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As some of you who follow me on Twitter (@Hashcode0f) may already know, I booted up ICS today on the Droid 3.
Almost nothing works (including touch sensor for the screen), but it's progress on that front.
The question remains.. where should I spend my time?
And you the community get to make that choice.
New Poll at Rootz
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/10227-ics-booted-now-what/
My god you are amazing!
Hey hash did you get my PM? I can't post in the deveopment forum
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I don't know how good ICS is.. and also depends on how long it would take to get a functional build (everyday use). If it takes 3+ months I say finish CM7 first
I'd still like to see the LED used only for notifications. The sound, camera and 3g errors are no biggie but they're nagging imperfections in an otherwise killer ROM.
What sort of advances does ICS offer over the current Android?
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I say work on CM7 Hash, if Googlerola gets us an unlocked bootloader by 2012, ICS will be way easier to work on
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verkerria said:
I say work on CM7 Hash, if Googlerola gets us an unlocked bootloader by 2012, ICS will be way easier to work on
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to me its looking like verizon isnt going to unlock our bootloaders ever so dont let that sway your choice
Phibernaut said:
What sort of advances does ICS offer over the current Android?
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That's what I'm saying. Liberty rom and ADW launcher got me with no issues look or performance wise. Unless ICS has bigger changes than the obvious theme and performance changes. Ain't no point to me in worrying about.
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Some day....the bootloader will be unlocked. That day...will be when nobody cares about this phone anymore...unfortunately
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tacosrdelicioso said:
Some day....the bootloader will be unlocked. That day...will be when nobody cares about this phone anymore...unfortunately
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the D4 is coming out, people barely adopted this one. people already don't care about this phone.
I would much rather you rebuild safestrap to make 2nd system on SD Card.
tacosrdelicioso said:
Some day....the bootloader will be unlocked. That day...will be when nobody cares about this phone anymore...unfortunately
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If it were up to Motorola only, they would probably unlock the bootloader, but Verizon has the final say.
I would love to see ICS for the Droid 3, I imagine we will see a Motorola issued update sometime next year, it would be nice if they didn't use Motoblur with ICS but I'm not getting my hopes up.
I would love to have unmolested ICS on my phone. I don't like much of Blur.
Hashcode you are our Droid3-God Thanks!
I love the task-app of Blur and that everything is black on white.
thank y for your hard working !
I know chevycam and i'm sure other developers are waiting for a working CM version to use as a base for their own roms. Plus getting the drivers and other assorted bugs worked out now on 7 should help when CM9 comes out later.
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I know chevycam and i'm sure other developers are waiting for a working CM version to use as a base for their own roms. Plus getting the drivers and other assorted bugs worked out now on 7 should help when CM9 comes out later.
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GB is a year old, we need to move on. I've had GB since the first Droid OG port.
Stay on the cutting edge, Hashcode! Thanks for your work!
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CM7 for sure. It will make CM9 easy. Then, we can also have MIUI and other AOSP based ROMs. It might not even be possible to get ICS working completely without a new kernel. But it is definitely possible to finish CM7. It's a waste of time to work on ICS now.
Not necessarily GoogleAndroid. Remember that he would have to make everything work since the code base for ICS is a huge change from the code base for GB. I would think that would be the case unless the CM team takes care of that.
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What do you think odds are that you will have ics up on the droid 3 before motorola releases it for the bionic(would be jokes but I bet odds are super good)? Would the bionic ics source speed up your port to droid 3 or make it more stable? I guess I could think of a list of questions as a noob but honestly, the main would be which makes most sense to you? That's the box I would check in the poll.
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=57374053&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-266
Blame the hardware. How about blame the developers on their end!
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I don't reckon most Droid 3 owners give a **** about ICS on their phones, nor do they have any clue what it even is. That is a shame though, because for Android enthusiasts like us, it is a big deal, especially when we are running ICS on it already and it makes MotoBlur look like the old LG Env interface.
Most people don't root, and Verizon isn't going to promote an OS version over a new handset. I love my D3, but it's utter nonsense that it won't get official ICS just months after Google called the version the great unifier that can and will run on every phone.
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I'm still running the alpha 6 and all seriousness if it weren't for a few things I would swear it was better than alpha. If motorola only knew what a pure ics experience was like on their hardware they could easily bury samsung and the crap nexus they released.
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davwman said:
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=57374053&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-266
Blame the hardware. How about blame the developers on their end!
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I compared the hardware specs between XT860 and Galaxy Nexus and the only differences I really saw was that we only have 512mb ram. Same GPU almost the same CPU, I think moto is buying time so Goog can save them
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jckeyser said:
Most people don't root, and Verizon isn't going to promote an OS version over a new handset. I love my D3, but it's utter nonsense that it won't get official ICS just months after Google called the version the great unifier that can and will run on every phone.
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Moto still has not confirmed that the D3 is not getting ICS. As the DX and D2 both received GB well after they were no longer being sold, I think it's a good possibility that it will. We'll see, though.
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Moto still has not confirmed that the D3 is not getting ICS. As the DX and D2 both received GB well after they were no longer being sold, I think it's a good possibility that it will. We'll see, though.
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I think hashcode will get us ics long before moto does
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He already has. And Beta is right around the corner.
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How about unlocking the damn boot loaders and let us decide what is on our phone
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Well, that too.
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How about unlocking the damn boot loaders and let us decide what is on our phone
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I doubt that we will ever see bootloaders unlocked on our current phones. I suspect that it could not be done without sending the phones back to Motorola and having them replace the "one time" programmable firmware. Why else would having a Dev Razr be useless for unlocking other Razrs. I think the only way we would ever be able to put anything we wanted on these phones would be if Moto released their encrypted key so that the phone would accept it. FAT chance of that happening, but I bet that hasn't crossed anyone's mind at Moto. Maybe we could suggest that to them.
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The main bootloader unlock change.org page is over 7500 signed. Its got to mean something.
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Here's some good news though
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/0...n-of-motorola-to-clear-as-early-as-next-week/ Hopefully this will get something done and some good progress made.
nice!
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Good. Motorola actually has some nice hardware now but they suck with software it seems.
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The main bootloader unlock change.org page is over 7500 signed. Its got to mean something.
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OK, can someone answer a possibly dumb question for me? I've spent the last year happily rooting my original Droid and running custom roms - finally settling on Cyanogen Mod. Now, I'm no expert but I've found it pretty easy to do by just following the instructions that are available many places online. I now have my Droid 3 and so far am just running it stock - waiting for CM9 to get to a release version.
So, from the discussion I'm assuming that rooting the Device and loading Cyanogen is somehow something less than "unlocking the boot loader". But if it is, does that matter? Whatever that actually means it doesn't seem to be preventing anyone from running custom ROM's - or am I missing something?
Reminds me of h4ck1ng t3h g1b50n
Hack the planet!
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ratman6161 said:
OK, can someone answer a possibly dumb question for me? I've spent the last year happily rooting my original Droid and running custom roms - finally settling on Cyanogen Mod. Now, I'm no expert but I've found it pretty easy to do by just following the instructions that are available many places online. I now have my Droid 3 and so far am just running it stock - waiting for CM9 to get to a release version.
So, from the discussion I'm assuming that rooting the Device and loading Cyanogen is somehow something less than "unlocking the boot loader". But if it is, does that matter? Whatever that actually means it doesn't seem to be preventing anyone from running custom ROM's - or am I missing something?
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With a locked bootloader we ca still run custom roms thanks to tricky devs but no custom kernels
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Endoroid said:
With a locked bootloader we ca still run custom roms thanks to tricky devs but no custom kernels
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But I used to run custom kernels on my Droid 1 too. I was running CM7.1 with a Chevy#1 (think that's what it was) kernel which was what let me use Set CPU to overclock. Is that not loading a "custom kernel"? Or was the boot loader unlocked on my Droid 2?
I'm not criticizing or saying anyone else is wrong - I'm just trying to understand what the differences are between what I have been doing and having a true "unlocked boot loader". What are the things that would allow me to do that can't be done now?
droid 1 is the only true unlocked bootloader moto phone with the exception of the atrix, which was accomplished with many many hours of work.
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Just got the update notification, currently running and quite happy with GB v20b. No rush for me to update to GB v20c. Thought some might be interested.
Cheers
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Wait. V20B or V20C
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Is it worth it?
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We've had V20C for quite a while. It's currently unrootable.
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Just popped into say that I'm currently building a ROM. Hopefully based of V20C
oooooh teasing bad!
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I totally see what you mean.
The title threw me off.
There's a V20B_00.kdz available now.
If' it's rootable and runs on AT&T frequencies, I'm using it as a base. Screw V20C. xD
WOAH! V20B_00.kdz seems to be PURE LG.
No bloatware or anything.
Not rootable yet though.
I'm going head on into this. The most LEGIT Lg rom yet.
Rootable or not. Gb without the bloatware sounds awesome
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Forget it.
They aren't rootable.
I'm starting development on V21A
wait so there is a rogers v20b? Whats the link to it?
Im just gonna say good bye to the thrill and att
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Damn Come on guys. I gave My Thrill to my Wife and I got a Galaxy II. She is dieing for an Upgraded Fully functional OS
BTW Not really complaining just pushing
Twisted Z said:
Damn Come on guys. I gave My Thrill to my Wife and I got a Galaxy II. She is dieing for an Upgraded Fully functional OS
BTW Not really complaining just pushing
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Don't worry. A ROM is in the works. Gingerbread of course.
I figured I have been watching. i played with it last week but got no where. I have to say I like that LG better then my Galaxy for some things for sure. The keyboard is way better then my S II
And why can we not use the Roger's baseband? Different radio or frequencies or what? I'm just a layman on this, but at first thought, I'd expect that it might work. Just wanting to know, to learn.
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We've had V20C for quite a while. It's currently unrootable.
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jznomoney said:
wait so there is a rogers v20b? Whats the link to it?
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Yea link please. I'm still having baseband issues and want to reupgrade anyway.
Is the baseband a set of files like in the system folder. I'm think with a bit of tweaking they should run on 21A.
The issue I have is that the signal keeps dropping of on the 21A rom but it is fine on the 20A.
Hey guy,
I picked up the Atrix HD yesterday and so far I'm loving it but I was wondering if anyone has thought of a way to root this bad boy?
Thanks in advance
Adam
AdamsBig said:
Hey guy,
I picked up the Atrix HD yesterday and so far I'm loving it but I was wondering if anyone has thought of a way to root this bad boy?
Thanks in advance
Adam
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I did the same, but it is FAR too early to expect anything.Since it has a locked bootloader, it'll probably take a while (similar to previous versions of the atrix) and I'm sure once Moto releases their webkit to unlock the bootloader the floodgates will open, but hopefully someone will step up and prove me wrong
I tried all the obvious root methods with no luck. There is no similar phone to the AHD yet, so nobody's attempted root on similar hardware.
bimmerd00d said:
I tried all the obvious root methods with no luck. There is no similar phone to the AHD yet, so nobody's attempted root on similar hardware.
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Has anyone tried the root method for RAZR ICS / Droid4 ICS?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1707214
Let me know if it works.
Once you guys get this, I really hope someone can pull that clock/weather/battery widget. I want it really bad. I also hope it doesn't rely on the framework of the phone
danifunker said:
Has anyone tried the root method for RAZR ICS / Droid4 ICS?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1707214
Let me know if it works.
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I tried and couldn't get it to work.
bimmerd00d said:
I tried and couldn't get it to work.
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Hmm, it's a snapdragon S4 processor... What other phones have the same processor in there? You might be able to find some leads on that...
I was initially interested in getting my hands on the radio, but I think it's a completely different architecture than most of the other Motorola phones (most of the ones I know are TI OMAP), so you might need something different...
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Hmm, it's a snapdragon S4 processor... What other phones have the same processor in there? You might be able to find some leads on that...
I was initially interested in getting my hands on the radio, but I think it's a completely different architecture than most of the other Motorola phones (most of the ones I know are TI OMAP), so you might need something different...
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I had the same thought, galaxy s3 uses an Odin root, and the HTC one x root method didn't work either.
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My skyrocket has an s4 processor I think and there are couple root methods for it.
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My skyrocket has an s4 processor I think and there are couple root methods for it.
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If i'm not mistaken, the skyrocket is a Snap S3 processor. Also, it's an Odin root much like the S3 as well i think.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3364
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My skyrocket has an s4 processor I think and there are couple root methods for it.
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Skyrocket has a S3.
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I am honestly surprised NO ONE has found a root method yet.
Phones have been rooted days after they come out. I guess development on this phone is going to be painfully slow.
Kedakari said:
I am honestly surprised NO ONE has found a root method yet.
Phones have been rooted days after they come out. I guess development on this phone is going to be painfully slow.
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The boot loader is locked until Web kit is released by moto, why put extra effort into it than you have to? It'll come when it comes.
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The boot loader is locked until Web kit is released by moto, why put extra effort into it than you have to? It'll come when it comes.
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True but the Artix and Atrix 2 had locked boot loaders and we rooted them. I agree it will come when it comes but I will keep trying till either I get it or someone else releases a way. :good:
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The boot loader is locked until Web kit is released by moto, why put extra effort into it than you have to? It'll come when it comes.
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Atrix 2 still has a locked bootloader. It's been rooted, I've even had CWM work on boot. The only thing we were not able to do was get a kernel so we could get radios working under ICS.
There is hardly any extra effort when I want more access over my file system.
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True but the Artix and Atrix 2 had locked boot loaders and we rooted them. I agree it will come when it comes but I will keep trying till either I get it or someone else releases a way. :good:
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I can hardly wait. I miss CyanogenMod and I hope the web kit rolls out soon so we can start unlocking the potential behind these motorola phones.
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Atrix 2 still has a locked bootloader. It's been rooted, I've even had CWM work on boot. The only thing we were not able to do was get a kernel so we could get radios working under ICS.
There is hardly any extra effort when I want more access over my file system.
I can hardly wait. I miss CyanogenMod and I hope the web kit rolls out soon so we can start unlocking the potential behind these motorola phones.
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Agreed, about root, that won't take very long at all i don't think. my comment was specifically about development being slow for this phone. We'll see theme packages before we see any real development because of the bootloader thing. Work smarter not harder and all.
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DISTRAUGHTKLOWNZ said:
Agreed, about root, that won't take very long at all i don't think. my comment was specifically about development being slow for this phone. We'll see theme packages before we see any real development because of the bootloader thing. Work smarter not harder and all.
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I'm just interested in why we haven't got root like most other phones. I mean, the HTC One X hasn't been out long before they had a toolkit out for it.
I think they even had root for the Droid 4 the day before it was released. SGS3 came out and people are already making JB ports.
Now the Atrix HD comes around and poof... nothing? If I had been more technically inclined, or knew where to start, I would have made a root method myself.
It shouldnt be so hard, whats stopping us? (besides a few people just waiting for the web kit)
...and if no one else is up to it, where do I start?
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I'm just interested in why we haven't got root like most other phones. I mean, the HTC One X hasn't been out long before they had a toolkit out for it.
I think they even had root for the Droid 4 the day before it was released. SGS3 came out and people are already making JB ports.
Now the Atrix HD comes around and poof... nothing? If I had been more technically inclined, or knew where to start, I would have made a root method myself.
It shouldnt be so hard, whats stopping us? (besides a few people just waiting for the web kit)
...and if no one else is up to it, where do I start?
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I have been wondering the same thing now. If I knew where to start also I would try coming up with a method
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Flagship phones get dev attention faster. Im pretty sure its the encrypted bootloader thing that's holding it up
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Flagship phones get dev attention faster. Im pretty sure its the encrypted bootloader thing that's holding it up
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Not really.
If you go check the other thread we've tried over 7 methods.
Motorola patch the /system/, /data/local/, and all the system blocks.
We can push files into /data/tmp/ but we cant write to mmcblk0p36 with debugfs
It simply wont give us permission.
With an unlocked bootloader, yes for sure we can get root. At that point it'd be less of a concern to get root because we'd be able to do so much more.
I even tried zergRush exploit used by most Snapdragon S4 phones with no luck.
Again we ran into problems with permissions to write or mount /system/
chmod wont do anything either.
Guys, my wife is tired of her att Atrix 4G, att really has a sucky lineup for Android phones right now.
Someone suggested a Razr I. Since its not supported by a US carrier how does it get its updates?
Is it a decent phone, unlocked of course, or Have you moved on to something else? Help me find a new phone for the wife
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I'm on AT&T, and my razr I runs beautifully! Battery is by far one of the outstanding features of the device, I can easily use it for two days straight. I would only get the phone though if you're willing to root. Stock is experience is great don't get me wrong, but the roms offered on this forum are just so much better. As for updates, I haven't bothered to check in months. I'm not expecting the phone to get upgraded any further than 4.1.2, so the only updates I check now are on development section of the forum. In my opinion the only things we would really miss out on are lock screen widgets and trim support, but besides that I haven't felt that the phone needs updating.
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I can't touch my wife's phone, lol. That said I'll probably unlock the bootloader and flash the stock boot logo back so she won't freak out, but keep it stock and rooted (for TiBu).
4.1.2 is cool. Her Atrix is still on GB. So picking up one of these babies from eBay won't be a bad thing to do huh? Very cool!
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SCFirefighter said:
I can't touch my wife's phone, lol. That said I'll probably unlock the bootloader and flash the stock boot logo back so she won't freak out, but keep it stock and rooted (for TiBu).
4.1.2 is cool. Her Atrix is still on GB. So picking up one of these babies from eBay won't be a bad thing to do huh? Very cool!
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It's not possible to flash stock boot logo...
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Really? Oh well. I can on my HD.
Can the i take advantage of att's 4G network speeds if it is not blessed by big blue?
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Sadly you'll be limited to 3G. But AT&T's network is fast enough that I don't really mind
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clickstop said:
Sadly you'll be limited to 3G. But AT&T's network is fast enough that I don't really mind
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I'll be honest, that's a downer. Not sure if my wife can overcome that.
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You could get the one mini of she likes 4.3 form factor, it comes with lte. Only downside I see is the subpar battery life and sense, that one's personal preference though
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The HTC One mini? Haven't looked unto it. Will check them out thanks!
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