Hello everyone,
I'm debating on upgrading to a Kaiser in the very near future, and I was just looking for suggestions as to where people in the USA have bought their Kaisers. Whenever I do google searches, I find plenty of places that sell them oversees, primarily in the U.K. so my questions is, where are U.S. owners getting their Kaiser's from?
I have T-mobile service, and am not interested in the AT&T Tilt, which is apparently a version of the Kaiser? I'm looking for the full blown version of the Kaiser, with the GPS and whatever other goodies are included.
Thank you for your help,
IIRC, the only difference really between the Tilt and the Kaiser, is that the Kaiser contains a frontside camera.
duprade said:
Hello everyone,
I'm debating on upgrading to a Kaiser in the very near future, and I was just looking for suggestions as to where people in the USA have bought their Kaisers. Whenever I do google searches, I find plenty of places that sell them oversees, primarily in the U.K. so my questions is, where are U.S. owners getting their Kaiser's from?
I have T-mobile service, and am not interested in the AT&T Tilt, which is apparently a version of the Kaiser? I'm looking for the full blown version of the Kaiser, with the GPS and whatever other goodies are included.
Thank you for your help,
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Uh, the Tilt has the GPS and other "goodies". If you wanna add stuff later or flash a new ROM, go to an at&t store and get one.
well, I would much rather get an actual Kaiser than a Tilt. That's why I was looking for feedback from American users who have Kaiser's and where to get them through American dealers. I would much rather order it nationally, than ordering one from oversees if possible.
try amazon.... thats the only place i can really think of...
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-P4550-II-...sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1202781885&sr=8-1
good luck
They only sell tilts in the U.S. Tilts are greatly cheaper than Tytn IIs. Only place you could get the phone you want in the U.S. is some black market.
Why would you want the Kaiser over the Tilt? You can't make video calls yet here in the states so the front facing cam is the only difference.
Not sure why you feel that you have to have the Kaiser. The only thing I'm missing is the front camera - which is a VGA cam meant for the video phone feature which you cannot use in the US. Played with the Kaiser before I bought the Tilt and decided the extra $500+ wasn't even close to worth it (you can find subsidized Tilts for well under $200 - got mine for $150 after rebate in early November). Obviously your decision to make, but I am not missing out on anything but the higher expense. I flash, I cook, I TomTom, I take pictures and video, I get HSDPA virtually everywhere I go.
Try AT&T Premiere and Egghead/Amazon for Tilt deals to help you compare against the Kaisers you find. FWIW.
ebay
a little surprised that there are about 5 replies and not one mentioned ebay.
wouldn't that give you the most options?
Just type "kaiser -tilt" on ebay which will ensure that no entry with tilt is shown (may also leave out some other kaisers but atleast will get you started). I did a search and 9 came up.
Good luck.
I got my Kaiser from an importer off of ebay. I was a very early adopter so I paid a lot for it, but I too wanted a real HTC Kaiser and not a ATT Tilt.
(you can find subsidized Tilts for well under $200 - got mine for $150 after rebate in early November).
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Are you meaning you can find it for $200 with a plan? Because I can't find it unlocked for less than about $350......
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Are you meaning you can find it for $200 with a plan? Because I can't find it unlocked for less than about $350......
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You don't need to buy it unlocked already. Those are scams since its free to unlock. Buy a Tilt, come here and unlock it for free. You'll need to read how when you get it. Use search too.
http://www.expansys-usa.com/
http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=151727
Never had a problem with them.
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Unless you're particularly averse to signing up for a new 2-year contract with AT&T, you can pick up a Tilt for really cheap.
Just ordered mine today for $54.99 (refurbished, w/ 2-year contract but only for the basic voice plan ~$40, using A&T coupon codes I got off the internet).
I paid $370 (including shipping) for my tilt. Bought from ebay. Then i unlocked and customized, etc.....
ronfin44 said:
You don't need to buy it unlocked already. Those are scams since its free to unlock. Buy a Tilt, come here and unlock it for free. You'll need to read how when you get it. Use search too.
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I still don't see any that are locked for cheaper than $300.....
duprade said:
Hello everyone,
I'm debating on upgrading to a Kaiser in the very near future, and I was just looking for suggestions as to where people in the USA have bought their Kaisers. Whenever I do google searches, I find plenty of places that sell them oversees, primarily in the U.K. so my questions is, where are U.S. owners getting their Kaiser's from?
I have T-mobile service, and am not interested in the AT&T Tilt, which is apparently a version of the Kaiser? I'm looking for the full blown version of the Kaiser, with the GPS and whatever other goodies are included.
Thank you for your help,
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Umm there's almost no difference between AT&T TIlt and Kaiser. TIlt has everything (yes, including GPS) but front-side camera (which u dont need in US, frankly).
If I were u, I'd dump T-mobile and switch to AT&T. I got a brand new (not refurb.) Tilt with 2 year contract for $150 USD. Can't beat that. Besides, I get unlimited HSDPA for $20/month (I get around 50-60 KB/sec where I work).
Got the Tilt from ebay shipped for ~$400. I asked my friend to get an unlocked code from ATT so it is free.
i agree with DarkDvr, ditch tmo, and get a tilt from at&t. i got a refurbed one for $150......the second camera is not worth that extra 400-500 imo. besides, if you really wanted that front camera........it may be possible to just plug one in, just like how some ppl were doing it with their 8525, but that all depends if the port is there on the tilt, i havent looked into that yet, so i dont know
Ive been with T-mobile for about 15 yrs.... so I don't want to just ditch tmo.
I don't know why I feel so inclined to buy an actual HTC than the AT&T Tilt... maybe it's a pride thing! Don't want my phone to have at&t all over it ... just HTC
Hey guys, I'm using an unlocked G1 on AT&T and wondering if anyone knows where I can get a refurbished or used Nexus One for a decent price? Sadly, I'm trapped with AT&T but I would like an Android phone that's 3G that I could afford (I work in nonprofit and $600 is definitely not an option )
ebay/craigslist
tried those, no luck; does anyone know of someplace that sell refurbished N1s?
Honestly, the G1 is a wonderful device. If money is an issue, and you want a 3G smartphone, you already have it made. Stick with that, and grab a Nexus One when they become the new G1.
It is a good phone, I do like it, BUT with AT&T as my carrier, I cannot get 3G since it was a t-mobile. Sadly, I don't think there are any places to buy a refurbed N1 since Google has a tight grip on them.
Hi,
I am looking to trade my T-mobile Nexus One for one which works on ATnT frequencies. I will be arriving in the US in 15 days, and will be residing in Troy, New York (zip 12180).
The bootloader has been unlocked, but otherwise there is no modification/damage whatsoever. The phone is around 20 days old. I've been using a screen protector on it from day 0, so no scratches at all.
Would anyone be interested in a switch?
Note: I am looking for a switch only, please; not interested in selling. I'd prefer that the switch happens in-person. I'll post photos of the phone if anyone is interested, but really, it's brand new, no damage at all
Cheers.
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Alternatively, if someone from India has that ATnT Nexus One and is willing to exchange in the next few days, that works out perfectly for me too. Note that in India, 3G will work on either ATT or T-Mobile Nexus One.
Just FYI, if you come to the states and don't have any credit history or SSN for the US, AT&T is going to charge you a HUGE "deposit" in order to open an account.
Whereas, T-Mobile will offer you a Contract Free plan without deposits, but no discounts on phones. This won't be an issue as you already have an N1.
You can get an Unlimited Everything plan (Minutes, Text and Data) for $79.99/mo.
Talderon said:
Just FYI, if you come to the states and don't have any credit history or SSN for the US, AT&T is going to charge you a HUGE "deposit" in order to open an account.
Whereas, T-Mobile will offer you a Contract Free plan without deposits, but no discounts on phones. This won't be an issue as you already have an N1.
You can get an Unlimited Everything plan (Minutes, Text and Data) for $79.99/mo.
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I would very much want to go for T-mobile. But the problem is, most students in my area will be using ATT. Then if I have tmo, no one will call me, or vice-versa
Also, ATT has some sort of agreement with my university (RPI) where they don't charge a steep deposit for students without SSN.
I did a lot of research, and found that tmo is perfect for me, but due to, let's say, "peer pressure", I'll have to go for ATT
just so you know, ATT does not have no contract plans like Tmo does, you will be stuck in a contract if you go the ATT route, unless ATT has changed their tactics recently.
I would definitely want to avoid ATnT, fervently. But, unlike here in India, in USA even incoming calls are charged, so if most people around me are on ATT, I will have to use that, right?
also, isnt there a student (college) discount for tmobile? Im pretty sure there is.
Blueman101 said:
also, isnt there a student (college) discount for tmobile? Im pretty sure there is.
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That's not the real issue.. The problem is the majority. Is there any way to get around it?
Also, my cousin who is already staying there will add me to a family plan of ATT, which will bring down my cost a bit.
Actually, I don't really need 3G at all.. But problem is, ATT will force it on to me
What is the reasoning behind wanting to change to ATT in the first place?
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What is the reasoning behind wanting to change to ATT in the first place?
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I'm currently in India, I will be coming to the US in 15 days. Because most of my seniors and students around my area are on ATnT, won't I have to use ATT? Otherwise no one would be able to call me without both of us incurring charge, except for nights and weekends.
Well if you are on tmo and call someone on att then you will be wasting minutes, but thats normal. My advise if you are still unsure what to do is use tmobile for a month(off contract) then if you needs are not set, either by using all your minutes or what have you, then trade your nexus one in for an att version. Why make a long term 2 year contract without testing the non contract option first.
Thank you Blueman101, nice idea By "off-contract", are you suggesting I go for prepaid? Or "Even More Plus" with Flexpay?
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Well if you are on tmo and call someone on att then you will be wasting minutes, but thats normal. My advise if you are still unsure what to do is use tmobile for a month(off contract) then if you needs are not set, either by using all your minutes or what have you, then trade your nexus one in for an att version. Why make a long term 2 year contract without testing the non contract option first.
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I don't think I'll be able to trade via the official HTC return channel.. I'll have to find a person who is willing to swap with me, right?
rohandhruva said:
Hi,
I am looking to trade my T-mobile Nexus One for one which works on ATnT frequencies. I will be arriving in the US in 15 days, and will be residing in Troy, New York (zip 12180).
The bootloader has been unlocked, but otherwise there is no modification/damage whatsoever. The phone is around 20 days old. I've been using a screen protector on it from day 0, so no scratches at all.
Would anyone be interested in a switch?
Note: I am looking for a switch only, please; not interested in selling. I'd prefer that the switch happens in-person. I'll post photos of the phone if anyone is interested, but really, it's brand new, no damage at all
Cheers.
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Alternatively, if someone from India has that ATnT Nexus One and is willing to exchange in the next few days, that works out perfectly for me too. Note that in India, 3G will work on either ATT or T-Mobile Nexus One.
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i may be interested, or rather a friend of mine has at ATT N1 and needs a TMO N1. Send me a PM if interested!
rohandhruva said:
Thank you Blueman101, nice idea By "off-contract", are you suggesting I go for prepaid? Or "Even More Plus" with Flexpay?
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I was suggest the Even More Plus, whether you use flexpay or not is your choice.
rohandhruva said:
I don't think I'll be able to trade via the official HTC return channel.. I'll have to find a person who is willing to swap with me, right?
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Yeah, trading with another person is probably what you will end up doing.
Glad I could help and welcome (in 15 days) to The States.
mcgoo99 said:
i may be interested, or rather a friend of mine has at ATT N1 and needs a TMO N1. Send me a PM if interested!
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Thanks! Sent you a PM.
Blueman101 said:
I was suggest the Even More Plus, whether you use flexpay or not is your choice.
Yeah, trading with another person is probably what you will end up doing.
Glad I could help and welcome (in 15 days) to The States.
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Thank you very much, for both the welcome and the help
Before you do so, consider this in your decision.
- T-Mobile has unlimited data plan and free tethering atm while Att doesn't.
- T-Mobile has cheaper plans that att. Although ATT to T-Mobile phone calls aren't free, there is a certain amount of minutes in your plan you can use during peak hours or calling other phones from another carrier. I don't think you'll go over 500-700 minutes chit chatting with your pals that's what text msgs are for.
- T-Mobile HSDPA (if theres coverage) so depending on your location is faster than att 3G.
rohandhruva said:
Hi,
I am looking to trade my T-mobile Nexus One for one which works on ATnT frequencies. I will be arriving in the US in 15 days, and will be residing in Troy, New York (zip 12180).
The bootloader has been unlocked, but otherwise there is no modification/damage whatsoever. The phone is around 20 days old. I've been using a screen protector on it from day 0, so no scratches at all.
Would anyone be interested in a switch?
Note: I am looking for a switch only, please; not interested in selling. I'd prefer that the switch happens in-person. I'll post photos of the phone if anyone is interested, but really, it's brand new, no damage at all
Cheers.
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Cross post of this on market: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7247948
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Alternatively, if someone from India has that ATnT Nexus One and is willing to exchange in the next few days, that works out perfectly for me too. Note that in India, 3G will work on either ATT or T-Mobile Nexus One.
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rjhay22 said:
Before you do so, consider this in your decision.
- T-Mobile has unlimited data plan and free tethering atm while Att doesn't.
- T-Mobile has cheaper plans that att. Although ATT to T-Mobile phone calls aren't free, there is a certain amount of minutes in your plan you can use during peak hours or calling other phones from another carrier. I don't think you'll go over 500-700 minutes chit chatting with your pals that's what text msgs are for.
- T-Mobile HSDPA (if theres coverage) so depending on your location is faster than att 3G.
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Thank you. As a student, I don't think I'll be able to afford data/3G on my phone at all, and neither do I really need it. My only intention in switching to ATnT Nexus One is that if ATnT forces a data plan onto me, I'll be able to utilise it. But if there was a way to avoid a data plan altogether, I'd much rather prefer that!
Hmm yes you do have a point that 500 minutes won't be depleted, and I can talk during the off-peak hours. I think I need to re-evaluate my decision. Sigh, this is confusing!
rohandhruva said:
Thank you. As a student, I don't think I'll be able to afford data/3G on my phone at all, and neither do I really need it. My only intention in switching to ATnT Nexus One is that if ATnT forces a data plan onto me, I'll be able to utilise it. But if there was a way to avoid a data plan altogether, I'd much rather prefer that!
Hmm yes you do have a point that 500 minutes won't be depleted, and I can talk during the off-peak hours. I think I need to re-evaluate my decision. Sigh, this is confusing!
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Reading this thread, I think your best bet is:
1. If you cannot find someone to trade before you get here, fly in here, post on Craig's List LOCALLY and trade face to face, it will be faster and no costs to do so.
2. Since you are going to be added to a family plan, then your costs will be MUCH lower and since you are not getting a subsidized phone, they really can't force a data plan on you either way.
3. IF you decide on T-Mobile, see if your friends have the A-List option on their plans. If they do, they add your number and poof, no minutes to call anytime.
Regardless of what you decide, you really don't have to rush to trade your phone before you get here. It will work on AT&T or T-Mobile and it will be faster and easier to swap once you get here. Just keep it in good condition and make sure the one you get works.
Oh yah I remember... If you have the T-Mobile version of the nexus one then it will also work with att. You just can't have 3g on it, which you do not need in the first place. So you really don't need to trade after all.
rohandhruva said:
I would definitely want to avoid ATnT, fervently. But, unlike here in India, in USA even incoming calls are charged, so if most people around me are on ATT, I will have to use that, right?
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You can. Get Unlimited and youll still save money and it doesnt matter!
(Ex-Tmobile Employee)
Thank you all for your help! Coming from India, where the cellular system very different and very cheap, I really need some orientation
Talderon said:
Reading this thread, I think your best bet is:
1. If you cannot find someone to trade before you get here, fly in here, post on Craig's List LOCALLY and trade face to face, it will be faster and no costs to do so.
2. Since you are going to be added to a family plan, then your costs will be MUCH lower and since you are not getting a subsidized phone, they really can't force a data plan on you either way.
3. IF you decide on T-Mobile, see if your friends have the A-List option on their plans. If they do, they add your number and poof, no minutes to call anytime.
Regardless of what you decide, you really don't have to rush to trade your phone before you get here. It will work on AT&T or T-Mobile and it will be faster and easier to swap once you get here. Just keep it in good condition and make sure the one you get works.
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As I said, I really don't want to swap (especially because this N1 has some sentimental value attached to it, too). My only reason behind doing is that ATT will force a data plan on me, and then I will be paying for a facility which I can't use anyway. However, I am relieved to hear that they can't force a data plan if I don't have a subsidized phone. Do I specifically need to request this, or spend hours with a customer support tech fighting over it?
rjhay22 said:
Oh yah I remember... If you have the T-Mobile version of the nexus one then it will also work with att. You just can't have 3g on it, which you do not need in the first place. So you really don't need to trade after all.
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As I said, I am only worried because I heard that ATnT forces a data plan on you if they detect a smartphone. Is there any way to prevent that?
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You can. Get Unlimited and youll still save money and it doesnt matter!
(Ex-Tmobile Employee)
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I don't think I can afford an unlimited plan on Tmo either. And anyway people on ATT will still be charged, so others will be reluctant to call me/accept my calls. The concept of an A-list looks pretty good, though.
So, in the end it all boils down to whether (and how) I can avoid the unnecessary data plan they might add to my line in the family plan
Hey,
So I'm leaving for the Good'Ol USA tomorow. (Oregon, specifically) for 10 days.. and my family and I would like to have some sort of cell phone to use while down there.
Now, I have an unlocked Samsung Infuse..
Can I buy an AT&T PrePaid (Pay as you go) SIM card, and just pop it in my Infuse while we're down there? Or will AT&T recognize it as a smartphone, and try and charge me for a full month's service, on some kind of expensive plan?
I honestly have no idea how these things work.. if someone could shed some light that would be awesome!
You will be fine so long as your Infuse isn't an AT&T branded one. I use foreign phones here on AT&T to get past the anemic smartphone plan.
Hey Dylan. I think you can get prepaid SIMs for voice but not sure about how much data costs on their prepaid plans. You should be able to pick up a prepaid phone with SIM at one of the bigbox stores like Walmart.
http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_query=prepaid&ic=48_0&_refineresult=true&search_constraint=0&depts=E_V&ref=4294295980
Bring a couple Bell Sensations or Rogers GS IIs when you come over.
mlee1999 said:
Hey Dylan. I think you can get prepaid SIMs for voice but not sure about how much data costs on their prepaid plans. You should be able to pick up a prepaid phone with SIM at one of the bigbox stores like Walmart.
http://www.walmart.com/search/searc...&search_constraint=0&depts=E_V&ref=4294295980
Bring a couple Bell Sensations or Rogers GS IIs when you come over.
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F*ckin' ay!
mlee1999 said:
Hey Dylan. I think you can get prepaid SIMs for voice but not sure about how much data costs on their prepaid plans. You should be able to pick up a prepaid phone with SIM at one of the bigbox stores like Walmart.
http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_query=prepaid&ic=48_0&_refineresult=true&search_constraint=0&depts=E_V&ref=4294295980
Bring a couple Bell Sensations or Rogers GS IIs when you come over.
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Thanks for the reply Mike!
Ok, so I probably won't be able to use my AT&T branded Infuse? Because it will be recognized by AT&T as a smartphone?
I'll probably just get a prepaid phone, then buy prepaid minutes. I'm not looking for data or anything, just simple voice to make a few calls back to Canada.
Oh, and I would if I could! Lol, I haven't seen anything good show up locally! and I think you mean Bell Samsung Galaxy S2!, not Rogers!
Ah, Bell is getting lucky these days! The Sensation and the GSII! That's insane.. but I guess Rogers is getting the EVO 3D and the Optimus 3D.
What about T-Mobile Pay as you go? Has always worked well for me. Or perhaps your phone does not support the T-Mobile bands...
Looking into getting a Galaxy Camera. I was excited they offered a wifi only camera. Looking at the prices though between the two, it looks like the wifi only version of the camera is about $100 more than an unlocked GC100. Is the ONLY difference between the two that one has cell data capabilities and one doesn't? The GC100 still has wifi, so I'm kind of confused on the pricing...
I was thrown off by the price diff also.. went ahead and got the unlocked one on amazon for 340.... And love it.. took it to Six flags this weekend ( my daughter was dancing there ) used my att sim. and had data and texts all day while still being able to take nice pics.. I say go for the unlocked one, its cheaper, and that sim slot may come in handy one day.. even if u only use the wifi..
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I was thrown off by the price diff also.. went ahead and got the unlocked one on amazon for 340.... And love it.. took it to Six flags this weekend ( my daughter was dancing there ) used my att sim. and had data and texts all day while still being able to take nice pics.. I say go for the unlocked one, its cheaper, and that sim slot may come in handy one day.. even if u only use the wifi..
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True. I have T-mobile which I think will work in it (at least basic 3G), so I probably will go that route. I just wasn't sure if I was missing something or if it was just retailers hanging onto that price for some reason. Thanks.
tekkitan said:
True. I have T-mobile which I think will work in it (at least basic 3G), so I probably will go that route. I just wasn't sure if I was missing something or if it was just retailers hanging onto that price for some reason. Thanks.
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If you want to hold off a bit we can hopefully provide some files to twistedumbrella and EVA which will help us completely open up the GC120 Verizon Galaxy Camera. Verizon is required to sell any device that uses the 4G LTE spectrum as factory carrier unlocked. So it is quite possible you can purchase a GC120 (for $250 on ebay now) and get TMO 4G (vice just 3G on gsm model) on it.
Just putting this out there. Don't take any of it as set in stone as of yet!
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If you want to hold off a bit we can hopefully provide some files to twistedumbrella and EVA which will help us completely open up the GC120 Verizon Galaxy Camera. Verizon is required to sell any device that uses the 4G LTE spectrum as factory carrier unlocked. So it is quite possible you can purchase a GC120 (for $250 on ebay now) and get TMO 4G (vice just 3G on gsm model) on it.
Just putting this out there. Don't take any of it as set in stone as of yet!
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Thanks. I don't see any on eBay for that cheap however. Amazon has the GC100 for $330 which I think is a pretty decent price. I wouldn't mind either if it was only 3G because I would only use it if I really need it (which will probably be rare). Heck right now I have a Nexus S which is still 3G so hey, I'm used to it