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Really! Is it a must you root your phone?

I have been reading a lot about this rooting of the phone just so you can install a fix that will get rid of all the so-called Lag issue. Now, I really like to know why is it a MUST to be able to root your phone just to increase the speed of your phone? I do not get it. Are'rt the available programs in the market, to shut down unwanted programs down, sufficient? Like Task killer etc.
I am ordered my phone and hopefully will be getting it soon. But it worried me that the first thing I have to do is 'Root' my phone because of programs running in the background? Does not sound too logical to me.
Samsung is coming out with a new firmware or update next month, so is it really neccessary that I start messing up my phone for something that will be officially available to the public?
Is this lag on every single new Samsung Galaxy S phone on the market?

Is definitely NOT a must to root your phone! It depends from what you need!
New android devices this days, specially those who have a Snapdragon Cpu, I think they don't have ANY lag problems because they are superfast!!
And the purpose of the root is definitely NOT a multitasking problem or how many app they are running in the background....
I don't know about the Samsung in particular, but I think that you won't have any lag problem or whatever if you buy it...
Rooting your phone invalidate your warranty and could brick it, and since now you are "new" to the rooting experience (from what I understood), I recommend you to wait and see if you just like it with the official rom..
Just to make you understand what a root is... I have and HTC Hero and my CPU is a Qualcomm 525 mhz (pretty old ) and I wanted to give that extra power needed to use also new apps and updates from this days that otherwise I won't be able to use at their best with my old phone.
With the root gained I could overclock my CPU up to 730 mhz, use apps like "titanium backup" or "APP2SD", update my old 1.5 android to a new and superfast Froyo 2.2 that otherwise my Hero would never get, and basically customize my phone in many differents way.... understood?
I hope I helped you...

Thanks for the reply. I understand you clearly but haven't read the new Samsung Galaxy S many posts and that how majority of the folks are rooting because of lag issues, is what made me make this thread in the first place.
As mentioned in my first post I will be a new Samsung Galaxy S owner and was trying to prepare myself by reading many( and I do mean many) post about Samsung Galaxy S, just to get myself familiar with the phone through the eyes of other owners while I wait for my phone to arrive.
Most seem to be rooting their phones so they can install some lagfix. Well it seems whatever lag they are experiencing seems to have been all cured up after this wonderful lagfix. I just wanted to know if it was really necessary to start on this course, immediately after getting my new phone?

No.
Stock firmware isn't that awful.
Take into acount that in december Froyo going to come and some performance issues going to be solved.
Some people just love to get all the juice out of their device, just like with PCs and overclockers.
It's not must thing for everyone. Aspecially if you got no time for it or real need.
I rooted my device to add hebrew fonts for example. Never applied lag fix.

Thanks Mike. Good to hear it. Are there anything I should keep in mind, like programs that will be a necessity to my new phone?
BTW, I heard the SGS has a GPS issue that will be fixed with an update from Samsung.

Many ppl will recomend you some kind of task killers as the first must program...but I dont really think that is needed in android os (actually it can decrease performance).
So maybe the only must app is...Barcode Scanner to help you download all the other cool apps!
About the GPS problem, yes there seem to be some kind of a problem, but I never noticed anything that horrible. Maybe because I use GPS only once or twice a week, or maybe my geo location is blassed with multiple satelites, I really don't know.
If you going to relay on your SGS as main navigation device, maybe you should wait for froyo update to see whats fixed and what isn't.

Thanks Mike. No, I do not use GPS often so I can survive without to a point, maybe. Perhaps, maybe if I need to find a particular location while on foot, that I do find it handy. Otherwise I use a proper scale GPS system in my car.
So, I can wait for the Froyo update that s suppose to come next month.

My brother in law has an unrooted SGS running the stock Australian firmware. He still replaced the launcher with LauncherPro, which made his phone a little smoother. It's definitely still quite fast and usable.... just not as fast and usable as mine with the JM5 firmware and lag fix

Appreciate the input Jimmy. I think I'll wait until the Froyo update and GPS fix to be officially release and see how it behaves before making any major changes to my phone. As long as it does not stop me from enjoying all the benefits of the apps market and whatever enjoyment there is for this phone.

mike.sw said:
No.
Take into acount that in december Froyo going to come and some performance issues going to be solved.
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December? I thought it was going to be a LOT sooner (I thought September)..

You need to root your phone if you want to install the latest firmware.
If you are using any of the latest firmwares, you don't need to use Task Killer. Android is smart enough and able to manage resources without any problem.
I'm on JM2 firmware with lagfix. Blazing fast.
If you just bought your phone and didn't do anything with it, it's slow as hell.

cavinsoo said:
You need to root your phone if you want to install the latest firmware.
If you are using any of the latest firmwares, you don't need to use Task Killer. Android is smart enough and able to manage resources without any problem.
I'm on JM2 firmware with lagfix. Blazing fast.
If you just bought your phone and didn't do anything with it, it's slow as hell.
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Umm.. That's WRONG! Once again, ROOTING IS NOT REQUIRED TO CHANGE FIRMWARE OR INSTALL OTHER FIRMWARE!!! And I wish people would stop saying this..
That being said, you don't really need to do much these days. You possibly need to root for lagfixes (I've never used them though). I don't really care about the lag that much honestly. But unless you are messing with the operating system, there generally isn't any need to root. I am running an unrooted phone now, and it does everything I want. But each to their own...

andrewluecke said:
Umm.. That's WRONG! Once again, ROOTING IS NOT REQUIRED TO CHANGE FIRMWARE OR INSTALL OTHER FIRMWARE!!! And I wish people would stop saying this...
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That's exactly what I do not understand. Samsung makes a firmware that will be updated in the phone( without rooting). So why do people root to install a firmware?????
Can't the lagfix be install regardless? Didn't Sansung make the unofficial( or beta) firmware that you all are installing into your phones?

I'm waiting for my phone to come through but I'm not going to this as I'm not confident enough and I don't want to brick, btw when we get the phone should we charge it for 24hrs or use it till it dead and charge till its full and used till its dead and do this twice so the battery apparently gets better I read this in another post and was wondering what is better?
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sareen said:
I'm waiting for my phone to come through but I'm not going to this as I'm not confident enough and I don't want to brick, btw when we get the phone should we charge it for 24hrs or use it till it dead and charge till its full and used till its dead and do this twice so the battery apparently gets better I read this in another post and was wondering what is better?
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Like I said, I'm going to wait for the official Samsung Froyo update that is suppose to retify all the issues, both Lag and GPS.
As for the battery issue. I just started a thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7799467&postcount=1

cavinsoo said:
I'm on JM2 firmware with lagfix. Blazing fast.
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I'm on JM1 updated via KIES, not rooted or lagfixed and mine is "Blazing fast"

ebue said:
That's exactly what I do not understand. Samsung makes a firmware that will be updated in the phone( without rooting). So why do people root to install a firmware?????
Can't the lagfix be install regardless? Didn't Sansung make the unofficial( or beta) firmware that you all are installing into your phones?
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From what I can gather (im quite a newbie when it comes to rooting / firmware), most of the firmware listed on here and samsung-firmware.webs.com require your phone to be rooted.
They are not officially released from Samsung, but instead are beta firmware which has been leaked out to the community.
I myself am running official Samsung firmware which was released through Kies (Australian JG4 via Optus) and my phone is not rooted.
Please correct me if im wrong, as I am still quite new to the SGS

Well,
Galaxy S is a tools and like good tools, I like it to configured it to my liking.
I like to have reboot button on home screen rather than holding power buttons for 6 seconds.
I like to have adfree app, to get rid of all annoying adds.
I like to use lag-free fix to make it even faster.
I like to use autokills app to configured how galaxy s manage its memories.
I like to use MyBackupPro to backup my apps, when I am upgrading factory firmware through kies and not having to re-install all my applications one by one.
Considering that rooting is painless safe and reversible. I don't see the advantage of not rooting your phone.

kcharng said:
Well,
Galaxy S is a tools and like good tools, I like it to configured it to my liking.
I like to have reboot button on home screen rather than holding power buttons for 6 seconds.
I like to have adfree app, to get rid of all annoying adds.
I like to use lag-free fix to make it even faster.
I like to use autokills app to configured how galaxy s manage its memories.
I like to use MyBackupPro to backup my apps, when I am upgrading factory firmware through kies and not having to re-install all my applications one by one.
Considering that rooting is painless safe and reversible. I don't see the advantage of not rooting your phone.
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I guess that prettyuch sums it up But what happens when Samsung releases the new and official firmware that supposely does all that you have mentioned( I am assuming so); don't you have to go back to the original Firmware to be able to update to the new one?

ging3 said:
From what I can gather (im quite a newbie when it comes to rooting / firmware), most of the firmware listed on here and samsung-firmware.webs.com require your phone to be rooted.
They are not officially released from Samsung, but instead are beta firmware which has been leaked out to the community.
I myself am running official Samsung firmware which was released through Kies (Australian JG4 via Optus) and my phone is not rooted.
Please correct me if im wrong, as I am still quite new to the SGS
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Ok.. Clearly, there is a lot of wrong info out there.. Root access is not needed at all for running beta firmware.

[Q] Which Route for me... no pun intended!!

Hello, I am in need of a little help. I am a complete noob to android and have no idea really how the system works. I have a Samsung Galaxy S and have decided to root my phone for 2 reasons.. ap2sd and so I can install the lag fix. I have done a bit of reading and chosen the path I wish to take but would like some assurance and pointers. I am also unsure of: If I root my phone does this automatically mean that with a properly partitioned sd card that I can store apps 2 sd or do I still need to flash the handset with a new ROM and if so there I am stuck... I do not know where to begin with searching for the best ROM for me. Also I would like to know if after i've done this will the handset still be able to receive the official updates or will I just need to keep updating it myself!
Here is the rundown as far as i have got so far...
Samsung Galaxy S I9000/XXJF3 Updated!
All the programs for XP i need are downloaded (eg.net3.5/4, samsung drivers)
The root method I thought was best for me was that of TGA_Gunman
The lag fix I had chosen is by Chainfire
I have still to back up the original ROM with ClockWorkMod (Is this easy to do and if I need to use it will it bring me completely back to my original settings for warranty purposes, or is there other things I would need to do?)
Also could someone provide me with a link to the best noob proof SD partitioning method!!
Is there anything I'm missing here, or anything that could be done a better way!! Any and all pointers will be much appreciated....
P.s. I would be wanting to update to the official froyo update when it's available will this cause me problems and if so what must I do!
Thanks in advance
ANDROID NOOB

rooting the phone is safe, and it will not cause any damage to the phone.
but stuff that you install after you root your phone, or modifications and customization changes that you do, might brick the phone, is not done properly (that's the worse case scenario), normally it will just get stuck in a black screen, or endless loop.
All that can be easily fixed using the 3 button Recovery Mode, or 3 button Download mode as posted in the Wiki
I'll suggest you to try the phone rooted but stock with whatever firmware you choose to run.
use the "Lag Fix" only if you really feel the phone sloppy.
I've been using my phone from day one to now without the "Lag Fix" because i've not experience any lag at all.
However I do install Apps to the external SD card, as i want to keep my internal SD as free as possible.
the best link for the Lag Fix & SD card partitioning is the sticky here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251

AllGamer said:
rooting the phone is safe, and it will not cause any damage to the phone.
but stuff that you install after you root your phone, or modifications and customization changes that you do, might brick the phone, is not done properly (that's the worse case scenario), normally it will just get stuck in a black screen, or endless loop.
All that can be easily fixed using the 3 button Recovery Mode, or 3 button Download mode as posted in the Wiki
I'll suggest you to try the phone rooted but stock with whatever firmware you choose to run.
use the "Lag Fix" only if you really feel the phone sloppy.
I've been using my phone from day one to now without the "Lag Fix" because i've not experience any lag at all.
However I do install Apps to the external SD card, as i want to keep my internal SD as free as possible.
the best link for the Lag Fix & SD card partitioning is the sticky here
Thanks... I understand the risks. Bricked my windows omnia twice before I successfully managed to de-brand and update it!! lol... As to what you said about rooting it and staying with whatever firmware I choose? I wouldn't know which one to use. Normally I wouldnt bother with it all but the lag on my phone now is silly, 5sec pauses on black screens. I end up having to kill my inactive apps once or twice a day just to get some usability from it (which I'm not supposed to need to do)..... So with that in mind is there a firmware that is running better that XXJF3.... Also if flashing a new ROM will be more advantageous and easier I am willing to take that route. I had a look at the link you gave for the lag fix... but being honest I feel that is a bit much for me at this moment... there are many one click lag fixes out there that don't intimidate me so much, is there not a reliable one?... The reason the lag fix you posted scares me is that I dont really understand half of whats being said and am not to sure of the process (if i'm honest it's not explained simple enough for idiots like me) Also dont even know what a busybox is let alone have one, The one click options have them in the package. Sorry, I am so dumb and need the easy route!! LOL.... A Step by step dummies guide would be much appreciated.. LOL! But honestly The more I read the more it all confuses me.....
Anxiously waiting any help possible!!... if it's possible!
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hmm.. then i'll suggest the "one click lag fix v2" in the developers forum.
that's the easiest way to get it going.
for the I9000 version JM1 seems to be the most stable ROM

I ma be following this thread as I am a noob as well
Thanks to the patient experts here!!!
Cheers!

AllGamer said:
hmm.. then i'll suggest the "one click lag fix v2" in the developers forum.
that's the easiest way to get it going.
for the I9000 version JM1 seems to be the most stable ROM
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Read some more into the problems with the lag fixes and now see why you were trying to steer me away.... Still way to many bugs for my liking!! I think for now its best like you said to just root and flash a better firmware... But how do I do this, correct me if im wrong:
1. Root phone via TGA_Gunman method
2. Back up phone using clockworkmod
3. download new firmware from samsung firmwares
4. put downloaded firmware onto root folder of internal SD
5. shut down phone then put the phone into download mode (Using the 3 buttons)
6. select the update.... then wait it out!!
Am I missing anything ???
As I side point I called the european samsung office today to ask if there was going to be a fix for the lag in the next month, or is it just the GPS it's concerned with... Samsungs response.... "There wasnt a problem with lag on the phone as far as we knew... You're the first person to complain of it... It has to be a problem with your handset"... Needless to say the conversation went no futrther, or I'd have lost the plot! LOL...

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As I side point I called the european samsung office today to ask if there was going to be a fix for the lag in the next month, or is it just the GPS it's concerned with... Samsungs response.... "There wasnt a problem with lag on the phone as far as we knew... You're the first person to complain of it... It has to be a problem with your handset"... Needless to say the conversation went no further, or I'd have lost the plot! LOL...
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Holy stitch, what BS is that? FOR ME, THERE IS DEFINITELY LAGGING THE MOMENT I BROUGHT THIS PHONE (from music player to video player to switching between apps or even opening some apps though most of the times its just minimal).

spandsbab said:
Holy stitch, what BS is that? FOR ME, THERE IS DEFINITELY LAGGING THE MOMENT I BROUGHT THIS PHONE (from music player to video player to switching between apps or even opening some apps though most of the times its just minimal).
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Yeah I've had the same... The longer the phone is in use the slower mine gets... I'm not leaving apps in the background either... It seems as if it just piles and piles inactive apps into the memory then goes slow!! I cancel the inactive ones and It's fast for a while then BOOM!.. slow again, 5/10 screen lag! unreal they're sayin they know nothing! Just hoping that a new firmware will make it better as the lag fixes look way too buggy still! Good luck with yours.. let me know if you find out any better roots/routes to fix the dam thing!

i'll disagree with the lag
i'm still using the stock ROM on mine, and i don't experience the lags some people are having.
i can browse fast, switch apps fast, play audio/video fast, launch GPS app fast, and get a lock fast even when the car is moving on the road already
i do leave stuff like Fring running in the backgroup for my IM and video calls, meanwhile the music player plays via Bluetooth to the car Deck or BT headphones, and using GPS to check my route for speed, traffic jam, etc.
email is constantly syncing, set to auto sync every hour
if i want to check the weather it loads up instantly
using stock JH2 ROM

damdeviousduck said:
1. Root phone via TGA_Gunman method
2. Back up phone using clockworkmod
3. download new firmware from samsung firmwares
4. put downloaded firmware onto root folder of internal SD
5. shut down phone then put the phone into download mode (Using the 3 buttons)
6. select the update.... then wait it out!!
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As far as im aware you cant install a firmware using the update.zip method? this is more for custom roms and other modifications over the top of an already installed firmware?
you want to open up Odin3 and connect your phone ones in download mode, use this to flash the PDA file in your firmware pack

Using JG4. No lag. None zilch wham. I have seen the lag first hand at a local store.
I will not be installing a lag fix until I understand what they are doing so I don't be a tard (brick my phone).

AllGamer said:
i'll disagree with the lag
i'm still using the stock ROM on mine, and i don't experience the lags some people are having.
i can browse fast, switch apps fast, play audio/video fast, launch GPS app fast, and get a lock fast even when the car is moving on the road already
i do leave stuff like Fring running in the backgroup for my IM and video calls, meanwhile the music player plays via Bluetooth to the car Deck or BT headphones, and using GPS to check my route for speed, traffic jam, etc.
email is constantly syncing, set to auto sync every hour
if i want to check the weather it loads up instantly
using stock JH2 ROM
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Dont quite understand what you mean... "I'll disagree with the lag" you can't disagree with it it's there... whether you have problems with it or not MANY people do!!
sensi_ said:
As far as im aware you cant install a firmware using the update.zip method? this is more for custom roms and other modifications over the top of an already installed firmware?
you want to open up Odin3 and connect your phone ones in download mode, use this to flash the PDA file in your firmware pack
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I'm fine up to the point of flashing the formware could you or someone please explain in a bit more detail what ODIN3 is, how it works and what i'm gonna need and what I need to do!! Sorry to be asking so much, but better I ask and get it right than ask for more help on how to unbrick my phone ...LOL
Is it an android program or somethin I put on my PC... also is there anything I would need to do to the phone other than the root!!
EDIT: Why o why do I need to use odin3... From what i'e read all that does is send it back to original settings and firmware... WHICH I HAVE!! I have not even rooted the phone yet, I am gathering enough info before I even begin!!
So back to the point in hand.... I will root my phone back up the ROM with clockworkmod!!
After this I am stuck as to how I flash it with a different firmware one that is more stable and maybe not having issues with lag!!
Which firmware should I pick and how do I get it flashed onto the device!
PLEASE HELP! I need to try something to get rid of this lag it's unbearable! I'm now wondering if there maybe is something wrong with the handset as the lag is really not to be expected 10secs to switch an app... and i've only added bout 15 apps so its not as if I'm expecting alot from the thing!

before you go all the way and do all those Mod to make the phone faster
lets try something more simple and safer to get rid of that LAG problem (10 sec is definitely too much)
go to the phone dial pad
and dial this number
*2767*3855#
Then give us an update if the phone goes back to normal speed.

AllGamer said:
before you go all the way and do all those Mod to make the phone faster
lets try something more simple and safer to get rid of that LAG problem (10 sec is definitely too much)
go to the phone dial pad
and dial this number
*2767*3855#
Then give us an update if the phone goes back to normal speed.
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did that played with the phone a little a began to see the lag creep up on me again (I am beginning to think this is a problem with memory more than anything, it just keeps loading inactive apps into the memory till it's full) .... Ran quadrant and had a score of 856 although this means not alot to me... what is the norm... and why does that seem slow.... it is after all a 1ghz processor.....
awaiting any ideas/responses.... maybe I am just being too fussy!!!
While i'm still thinking bout what to do... Anybody got any thoughts on the APK ryanZA has released on the market place.. one click root and lagfix!! some comments that it does nothing and some sayin its runnin quadrant scores over 2k....
IS IT ONLY FOR CAPTIVATE/VIBRANT or will it work with european models???????

if it's slow like 10 sec lag even on stock.... i'll definitely return the phone to exchange for another unit.
it should respond immediately, like in 1 sec

AllGamer said:
if it's slow like 10 sec lag even on stock.... i'll definitely return the phone to exchange for another unit.
it should respond immediately, like in 1 sec
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As I say it doesnt start laggy... it just gets that way after a while of using it!! 'is it then to do with the apps i'm using but them the system manager says its all inactive programs using the space... why does it load so many in!

I have just decided to root and lag fix using Ryans' oneclick apk from the market place... Has worked a treat... Am just waiting for the official JM1 update for mine... Kies wont update my version for now.. Anyway wait and see, got a feeling froyo will be out before they sort out the kies update here! If all else fails wait for the official froyo release and apply it myself with odin!...
thanks for the help!

question for you.
did you install any software that will log your activities?
i just recently installed a network logging app, to see how much 3G /2G/GPRS data i'm using, and i noticed the seldom lags
as soon as i uninstalled that particular software, the stock JH2 ROM runs fast as usual again.
i still have all kind of other apps running in the background like IM, fring, and many other online stuff running continously without any lag

AllGamer said:
question for you.
did you install any software that will log your activities?
i just recently installed a network logging app, to see how much 3G /2G/GPRS data i'm using, and i noticed the seldom lags
as soon as i uninstalled that particular software, the stock JH2 ROM runs fast as usual again.
i still have all kind of other apps running in the background like IM, fring, and many other online stuff running continously without any lag
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Nope I was getting lag sometimes on a virtually clean handset with only 4 apps installed and the weren't apps that logging any activities at all... think maybe was bad firmware... had re-installation of system today at a samsung repair centre.. see how things go for now!! thanks though...

[SOLVED] All of a sudden I get horrible battery drain.

I am running the stock V10c ROM with 0405 Baseband and root.
Until recently I had little to complain about, but since last Saturday my phone has a horrible battery drain.
It turns off within 6 hours after I unplugged it even tho I did not use it and it was sitting calm in my pocket. This happend for the third time now since Saturday.
I was suspecting the recently installed Vlingo or Google+ Apps, but after removing them I still have the same issue. I recalibrated the battery yesterday but the Phone turned off again today.
I recharged it just now and it got incredibly hot like it has never been before.... this is very strange.
Anyone else experiencing something similar?
Have there been any recently updated Apps that are said to cause battery problems (Google Maps got a recent Update...)?
Any suggestions?
(I hope that damn OTA update comes soon and fixes this otherwise I'll have to update it manually or will have to install a custom ROM.)
EDIT
I flashed MoDaCo's MCR Fr19 and the Problem is gone.
I guess a factory reset would have solved my problem as well, but since I had all the work with backing up and restoring anyway I have chosen to go with a nice custom ROM.
Everything works like a charm again!

I used to get horrible battery drain, and generally the battery stats would have a mind of their own and change at random..... sometimes a phone restart would fix this, sometimes not. This was the biggest problem I had with the phone, but by no means the only problem.
I was always on stock, but since flashing the newest Modaco ROM (FR19) I've not had a single problem, the phone actually works as the piece of high-tech gadgetry I expected it to in the beginning. It's been nearly 2 weeks since switching to a custom ROM, and finally I'm loving this phone. I was reluctant to do it earlier as I waiting for the official LG updates, but after all their tardiness I decided enough was enough and went Modaco.
My advice: if you're unhappy with the phone as it is, try at the very least 1 custom ROM (both Modaco and Cyanogen are popular) and see if it improves your experience.

I have this problem too sometime
Only solution is to turn off the phone and turn and everything become normal
But after sime day if use same happens again. I suspect there is a program start to run in bg non stop
Btw i am in fear edition 12.2
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Ermmm.... correct me if im wrong, but to my knowledge v10c roms uses 622 RIL.. which has a 622 basebnd too.. why are still on 405 baseband? I really recommend 622 baseband as its the least power hungry baseband I've used since 405, but then again, some other factors might affect ur battery too.. but alot of ppl give positive comments on 622 baseband
.. shld give it a try.
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Thanks for your replies!
@Crofteh
I am generally a big fan of custom ROMs and always used one on my last android phone, but I liked the stock LG ROM enough to keep it until Gingerbread would arrive. I hoped to test official LG GB without wiping and then upgrade to a GB build of MoDaCo or CM.
That is what I thought, but who knows how long LG will still need for GB.
@Netuser
Thanks, I also suspect some App to uselessly run non stop as the phone feels warm near the camera, which indicated SoC load.
@tablights
I have the unbranded German version which came with a V10b ROM and a baseband number I forgot. After updating via the LG PC tool it changed to V10c and 0405 Baseband. Since that there was no official Baseband update for my phone. As far as I know, the German Vodafone branded phones got the 622 Baseband in last weeks update.
I will try to manually update to V10e via KDZ updater since it apparently does not wipe in the procedure.
Should the issue still persist I'll give MDC r19 a try.

I think the best bet to avoid the heating problem is to remove the micro SD card. Or try another one not greater than 8G. Don't use 16G or 32G - less costly for you if it burns out.

How is that related to the SD card? My 16GB card worked flawlessly all the time.

Same here
Hi,
I had exactly the same Problem, Phone got incredibly hot, was always warm even in airplane mode and died after 5h in stand-by. I tried all Basebands, different ROMs, reseted the battery stats several times, tried charging and uncharging several times. I logged the battery usage and got it down to maybe 20mA which should give me something like 75h in standby, still the phone shut off after 5-6h. I didn't use a SD-Card so it had nothing to do with that and it didn't change with different Software so i'm sorry to report: it may be a hardware problem. Either the battery broke or the handset itself didn't survive the temperature and is now draining (you could try another battery).
I sent my in and DHL lost the packet so no more Info from my side
btw, i also had the german version bought at Amazon.
Good luck finding the Problem !

I hope it won't be necessary to send it in. At the moment I am trying to rule out all possible causes. I signed out from the google labs project that lets you download parts of maps, since I activated that shortly before the problems begun and I could imagine that constantly downloading maps could cause high battery drain.
I have no time to do a custom ROM install including all backup and restore stuff atm as I am busy writing my diploma thesis for the next two weeks. But I will try that if nothing else helps. If that does not help, I will send it back.
Did you get an replacement or a refund?
If you got a replacement, does it have any issues like backlight bleeding ?
If you got a refund, did they pay the price you bought it for or the price it costs now? Cause there is a steep difference in price from then to now.

Juice Defender?
I had the problem and the problem is solved after I install juice defender.

I'm still in the process of getting a refund.
I think they will pay what i payed. But it is exhausting getting them to do anything and while i do that I'm back to my good old and terribly slow G1

Good luck with that!
Would be nice if you could let me know how this was resolved so that I can decide what is the best way to go should things not get better.
Thanks!

I no longer love gingerbread men lol please help!

Hi Guys and Gals
Hoping someone can help meor point me to somewhere/one who can please
Recently picked up an i9000 which is on the orange network and was running:
PDA: i9000bvjm5
PHONE: i9000bvjm1
CSC: i9000orajm3
everything worked just fine, i was getting tons of battery life out of it in idle, until i noticed that when i had 'anti-shake' ticked in the camera mode, it wouldnt allow me to adjust the exposure, so i contacted samsung and they told me that upgrading my firmware to 2.3.3 via Kies would solve the problem, i promptly did so and yes, it fixed the problem (hurrah!)
HOWEVER!
i now have a much larger issue with my phone in that before updating the firmware it would eat about 5% of my battery in 24hrs if not in use
Now i need to charge this thing twice a day minimum even when im not using it!!! aaaaaaaarrrggghhh!
i've shut off all unneccessary services like background data etc etc etc still no help, digging into the battery stats themselves tells me its the android OS thats eating 78% of my battery, while its idling! WTF! previous to this it was the display that ate the battery, but it cant be that when the displays off can it!
How on earth can i get back to my original firmware (eclair) or update to a newer version where this problem is fixed please?
i am a bit of a nob/noob at this so please try to K.I.S.S.
I cant live like this!!!! lol
will a factory data reset do the trick? or doesn't that affect the firmware?
Any help greatly appreciated
Yours in desperation x
Dan

If you google "Android OS bug" you'll see that this is a common problem. You said you upgraded to 2.3.3, but I believe they didn't correct this issue until 2.3.5—although I may be wrong about that.
You can update to whatever firmware you want by flashing your phone. This will void your warranty. Likewise, you can flash back to 2.2 if you so please. You can flash your device using a program called Odin or Heimdall. Search for tutorials, you'll find plenty.
As for the actual bug, in my times of testing a ROM that was susceptable to the Android OS bug, I usually just restarted my phone and saw it go away. Clearing the cache may help as well, but I really couldn't say for sure. Try a simple reboot and see if the problem persists.

big props upichie!
i had exhaustively googled this problem before troubling you guys but it appears i was using the wrong words, doh!
alas im still none the wiser ( all the guides i can find 'assume' i know too much already about their terms for things and im lost
i turn my phone off, within 5 minutes of restarting it the OS is once again draining my battery completely
i clear my cache every 5 minutes and within 2 minutes its flippin eating me again
is odin or heindall another thing i install onto my pc (not my phone?) like kies to revert back to the old firmware? eclair 2.1 i had nailed! if it aint broke dont fix it, why dont i listen to myself!
and why the funk would they release a firmware that does this in the first place?
my head is spinning with the retardedness of all this, i come from a background where testing things exhaustively is part of the job, so i cant for the life of me understand why they would launch with something that sucks sooo bad!
im also at a slight disadvantage because i have the orange firmware and slightly different settings to most who have eclair, i think
jesus wept i just dont know anymore lol i think ill just throw the thing in the bin and go back to my old sony w810i cos that lasted 7 days on battery!
funk this firmware, funk this nonsense and funk this 12 hrs battery drain when not even using it, what a funkin palava!!!!
oh and funk you too samsung for telling me to upgrade my firmware you funkers!!!!!
im going to cry now lol

No worries! We've all been there. The terminology is confusing, but once you get a good grasp of it, you realize how simple it is to know what you need to know. I'm here to help.
Odin and Heimdall are programs for your PC, although I don't believe either need to be installed (they're just standalone executables). They both are programs designed to flash a new firmware onto your phone. You simply download the firmware files (for Odin it comes in 1 to 3 files, but Heimdall if I recall correctly only uses 1 file) and then use the program to flash the new firmware.
Just so you're aware, if your Android OS is showing a high percentage, that percentage will not go away until you fully recharge the phone, as it would keep the record of the Android OS previously draining your battery.
I'm honestly not entirely sure how to help you. You could download the app called BettterBatteryStats and do some digging to find out what is causing your phone to not be able to enter/maintain deep sleep (otherwise known as a "wakelock"), but you sound slightly inexperienced and probably wouldn't be thrilled with that idea.
Alternatively, is there any option in Kies to downgrade to 2.1 again? Maybe contact Samsung and see what they have to say. You upgraded from 2.1 to 2.3 because of their suggestion, and now your phone is getting unusable battery life. It only seems logical they'd have a way to downgrade.
If you have any questions about terminology, how things work, or anything at all related to your i9000, please do not hesitate to ask! We're here to help in any way that we can.

Try to flash xxjvt with semaphore 1.8.2 kernel. If i not use my i9000 just for calls/maild and music my battery lasts 2 days with 3g and wifi on.
Try to wipe your battery stats after a full charge.
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New to custom roms

So i have never done anything like this before but i have gotten to a stage where i wish to do something to keep this phone going or replace it. Basically a lot of new apps and things need a higher version of android to work that i wish to use mostly 4.4 and above it seems to cover most stuff although higher version will increase its life time for longer so higher versions might be considered. i am pretty sure when i last tried to update the phone software it pretty much crashed and didn't work or got stuck and after leaving it on overnight it was still stuck so i gave up might need to recheck this.
I am also reading over everything in the fact and trying to understand the jargon used and if installing a custom rom is even right for me and just a few questions i have so far and will try to follow up best i can.
So i take it when i install a new rom i will lose all the current data on my phone sort of like formatting on a pc? so i will have to go through and save what i wish off the phone and then re-add it into the phone after a new rom is installed?.
what does v10X or v20A mean and how can i find what mine is? all i can tell its something to do with the android version but i am not to sure exactly.
Information about my phone:
Lg 4x hd (lg-p880)
Android version 4.1.2
kernel version 3.1.10
Purchased from kogan.com.au it defaults to GMT+8:00 taipei standard time after powering off which is very annoying i believe to be Hong Kong stock from memory since the phone was never officially came out in Australia. Has a few apps that i was unable to remove using basic phone interface i turned the updates for them off although it still pops up every now and then some how, would like these removed.
Thanks for any help provided in advance.