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Looking into buying a Nook Color

I want to get the best deal on one of these, is Craigslist the place?
Or should I buy new for $250? or are there some going for 200 new?

Retail, you'll find them new for $250. (I haven't seen them go on sale)
There was a deal on B&N's eBay store (that only applied to ebay purchase) for $50 off... making it $200. But that deal has since expired.
After that there is the Craig's List or ebay route to take your chances and buy a used one.

Although I'm sure most people will not have problems, I wouldn't buy a nook over ebay or craigslist and I'd spend the extra $50 for new. That way you have full warranty for one.

That's true. I'm trying to convince my mom to get one but she keeps saying that there will be much better technology in a couple of months...
Never live in the past but always learn from it.

There will be... for 600-800 bucks.
Though the new resistive Coby model looks very interesting for $170.

Tennis11 said:
That's true. I'm trying to convince my mom to get one but she keeps saying that there will be much better technology in a couple of months...
Never live in the past but always learn from it.
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yeah, but that's like saying you should get a galaxy tab or Xoom over a Nook. For the price there is nothing like it. Sure in a year from now we might see more, but in two years from now, we'll see something twice as good as that, so it's all on when you want to get into the game. I personally bought the nook with the thought that a year or year and a half from now I'm going to upgrade and spend the good money on a good one (if I still want it)

There is always something better coming out tomorrow. You just have to figure out what it is that you want in a tablet. I for one wanted a tablet to mess around with a decent price point that has android on it and i can download some apps and have somehing to easily browse the web. I originally bought a archos 101 which is a very cool product but after a couple of weeks I realized i couldn't stand the viewing angles of it, i mean i could barely stand to look at it in landscape mode and it was unbeariable in portrait mode as it just messe with my eyes. So i got the nook color and the screen is fantastic. I've rooted it and installed my favorite launcher and some simple apps that i enjoy using. Plus the great thing bout the nook color is a lot of people are hacking it and developing roms for it and someday hopefully we will have a nice version of honeycomb to play around with.

This may or may not be of help to the OP, but, there is a $15.00 Gift Card offer available for Referral.
With the Groupon B&N GC, I made a small purchase and along with it a free trial of B&N Membership; also I registered my NOOK COLOR bought from B&N Ebay offer. Not sure, which one triggered it, but I received Email from B&N with the above offer.
So, you may want to check with your friends near you.
Regarding purchase for your Mom: her age, eyesight and nimbleness of her fingers, would be a major consideration to make sure a 7" tablet will suffice. Notwithstanding, these factors for older people, I feel this is the best bargain in its price range.

xdabr said:
There will be... for 600-800 bucks.
Though the new resistive Coby model looks very interesting for $170.
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Do not buy it.
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honestly I wouldnt buy it used.. I was considering buying one on craigslist and decided to go to the store... this is why i wouldnt buy it used..
My first nook.. returned it in less than an hour because it had rippling of the LCD beneath the digitzer.
My second nook, returned and exchanged it 6 days later because the bezel was creaky, volume button would stick on the + and it had horrible light leaking on the bottom right (Almost like a big yellow arc you could see at night no matter what brightness setting it was set to).
Now i am on my third nook color.. This one has dust underneath the digitizer between the LCD, creaks alot too..
Based on my experience i would highly recommend spending the extra bit of money just for the 14 day return\exchange policy coverage.. the quality control on these devices sucks.

I have no troubles, but highly recommend getting one new, just for the peace of mind of replacement if there is a hardware problem.

I think I'll pull the trigger once (hopefully) the B&N-Ebay discount happens again....I was on the fence last time last time it had a $50 discount.....

Mine is just perfect out of the box, not any single problem, love it so much.

Would anyone be able to recommend a reseller that ships to the UK? Or one that's based here preferably.
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E Bay NC
Got a $200 one on E Bay from B&N New, tried booting Froyo from SD. For some reason the MicroSD went in between the back cover and Chassis. Since I had to take it apart to extract the card, and probably voided the warantee
I decided to go the auto-nooter route and use the sd for storage. Thr back does seem a little creaky now, but everything works fine. Hate those micro sd's, already lost one, and broke another.
Jim

xdabr said:
There will be... for 600-800 bucks.
Though the new resistive Coby model looks very interesting for $170.
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I have a current model Coby, with the resistive screen. I don't like it. I'm use to the touch screen on my OG Droid. Also have a NC and I think it is a good tablet for the price. I couldn't see paying $600 for a tablet, especially if I bricked it from messing around with it.
it is true, the dev community for the NC is so much larger than the Coby community.
Just my 2¢
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Thanks; the new Coby (shipping from Amazon soon) adds multitouch and a front camera, so it mimics the iPad2 to a tiny degree. Unfortunately I still don't know any retailers that carry it locally so I could see just how bad the touchscreen is. (I've used Windows Mobile resistive screens, and I think they're fine!)

NC Article on zdnet this weekend

I thought everyone would be interested. ZDNet is usually pretty Apple happy but this article praises the NC.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/the-first-great-android-tablet-nook-color/8570#comments

richdaley said:
I thought everyone would be interested. ZDNet is usually pretty Apple happy but this article praises the NC.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/the-first-great-android-tablet-nook-color/8570#comments
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Praises the Nook Color as a full blown tablet (once the App Store opens)... I wonder what the execs at Barnes and Noble are thinking right now? My guess: "Should we try to ride this tiger? Will it eat us in the end or will it help us devour the competition?" I suspect there's a lot of soul searching going on in Barnes and Nobleland.

i think BN knows what they have - i am sure they built the nook as such knowing they will make use of its full capabilities once they have content to offer - to me the nook color offers a conduit for selling not only books but rich media - audio, video, graphic novels etc - BN is aware Amazon is working on their own tablet and that amazon has a robust portfolio of content - so this is a pre-emptive move on their part before amazon launches their tablet - after all, BN also set the bar for pricing the piece ( a low cost high quality tablet) - Amazon will have to also compete on price not only on content
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Praises the Nook Color as a full blown tablet (once the App Store opens)... I wonder what the execs at Barnes and Noble are thinking right now? My guess: "Should we try to ride this tiger? Will it eat us in the end or will it help us devour the competition?" I suspect there's a lot of soul searching going on in Barnes and Nobleland.
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A problem arises (and likely this is the reason for the apprehension by BN in releasing an "app store") if the NC becomes too successful as a tablet because it undermines its ability to be a successful loss-leader. Considering the CPU, screen, memory (flash and ram), battery and wireless controller I'd estimate the COGS comes in around $170 per unit, add in fabrication costs for the mainboard and housing and distribution/quality control and the NC is a low-margin or possibly negative-margin product. BN is counting on accessory and book sales to make a real profit on these devices, which is why they are probably not going to be too mod-friendly going forward.

This is really an inaccurate story. Stock NC already has email and a web browser on it. All they're really adding is the BN app store. There's no word yet on how many games/apps will be available. The update will bring Flash and the BN app store. It's not going to unlock it as a tablet the way rooting currently does.

mthe0ry said:
A problem arises (and likely this is the reason for the apprehension by BN in releasing an "app store") if the NC becomes too successful as a tablet because it undermines its ability to be a successful loss-leader. Considering the CPU, screen, memory (flash and ram), battery and wireless controller I'd estimate the COGS comes in around $170 per unit, add in fabrication costs for the mainboard and housing and distribution/quality control and the NC is a low-margin or possibly negative-margin product. BN is counting on accessory and book sales to make a real profit on these devices, which is why they are probably not going to be too mod-friendly going forward.
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If, what you are saying is true, they would still get accessory sales and the amount of book sales would not change. Those who buy eBooks would still buy them and those that don't...won't. I also highly doubt they sell these units at a loss. Small profit margin sure, loss...no. So any sales will still be good sales.

mthe0ry said:
A problem arises (and likely this is the reason for the apprehension by BN in releasing an "app store") if the NC becomes too successful as a tablet because it undermines its ability to be a successful loss-leader. Considering the CPU, screen, memory (flash and ram), battery and wireless controller I'd estimate the COGS comes in around $170 per unit, add in fabrication costs for the mainboard and housing and distribution/quality control and the NC is a low-margin or possibly negative-margin product. BN is counting on accessory and book sales to make a real profit on these devices, which is why they are probably not going to be too mod-friendly going forward.
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This is only a problem with rooted nook tablets, though. A stock Nook tablet that has to go through the Nook App store still produces sales revenue for Barnes and Noble.

I've heard they do sell them at a loss. They sell them at a loss with the idea that people who have them will buy ebooks which are basically pure profit. There is no cost in warehousing ebooks, no cost in printing them, minimal cost in changing them from print to digital and minimal cost in delivery. It's been rumored for a while that Amazon would be giving a free Kindle to all their Prime customers just because people who own e-readers buy more books than those who don't and they are better off financially selling their e-readers at a loss and making up for it with the nearly pure profit they get off ebooks.

dsf3g said:
This is only a problem with rooted nook tablets, though. A stock Nook tablet that has to go through the Nook App store still produces sales revenue for Barnes and Noble.
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That is what I am thinking too. If they make them attractive enough as a tablet for Joe Public, he will not be as tempted to root them which means they are running the B&N store exclusively. I think it is a good strategy especially since in my opinion the stock UI is very nice for what it does and with the addition of flash and other features, they have a winner. We nerds don't count because we are going to root it (but some of us are loyal to B&N anyway).
I don't know much about the publishing business but maybe there is also some advantage to just selling a bajillion of these things even at cost. Barnes and Noble cannot get by if they are just going to copy Kindle. They needed to make a bold move, which they did and their stock has been rebounding.

The overhead in ebooks is server space, bandwidth and the big one being copyright licensing to the publishers. It is definitely not pure profit.

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The overhead in ebooks is server space, bandwidth and the big one being copyright licensing to the publishers. It is definitely not pure profit.
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And all of that is next to nothing compared to the cost of print media. You're going to have licensing either way so that's a wash. Server space and bandwidth is negligible. An Ebook is nothing more than a few hundred kb. I would bet that a RAID array with just a TB or two of space could store every ebook on Amazon.
Edit: I'm at home on call so I'm bored so I did the math. Amazon claims to have 1.8 million pre-1923 books that are out of copyright plus 850,000 other books. Now, I rounded up allowing for growth and settled on a number of 3 million books. Even at 1 mb a book (which is really pretty big for an ebook), you would need ~2.9 TB of storage space for the entire Amazon library. Amazon can easily afford a series of NAS' holding that much space. Heck, you or I could buy a NAS of that size for a few hundred bucks.

Let's keep in mind a truism of production that the more you buy (make) the less you pay for what it's made of. Now unless the buyers at B&N are absolute morons (and I do doubt they are) the more NC's they order constructed the price to B&N should well drop! Thus increasing the margin of profit while keeping the current price point.

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Let's keep in mind a truism of production that the more you buy (make) the less you pay for what it's made of. Now unless the buyers at B&N are absolute morons (and I do doubt they are) the more NC's they order constructed the price to B&N should well drop! Thus increasing the margin of profit while keeping the current price point.
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I have a rooted NC would would love to see Froyo and Flash on the NC supported by BN. However, the arguments are basically the guys in the business "suits" vs the "geeks". Even if the NC are sold at a small profits, the "suits" on Wall St would not like that. The suits want profit margin.
My guess is that the mid-April update will be less than what this forum expects. I do hope I am wrong.

A. Nonymous said:
This is really an inaccurate story. Stock NC already has email and a web browser on it. All they're really adding is the BN app store. There's no word yet on how many games/apps will be available. The update will bring Flash and the BN app store. It's not going to unlock it as a tablet the way rooting currently does.
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Can someone point to a BN press release indicating Flash? Even the HSN website (which I don't trust) doesn't mention Flash. I am trying to find supporting evidence of Flash.
http://electronics.hsn.com/nook-col...ablet-with-wi-fi-and-ebooks_p-6392436_xp.aspx

I was told by a sales rep that there would be an update with flash support this year. Of course we all know a sales rep will say anything to make a sale. Personally I ignored about everything be said as I walked in knowing I was putting froyo on it.
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New Nook Color May 24th?

According to Engadget B&N (from SEC 8-K form) will be releasing a new Nook on May 24th. Anyone know anything you must tell me, I have to know!!!

Oh noes, not more Nook rumors!!! B&N is slowly turning to Apple.
Seriously, I haven't heard, but that means less than nothing.

when you file it with the Securities and Exchange Commission, rumor is really not the appropriate word.

This is just a guess, but I would bet it is a larger eReader similar to the Kindle DX. I mean really the Nook Color, for what it is designed for, is already hardware overkill, (I mean seriously...its an eReader regardless of what we are doing with it) so even IF its a new color model it will probably be less powerful than the current model to keep the price low.
Anyway...in summary...I'm thinking 10" Nook. Probably eInk.

ExploreMN said:
This is just a guess, but I would bet it is a larger eReader similar to the Kindle DX. I mean really the Nook Color, for what it is designed for, is already hardware overkill, (I mean seriously...its an eReader regardless of what we are doing with it) so even IF its a new color model it will probably be less powerful than the current model to keep the price low.
Anyway...in summary...I'm thinking 10" Nook. Probably eInk.
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I agree with this. I am sorry, but people, the nook color only really hit stores in November.. in no way is it ready for replacement.
Now, I CAN believe that the original nook could be getting a replacement. Not everyone want an LCD eReader, and the classic nook is old enough that it is a due for a replacement.

I'm pretty sure they just launched a new ad campaign for the current NC. It'd be odd to be coming out with an updated model at the moment.

Divine_Madcat said:
... the nook color ... in no way is it ready for replacement.
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B&N first needs to see what Amazon will do with their color reader anyway.
BTW thanks for resurrecting HC for Nook.

Divine_Madcat said:
I agree with this. I am sorry, but people, the nook color only really hit stores in November.. in no way is it ready for replacement.
Now, I CAN believe that the original nook could be getting a replacement. Not everyone want an LCD eReader, and the classic nook is old enough that it is a due for a replacement.
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Ditto
My Nook 3G isn't the greatest e-ink reader - good but not great. I'd swap it for a Sony reader if I had money to burn. I was wondering when they would release a new e-ink Nook.

Perhaps it might be a 3G Nook Color?
although I'm leaning towards it being a new e-ink version of the somewhat out-dated nook.
We shall all wait and see

Just about everyone has been selling the original nooks (e-ink version, new and refurbished) at seriously discounted prices over the last few months. I believe B&N has been trying to clear out their stock in preparation for a replacement to the original nook.

picopir8 said:
Just about everyone has been selling the original nooks (e-ink version, new and refurbished) at seriously discounted prices over the last few months. I believe B&N has been trying to clear out their stock in preparation for a replacement to the original nook.
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Absolutely. Sub $100 everywhere.
*maybe* we get a color e-ink Nook based on Mirasol tech or something. Would be great for comic books and kid's books. That's about the best we can expect.

I'm betting on a 10" NC.

new Nook?
Hope so.. I think now that B&N have an apps store for their current NC, I think they want to go the whole hog like amazon..
Thankfully I just put my NookColor order on hold

asantaga said:
Hope so.. I think now that B&N have an apps store for their current NC, I think they want to go the whole hog like amazon..
Thankfully I just put my NookColor order on hold
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You are silly if you think it is in any way a Nook Color replacement. And I really don't see them bringing out a 10" either...

ringbolo said:
According to Engadget B&N (from SEC 8-K form) will be releasing a new Nook on May 24th. Anyone know anything you must tell me, I have to know!!!
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B&N filed a form 8-K which states:
"In a meeting with investor analysts on May 4, 2011, Barnes & Noble, Inc. (the "Company") indicated it expects to make an announcement on May 24, 2011 regarding the launch of a new eReader device."
An announcement regarding a launch is not the same thing as a release of something new.
Most of you know much more of the technology behind this than I ever will, but from a business standpoint it's unlikely that this new eReader would be an upgrade to the NC. Based on what I do know, it's more than likely an upgrade to the Nook Classic with e-ink pearl at a lower price point.

Well since there is only a 14 day return policy and I bought mine last saturday, I guess I am taking mine back this weekend and will wait for the announcment.

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Well since there is only a 14 day return policy and I bought mine last saturday, I guess I am taking mine back this weekend and will wait for the announcment.
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Really...? You are really going to return a new, working device, on the possibility that they are replacing it, despite the fact that the device is barely 6 months old, has just received a major software update(froyo and new kernel), and still has no serious equal competition?
Or ignore the fact that the classic nook has been going on clearance all across the US, including online, and that it is the classic nook, not the color, that is due for replacement?
What a sad waste of good hardware..

If the 24 May release is not what I want I will re-buy the NC since I like it. But If the new device is better then I am stuck with an outdated device and $250 because of the 14 day policy. It is the cost of the company doing business, I am sure it will be one of their manufacture refurb units on ebay for $225 in a few days.

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If the 24 May release is not what I want I will re-buy the NC since I like it. But If the new device is better then I am stuck with an outdated device and $250 because of the 14 day policy. It is the cost of the company doing business, I am sure it will be one of their manufacture refurb units on ebay for $225 in a few days.
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I know this sounds horrible but now I'm secretly hoping that the update is an unrootable NookColor that immediately replaces all existing stock. Good luck!

I don't see the big deal. The company makes the rules of 14 days. I play within their rules.

(Outdated) If a New Nook Color comes out May 24 will you trade up?

Just curious to see how many people would "trade-up" to the newer model *if* (very small chance I know) B&N announces tomorrow that they're releasing a faster and more full featured tablet/reader.
I'm of two minds about it, if it ends up being a new NC (which I doubt myself) that is better than the current NC, it'll probably cost $50-100 more, in which case why not just get one of the dedicated tablets out on the market? (Or wait for Amazon's quad core Hollywood tablet..)
What do you think?

I would wait for Hollywood, hell even Coyote. I don't really have money to just throw around myself, so even if they did release a newer Nook Color, I doubt it would be a big enough difference in performance or features to make me go buy it tomorrow.
In fact, with the possibility of Hollywood being only $450 at launch and from amazon (who you know is going to go out of their way to make sure they have plenty in stock) I may not even trade up to the Iconia or Transformer this fall like I had wanted to.
Which kind of sucks since the wife wants a Nook color now. (Was going to give her mine...)

Supposedly (PCMag article) Amazon "might" be pricing the 7-inch Coyote tablet a $349 and the 9.7-inch Hollywood tablet at $449 (assuming lowest storage price). If Amazon throws in free 3G for apps downloads I'm sold (doubt it though since their cloud computing mp3/streaming video would end up costing them a pretty penny with free 3G).

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Supposedly (PCMag article) Amazon "might" be pricing the 7-inch Coyote tablet a $349 and the 9.7-inch Hollywood tablet at $449 (assuming lowest storage price). If Amazon throws in free 3G for apps downloads I'm sold (doubt it though since their cloud computing mp3/streaming video would end up costing them a pretty penny with free 3G).
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You wouldn't jump on a tegra 4 tablet for $449 unless it has free 3g?

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You wouldn't jump on a tegra 4 tablet for $449 unless it has free 3g?
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I'm trying not to spend *too* much money this year but....
The niece and nephew have been clamoring to inherit the Nook anyway, this year's a good time as any.

The new Nook!
Not a tablet - but a touch based e-reader:
http://news.cnet.com/tipster-new-nook-is-the-simple-touch-reader/8301-17938_105-20065525-1.html

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Not a tablet - but a touch based e-reader:
http://news.cnet.com/tipster-new-nook-is-the-simple-touch-reader/8301-17938_105-20065525-1.html
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its a cheap tablet, only cost 169$, so cheap that it must have cut down many hardware inside it.

Very nice, I'm very pro supporting BN so if their new reader has decent battery life, I'll probably buy it over the kindle in the near future.

Engadget just posted that B&N are now selling the old Nooks for $99 on eBay.

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Engadget just posted that B&N are now selling the old Nooks for $99 on eBay.
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Just saw this as well.
Still rocking the Incredible with the XDA Premium App.

And the new Nook is a $139 touch enabled eReader - so...no Color as many of us predicted.

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Very nice, I'm very pro supporting BN so if their new reader has decent battery life, I'll probably buy it over the kindle in the near future.
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The engadget article states 2 months on a charge.

here is the article about the new nook:
***.engadget.com/2011/05/24/barnes-and-noble-announces-new-nook/

Doesn't sound like it has a lot to recommend it compared to nc, but we can still spend a few days speculating if it will boot from SD card... perhaps there are some applications where a "paperback" android device would be useful, especially if the disaffected sell them lightly used in the $100 range.

Press release says nook color now $169 list. Time for a second one to play with!
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20065678-264.html
EDIT: Went to the blog of the news conference and the reporter was wrong. NC is not lowered in list price! It is the 3g version of the old original nook that is $169. Bummer.
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leapinlar said:
Press release says nook color now $169 list. Time for a second one to play with!
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20065678-264.html
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Correction, the original nook 3g is now 169. nook color is unchanged.

Touch screen e-ink? 80% less flashing (supposedly)? sd card? I'm sold. I wonder how long it takes to get it hacked and someone throw as a browser on there. e-ink touchscreen browser, even if just black and white, aounds very intriguing to me. Especially if it's better than the kindle's experimental browser.

this also assumes bn didn't take the hint from the first nc and locks the thing down like a bunker. Not to say there are some great devs out there but it would severley limit progress. This comming from a droid 2. Locked bootloaders =

I'd stay where i'm at right now. Working on saving money for a true tablet, but i like my NC as it is with HC now.

Why trade up? The Nook Color does everything I need it to do... IN COLOR. Running CM7 or phiremod is the icing on the cake...

$250 Amazon Tablet?

This article says Amazon will be entering the tablet market with a $250 tab. Although I can't tell you how reliable the source is. I thought I would just post this here and see what you guys think.
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yeah, lower pricing and ice cream, is going to hurt apple's ipad

All depends on specs.

I'm interested if it's a 10" and lighter than the NOOKcolor. Willing to pay no more than $400. After playing with the 10' Galaxy Tab the NOOK is indeed too heavy.

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I'm interested if it's a 10" and lighter than the NOOKcolor. Willing to pay no more than $400. After playing with the 10' Galaxy Tab the NOOK is indeed too heavy.
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No microSD slot on any device is a no-go for me though.

"Analyst" is business speak for bull**** artist. Which is about as much credence as I lend to this article.

As cell carriers like verizon and AT&T continue to restrict and impact cloud content models like IPAD and IPhone with their data rate restrictions and higher data cost, a Amazon tablet could become even more viable as a competitor using pre-purchased stored content vs. cloud content. Go Amazon....

.........with the hopes of getting their money back with sales from the Amazon app store. It is expected that they could recoup the loss from each tablet within 6 months and make a profit of 10 to 30 percent per tablet over the next 18 months.
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And therein lies the rub. B&N turned a blind eye when developers started rooting it to take advantage of the Android Market. Why? Maybe because they were more interested in selling books than apps. How many here with a Nook Color have the Nook Reader Android app and still buy books from B&N?I know I do and now my wife shares them with me on her NC. I also have the Kindle app but I have yet to buy a book from Amazon. They are pretty much the same price so why should I give my book money to Amazon when B&N has been so good about the whole thing?

I've read an article from somewhere, indicated that Samsung will release their 2nd-gen 7.0" tablet with 1280x720 TFT screen running either HC3.2 or ICS. Don't know the price though.