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[Q] Any idea when Nook Color II will appear?

I am really close to buying a Nook Color, but with my luck an updated model will be available shortly after. I would be willing to wait a couple of months if a new one was on the horizon.
Then again, I could get one now, then give it to my g/f when a new one comes out.

i doubt it, ive heard nothing about a new model, in fact why would they release a new one? this one does everything they would want the device to do. maybe they would do something about the handful of design flaws.. but it does not appear to have created enough buzz to warrant a redesign. Not to mention the fact that this one is rather new to the market.

I wouldn't expect a nook color 2 for some time, if at all. B&N is hurting pretty bad as a company (read: hemorrhaging money). I know they struck gold Jerry with the original nook (~30% market share for e-readers), but that still doesn't change the fact that B&N can't close stores fast enough.
B&N put out an ultra-fancy e-reader, one that is vastly over-qualified for what they wanted it to do, so there's lots of room for them to grow into as they release updates. As far as we know, the nook color (hardware wise) can handle both Froyo and Gingerbread with ease, and by the looks of it HoneyComb as well. Also, it was about a year inbetween the two nooks being released, so I would count on almost 1.5-2 years before we start hearing rummors.
I say, get one while you have the cash.

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I'm pretty sure that B&N is going to shift their goals to building out their Development platform before planning new hardware. Besides, they aren't making their margin on these Nooks, but rather setting up a somewhat razor/refill market that will (hopefully) get people into stores and more interested in their eBooks.
They might NOT be on top of the stack right now, but I'd go to B&N before setting foot in a Borders...

cameraz said:
I am really close to buying a Nook Color, but with my luck an updated model will be available shortly after. I would be willing to wait a couple of months if a new one was on the horizon.
Then again, I could get one now, then give it to my g/f when a new one comes out.
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I'm sorry but by this logic... why buy anything tech based? I don't need to think about buying the Iphone 4, I know that 5 will be out soon. Shortly after that 6, so on and so forth.
You need to read less what HACKERS are doing, and more what people SHOULD be doing with a Nookcolor. In the E-Reader market, the nookcolor is the top of the line model. When you look at other E-Readers many people rather have E-Ink (or its at least a common complaint), Currently a real "Nook Color" base doesn't exist. A lot of the features are not fully formed, and completely designed. Many Magazines, do not appear on the market. Even a lot of the actual "E-Reader" aspects are not all there, but lets move past this.
For there to be a "NookColor 2" there needs to be a reason to justify a better version. Unlike Apple B&N cant really afford to do an upgrade like the 3g to 3gs. The screen is very high grade, theres no real lag reading, the E-Reader programs are way better than the default one, backlit, color, etc. The most an upgrade would have would be more a redesign, theres nothing else it needs that it doesn't already have. Things like more memory would fall short, 5 gigs is more than enough for the core function, and buying a memory card is not that much of a hassle.

I agree, no upgrade coming this year. Feel free to buy!

woot1524 said:
I wouldn't expect a nook color 2 for some time, if at all. B&N is hurting pretty bad as a company (read: hemorrhaging money). I know they struck gold Jerry with the original nook (~30% market share for e-readers), but that still doesn't change the fact that B&N can't close stores fast enough.
B&N put out an ultra-fancy e-reader, one that is vastly over-qualified for what they wanted it to do, so there's lots of room for them to grow into as they release updates. As far as we know, the nook color (hardware wise) can handle both Froyo and Gingerbread with ease, and by the looks of it HoneyComb as well. Also, it was about a year inbetween the two nooks being released, so I would count on almost 1.5-2 years before we start hearing rummors.
I say, get one while you have the cash.
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Are you sure bn is not doing well and not mixing bn and borders up...i know borders is not doing well

franknferter said:
Are you sure bn is not doing well and not mixing bn and borders up...i know borders is not doing well
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Check out this link, it's a wiki for investers: http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Barnes_&_Noble_(BKS)
Now go down to "business growth."
B&N is, for a lack of a better term, bleeding money at an unsustainable rate.
Hell, they lost over $40 Million in just the last half of 2010. That's more than they made in the entire year of 2010. And on top of that, they earned HALF of what they made in 2009. Their operating margin(% of the difference between cost and retail of products sold that can go towards profit, or return on sales) fell from 2.8% to 1.3%(BTW that's god-awfull)
Even with their sales increasing nearly by double digits quarter after quarter. They make so little(% wise) that the increase of sales is overshadowed by the increase of costs assosiated with selling more of something.
So, pretty much half of the company just breaks even. The other half either losses money, or losses LOTS of money.
Don't be surprised if B&N doesn't survive long enough to honor our 1yr warrenties.
The real question is. Who's going to buy them? And, will the nook product line survive the transfer of ownership?
Edit: added comment about increasing sales.

Admiralvic said:
I'm sorry but by this logic... why buy anything tech based? I don't need to think about buying the Iphone 4, I know that 5 will be out soon. Shortly after that 6, so on and so forth.
... For there to be a "NookColor 2" there needs to be a reason to justify a better version. Unlike Apple B&N cant really afford to do an upgrade like the 3g to 3gs.
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Actually, I am not the type of person to sit back and wait for the latest version to come out, unless it has been some time since the original came out. Also, even if a new version comes out it has to be a big enough change for me to buy it. For instance, I bought the first generation iPod Touch, but didn't spring for the subsequent Gen. 2 or 3 because they were only minor upgrades, in my opinion. But when Gen. 4 came out, I upgraded.
The Nook has been out since last fall, I believe, and I remember reading on some tech site (CNET, maybe?) that this spring a new Nook Color would appear with 3g. I would only get this, however, if the 3g was free like on the Kindle.
In any event, where would you guys be more likely to purchase a Nook Color -- at an online retailer, or go directly to your local B&N store?

Aww that is news is bad for BN...my three stores always have people in them and two of them I always have to wait in line...unless I am there at odd hours
If I can buy locally for almost the same price...I will always buy locally. Now if I could have obtained the nook for $200 online...you bet I would have gone online! I think most "e-reader" people would prefer to go to a physical store than buy online...but look at the success of the Kindle...
Another aspect my stores are pushing are the Nook Color classes or meeting to share tips and tricks and how toos on the NC. While these dont apply to me...I would imagine they would appeal to the mass users of the NC.

Nook Color and Best Buy

Has anyone bought their Nook from Best Buy? I found out that is where mine was purchased from based on the serial number after calling 1-800-THE-BOOK. At any rate, without a receipt B&N doesn't want to warranty the dead pixel issue. I'm just curious, does Best Buy put the serial number on the receipt like B&N does?

When i bought mine it looked like they scanned it again after they did the UPC. Pretty sure it was the SN.

Suck-age. The overseas help I got, barely wanted any real information from me, which is why I assumed you would have a similar situation. Granted they did run me around in quite a few circles before agreeing to do so.

Drag...I guess I saved $50 but have to live with a dead pixel.
So for all those other threads asking about "what should I look for when buying a NC off Craigslist" I guess this is your answer! LOL

ExploreMN said:
Drag...I guess I saved $50 but have to live with a dead pixel.
So for all those other threads asking about "what should I look for when buying a NC off Craigslist" I guess this is your answer! LOL
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As much as I love the Nook Color, in a year or so, I'm sure there will be something competitive in price that is better. And by that point I'm sure you can sell the nook for a decent price still. As unlike mainstream tablets that can be phased out, the only way the nook will be, is if they release a Nook 3.
So there will still be people unaware of it's tablet capabilities looking for a used one for reading.

Well, I'll probably just keep it as-is. I mean its 1 pixel that you can only see on a black screen and it shows as blue. You can't even see it on other colored screens.
It's more of that "I know its there so it bugs me" kind of thing than an actual issue. I'm just a cry baby. I want perfection at a great price.

ExploreMN said:
Well, I'll probably just keep it as-is. I mean its 1 pixel that you can only see on a black screen and it shows as blue. You can't even see it on other colored screens.
It's more of that "I know its there so it bugs me" kind of thing than an actual issue. I'm just a cry baby. I want perfection at a great price.
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Ah me too man, me too ) :
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That's the reason I paid full retail for mine from best buy. ****, I even paid the extra 60 bucks for the additional protection, which covers stuff like broken screens.

I bought mine from best buy (didn't really want to) and when I had screen issues B&N replaced it without even asking me where I bought it. It's strange that they're giving you the run-around, the NC isn't even a year old at this point regardless of where you bought it.

ExploreMN said:
Has anyone bought their Nook from Best Buy? I found out that is where mine was purchased from based on the serial number after calling 1-800-THE-BOOK. At any rate, without a receipt B&N doesn't want to warranty the dead pixel issue. I'm just curious, does Best Buy put the serial number on the receipt like B&N does?
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Best Buy does NOT put the SN on the receipt. They can, however look up the receipt easily. Do you know who bought it for you and around what time? They can look it up by phone number. Also, check to see if it has anything with "GSBTP" or "GSBTP-R" on it if you get it. This means whoever bought it also purchased a Geek Squad Black Tie Protection Plan. On the other hand, even if you don't have one, if it is still within the first year of purchase, Geek Squad will ship it to B&N for you and it will be fixed as long as its determined that the problem is user error. Unless they follow the weird monitor policy for broken pixels. There has to be at least 5 I think. The only downside is that depending on the store, location of the manufacturer and the time you send it out, it could take a good while. When I was a Geek Squad Agent I told people it could take anywhere from 2-6 weeks.
Oh, they can also look up the purchase via the card it was purchased with if it was bought with one at all.

Wow... I also got a dead pixel on screen from a Best Buy bought NC. I did purchase it online though, as no stores around town had them in stock for 2 weeks. Ah well, I'm not going through the runaround just to fix one dead pixel.

In many cases Best Buy can exchange the smaller less expensive devices in-store under the manufacturers warranty due to defects and even preserve any Best Buy service plan. They likely will just give store credit for it during the first year, though in rare circumstances may have it repaired. It is certainly worth a try to do that, a dead pixel on an e-reader would be annoying.

Your serial number is located under the sd card flap or under device settings.
Barnes and Noble wont honor exchanges or returns in BN stores for items purchased at affiliate stores. If you bought it from a legitimate partner then you can get it serviced under the warranty from BN but you have to call the customer service number for a replacement.
It stops people from calling in service on stolen units.

Squaretrade sells extended warranties within 90 days of purchase. I'd recommend that if you fall into that window. I haven't got mine warranteed yet but plan to.
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Well, I think there is some confusion. I bought this off of someone from Craigslist. So there is no bill of sale, etc.
However, in talking with B&N, they are going to give me a 1 year warranty after confirming it was sold at Best Buy (as opposed to stolen, whatever).
The back story is that the seller got it as a gift from work but didn't want/need it as she has an iPad. So it was new and unopened when I got it.
Anyway, all is good and I have a warranty confirmed until May 2, 2012.
I'm still not going to send it in though. I mean I hardly notice the 1 pixel and its not worth all the trouble to restore B&N's software and all that jazz. Especially since I used one of my Teamviewer licenses to register this device as a corporate device (you only get 10 moves before they start to question it, and this is technically the second move). BUT....if any more pixels go out, then I will use the warranty.

[Q] Best place to buy NC?

Hey guys,
First off, are you happy with your NC?
This would mainly be used as a reader/web browser/app games for the wife, so I'm thinking she would really enjoy it.
Also, what's the best place to grab a NC? I haven't seen them less than $249.
Thanks!!!

I just got one from bestbuy. Its still $250 but you get a $25 gift card too.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Barnes+...1218266244893&skuId=1517163&st=nook&cp=1&lp=1

You likely won't find them any less expensive than $249 at any legitimate retailer or etailer. Perhaps there will be another BN eBay special like last month some time in the future ($200ish). The suggestion that yurkinator made is probably going to be the best legitimate deal currently going (as long as you can stomach shopping at BestBuy).
Beyond that, I wouldn't buy one from an average eBayer or via Craigslist. It's just too sketchy... You have no idea what the history is with the unit and if it has any latent flaws. If you get it privately, warranty repairs will be more of a hassle since you won't have the original receipt. I bought my first one from Wally World; the microSD slot wouldn't retain the card. Took it right back to Wally World, got a refund. Bought a new one. No fuss, no muss...
Is saving, say, $50 worth the potential headaches?

Thanks for the responses and I completely agree with you about not buying one off craigslist or ebay. I'm going to jump on best buy deal since I can't find any staples coupons.
Can't wait to tear into this thing!
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I got lucky and B&N was having a promotional sale on ebay about 2 months ago and I got 2 NC for 200 bucks each. I would keep an eye out they may do it again.

Since no one else mentioned it I'll toss out that my girlfriend loves her NookColor. I initially bought it so I'd have something to play around with and she'd have something to read on from time to time. After about a week it became clear that she was never actually going to let the thing out of her grasp and so I was forced to buy my own. Not sure if this helps but I have my girlfriend's running the stock OS and nootered while mine is running CM7. Since she does read allot she likes the tight integration of the Barnes and Nobel stuff on her home screen but can't imagine a world without Fruit Ninja, Bubble Buster or any of the Angry Birds.

I'll put in a plug here for buying it in a Barnes & Noble store. That's what I did, and the biggest reason was that if I had any issues I wanted to be able to walk into the store and resolve them. If I were going to buy at Best Buy (something of a circus at the least) I'd make sure I could do a warranty exchange at a B&N brick and mortar store. I also did something I don't normally do and bought the B&N extended warranty -- which covers the thing even if you drop it into the tub. Oh yeah, I love the thing -- got stock 1.2 and CM7 overclocked running off a SD card. Use it with a bluetooth portable keyboard and Documents to Go -- and I've read a ton of books on it.

Appreciate all the responses.
It's going to be mainly my wife's device to read, browse, game on, so as much as I want to get into it and throw CM7 + Honeycomb on it, I might wait a bit to see how she uses it.
I'm going to pick it up this afternoon and give it to her tomorrow as her b-day present.

toosurreal01 said:
Appreciate all the responses.
It's going to be mainly my wife's device to read, browse, game on, so as much as I want to get into it and throw CM7 + Honeycomb on it, I might wait a bit to see how she uses it.
I'm going to pick it up this afternoon and give it to her tomorrow as her b-day present.
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Nice birthday present, way to go!
I've not yet been disappointed... Frustrated, yes. Disappointed, no.
robedney said:
I'll put in a plug here for buying it in a Barnes & Noble store. That's what I did, and the biggest reason was that if I had any issues I wanted to be able to walk into the store and resolve them. If I were going to buy at Best Buy (something of a circus at the least) I'd make sure I could do a warranty exchange at a B&N brick and mortar store.
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Y'know, you make an excellent point. If you're going to pay full retail anyway, why not just go to the source for the reason you mention.
Personally, I went to Wally World because I bought during the early February nook drought. Nowhere in the greater South Bay Area (CA) had these in stock except for one WalMart in Salinas, CA.

robedney said:
I'll put in a plug here for buying it in a Barnes & Noble store. That's what I did, and the biggest reason was that if I had any issues I wanted to be able to walk into the store and resolve them. If I were going to buy at Best Buy (something of a circus at the least) I'd make sure I could do a warranty exchange at a B&N brick and mortar store. I also did something I don't normally do and bought the B&N extended warranty -- which covers the thing even if you drop it into the tub. Oh yeah, I love the thing -- got stock 1.2 and CM7 overclocked running off a SD card. Use it with a bluetooth portable keyboard and Documents to Go -- and I've read a ton of books on it.
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Bought two from the mother ship, about three months apart after getting my wife one for Christmas and nootering it, I needed one for me!). For hers, I bought the B&N warranty, but for mine, I went with squaretrade. $50 for 2 years vs, $40 for 3 years.

nook color for $179 at Overstock

Overstock has the refurb nook color with 1 year man. warranty for $179 today.
http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Nook-Color-by-Barnes-Noble-Certified-Pre-Owned/5924200/product.html

Great deal! See this post for an extra $10 off via Buy.com: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220388

all these deals make me feel like something new is coming
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koopakid08 said:
all these deals make me feel like something new is coming
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I think this is a run to get as many out as possible before Amazon releases a tablet.

patruns said:
I think this is a run to get as many out as possible before Amazon releases a tablet.
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thats my vote.

Are you guys wrongly comparing Brand-new NC vs. Refurbished NC?
Amazon tablet has nothing to do with those price-dropping NOOKC.
If the brand-new NC is dropping price then it's legitimate to say because of the impact of the Amazon tablet, this is not, this is refurbished, people.

votinh said:
Are you guys wrongly comparing Brand-new NC vs. Refurbished NC?
Amazon tablet has nothing to do with those price-dropping NOOKC.
If the brand-new NC is dropping price then it's legitimate to say because of the impact of the Amazon tablet, this is not, this is refurbished, people.
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I have 2 that do not look at all to be anything but new. I suspect that B&N is flooding the market and you may get new or refurb. Have you ever seen any tech gizmo that was this popular and had this many refurbs floating around? Unless you have some solid inside info from either Amazon or B&N I take your advice as simply an opinion.

votinh said:
Are you guys wrongly comparing Brand-new NC vs. Refurbished NC?
Amazon tablet has nothing to do with those price-dropping NOOKC.
If the brand-new NC is dropping price then it's legitimate to say because of the impact of the Amazon tablet, this is not, this is refurbished, people.
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the nook color price hasnt dropped, its been $249 for a while now
the nook color refurbished price has dropped, from $225 to $169.
the reason for the glut of refurbs? no idea/opinion.
is B&N reselling refurbished NC's for cheaper and cheaper, an attempt at saturating the channel before amazon releases their tablet(s)? perhaps.
i got mine about a month or two ago for $189 from b&n through ebay; so could read books, comics, study, and do light surfing (reading the tech news). i only got it b/c i could root it, which i did via microSD card and run android/CM7. my wife has been "borrowing" it during the day to read books while at work (she is a nanny). she also will be "borrowing" it to read books when she stays home with our first child, in the fall. she finds being able to read a book with one hand and turn the page with a finger MUCH easier, especially when holding a baby. she loves the quality of the screen and is getting used to the touch screen interface.
will any other tablet de-throne the NC for the sub $200-250 tablet market segment - only time will tell. competition is a good thing for all consumers. i look forward to new tablets, but i will probably stick with my $250 investment (NC, 16gb microSD card, silicon cover, screen protector, neoprene bag) for at least 1-2 years unless anyone comes out with a tablet that is as fast as my workstation/desktop for surfing for approx. $250, which will probably happen in 1-2 years at the rate we are currently moving. that, or the battery fails to maintain a charge after doing 50% drain every day. The question is, will tablets hit the metaphorical wall, as we did with computers and the current 3-4ghz processor "cap"? only time will tell.

[Q] Reselling a Nexus 6.

So i'm thinking about selling my nexus 6 on a facebook community buy/sell.
I usually give my devices to my family, but its not needed this time so i'm after some opinions on how much i should be asking for.
The phone is 3-4 months old, i lost the reciept recently but its around somewhere... 32GB, bought outright, so unlocked from any network, in perfect working condition. etc, there's just like maybe, 5 to 6 tiny little dints in the screen from keys in pocket :/. You literally cannot feel them, nor see them when the screen is on and takes certain angles to see them when screen is off (thats the only thing wrong with the phone, which i plan on telling on my post). I paid $876 AUD, do you think i could ask for $400-$500?
Opinions? If you were going to resell, what circumstances would you lower the price for & if you were i, how much would you ask for?

amazon is selling the n6 brand new at 399 for the 32gb version, so your $400-500 would be considered a joke, especially a device with a little bit of damage.

@rhystagram,
Your best bet is to go to Swappa.com and look at recent sold prices.

cam30era said:
@rhystagram,
Your best bet is to go to Swappa.com and look at recent sold prices.
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good though

please note its in AUD and i'm in Australia, most retail stores still sell at same price as my purchase, as does google store.

rhystagram said:
So i'm thinking about selling my nexus 6 on a facebook community buy/sell.
I usually give my devices to my family, but its not needed this time so i'm after some opinions on how much i should be asking for.
The phone is 3-4 months old, i lost the reciept recently but its around somewhere... 32GB, bought outright, so unlocked from any network, in perfect working condition. etc, there's just like maybe, 5 to 6 tiny little dints in the screen from keys in pocket :/. You literally cannot feel them, nor see them when the screen is on and takes certain angles to see them when screen is off (thats the only thing wrong with the phone, which i plan on telling on my post). I paid $876 AUD, do you think i could ask for $400-$500?
Opinions? If you were going to resell, what circumstances would you lower the price for & if you were i, how much would you ask for?
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For safety's sake, have a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3104504

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points completely missed.

rhystagram said:
please note its in AUD and i'm in Australia, most retail stores still sell at same price as my purchase, as does google store.
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But Amazon is still selling it for much cheaper brand new. Most prospective buyers will look on Amazon first to see what prices are for both new and used.
What local retailers sell them for brand new means nothing when it can easily be attained somewhere else for a cheaper price.
I normally give people hell on those Facebook groups for asking entirely too much for a phone or tablet. Especially if it is used with even the slightest damage.
For instance, a woman was trying to sell a Droid Maxx for almost $400 USD claiming it was new and never pulled from the box, but her pictures clearly showed otherwise because of the damage on the phone and the fact that it didn't have any of the factory protective film on it anymore. The device in mint condition used only goes for about $150.
Basically, it's better to be fair instead of thinking you can charge top dollar for it. Much less troubles in the long run.
Good luck.

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I'm sorry, but how is pointing out the proper process for preparing a Nexus 6 for resale completely missing the point? I'm trying to help you avoid future headaches. ???
If you're looking for resale prices, check completed listings on swappa or eBay.

graydiggy said:
But Amazon is still selling it for much cheaper brand new. Most prospective buyers will look on Amazon first to see what prices are for both new and used.
What local retailers sell them for brand new means nothing when it can easily be attained somewhere else for a cheaper price.
I normally give people hell on those Facebook groups for asking entirely too much for a phone or tablet. Especially if it is used with even the slightest damage.
For instance, a woman was trying to sell a Droid Maxx for almost $400 USD claiming it was new and never pulled from the box, but her pictures clearly showed otherwise because of the damage on the phone and the fact that it didn't have any of the factory protective film on it anymore. The device in mint condition used only goes for about $150.
Basically, it's better to be fair instead of thinking you can charge top dollar for it. Much less troubles in the long run.
Good luck.
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I agree with checking eBay or local buy/sell/trade sites for prices to get a feel for how much it will cost.
Note this, however: Amazon Australia does not sell the Nexus 6 that I can find. It is true that there was a Prime Day deal today in the states for it (pretty sure it's over now), but Prime Day is only for the US site, not for the international versions.
Plus $500 AUD is $368 ish USD.

Mate. Put it on Gumtree. You could likely get around 400 to 450 bucks for it if it is indeed in the condition you say.