriously don't know where this lag everyone is talking about coming from, I've had my Galaxy S for 2 months now and so far my phone has been very snappy, ever since the first day I bought it when it was still running 2.1 ... the Samsung Galaxy S is one snappy phone if you ask me! it certainly can stand on it's own against the iPhone 4, which is considered by many to be the smoothest phone out there... I certainly have NO regrets purchasing the Galaxy S
i switched from desire to SGS for the following reasons:
1) music player can play FLAC's
2) divx xvid support and support for many video codecs ( use to use rock player on desire but still it was unable to play some other h264 formats)
3) nice giant super amoled screen
4) light weight and looks are better than desire
The only reason that i miss my desire is :
it was fast ( yeah SGS is a bit laggy even with custom roms and kernels) and it had flash with its camera. ( but camera of SGS is better than desire)
shranav,
How about the capacitive touch buttons? Were they easy to use coming from the Desire? I've tried them with the 2.1 rom and they seemed way unresponsive with the vibrate only registering after 2 -3 secs.
So can I assume that the experience will never be as good as the one in my desire?
oh and does HTC IME work for the SGS?? This is the only keyboard I use because it's easy to add your own dictionary
krunalkamdar said:
Personally I feel it is slower and even more bug ed than eclair.
Desire should be better in trends of user experience......
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Should be? Is this from experience of you're just talking out of your ass? Probably the latter. I've been using Doc rom with ext4 lagfix for the last 10 days and I have nothing but positive things to say about my SGS now. The phone is hella good with 2.2.
mjay9090 said:
I seriously don't know where this lag everyone is talking about coming from, I've had my Galaxy S for 2 months now and so far my phone has been very snappy, ever since the first day I bought it when it was still running 2.1 ... the Samsung Galaxy S is one snappy phone if you ask me! it certainly can stand on it's own against the iPhone 4, which is considered by many to be the smoothest phone out there... I certainly have NO regrets purchasing the Galaxy S
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Same here, fantastic screen, light, good sound for phone...
Of course KIES stink, but there are plenty alternatives...
The only problem I had with 2.1 was that it forgot where the SD cards where too often, and I had to reboot to use access photos or music...
Upgraded to 2.2 and no more "memory" problems...
I bought this mobile a week back with 2.1... Two days back upgraded to froyo... Better than 2.1.. Lot of new options.. Google voice works well... Speed both versions almost same.... Kies sucks in 2.1...but improved with froyo..
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I really don't know what the problem is for some people.
I have 2.1 and upgraded via Keis to 2.2
I was always in the habit of resetting (off and on again) my phone at least once a day. This is something I have done with all phones.
Now with the new Active Applications program in 2.2 I don't do this as much. I just close any programs using this.
I have never suffered lag on the SGS. The only problem I had was the inbuilt email software is really slow. This is not a big problem as I use the gmail software for all my mobile mail.
mjay9090 said:
I seriously don't know where this lag everyone is talking about coming from, I've had my Galaxy S for 2 months now and so far my phone has been very snappy, ever since the first day I bought it when it was still running 2.1 ... the Samsung Galaxy S is one snappy phone if you ask me! it certainly can stand on it's own against the iPhone 4, which is considered by many to be the smoothest phone out there... I certainly have NO regrets purchasing the Galaxy S
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I feel the same. A couple weeks after getting my 9000M (with 2.1 JH2) I decided to try the OCLF (lag fix) and it made some things quicker or snappier, Android Market was noticeably faster. It made some things worse like menu transitions/animations were really choppy after the lag fix and I would get random short hangs every now and again. A couple weeks after applying the lag fix my phone would not boot (stuck on Galaxy S screen then black screen). Luckily the phone wasn't completely dead. I had to do a factory reset and have been running it stock since (probably 10 weeks now). I don't know that I am experience this lag that people talk about. It runs pretty smoothly.
2.2 and Voodoo and every is A-OK!
kingofthebraves said:
oh and does HTC IME work for the SGS?? This is the only keyboard I use because it's easy to add your own dictionary
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htc_ime works
if you go for it, i suggest a custom rom if you want a snappy phone
stock roms suffer from lag, especially when you install many apps
it is really easy to flash a custom rom (or even just a custom kernel)
sorry if its not right place to ask but
whats a diffrent between GT i9000 and Galaxy s i9000
mine says GT I9000
mjay9090 said:
I seriously don't know where this lag everyone is talking about coming from, I've had my Galaxy S for 2 months now and so far my phone has been very snappy, ever since the first day I bought it when it was still running 2.1 ... the Samsung Galaxy S is one snappy phone if you ask me! it certainly can stand on it's own against the iPhone 4, which is considered by many to be the smoothest phone out there... I certainly have NO regrets purchasing the Galaxy S
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I've had 2 SGS so far.
First, had no 3 button menus, but was very quick, no lag. Was able to root and lag fix to improve speed further no bother
Second, my current one. HAS 3bm, but massive lag. Unable to root by normal methods (also hard to verify if phone was rooted) also unable to lag fix
Seems to correlate with what people are saying. You saying there is no lag, and others having no end of problems.
Personally, on this phone I've missed calls with the screen taking too long to change.
I should note that my first phone was network unlocked but this one is tied to Three ireland with their modifications etc to it :-(
They are one in the same.
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Hey all, I updated to 2.2 last night, and have been impressed since first reboot. I have applied oclf as well and the phone has not lagged once. I suggest you also look at the minfree settings in oclf, as the autokill defaults for the sgs are sub par. I found that minfree adjustment has also had a major impact on the performance of the phone. We need to remember that out of the factory (our fresh from factory firmware upgrade) these phone do not run at their best and they need to be tweaked to see full potential. Cheers. H
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I read somewhere (could of been in xda) that enabling usb debugging helps with the lag issues. Don't know how that works but just throwing out there.
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Hello,
I installed some musicial applications (Musical Lite, xPiano) and I see that there is a small delay (less then 1 second) when I press on the Note and the time I hear it.
I checked it on my old IPOD touch and it seems that it's lke that only on Galaxy S I9000.
Does anyone know anything about it?
Thank you
I am using samsung galaxy s and I am not afraid to say Galaxy is far far slower than Iphone or Ipod...I think I took wrong decisiong in chosing Samsung Galaxy..
and now for a real answer
there must some technical explanation for this
The Galaxy S is a really fast phone just Samsung decided to use their own filesystem for the the data/storage partition made on the internal flash, this will explain why you only have a 6GB storage area on the internal storage. The issue you are having is no doubt related to RFS. I suggest applying the voodoo lag fix which will format the partition to ext4 which is lag free. I just flashed the Darkyy custom ROM which comes with the voodoo kernel and applied the lag fix from the recovery menu.
Darky ROM for Galaxy S
Actually I am using PilotX Rom.
I did used the LagFix to change to Ext4.
What are the consequences for doing so?
I heard that it can f--k up the FS.
wintert said:
Actually I am using PilotX Rom.
I did used the LagFix to change to Ext4.
What are the consequences for doing so?
I heard that it can f--k up the FS.
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Only issue with that is if you want to flash another ROM later you must reverse the lagfix then reapply after flash due to the fact that samsung kernels expect the partition that was formatted to EXT4 to be RFS. If you are running darky ROM most of the time you can just do an update with nowipe and it will work fine but every now and then you are gonna need to backup all your apps and settings and stuff if you wish to preserve them. Easily done with Titanium backup which runs nice and fast once that 2GB partition is EXT4 format! All instructions on the Darky ROM thread i linked to earlier.
wintert said:
Actually I am using PilotX Rom.
I did used the LagFix to change to Ext4.
What are the consequences for doing so?
I heard that it can f--k up the FS.
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Never heard of a pilotx rom, and changing to ext4 won't mess anything up. Upgrade to one of the 2.2.1 jpy based roms and it'll get rid of that lag.
It is obvious and clear that iphone is much faster and easy to use as final user.
I don't know a lot about mac and I'm sure many will have a lot to say, but it seems that there are thousands of differents roms for every t terminal with android. And iphone is not that open.
But with a lot of reading and learning we can make our phones the best phones on the market.
What I don't understand is why they don't do phones as they suppose to be. Great as they come out of the box.
I'm starting to like the phone after the lag fix and I'm actually love it.
i want to get the jpy but some things are still on the air. Like I still dont know how to make a n an droid backup, since samsung decided to use the 3e recovery. Or why for some reason I cant use rom manager. Id like to know if swype is also in jpy and what language jpy uses.
Or whats the difference between z4mod and oclf.
The wiki is still on dipers. And nothing is clear enough.
Why could samsung do something so wrong with the file sy st em.
I want to think that if google like sgs to do his new nexus s it is because they have a good reason.
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wintert said:
Hello,
I installed some musicial applications (Musical Lite, xPiano) and I see that there is a small delay (less then 1 second) when I press on the Note and the time I hear it.
I checked it on my old IPOD touch and it seems that it's lke that only on Galaxy S I9000.
Does anyone know anything about it?
Thank you
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I believe it's got nothing to do with the phone hardware. It's probably an Android problem, as all the piano apps that I've tried have that lag (which takes all the fun out of playing as I can't time the notes right).
The touch does register instantly, which can be seen from the depressed appearance of the piano key, but the sound lags. It's probably some problem with Android's sound framework or something.
ravi tejpal said:
I am using samsung galaxy s and I am not afraid to say Galaxy is far far slower than Iphone or Ipod...I think I took wrong decisiong in chosing Samsung Galaxy..
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this total bull****, you say only your crap. sgs is more powerful than the iphone4, apps are lame, coders are lame. I'm coding on both platform in ndk too. the problem is that on android there are very few professional coders. most of iphone coder just porting simpler way their app to android, lack of any optimizings.
Hello everyone, I have a Captivate flashed with a darkytt3r v8.1 ROM. I ran a quadrant standard benchmark and got a pretty good 1105 Mhz. Then I realized I hadn't even flashed speedmod-kernel-i897-k12o-500hz-CWM. After I flashed it from the SGS kernal flasher and then i did another benchmark and got 1018. Did that ROM come with a better speed mod that I overwrote with this one? Can anybody suggest a good speed mod to put on my phone? I like to have my phone push the boundary's of going so fast it combusts so the faster the bester
Am I seeing double?
As long as you try to fix it you can see whatever you want haha
Stop using quadrant!!!
Use whatever kernel feels fastest.
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I am sure that soon there are going to be anti-quadrant lynchmobs comprised of more than half the people in the SGS forums.
Dupont, the succinct fact of the matter is that quadrant means nothing.
As far as I know (and am concerned), Linpack is the only somewhat worthwhile benchmarking utility, second only to simply how the UI feels in your hands.
Also, before we jump to conclusions, do you enable any lagfixes?
Beyond what I've already stated, it doesn't take all that much to quickly look over the 5 or so worthwhile kernels in the development section and make an educated decision on your own.
I just got this phone which is my first android phone so i don't know what lagfixes are but Im pretty sure i dont have any
Dupontrocks11 said:
I just got this phone which is my first android phone so i don't know what lagfixes are but Im pretty sure i dont have any
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That quadrant disparity you might be experiencing might be due to darky 8.1 having a preinstalled, enabled by default lagfix that disappeared when you installed the speedmod kernel.
I don't mean to be a tough-love welcome party (by the way, welcome to the android community), but I know I did a lot of reading about, messing with, and messing up my phone before I even joined the captivate forums.
Do yourself a favor and read some of the dev stickies about ROMs, kernels, and modems just to get a bit better of an idea of their basic purpose/function, then look through the rest of the dev threads for kernels that might be what you're looking for, but (more importantly) would be compatible with your ROM.
It seems like a PITA, but knowing more about how your phone works will benefit you a great deal in the long run. Put in the time, reading, and careful experimenting right now, and you'll be flashing ROMs like a pro in no time.
Speedmod is also just the name of a Kernel. It is not a type of thing that goes on your phone. If you want the fastest speed, use an overclocked Kernel. I have used them in the past, but have always came back to Speedmod because it gets updated so regularly and also has the Voodoo Sound fix.
Thanks guys. I have no problem flashing roms as I watched many video on how to and read many articles on it. Also it might help that my father is senior member of this site with more than 10000 posts . I'll search through and see if I can't learn more about it.
Thanks again, Richard
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currently,i am on f1 innovation v11 with 1959 quadrant score..even though its a all new custom rom but its still laggy....gingerbread 2.3.5 jvs....i love samsung for making wonderful phones but they cant beat apple in using pleasure.....
the biggest prob is....lack of ram due to which message do not open.i have to clear memory to open messages
GUYS PLZ PLZ PLZ HELP ME TO MAKE THIS PHONE EASY TO USE....TELL ME SOME TWEAKS.....
PS..DONT TELL ME TO INSTALL ALL NEW ROM LIKE DARKYROM 10.2.2 I DONT LIKE IT......
anujkhurana said:
currently,i am on f1 innovation v11 with 1959 quadrant score..even though its a all new custom rom but its still laggy....gingerbread 2.3.5 jvs....i love samsung for making wonderful phones but they cant beat apple in using pleasure.....
the biggest prob is....lack of ram due to which message do not open.i have to clear memory to open messages
GUYS PLZ PLZ PLZ HELP ME TO MAKE THIS PHONE EASY TO USE....TELL ME SOME TWEAKS.....
PS..DONT TELL ME TO INSTALL ALL NEW ROM LIKE DARKYROM 10.2.2 I DONT LIKE IT......
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Samsung rom's will always stay laggy unless they change the filesystem. Cyanogenmod is by far one of the smoothest rom i've tried on my Sammy (not that i've tried em all).
An other option would be to lagfix your phone, there are numerous threads that explains how to do that (I dont have time to search for it at the moment).
yes, CM7 is hell of a good rom. i rarely see lag on my phone, i mean, i dont see at all,.. the only problem is, when i change the background of SMS/Messaging pin code, sometimes it enlarges the background, and any live wallpaper won't work there, but STILL GREAT. and i occasionally see lag in other Samsung based roms out there, 2.3.4 / 2.3.5
Try flashing a kernel that incorporates lagfix. Semaphore, speedmod or Dark Core work really well and it's dead easy to install them. Then, convert your filesystem to ext4.
After that, try applying these tweaks, they work wonders on our phone's memory management and speed things up quite nicely:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15948434&postcount=1127
You just need busybox 1.18.2 (read the first post in that thread for a link and more instructions)
cm7 my friend , thats all you need , try it and u will not remember the word "lag"
What he^^ said.
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Which cm7 version is everyone talking about? Can someone post a link to the thread?
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anujkhurana said:
currently,i am on f1 innovation v11 with 1959 quadrant score..even though its a all new custom rom but its still laggy....gingerbread 2.3.5 jvs....i love samsung for making wonderful phones but they cant beat apple in using pleasure.....
the biggest prob is....lack of ram due to which message do not open.i have to clear memory to open messages
GUYS PLZ PLZ PLZ HELP ME TO MAKE THIS PHONE EASY TO USE....TELL ME SOME TWEAKS.....
PS..DONT TELL ME TO INSTALL ALL NEW ROM LIKE DARKYROM 10.2.2 I DONT LIKE IT......
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Custom roms always have higher quadrant scores but they are always laggy. If you want a smooth experience, just flash one of the final builds of Froyo 2.2.1. ZSJPK was the second latest 2.2.1 build and I find it to be the best. It's virtually lag-free.
Try CM7 really good rom, or MIUI rom good one as well and lag free.
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cm7 and miui are, like mentioned, lag-free. But they drain battery faster than stock or stock-based ROMs (at least in my experience). It's a trade-off but it could be worth trying them out.
cm7 is basically "The Way Google Envisioned Android" as in, there's no branding or manufacturer's crap on the phone.
MIUI is what I like to call "So You Got An Android But Like iPhone's Looks Better". I tried it and it was too iPhoney to me. But you might like it.
+1 to CyanogenMod 7.1 stable (CM7.1) - google it for their website, you can't really miss it.
No lags at all. And according to my experience, my battery gets drained as fast as with any other rom (i've tried several stock and custom 2.2 and 2.3.x).
I am staying clear of nightlies however. Stable works great for me, no point screwing up with that.
i know CM7 is good rom and lagfree....because the rom size is only 95mb...but i like few things in samsung...like slide right to call and slide left to msg and few little feature.... we are sooo ****ed up with this great hardware but stupid firmware!!!....**** YOU SAMSUNG
Herman76 said:
Samsung rom's will always stay laggy unless they change the filesystem. Cyanogenmod is by far one of the smoothest rom i've tried on my Sammy (not that i've tried em all).
An other option would be to lagfix your phone, there are numerous threads that explains how to do that (I dont have time to search for it at the moment).
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i know CM7 is good rom and lagfree....because the rom size is only 95mb...but i like few things in samsung...like slide right to call and slide left to msg and few little feature.... we are sooo ****ed up with this great hardware but stupid firmware!!!....**** YOU SAMSUNG
Link to CM7
anujkhurana said:
i know CM7 is good rom and lagfree....because the rom size is only 95mb...but i like few things in samsung...like slide right to call and slide left to msg and few little feature.... we are sooo ****ed up with this great hardware but stupid firmware!!!....**** YOU SAMSUNG
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So which phone would you choose next, then? An HTC?
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anujkhurana said:
i know CM7 is good rom and lagfree....because the rom size is only 95mb
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Huh? ROM size has nothing to do with whether or not it lags.
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Try using odexed roms like Simplicity with ext4. It works great for me.
Hit thanks if this helped
ferparedes said:
So which phone would you choose next, then? An HTC?
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no i will stick to samsung only...there hardware config is fab!!! i installed CM7 but its like.....removing every charm from the firmware to make it light weight and usable....now i am thinking to install hybrid 5.0 looking awsum...letsee....now which new firmware will piss me off!!!