Hey guys i just wanna know if a custom rom for our X8 can go lighter than 80Mbs..
Example.. Froyobread is around 91Mbs.. GingerDX also.. but X10i roms can go til 72Mbs.. i just wanna know if its possible with our X8
I think it's possible but no one has built one yet..
I had 111mb free ram with stable 2.2 rom by lizypen
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I am just curious.. why there are so many asking for ROMS with more free RAM? Why do you want to have always lots of free RAM?
You should be worried about how to better use your RAM than be worried about not using it.
It is really strange but I never saw something like this when people are always askin for more free RAM just to never use it.
Nothing beats Stock Rom .. however one can use task killers app to free up some ram though..
We need free ram for smoothness, anyway,i can.t. ask for more,the newer version of rom,the less ram we will have.
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We need free ram for smoothness, anyway,i can.t. ask for more,the newer version of rom,the less ram we will have.
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That is not necessary true. Less free RAM not always implies slugginesh. android is based on Linux, and Linux have a RAM administration model wich tries to always use the free RAM. Per example if you load all your aplications ans system and you have 100MB RAM free then android will try to use that memory for fetching app data, increase storage cache, etc. All this to do a smart usage of the available resources... think a little, why do you want to have extra RAM just to leave it unused?
If an application needs more RAM then android will free the necessary ammount of RAM, unloading fetch and cache data and preloaded apps.
Well it's true,but why devs has created supercharger script or let's take the juwe's script.This got to be a reason for that.
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er guys.. i'm asking about the size of the ROM itself.. there's nothing about RAM here...
Well, it's easy to make a smaller ROM. Most ROMs nowadays include several extra apps (Google Apps, Keyboard, Calculator, etc...) for many user.
Just delete all Google Apps (Maps, street view, ...) and other unused apps, you will have a lighter one.
i've deleted many unused apps from the rom.. i managed to lower it to 85mbs.. x8 doesn't have much in terms of internal mem.. but i gues thats what app2sd is for.. is it recommended to store my apps in sd card instead?
Yes,i do that too.
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I got 67mb with the miniCM7 after delete a load of stuff ill never use
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I dont know i if this is a problem but i got only around 150mb avalible ram all the time.. Is that normal or shouldnt i have about 338mb ram with the speedmod kernal? Tanks in advance.
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Not a problem...
Unused ram is wasted ram.
Are you talking about total available RAM (including used and free RAM), or just RAM that isn't occupied by running processes (free RAM)?
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First of all let us know what ROM do you use.
Is it Simply Honey? If so, go to ext4 application and run 'Convert to ext4'.
Have you had a look inside the phones case sometimes the ram hides itself under the battery .
jje
Running:
Firmware: 2.3.4
Kernal: 2.6.35.7 hardcore speedmod 300hz
Cwm:2.5.1.0
Have encountered an excessive ram
problem even after clearing ram using task
manager, i am using autostarts aswell to
reduce but no,luck, i am at a loss, wether it
could be the galaxy running 2.3.4 i don't
know, any help would be much appreciated.
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Do you have excessive ram or the other way around (less free ram than you're expecting) ?
And more than that .. don't you think you should share some real values with us?
For example, (I'm running GB JVP 2.3.4) when I'm bootong I'm getting about 130MB of free ram and in the normal usage the free ram reported by the system is ~80-100MB.
Currently in task manager sits around 250 280 lb of ram even after killing off apps. Im at a loss, thinking of just flashing darkys
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you are fine .. this is the gingerbread behavior from what I know.
Ram is running all the time.Linux maked use of holding things in ram incase the application is used again. Anything in ram doesn't make the system slower, unless you are into precise control and into milliseconds of time-saving.
Adrian.
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Thought it might have been gingerbread, I might flash back to a 2.2 early Rom
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As I said before: Ram is there and powered up. Anything in ram does not use power because it it is used already by the ram.
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Alright but I've noticed that the more ram that's in use the slower my phone is.
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I've just fashed lite'nin 3.0 and I have no problems. 538 megs of ram is being used and the phone is not slow. I have noticed that some apps can cause a slow or stuttering phone. I have tried a lot of custom roms, Insanity, miui, stock on my sg1, cognition, darky's, stock and litenin on sgs2.
I'm keeping with litenin as I find it to be very stable, good battery and I have found no bugs.
Perhaps you could find out if an app is causing slowness? I have 271 apps and all run ok. Palmary weather caused problems so it's gone. Are you using any cpu frequency apps?
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How much ram can i free?the best i got is around 67mb.how much you got?
from my x8 and every latest **** on it.
i got maximum of 102 mb
How?tell me
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Reboot, kill all
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Im using fast reboot,ram scipt,and everything but i cant go over 70 mb.how much did you free?
from my x8 and every latest **** on it.
Highest is 80-85, but normal is 45-55
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Im using fast reboot,ram scipt,and everything but i cant go over 70 mb.how much did you free?
from my x8 and every latest **** on it.
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What about your obsession about free ram??? I got about 25mb free and all is running smooth as baby's ass...
But if you want to benchmark... it's an another story..(afeter I boot I got about 70 MB) for other apps... including that some non system apps are running on startup, like tapatalk.
If you want really check, after reboot force close your apps... dont use task killers..
Yo man chill out,i want to free ram nothing more.and yea,its about benchmark.although i get a really good score,it isnt enough.
I have 30MB free, and it's smooth !
i got 115.. how? uninstall all bloat apps.. download Supermanager free from market, enable root function.
enable auto-cleanup, enable clean system process, set memory threshold to 90mb..
then at homescreen enable Supermanager widget..
reboot, click on the widget and voila!
i got 102 mb on froyobread 023 by using fast reboot and auto killer app but android doesnt need too much ram to run smoothly
In the original rom the maximum i had was 90MB of Free Ram
In MiniCm6 it was the same
In FroyoBread i had 88MB of Free Ram
And now i only have 70MB of Free Ram on GingerDX, and my phone is slow now. I use the Super Task Killer app to kill some system apps but i can only get about 70MB of free ram. I think i will go back to the MiniCm6, or maybe try MiniCM7 and do some manualy bug fixes.
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Yo man chill out,i want to free ram nothing more.and yea,its about benchmark.although i get a really good score,it isnt enough.
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Read again. Force close apps from Settings/Applications/ Manage/
running tab
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Above 80 w/ GingerDX007. Without Task Killers/Managers.
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I dont use gingerDX anymore.minicm is much faster.
You can also use this
Which kernel should i choose ??
i use DjangoManouche 1.5 now
i have a total of 330mb ram only
any good idea i can do
I believe you have 330 mb because the rest up to 512 mb is reserved for system apps. So you can use root explorer and go to /system/app and remove some system apps you don't use and reboot the phone. Just be careful not to touch stuff that is required for the phone to boot. And no, I don't know exactly which these apps are. But here is a tip: I always remove gallery, news and weather, all google apps, music player, stock email, navigation software if there is any, live wallpappers, file explorer (not before getting another though) and everything that's about visualization in general. These things are safe to remove.
And btw the amount of free ram is pretty much irrelevant to the phone's work because the kernel tries to utilize as much ram as possible and then it gives it away to ram requiring apps for the moment. I am just trying to say that you need not worry about free ram if the phone is working correctly. And if it's not it is most likely not because of used ram but some app is not behaving as it should and is using the CPU too much.
You should consider using a kernel that has OTF settings or a RAMhack. I recommend Etana but for some reason I love Temasek's Kernel. They both have the RAMhack option. It basically takes some of the RAM that is reserved for your GPU and makes it available for your device so you'll have more RAM for running applications etc. You shouldn't set the RAMhack too high though, 32mb/48mb should be fine. Additionally you could freeze some system apps that you don't need and use an autostart-manager in association with a task killer to kill applications and not allow them to restart themselves.
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You should consider using a kernel that has OTF settings or a RAMhack. I recommend Etana but for some reason I love Temasek's Kernel. They both have the RAMhack option. It basically takes some of the RAM that is reserved for your GPU and makes it available for your device so you'll have more RAM for running applications etc. You shouldn't set the RAMhack too high though, 32mb/48mb should be fine. Additionally you could freeze some system apps that you don't need and use an autostart-manager in association with a task killer to kill applications and not allow them to restart themselves.
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thank,
but Temasek and Etana's kernel can use in 20s?
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thank,
but Temasek and Etana's kernel can use in 20s?
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No.
And I heard that ramhack cannot be used with stock rom.
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No.
And I heard that ramhack cannot be used with stock rom.
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if some1 comes up with ram hack for stock based kernels ill be back to stock right away...
Gueste OC 1.8.1 stock kernel is awesome. Activate z ram in it and u will have really fast phone .
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I believe you have 330 mb because the rest up to 512 mb is reserved for system apps. So you can use root explorer and go to /system/app and remove some system apps you don't use and reboot the phone. Just be careful not to touch stuff that is required for the phone to boot. And no, I don't know exactly which these apps are. But here is a tip: I always remove gallery, news and weather, all google apps, music player, stock email, navigation software if there is any, live wallpappers, file explorer (not before getting another though) and everything that's about visualization in general. These things are safe to remove.
And btw the amount of free ram is pretty much irrelevant to the phone's work because the kernel tries to utilize as much ram as possible and then it gives it away to ram requiring apps for the moment. I am just trying to say that you need not worry about free ram if the phone is working correctly. And if it's not it is most likely not because of used ram but some app is not behaving as it should and is using the CPU too much.
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What did I just read?
Don't do what was posted, you'll most likely break everything.
System apps uses system storage not ram. Deleting those apps will not give you more ram. But more system storage maybe.
Ram is used to save the current state of opened applications. Though the reason you only have 330mb left, is cause the gpu uses it as shared memory.
A ram hack is an option, as it reduces the amount of ram that goes to the gpu. But the use of a ram hack over 48mbs will break lots of things, such as recorder, camera and instability in games.
In all honesty, there is no use for a ram hack 330mb of ram is enough.
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If you use DjangoManouche you have ram profiles, another option are to use swap, the benefits, i'm not sure there are
Like a previous post said.....android are coded to use all ram except the amount needed for system to run smooth, apps you open will then be stored in ram which are the fastest "sd card lol". Next time you open its from ram. If you use many apps its useful with much ram. After reboot you start all over again. If there's a memory leak you can get issues like lagging Best solution are to choose a profile with much ram for apps and not much more than nessesary for system
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Use guestekrnl 1.8.1 and enable ZRam, works a charm. See my recent post in the flix123 v20s thread as well.
What are you planning to do with the free ram?
Sell it on Ebay! :good:
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Sell it on Ebay! :good:
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I was going to buy a new phone with it ):
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KoolSavas95 said:
I only have 70Mb free Ram. Using stock. Any suggestions?
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Get rid of stock, lol.
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Dear god, when will people learn that free RAM is wasted RAM?
Hard to get rid of Windows habbit lol
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To have more free RAM means it has to take some from the normally non accessible system dedicated RAM. This way your device has less RAM for things like graphics which can worsen video playback and record performance.
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The opinion free ram is wasted ram is wrong. you should realize it from daily use. its because when you have for example 70MB free and you open browser with some tabs, some game, etc. it closes other apps you dont want or it closes some of the tabs in browser and you have to load them every time you switch them. you need enough free ram to open what you want without system automatic closing other and under 100MB really isnt enough
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Task manager
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Hell no!
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The opinion free ram is wasted ram is wrong. you should realize it from daily use. its because when you have for example 70MB free and you open browser with some tabs, some game, etc. it closes other apps you dont want or it closes some of the tabs in browser and you have to load them every time you switch them. you need enough free ram to open what you want without system automatic closing other and under 100MB really isnt enough
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Hell no!
This doesn't make sense. The system will get you the ram you need whenever you need it.
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Right now im using gdx and the low ram is verry annoying especially when it comes to multi tasking
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There is no such rom that u can say gives more free ram....
By the way , u can use ram manager pro and set the option that suites you...
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gingerdx v22 was the best for me when it comes to multitasking, ofc with alfs gdx kernel.
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VanillaDroid v3
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VanillaDroid v3
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true :good: :good:
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VanillaDroid v3
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It's the best rom I have more RAM than many other roms
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It's the best rom I have more RAM than many other roms
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You may have over 100 free , but if the android dont know how to suck(only term found that fits , dont judge me) the best of it , the big free ram is useless.
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Right now im using gdx and the low ram is verry annoying especially when it comes to multi tasking
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From your question it's obvious that you have no idea how linux or android use ram..
More free ram does not mean better multitasking.
What a stupid thread! Go and educate yourself before posting nonsense here.
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You may have over 100 free , but if the android dont know how to suck(only term found that fits , dont judge me) the best of it , the big free ram is useless.
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True MockingBird! All the other posters in this thread haven't a clue lol..
I think more free ram needed for play hardest games without swap. It's wrong? But for multitasking no need much free ram. It's right?
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I think more free ram needed for play hardest games without swap. It's wrong? But for multitasking no need much free ram. It's right?
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Google how linux uses ram.. It's too complicated to write in a few lines here..
The OP thinks of ram from a windows users perspective. Windows doesn't know how to use ram correctly.
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Google how linux uses ram.. It's too complicated to write in a few lines here..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1228132 i think it in here somewhere
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Google how linux uses ram.. It's too complicated to write in a few lines here..
The OP thinks of ram from a windows users perspective. Windows doesn't know how to use ram correctly.
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Thanks, I know it. And now I think that we needed for more total ram than more free ram
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Thanks, I know it. And now I think that we needed for more total ram than more free ram
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*facepalm*
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sorry
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sorry
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Dont apoligize. Learn up on Android and how it has been specially built to distribute RAM & memory. Info for those who dont know - unlike PC's, when we see very little RAM available (Settings/Apps/Running), its actually a really good thing. It means our system is ready with almost all apps preloaded. When you have 90mb+ of free RAM, you should be worried. Thats why i discourage many from using task killers and superchargers. It f*cks up how Android manages its RAM.
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Dont apoligize. Learn up on Android and how it has been specially built to distribute RAM & memory. Info for those who dont know - unlike PC's, when we see very little RAM available (Settings/Apps/Running), its actually a really good thing. It means our system is ready with almost all apps preloaded. When you have 90mb+ of free RAM, you should be worried. Thats why i discourage many from using task killers and superchargers. It f*cks up how Android manages its RAM.
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Thanks , but I never used any taskkillers and supercharger. I just use compcache and sometimes swap (only for gaming)
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Dont apoligize. Learn up on Android and how it has been specially built to distribute RAM & memory. Info for those who dont know - unlike PC's, when we see very little RAM available (Settings/Apps/Running), its actually a really good thing. It means our system is ready with almost all apps preloaded. When you have 90mb+ of free RAM, you should be worried. Thats why i discourage many from using task killers and superchargers. It f*cks up how Android manages its RAM.
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Not entirely true. If you have 90MB+ of free RAM at boot, for example, you'll get a lot of cached apps. So, in a way, what you see is not entirely what you get. You only ever get that much true free RAM after executing a heavy (in terms of RAM consumption) app.
the best combination rom+kernel il gdx v29+alfsv08a.
i'm using now and its fantastic
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Right now im using gdx and the low ram is verry annoying especially when it comes to multi tasking
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for me ixperia 1.9 with nAa 13 was the best!
PrimeHD is the answer to your question.