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[Q] Even lighter rom for X8?

Hey guys i just wanna know if a custom rom for our X8 can go lighter than 80Mbs..
Example.. Froyobread is around 91Mbs.. GingerDX also.. but X10i roms can go til 72Mbs.. i just wanna know if its possible with our X8

I think it's possible but no one has built one yet..

I had 111mb free ram with stable 2.2 rom by lizypen
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I am just curious.. why there are so many asking for ROMS with more free RAM? Why do you want to have always lots of free RAM?
You should be worried about how to better use your RAM than be worried about not using it.
It is really strange but I never saw something like this when people are always askin for more free RAM just to never use it.

Nothing beats Stock Rom .. however one can use task killers app to free up some ram though..

We need free ram for smoothness, anyway,i can.t. ask for more,the newer version of rom,the less ram we will have.
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dotsen9 said:
We need free ram for smoothness, anyway,i can.t. ask for more,the newer version of rom,the less ram we will have.
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That is not necessary true. Less free RAM not always implies slugginesh. android is based on Linux, and Linux have a RAM administration model wich tries to always use the free RAM. Per example if you load all your aplications ans system and you have 100MB RAM free then android will try to use that memory for fetching app data, increase storage cache, etc. All this to do a smart usage of the available resources... think a little, why do you want to have extra RAM just to leave it unused?
If an application needs more RAM then android will free the necessary ammount of RAM, unloading fetch and cache data and preloaded apps.

Well it's true,but why devs has created supercharger script or let's take the juwe's script.This got to be a reason for that.
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er guys.. i'm asking about the size of the ROM itself.. there's nothing about RAM here...

Well, it's easy to make a smaller ROM. Most ROMs nowadays include several extra apps (Google Apps, Keyboard, Calculator, etc...) for many user.
Just delete all Google Apps (Maps, street view, ...) and other unused apps, you will have a lighter one.

i've deleted many unused apps from the rom.. i managed to lower it to 85mbs.. x8 doesn't have much in terms of internal mem.. but i gues thats what app2sd is for.. is it recommended to store my apps in sd card instead?

Yes,i do that too.
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I got 67mb with the miniCM7 after delete a load of stuff ill never use
super.sense on x8

my RAM :/

why always when i reboot my phone i have 90RAM Free pass (with supercharger) and after few hours or next day i have 50 mb free and all my apps ,launcher laggy dat_co fused
using froyopro v025 alfs kernel
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Supercharger has some ROM compatibility make sure you use the best one for froyo

i think i use bcz 90 ram never had without supercharger
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Oops I mean use lower version of supercharger.
supercharger has ROM compatibility so you cannot just use it on any ROM.
Correct me if Im wrong.
Take note as well, free RAM depends on the apps installed and running in backgrounds.

i use task killer for this and i use v6 supercharger and i think it's good ...myb u have different?
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Oh well its been a while since I use it, Im using ram manager now. Maybe you want to try it

deedii said:
Oh well its been a while since I use it, Im using ram manager now. Maybe you want to try it
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+1, agree with Ram Manager Remove superchager, Do not use Both.
Ram Manager + Superchager = BANG! LOL jkjk
And Task killer Also Eat your Ram buddy.

use ram manager,sometimes phone start to be laggy with superchg.,without any off that tool,l have all time 60+ on mini cm,only use es task manager*widget

what option u use? on ram manager
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fenixcro said:
what option u use? on ram manager
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Just use the basic one. If you wanna play game, use game mode, etc, etc.
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thanks
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How to have more free ram ??

Which kernel should i choose ??
i use DjangoManouche 1.5 now
i have a total of 330mb ram only
any good idea i can do

I believe you have 330 mb because the rest up to 512 mb is reserved for system apps. So you can use root explorer and go to /system/app and remove some system apps you don't use and reboot the phone. Just be careful not to touch stuff that is required for the phone to boot. And no, I don't know exactly which these apps are. But here is a tip: I always remove gallery, news and weather, all google apps, music player, stock email, navigation software if there is any, live wallpappers, file explorer (not before getting another though) and everything that's about visualization in general. These things are safe to remove.
And btw the amount of free ram is pretty much irrelevant to the phone's work because the kernel tries to utilize as much ram as possible and then it gives it away to ram requiring apps for the moment. I am just trying to say that you need not worry about free ram if the phone is working correctly. And if it's not it is most likely not because of used ram but some app is not behaving as it should and is using the CPU too much.

You should consider using a kernel that has OTF settings or a RAMhack. I recommend Etana but for some reason I love Temasek's Kernel. They both have the RAMhack option. It basically takes some of the RAM that is reserved for your GPU and makes it available for your device so you'll have more RAM for running applications etc. You shouldn't set the RAMhack too high though, 32mb/48mb should be fine. Additionally you could freeze some system apps that you don't need and use an autostart-manager in association with a task killer to kill applications and not allow them to restart themselves.
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xExabyte said:
You should consider using a kernel that has OTF settings or a RAMhack. I recommend Etana but for some reason I love Temasek's Kernel. They both have the RAMhack option. It basically takes some of the RAM that is reserved for your GPU and makes it available for your device so you'll have more RAM for running applications etc. You shouldn't set the RAMhack too high though, 32mb/48mb should be fine. Additionally you could freeze some system apps that you don't need and use an autostart-manager in association with a task killer to kill applications and not allow them to restart themselves.
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thank,
but Temasek and Etana's kernel can use in 20s?

complete123 said:
thank,
but Temasek and Etana's kernel can use in 20s?
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No.
And I heard that ramhack cannot be used with stock rom.
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googgiggs said:
No.
And I heard that ramhack cannot be used with stock rom.
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if some1 comes up with ram hack for stock based kernels ill be back to stock right away...

Gueste OC 1.8.1 stock kernel is awesome. Activate z ram in it and u will have really fast phone .
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heavencanwait said:
I believe you have 330 mb because the rest up to 512 mb is reserved for system apps. So you can use root explorer and go to /system/app and remove some system apps you don't use and reboot the phone. Just be careful not to touch stuff that is required for the phone to boot. And no, I don't know exactly which these apps are. But here is a tip: I always remove gallery, news and weather, all google apps, music player, stock email, navigation software if there is any, live wallpappers, file explorer (not before getting another though) and everything that's about visualization in general. These things are safe to remove.
And btw the amount of free ram is pretty much irrelevant to the phone's work because the kernel tries to utilize as much ram as possible and then it gives it away to ram requiring apps for the moment. I am just trying to say that you need not worry about free ram if the phone is working correctly. And if it's not it is most likely not because of used ram but some app is not behaving as it should and is using the CPU too much.
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What did I just read?
Don't do what was posted, you'll most likely break everything.
System apps uses system storage not ram. Deleting those apps will not give you more ram. But more system storage maybe.
Ram is used to save the current state of opened applications. Though the reason you only have 330mb left, is cause the gpu uses it as shared memory.
A ram hack is an option, as it reduces the amount of ram that goes to the gpu. But the use of a ram hack over 48mbs will break lots of things, such as recorder, camera and instability in games.
In all honesty, there is no use for a ram hack 330mb of ram is enough.
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If you use DjangoManouche you have ram profiles, another option are to use swap, the benefits, i'm not sure there are
Like a previous post said.....android are coded to use all ram except the amount needed for system to run smooth, apps you open will then be stored in ram which are the fastest "sd card lol". Next time you open its from ram. If you use many apps its useful with much ram. After reboot you start all over again. If there's a memory leak you can get issues like lagging Best solution are to choose a profile with much ram for apps and not much more than nessesary for system
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Use guestekrnl 1.8.1 and enable ZRam, works a charm. See my recent post in the flix123 v20s thread as well.

What are you planning to do with the free ram?

Sell it on Ebay! :good:

tonyp said:
Sell it on Ebay! :good:
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I was going to buy a new phone with it ):
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KoolSavas95 said:
I only have 70Mb free Ram. Using stock. Any suggestions?
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Get rid of stock, lol.
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Dear god, when will people learn that free RAM is wasted RAM?

Hard to get rid of Windows habbit lol
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To have more free RAM means it has to take some from the normally non accessible system dedicated RAM. This way your device has less RAM for things like graphics which can worsen video playback and record performance.
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The opinion free ram is wasted ram is wrong. you should realize it from daily use. its because when you have for example 70MB free and you open browser with some tabs, some game, etc. it closes other apps you dont want or it closes some of the tabs in browser and you have to load them every time you switch them. you need enough free ram to open what you want without system automatic closing other and under 100MB really isnt enough

Subhannn said:
Task manager
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Hell no!
tomsi91 said:
The opinion free ram is wasted ram is wrong. you should realize it from daily use. its because when you have for example 70MB free and you open browser with some tabs, some game, etc. it closes other apps you dont want or it closes some of the tabs in browser and you have to load them every time you switch them. you need enough free ram to open what you want without system automatic closing other and under 100MB really isnt enough
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Hell no!
This doesn't make sense. The system will get you the ram you need whenever you need it.
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Lag gone crazy

I got a replacement SGS and I can't remember that my first was this laggy.it is almost imposable to use.
I have flashed CM10.1 and back to stock 2.3.6 I9000XWJW1. But both are laggy
I did a factory reset en cleared all the cash. is there something else I should do?
Strange things are happening with this phone. If i click the dailer ot takes about a second or two to open en sometimes just closes. Well that seems to happen alot. apps open then closes at random.
When i need to answer the phone it is hard to get the swipe to move. strange
Anyone have an idea what I can try to get this think usable?
It some times feel fast end then it stoppes dead.

flash some lagfix kernel for gb. although i already forgot which thread provides it, try to search lagfix for i9000

Hows your ram? How much do you have free ram? Sounds to me like some apps are taking uo all your ram
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RAm
You have to have min 50RAM
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Hows your ram? How much do you have free ram? Sounds to me like some apps are taking uo all your ram
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My suggestion is try flashing gamerzrom its fast doesnt drain battery and youl have always 100+ mb of free ram and use greenify.
Its the fastest rom alive
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[Q] increasing RAM on Optimus 2X

My mobile is getting slow and when I checked the RAM, it is showing that it has 342MB RAM and usually it is 50MB free and by using RAM Booster, I was able to increase the free RAM. But, is there any way I can increase RAM of the mobile, as my mobile is getting very slow and sometime, I have to restart my system, and even power button doesn't work and i have to take out the battery and put it back...

libranavi1 said:
My mobile is getting slow and when I checked the RAM, it is showing that it has 342MB RAM and usually it is 50MB free and by using RAM Booster, I was able to increase the free RAM. But, is there any way I can increase RAM of the mobile, as my mobile is getting very slow and sometime, I have to restart my system, and even power button doesn't work and i have to take out the battery and put it back...
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In android free ram is wasted ram theory....so if things work normal...it's ok
But if the problem is getting slower and no response...then best is use greenify app and make the apps to hibernate....
It works to some extent....But then it is better to use min free manager too
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it also depends on what rom are you using, it has effect on ram usage. for example I'm using tonyp's cm10.1 and everything works well. I never check free ram as I don't have to, every app starts quickly and work smooth, even though a reboot a day is needed, but it worth it as I'm using this for more than a month now, without any flashings.
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SREEPRAJAY said:
In android free ram is wasted ram theory....so if things work normal...it's ok
But if the problem is getting slower and no response...then best is use greenify app and make the apps to hibernate....
It works to some extent....But then it is better to use min free manager too
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Thank You Sir, big help i will try greenify. Im having trouble with my ram too. This would be a very great help. Thank you!:highfive:

araltea1 said:
Thank You Sir, big help i will try greenify. Im having trouble with my ram too. This would be a very great help. Thank you!:highfive:
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i am use greenify app and no have ram problem between 117-80 ram free..
sorry for my english

libranavi1 said:
I have to restart my system, and even power button doesn't work and i have to take out the battery and put it back...
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A little tip that works for me on v20l is to go to Settings, Display, Display Font & choose any Font as it will ask you to restart your fone. This way, you don't have to keep doing a battery pull lol. Not to sure what rom your using but on stock 2.3.4 - you don't get the option of a reset.

nk7600 said:
A little tip that works for me on v20l is to go to Settings, Display, Display Font & choose any Font as it will ask you to restart your fone. This way, you don't have to keep doing a battery pull lol. Not to sure what rom your using but on stock 2.3.4 - you don't get the option of a reset.
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On the ICS/JB selection of the fonts from the settings does not requires the restart...it takes 2seconds after selection.
So, this is not true for ICS. Applicable for GB only(maybe Froyo too)

There is a way "to increase ram". It's called swap. A program could create a swap file on your android system. Not needed files which are "on" the ram will be copied to the swap file and deleted from the ram.
Maybe this app works for you: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lv.n3o.swapper2
You should notice that a higher "swappiness" means, that the chance is higher for the data to be copied to the swap file. As you can see, it is something like a virtual ram expansion.