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Hello,
I bought a brand new 'HTC - Kaiser' (precisely a 'HTC - TyTN II' directly from Orange in France), in order to replace my old 'HTC - Hermes'.
First, I was surprised not to see a GPS option in the 'Communication Manager'. As you can switch ON/OFF wifi or bluetooth, you should be able to switch ON/OFF the GPS, isn't it ?
Secondly, I installed Tomtom v6.032 on my PPC, but I could not get any signal at all. I went in the options, and tried with all GPS option devices, with no success.
With 'Built-in GPS receiver' and 'Other NMEA GPS receiver' options, I always have "No valid GPS signal !". Do I have to start GPS somewhere on my PPC before starting TomTom ?
Thirdly, I looked for help on xda-developers.com here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1735972&postcount=112
I followed his recommendations, I changed:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers\GPSOnePort]
"CommPort"="COM1:" (instead of: "COM0:")
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Multiplexer]
"DriverInterface"="COM0:" (instead of "COM4:"
And it after this I could have some signal. But then after shutting down Tomtom and reopen or after a soft reset, it does not work any more, at all ! What happens ? I don't understand.
Why my GPS just not work out of the box ?
Please help ! I switch to the Kaiser for the GPS feature, and it does not work :'(
I tried all my test outside with a clear weather, waiting for about 3 minutes each time.
it should work right out of the box.
for me (i have a tilt) gps is on com4. i use tomtom and you have to make sure the correct com port.
I could be wrong but I believe that in tomtom if you get the message "no valid GPS signal" that actually means every thing is set up correctly. you just need to wait, could take some time. tomtom starts the gps itself. watch the leds on the phone. when GPS is on the right LED will flash.
you may want to check out some other programs. tomtom does seem to take a little longer to get a fix in my opinion.
BTW check out my signature, you can use navizon and make some money once you get that gps working
There's no seperate GPS connection. The GPS just uses your data connection. If you can connect to 3G, then your GPS will also work. Try using Google Maps and clicking "Use GPS", leave your phone in one spot for a few minutes and see if you can get some sattelites that way.
As always, someome smarter can correct me if I'm wrong, but this is from my experience.
There is no way to "turn on" gps, programs access it when they need it, and it's off when they don't
Your first fix can take up to 45 minutes, although min eonly took about 5.
If you look in the extracted HTC cabs threads, you can find a program called "HTC GPS tool" Run this and select "clear memory" as the option, and that'll get a fix after a while. after that, After soft resets you should use "cold start", I think...
After this has fgot a fix you can use other programs on the COM4 channel.
Hope this helps
I have had my Tilt for about 2 months. Recently, I took a trip from L.A. to N.Y.C. As soon as I got to NYC, I ran QuickGPS, but was entirely unable to get GPS to work at all during the week I was there (queens, manhattan, roads, etc).
I posted an inquiry about backing up and hard resets. Rather than getting an answer to the question, I was given direction to make sure my GPS really didn't work.
That chain pushed me to GPS Test v1.04 by Chartcross. It is free, and can found on the web and on this forum. In NY I could not get a signal no matter what even running it.
When I landed in LA I ran it again ... it stayed at "Starting Up" for a while, but then miraculously started showing bars.
So --- I recommend that you (1) run Quick GPS, (2) install this program, and (3) let it run and run and run. Also make sure you are in an area where GPS is accessible.
It can take a very long time to get GPS to work on the tilt. Many times, it takes longer to find a signal than the trip you were hoping to TomTom through. Its the nature of the beast.
chris247 said:
I tried all my test outside with a clear weather, waiting for about 3 minutes each time.
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Yep, like all the others have said leave it fore longer. 3 mins isn't enough time. If after 30-45mins of being left in one place (no moving it around!) with a clear view of the sky for the first time and TomTom is still saying "No valid GPS signal" then start worrying...
Thank for your enthusiasm. I carefully read your post, here is want I discovered:
You mentionned about having a 3G data connection. First I was wondering why do you talked about that: this as nothing to do with GPS. Then I thought I should give it a try. Up to now, I haven't yet put my SIM card in my brand new 'HTC - Kaiser'. I didn't mention it in my 1st post, as I though it could not have a link with my GPS problem. I put the SIM card in the phone, then started Tomtom, I was surprised to see that a 3G data connection was automatically started, and a few seconds later, the GPS worked perfectly.
I can't believe it, I could not have the GPS working because there was no SIM card in my phone !
First I thought that the data connection was for retrieving Tomtom traffic info online, but then I discoved that even with 'HTC - GPS Tool v1.1.1.0', a 3G data connection is started prior to getting my localization.
I read about QuickGPS, and learnt that it is the thing that causes the 3G data connection to start prior to getting my localization.
Why is QuickGPS starting automatically ? Is QuickGPS compulsory for localization ? Can I stop this behavior and have everything running through GPS ?
Chris
MAYBE IF YOU TR THIS ONE
I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM AND IT WORKED FOR ME
JUST ASSIGN THE INCOMING PORT TO COM4, AND OUTGOING VIRTUAL COM5
http://www.plunder.com/GPSGate-download-37727.htm
GPS and 3G have nothing to do with each other. They are too completely different things.
GPS does not need 3G to function!
Some GPS programs (like google maps), do require a internet connection to download data, thats when 3G comes in (not necessary, could use wifi and gprs instead).
What is strange is that in Orange ROM (at least in France), a GPRS connection is made automatically each time you want to use your GPS. If the GPRS connection is NOT successful, you can not use the GPS (with tomtom, or any other testing GPS tool). How can I change this behavior ? I do not have an unlimited GPRS subscription !
chris247 said:
What is strange is that in Orange ROM (at least in France), a GPRS connection is made automatically each time you want to use your GPS. If the GPRS connection is NOT successful, you can not use the GPS (with tomtom, or any other testing GPS tool). How can I change this behavior ? I do not have an unlimited GPRS subscription !
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It's required GPRS connection because you might have selected tomtom plus services such as Traffic, Weather. Just to be sure, take out your SIM or turn off the radio to see what happen. BTW, flash a different ROM is another choice.
Did you installed Google Navigator as my Kaisers GPS unit stopped to work after i installed GN?
On Orange ROM (in France), everytime you want to get GPS, you first have to connect to the Internet. It is not link with TomTom Plus, because even with HTC GPS tool software, you need to let the phone automatically connect to the Orange network prior to getting your location with the GPS. If you do NOT have a SIM card and the possibility to connect online with your phone, you get NO GPS location.
Please, help
chris247 said:
On Orange ROM (in France), everytime you want to get GPS, you first have to connect to the Internet. It is not link with TomTom Plus, because even with HTC GPS tool software, you need to let the phone automatically connect to the Orange network prior to getting your location with the GPS. If you do NOT have a SIM card and the possibility to connect online with your phone, you get NO GPS location.
Please, help
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As NGHIEM said above, flash a new ROM and this behaviour will stop. Try Duttys or Schaps for best stability etc.
I am using an AT&T Tilt with Garmin Mobile XT and there is an option to turn off Internet Data (Traffic, weather, etc.) in Garmin. If I want to use the GPS with no radios on I have to disable the Internet Data option otherwise the program tries to make that connection first and never acquires a fix. That may be part of your problem. I also just tried the HTC GPS Tool with no SIM card in flight mode and it got a fix in under 2 minutes inside my house by a window. Garmin also started fine. The GPS is an independent receiver and should require no other data. It appears that some other program is starting along with the GPS and trying to access the Internet. Like others have said before you can probably solve your problem by flashing a new rom.
I think I have found the solution:
- In the registry change:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]
"EnableAGPS"=0 (instead of: 1)
Now everytime I use my GPS (with HTC GPS Tool, or Tomtom), the automatic GPRS connection is not started !
Please give your feedback about this.
Que_EN_Unlock_All_.zip file
Hi,
I am looking for this file to do the Garmin mobile XT installation. This file, Que_EN_Unlock_All_.zip, is not available at rapidshare.
Can you help please?
Regards.
Pieter
pvblomm said:
Hi,
I am looking for this file to do the Garmin mobile XT installation. This file, Que_EN_Unlock_All_.zip, is not available at rapidshare.
Can you help please?
Regards.
Pieter
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What is this file about ?
I've searched and searched but couldn't find it (only references to it in other ROMs). Could someone either please post the HTC GPS Tool.cab or point me in the right direction as to where I can find it?
I know it's in a couple of ROM releases, but I'm happy with what I have now and just want that file.
Thanks, guys!
EDIT: Nevermind, guys. I found it. Thanks!
No card is found
I have installed TomTom on my new Kaiser and downloaded the free citymap, but when I then run TomTom it says: No card is found. What am I doing wrong?
Hi guys,
After a few weeks of very limited usage of my Tilt GPS, one day I noted that any application was able to detect the GPS. After reading other posts I noted that the solution could be a hard-reset, which I did, however, even after trying several hard-resets and different radios and roms, my GPS is not being detected by GPS Test and GPS Viewer. However, I noted that when I select COM4 at 4800 kbps (disable scan and select a specific port), the GPS led flashes but I never get the GPS starting message (just a detecting GPS message). Any idea what could be wrong?... can the GPS be blocked or deactivated somehow?...
Any help would be appreciated!... Thanks!
couple things to make sure before returning your phone. When using HTC GPS tool, go into the satelite section and see if you at least picking up 1 satelite. Verify you are not inside a building and you are outside and you are giving it some time. Flash another rom and do these procedures again. If none of these work, then probably could be the phone. Good luck.
jfgarciamex said:
Hi guys,
After a few weeks of very limited usage of my Tilt GPS, one day I noted that any application was able to detect the GPS. After reading other posts I noted that the solution could be a hard-reset, which I did, however, even after trying several hard-resets and different radios and roms, my GPS is not being detected by GPS Test and GPS Viewer. However, I noted that when I select COM4 at 4800 kbps (disable scan and select a specific port), the GPS led flashes but I never get the GPS starting message (just a detecting GPS message). Any idea what could be wrong?... can the GPS be blocked or deactivated somehow?...
Any help would be appreciated!... Thanks!
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You need to be outside to get a satellite fix. It is almost impossible to get a satellite fix indoors. You also need QuickGPS (freeware) which updates the ephermeris info and lasts 6 days. This makes a satellite fix much quicker. Try that.
GPS antenna
The UART baud rate of the GPS port should be set on 57600. Probably the communication can be done at 4800 like the SIRF chinese module but try to put the correct baud rate and see if the handshake works more fast.
Since I use the phone mostly mobile in my car, I just got one antenna from this eBay seller.
This one have full 15 feet cable so I was able to clip on trunk cover, near the rear window. The antenna connector must be fully inserted in the phone enabling the path contact and at the first insertion you need to apply more force (as usual ).
The phone will sense the current flow by feeding the antenna LNA chip so there is no such thing of mechanical device to switch antennas (internal/external).
The sattelite signal almost double and sometimes up to 10 sats can easily be locked and fast.
GPS working again!!!!.... but how????
Guys,
I'm posting as just noticed something really weird, and to be honest I can not find why the GPS is working again. In my first post as I stated, the GPS was working fine (I have an unlocked tilt with HTC ROM). Then somehow, one day the GPS did not worked anymore (I used HTC GPS Tool, and as soon I opened the port, I did not got any messages at all, it just hang! and with GPS Test the GPS was never detected! - in both cases the GPS led flashed!). Now, after giving up with hard resets, going back to the original ROM, updating QuickGPS data, etc. just yesterday, when I on was meeting playing around went to GPS Test and voila GPS was detected again!!!!... and so far is working fine... I have no clue what fixed it! and, I'm wondering if it may had something to do with my carrier... any one has faced something similar?... any idea what happened?...
Hi, i just got my diamond and im playing around, everything seems to be working except for the GPS, now i searched my phone and i couldnt find an app dat shows me to connect to a sattelite or how to so i opened google maps and selected 'use GPS' , it says its searching but it isnt finding anything,
should i go outside or what do i have to do?
1- download QuickGPS data
2- do it manually in google map - com4 ---> 4800
if this not work
some diamond have a problem when you use the GPS for the first time after the upgrade
HARDRESET will solve it
For sure you need to go outside... no gps works well indoors.
Set google map's GPS settings to 'Set by Windows' (I've found gmaps is the only GPS app I use that doesn't like manual settings) and go sit outside in a nice open area, for at least ten minutes for a first ever fix.
Thank you both, i 'combined' your ideas and trieed them out and it worked thanks!
Hi I have a T-Mobile Compact IV (HTC Diamond I believe) and my GPS has just stopped working. It comes with CoPilot LIve 7 Trial and has been working fine until I bought the licence code for the full version.
Now it says there is 'No GPS Signal' when I run CoPilot. I have tried QuickGPS and Google Maps (both pre installed like CoPilot) and neither of thoses apps work either!
I have read that the GPS chicp could be locked? Anybody came accross this problem before or have a solution to this. I have emailed T-Mobile, HTC and the makers of CoPilot. Seems like nobody is interested in helping now that I have shelled out for a licence code.
Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
GPS chip cannot be "locked" out...forget that
There are a number of great threads relating to GPS issues exactly as you described (too numerous to list though...) suggest you have a quick search and move on from there...
I expect that you need to clear the embedded data (use HTC GPS Tool, and clear memory) and then be patient for a first fix.......confident this will work for you
i'd also recomend GPS Tool, its availible here.
Just download the .cab file and run it on your MDACIV
Thanks for the reply guys. I have downloaded and tried the HTC GPS tool and it doesn't seem to find anything. All I get is the error 'Failed to send NMEA command'.
I have just downloaded Google Maps and tested that with the GPS setting and it just sits there saying 'Seeking GPS Satelites (0)...' for ages.
I have also tried lots of the other suggestions in this forum but with no luck. Its almost as if there is no GPS built into this. The only things I have hope for is to hard reset the MDA or to update the ROM/Radio. Tried using the reg edit tool and adv config tool to see if any settings are causing a problem? Could it be the update to comapct farmework 3.5 or the settings for the IP phone?
Unfortunatly I have followed the instructions to hard reset the MDA but it just seems to soft reset, plus what will happen to my installation of CoPilot as it was pre-installed with the phone. I have a backup done with the Sprite Backup tool that came with the phone but will this restore programs if the device is reset?
And the ROMs are all for the HTC Diamond. Plus not too sure about invalidating my warranty with an update.
Really starting to think the GPS has just broke on me. Which is a bit odd since it hasn't been dropped or damaged etc...
Starting to get a bit frustrated as there doesn't seem to be a conclusive answer any where on the web and no supplier is getting back to me (wonder why...?)
OK...it lookslike you have a few more options now....
First thing is make a backup! Do this now and save it to Internal Storage.
A Hard reset appears to be the next option...its fiddely to organise, but it sounds like you need to get a "fresh" install. I would then only install the HTC GPS Tool and then try and find your GPS using standard setting as installed. If it cannot be found then perhaps you have an issue with the unit itself.
As for your co-pilot, surely you have the install cab or disc that came with the unit?
Right now you need to know:
i) Are just the settings screwed up, or
ii) Do I have a faulty unit.....
If it faulty you want to keep the original ROM for warranty purpose (so don't flash that........yet!)
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GPS is always OFF until the phone comes out of 'flight mode'. You can do this by activating at least one of the following (phone, BT, Wifi).
Some applications like Igo8 are able to access the GPS whilst the phone is in flight mode.
Other apps such as TT, GPS Tuner, BeelineGPS etc need the non-flight mode.
This can be set in the Comms Manager.
topspeclt said:
Hold on...
GPS is always OFF until the phone comes out of 'flight mode'. You can do this by activating at least one of the following (phone, BT, Wifi).
Other apps such as TT, GPS Tuner, BeelineGPS etc need the non-flight mode.
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Not as far I am aware. I can and have run TT6 with flight mode engaged - on a BA flight. It starts by saying flight mode engaged at the bottom left, but still finds the satelites (as long as you are next to the window).
And yes BA allow the use of GPS for flights except at take off and landing.
Thanks everyone for the replies.
But I took the plunge and dislocated my fingers to perform a hard reset. After the hard reset the phone automatically re-installed all the supplied apps (CoPilot, Google Maps etc...) and it worked fine.
Tried lots of suggestions and tools but this is the only thiong that has worked. I have read lots of conflicting posts about how the GPS can lock due to several apps attempting to use it while other say its due to the phone not having it enabled as default. And then others say it can't lock!
At the end of the day the GPS worked in the morning and then stopped in the afternoon after no fiddling with the phone. This makes me feel like it could happen again.
As I write this I have just had my first manufacturer response. Its from the makers of CoPilot. They have posted the following :
Please go to Start Menu | Settings | System / GPS
• At the bottom left hand corner of the screen please select Programs and change the GPS program port to COM 4.
• Select Hardware at the bottom left hand corner of the screen and make sure the GPS hardware port to be set to COM 3 and the Baud Rate to 4800.
• Finally at the bottom left hand corner of the screen Select Access and check if the box Manage GPS automatically is ticked.
• Also, please go into START | SETTINGS | CONNECTIONS | BEAM
Please ensure that the beam is unticked as this affects the GPS pickup.
• Also ensure that you do not have any other GPS program installed on the device as this could also affect the GPS setup in Copilot.
2. Launch CoPilot Live on your Pocket PC (Tap on ""Start --> CoPilot Live"")
a. In the ""GPS"" menu, tap ""Options"" and tap on ""Setup GPS""
b. Tap on ""Manual"" and in the ""GPS Com Port and Baud Rate"" section, select the COM port and Baud Rate as provided by your GPS manufacturer (Com 4, Baud Rate: 9600). If you do not know this information, tap the ""Automatic"", then tap ""Next"" and CoPilot Live will search all available ports for your receiver. Note: If you are using a Bluetooth GPS receiver, your Pocket PC's Bluetooth Manager must be aware of the device before CoPilot Live can detect it.
c. Tap ""OK"" at the top of the screen to close the GPS Options. Note: CoPilot will remember the GPS settings on exit, so you will only need to configure your GPS on the first use.
Would like to have tried this but I spent quite a bit of time messing with COM port setting et all... and nothing seemed to work. Ho hum.
Anyhoo, again thanks everybody from your help.
Andrew
I bought this hd7 a week ago from ebay seller. It is a t-mobile unlocked device.
My location services are turned on , but whenever i goto bing maps and search for my location, it keeps on searching but never shows me my location.
I have already done with following solutions i got from internet and htc call center.
1) Already flashed htc asia rom
2) Tried to search without sim card inserted
3)Tried to find my location in open skies
4)already turned on the location services
5)when i try other gps app like gmaps, it searches and gives error "The GPS data isn't available now". My 3g is also on, so there is no problem of downloading the maps.
I want to tell that i live in india, and i am using hotmail account with country : United states in order to use marketplace on my phone.
So, considering all above things, What could be the problem?
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hi,
Download an app in the market place named GPS (its free).. And run it.. it initializes the GPS signal.
I am using the HD7 T9292 T-mobile unlocked at Vietnam and i am doing fine with TA Maps, Bingle Maps, even Bing Maps works fine without info about roads at Vietnam .
Try to flash back to T-mobile 7004 rom and then get the update
By the way, you can unlock the phone after you flash back to 7004, and then search for the HTC GPS Test Tool Xap somewhere in xda forum to test your GPS.
pskale123 said:
I bought this hd7 a week ago from ebay seller. It is a t-mobile unlocked device.
My location services are turned on , but whenever i goto bing maps and search for my location, it keeps on searching but never shows me my location.
I have already done with following solutions i got from internet and htc call center.
1) Already flashed htc asia rom
2) Tried to search without sim card inserted
3)Tried to find my location in open skies
4)already turned on the location services
5)when i try other gps app like gmaps, it searches and gives error "The GPS data isn't available now". My 3g is also on, so there is no problem of downloading the maps.
I want to tell that i live in india, and i am using hotmail account with country : United states in order to use marketplace on my phone.
So, considering all above things, What could be the problem?
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same problem
Hello,
Was there a solution found for this problem. I am having the same problem on a brand new unlocked HD7 that I bought. Any solution would be very much appreciated
I'm not sure if this helps, but I had some issues with GPS on my HD7S (AT&T) and I calibrated the compass. It made a huge difference.
I would occasionally get the no data when trying to use GPS. I haven't had a problem since.
It usually takes some time for the GPS to start working, sometimes I need to use the GPS with a clear sky (no buildings around) to make it work properly.
Yea , I have the same problem
I am also outside US , with a T-Mobile HD7 (Egypt) ,also have the settings USA for Marketplace.
I managed to get A-GPS to work though , I'm not sure what I really did , but I think I installed the HTC Compass app , that made things work I guess
But A-GPS is totally inaccurate , hundreds of meters of error-margin !
If anyone had anyluck with that , please tell us
UPDATE: The above method made my GPS working , the problem was in the area I was trying the GPS in. once I got out of the buildings area , the GPS recieved the data nicely (not 100% uptime , but at down times it switches to A-GPS)
To find out in which GPS mode are you in ( full or A-GPS ) you will need to download a free tool called "GPSInfo" from the marketplace
The HD7 gps just seems to suck, or maybe we have bad luck.
Mine takes forever to search, and when it does search it is WAAAY OFF.
hopefully mango can fix my problems
Ok i'll jump on the band wagon.... I've had this issue forever really. The gps is a few blocks off in certain areas. In my house it was pretty decent one day (I was shocked!!) but normally it's off from day to day. It could be 3 blocks, 2 blocks... Right now in Manhattan, it's showing me 4 blocks off from where I am. I honestly just don't get it. Is it the hardware? Tried the compass, tried the GPS app.
Honestly, I just feel something has to be reset in the system
Ok weird. I figured out my problem. When I'm connected to WiFi and try to use the GPS its off by a few blocks. It jumps between two spots and never gets the right location. WiFi off and it pin points it exactly.
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THE SOULTION IS SIMPLE IF GPS ON YOUR HD7 IS NOT WORKING AT ALL.
- Go to Settings
- Go to Region & Language
- Change Region format to Language (your Country's name)
- Change System locale to Language (your Country's name)
I am in India and the GPS on my HD7 (O2 UK) did not work for 1 month. I tried many things but this worked at last.
I also downloaded 'Drive On' navigation app later and it provides Voice Navigation for free and works very accurately. Bing Maps and Gmaps are fast but have no voice.