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Leaving TyTN II & leaving HTC FOREVER

Hi Guys,
This is probably the best PDA forum. HTC should pay all you guys for creating this great forum for its overrated mobile.
TyTN II was the most $ I have ever spent on a mobile. With the price I pay, I could get a decent dual core laptop. But I wanted all things in one gadget and the news on TyTN II prior to its launch have made this mobile my dream mobile.
I was weary of the slow CPU speed. But after reading Qualcomm's specification of its CPU, that it is a dual core chip, I forced myself to believe that it will be faster than my old PDA that runs on Intel PXA270, 416MHZ. Unfortunately, I was mislead.
Sure, the TyTN II is stable, but I need to wait for 1-2 secs for it to register my command and than to react is totally not acceptable, especially I paid so much $ for it.
As for the Video, the first time I experienced, at best, the still moving pictures from an avi file had caused me great concern that my TyTn II is faulty. But now we all know that that phone is working under perfectly fine condition. Seriously, who has time to encode avi file down so that it can be viewed on TyTn II. I brought this phone to assist me and make my life more convenient, not the opposite.
So finally, I am trading in this phone at 64% of its original price (I have only used this phone for 5 months) for either Asus P750 or Gsmart MS800. I have ordered both of these new phones with the store for inspection and to make my final decision.
I am also frustrated with its inability to record telephone calls, which is one of necessary function for my job. I have spoken to a HTC sales and he told me that it is for privacy reason that they have make such a restriction. This is a load of BS. All large phone companies such as Nokia, SE, LG, and Moto have such a function.
Hope that I will also be able to find a native forum as good as this for Asus P750 or Gsmart MS800.
AND, I will never (during my time on earth) buy another HTC phone again... and I will certainly spread the word to all my friends not to buy any HTC phone either. HTC is good at make its first time customer its last time customer.
Guys, seriously, do you still believe that there is hope for the video driver or video improvement for HTC???

Get a life. Good luck with your new phone. Maybe they will have the video drivers you are looking for. We need to make a Sub Forum called "People Who ***** About HTC Products and Video Drivers"

goodbye, enjoy your new phone
honestly if anyone is tired of their kaiser, pls just sell it and leave, no need to whine about it or say goodbye. we really wont miss you at all.
all of us still holding on to our kaisers may be stupid from ur point of view, but we are all trying to make it work, hence the name xda-developers, not xda-whiners. if you dont like ur kaiser, sure you are entitled to your opinion, but ppl who choose to stay, dont really care, so just sell of your phone, piss off, and dont bother anyone. we dont really care to know what you feel about your device

well thx for telling us how u feel but we dont really care...its not like we're gonna follow suit cuz of u...research or try it out before u spend "so much $" on it...and whether new drivers are coming...who knows maybe or maybe not...this phone being not suitable to u doesnt mean it sucks or its bad in any way...just go get ur phone which suits u best...and live on

well... what more can I say..?
bye bye...

FYI, it's 'wary', not 'weary'. Good luck.

Seems like you want someone to sympathize. Pick one of the following responses:
1. Awww poor baby. There there.
2. I'll join you in abandoning HTC products.
(disclaimer: meh)

Good luck. and hope you can find the right PDA.

Tell it Wayne...
One whiner less....
This is nothing personal, but people are tired of new whining threads... plz just go and leave us alone with the whining.
If your friends belive the $ you talk it's their problem. Noone here cares if your friends like HTC or not. It doesn't matter for most if HTC sales some phones less or not. I still dont geht the point of such threads...
U think HTC will read this? U think it gets better if you buy a new one? Sry but every phones has it's issues... everything... here it is a video driver, other phones als cheaply manufactured, some have other bugs. There is nothing perfect. So wake up! The world is unfair.

Guys I am sorry but there is someone who tells us what he is doing now.
I believe HTC will never release the new drivers and at least they should see that people are selling the device now and will buy other brand in the future.
HP h4150 (best device I ever had)
Magican (it was fantastic but not that fast as the h4150)
TyTn1 (was ****)
Trinity (same **** like TyTn1, color pealing blahh blahh. but at least smaller)
now this stupid Kaiser (good device but not ready for the market)
I have bought 4 devices from HTC and only one was that what I am expecting to get.
And now you Guys are blaming him because he tells in a open letter what he will do?
Nice one!

HTC cheaters
I agree with the first post of this thread.
lot of people are addicted to flashing roms (me too), the fact that Kaiser is a disaster will never be acknowledged bec we have paid good amount for this and we refuse to give up or accept the facts. Till how long, will this go on. when will HTC be made to change their attitude, an attitude of taking consumers for granted, show me any hardware of their's which is perfect, either the speaker or camera will let u down. people who have criticized the first post should realise that people didnt go out to buy a phone with bad camera, speaker and display issues. Fact is we all have been duped by HTC. and if people here think things can be solved by xda everytime so lets buy htc, then its not right. I hope someday XDA dev manufacture a great phone , probably it will be the perfect phone.

gqstatus0685 said:
Get a life. Good luck with your new phone. Maybe they will have the video drivers you are looking for. We need to make a Sub Forum called "People Who ***** About HTC Products and Video Drivers"
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Unnecessary! It's a forum for people to voice their opinions and thats all he was doing. Fine, if you don't agree with his post, thats up to you but it's like my parents used to tell me "If you don't have anything nice to say.... don't say anything at all"
This is kind of one of the reasons why I try not to post here too much. Too many people all wanting to jump down someones throat when they disagree with a post, r the reason for posting. It's not just here, it's the same with any forum you go to. It's sad really.

Even though you think he's whining, it doesn't get better with the negative answers you give him. He just tells us he's made a choice.
The rudeness to him in the following posts is not worthy of an xda-developer.
Stay friendly.

viewedit said:
I agree with the first post of this thread.
lot of people are addicted to flashing roms (me too), the fact that Kaiser is a disaster will never be acknowledged bec we have paid good amount for this and we refuse to give up or accept the facts. Till how long, will this go on. when will HTC be made to change their attitude, an attitude of taking consumers for granted, show me any hardware of their's which is perfect, either the speaker or camera will let u down. people who have criticized the first post should realise that people didnt go out to buy a phone with bad camera, speaker and display issues. Fact is we all have been duped by HTC. and if people here think things can be solved by xda everytime so lets buy htc, then its not right. I hope someday XDA dev manufacture a great phone , probably it will be the perfect phone.
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Ag, shamepies,
Maybe HTC will provide live feeds from Mars too.
Or maybe better yet, a device that will record your blood pressure and hot & cold running water at the same time!
Oh, maybe even better, a device that will also double as a BMI scale and also have a built-in HIV monitor and blood-group detector!!!
Grow up!!
This has truly become the Cheese & WHINE forum!!!

MACkjam said:
Ag, shamepies,
Maybe HTC will provide live feeds from Mars too.
Or maybe better yet, a device that will record your blood pressure and hot & cold running water at the same time!
Oh, maybe even better, a device that will also double as a BMI scale and also have a built-in HIV monitor and blood-group detector!!!
Grow up!!
This has truly become the Cheese & WHINE forum!!!
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What is YOUR contribution to xda-developers exactly?

even if i dont't mind if anybody has a kaiser, sells a kaiser, buys a kaiser or sleeps with his kaiser, i think such threads might not be useless.
if many people make it clear that they leave HTC and why they sell their phones maybe HTC realizes that their way to treat customers was wrong.

rhov23 said:
What is YOUR contribution to xda-developers exactly?
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Firstly, I've helped a few people here and there. Secondly I've been here a little longer than you even if I haven't posted much.
And yours???

MACkjam said:
Firstly, I've helped a few people here and there. Secondly I've been here a little longer than you even if I haven't posted much.
And yours???
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Well length of membership really isn't anything to go by, I could have signed up to be a member yesterday and could be a total guru (im not though )
Look, lets just play nice ok? Its a public forum for people to publish their opinions. Lets not turn this into yet another bashing thread.

foobar1977 said:
Well length of membership really isn't anything to go by, I could have signed up to be a member yesterday and could be a total guru (im not though )
Look, lets just play nice ok? Its a public forum for people to publish their opinions. Lets not turn this into yet another bashing thread.
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Agree. Thanks

MACkjam said:
Firstly, I've helped a few people here and there. Secondly I've been here a little longer than you even if I haven't posted much.
And yours???
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Made iTask, and made a lot of skins for various programs.

on the hunt for a symbian based site similar to xda-developers

Hello!
firstly, thanks to everyone for such a fantastic resource. I always enjoy reading about the latest bits of user made software and trying out delicious freshly baked roms...
I have been a winmo user for about 5 years now (many MANY phones ) but, sadly, i have just purchased a nokia N95 8Gb (i basically couldn't refuse the offer) but one thing that really annoys me about it (and i havent got it yet! it arrives tomorrow) is the lack of intelligent, and credible sources of user discussion and content generation (such as this fantastic site). I really will miss it!
Does anyone know of a good symbian forum/irc/site in a similar vain to xda-dev? I have visited www.allaboutsymbian.com and wasnt impressed with the manner or technical level of its users... maby i just didnt dig deep enough.
Anyway, thanks again!
wish me luck on the s60 side... ill have a tytnII if it all goes tits up
Ant

I spit in the face of Symbian!Ptui!! Although,you could go over to mobiholics.com, I know youll be back soon because we all know youre going over there to sell the phone.

i got a p1i, and my super device of all time, the athena has since been neglected... maybe that will change with the release of the real athena project rom..
so i too am looking for symbian-developers.com
Rory

SamsungJohn : A Question For You

I find this very curious, since January, I have been very vocal on the Samsung USA Facebook page as well as Twitter about the missing Froyo update. Today I went to check the Facebook page to find that somehow I had lost the ability to post anything.. shortly thereafter, I realized that I no longer "liked" the Samsung USA page. I did not do that myself, Samsung must have had that done (reported me for spamming/abuse?). Perusing the wall posts, I notice a distinct lack of people complaining about the 2.2 update.
I was not abusive, I did not swear or use foul language in any of my posts on that wall. I cracked a few jokes, sure, but nothing that could have been considered over-the-top. In fact, I waited until AFTER the promised "by the end of the year" deadline (promised to me on Twitter by @GalaxySSupport) to even being posting any complaints.
Is this Samsung's damage-control strategy moving forward? To try to stifle public outcry by booting us off of your pages and deleting our posts?

themirthfulswami said:
I find this very curious, since January, I have been very vocal on the Samsung USA Facebook page as well as Twitter about the missing Froyo update. Today I went to check the Facebook page to find that somehow I had lost the ability to post anything.. shortly thereafter, I realized that I no longer "liked" the Samsung USA page. I did not do that myself, Samsung must have had that done (reported me for spamming/abuse?). Perusing the wall posts, I notice a distinct lack of people complaining about the 2.2 update.
I was not abusive, I did not swear or use foul language in any of my posts on that wall. I cracked a few jokes, sure, but nothing that could have been considered over-the-top. In fact, I waited until AFTER the promised "by the end of the year" deadline (promised to me on Twitter by @GalaxySSupport) to even being posting any complaints.
Is this Samsung's damage-control strategy moving forward? To try to stifle public outcry by booting us off of your pages and deleting our posts?
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You know this is very interesting as when trying to give the Vibrant a bad review (for the software not the hardware) on their website it will tell you that they are looking for different type of reviews and won't post the bad one.

swehes said:
You know this is very interesting as when trying to give the Vibrant a bad review (for the software not the hardware) on their website it will tell you that they are looking for different type of reviews and won't post the bad one.
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thats insane. i'm really starting to dislike the samsung brand. buying a new tv soon too to replace my 5 year old samsung

Unless samsung comes out with something AMAZING (honeycomb for my Epic) to make up for all their lack with the galaxy S line, I will never buy another samsung product again.
SO MANY of my tech friends said "samsung does not support their phones, YOU WILL BE UPSET"
As I sit here the audio out ports on both my car and desk docks DO NOT WORK because they haven't released a year old 2.2 froyo.
Looks like my tech friends were right. The only reason my gps works is because of the hard working dev's here......and I have paid them for their work! I feel horrible for all the stock users in the world who have a **** gps thanks to samsung.

J3ff said:
Unless samsung comes out with something AMAZING (honeycomb for my Epic) to make up for all their lack with the galaxy S line, I will never buy another samsung product again.
SO MANY of my tech friends said "samsung does not support their phones, YOU WILL BE UPSET"
As I sit here the audio out ports on both my car and desk docks DO NOT WORK because they haven't released a year old 2.2 froyo.
Looks like my tech friends were right. The only reason my gps works is because of the hard working dev's here......and I have paid them for their work! I feel horrible for all the stock users in the world who have a **** gps thanks to samsung.
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I feel as if i should point out that my gps works just fine.
Sent from my non-rooted, stock eclair Epic.

swehes said:
You know this is very interesting as when trying to give the Vibrant a bad review (for the software not the hardware) on their website it will tell you that they are looking for different type of reviews and won't post the bad one.
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wow. that left me stunned for a second.

swehes said:
You know this is very interesting as when trying to give the Vibrant a bad review (for the software not the hardware) on their website it will tell you that they are looking for different type of reviews and won't post the bad one.
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Same happened to me with the Captivate on AT&T's website. Except mine was all hardware complaints.

My hardware is perfect
But sadly software is not! Unless they move away from carrier based updates this will be my last Samsung or Android based phone.
Remember Samsung when my phone crashes due to poor or out of date software or can't download something for the same reason I don't see the 3 mobile logo all I see is the Samsung logo.
This is all happening too close to the release of the Galaxy S 2 launch!
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swehes said:
You know this is very interesting as when trying to give the Vibrant a bad review (for the software not the hardware) on their website it will tell you that they are looking for different type of reviews and won't post the bad one.
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Man, same thing happened to me w/ my Epic review. I was pretty honest that i loved the hardware but the software needed updating. Got a message saying my review did not match what they were looking for and was rejected. Pretty easy to have devices w/ 4 and 5 star aggregate scores on your website if you're controlling which reviews you accept samsung.

You guys should take some screenshots of this and send it around to sites like engadget. The more bad press we can get for samsung, the faster we see updates. Worked for the t-mobile guys after they very publicly accused samsung of holding back the update to sell their newer phone.

Hi Guys,
I am also a samsung owner, not the galaxy S series but a phone called the Samsung Spica i5700; not supported by Samsung anymore after they claimed the hardware was not capable to run Android 2.2 froyo, ehh! the devs over at samdroid have ported AOSP and CM builds of 2.2 froyo onto it and are as of now porting AOSP and CM of GB.
the point I have is samsung is pathetic in customer support, all they want is to sell the customers to buy there new devices, and when the samsung #nevergain hashtag was started by an xda member and the hashtag went BOOM into samsung's face they are here to regain some respect, for that they need to prove a point to us, we have already proven them wrong.

I think the way to froyo, is to keep the heat up till they break down and beg to give source away.

everyone should retweet this:
http://twitter.com/#!/vorathe/status/37634312098693120

Johnnie5000 said:
Same happened to me with the Captivate on AT&T's website. Except mine was all hardware complaints.
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same here, never hit the web in their eyes

What can I say that has not been said more eloquently by others.
GPS + Froyo for Captivate Update please. As that would make the phone much more desirable and usable, The immediate next thing I am going to do is Ebay that Piece Of S***. Seriously Never going to touch a samsung phone even with a barge pole.
Thank you Samsung for making the Galaxy S brand a pinnacle for quality, support and customer satisfaction.
P.S. I know this has been posted before and does not add ANYTHING, but had to vent.

What the hell is samsungjohn discussing with the xda people? I mean it's been fully 5 days now and absolutely nothing of substance has emerged. What is taking so long? I mean seriously, can someone give an update or something?

Im not really sure theres much to discuss... but yeah, IF the 'hello' part 2 posts WERE the big announcement, it would be nice if the XDA powers that be just posted 'Sorry, thats really all he had to say, he wants to meet devs at a music festival, thats it... he is gone now, go about your business'. I just really hope he doesnt think an 'open dialogue' is a HUGE announcement, and actually has something WE care about. He may just think that was huge because, well its his thing... his job... to us its like, yeah, another source for cut n paste responses... great... oh and one not on FB or Twitter! How convenient!

Whoa! Did this just get moved to 'off topic'???
Wow... its like Samsung Mobile with negative comments!
whatever... Guess its not technically about a phone.

muyoso said:
You guys should take some screenshots of this and send it around to sites like engadget. The more bad press we can get for samsung, the faster we see updates. Worked for the t-mobile guys after they very publicly accused samsung of holding back the update to sell their newer phone.
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this one ! GOGOGO

Oh, that's terrible.

Please support our game developers with positive comments!

Sorry guys for the double post, but the developer of the popular Bang bang Racing has asked that us members here at XDA help them by posting some positive, honest comments in the Android marketplace. Recently they have been receiving one-star ratings all due to the recent price drop, which to me is really not fair considering that all developers do this and these guys have really been working hard to fix the issues that we had with this game from the first release date. negative comments can really stop people from buying games, which in turn can hurt us as the developer wont focus on a platform that is not selling their games well enough. So in short, please take a minute or two to place some positive feedback as they deserve it. And look for more great games from the developer and updates soon Xoomers!!

Yea the game is great and if it was worth it for you when you first bought it then you shouldn't be mad enough to want to rate down a developer just cause the price dropped. People need to keep in mind that they are reviewing the game as it was when they picked it up and games of this caliber are few and far between; I feel like even if you don't personally love the game, if you can appreciate what the developer is doing then you should rate up and let other people decide if the price is worth it for them. But I'm one of the few people that think that there are mobile games worth MORE than what developers charge for them.

It sucks for peeps that bought the game early at full price (me included) and the controls sucked, now that the controls are fixed and bugs fixed, the price drops half price, I think it should be the other way around.
Just my thoughts.
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futuregerald said:
Yea the game is great and if it was worth it for you when you first bought it then you shouldn't be mad enough to want to rate down a developer just cause the price dropped. People need to keep in mind that they are reviewing the game as it was when they picked it up and games of this caliber are few and far between; I feel like even if you don't personally love the game, if you can appreciate what the developer is doing then you should rate up and let other people decide if the price is worth it for them. But I'm one of the few people that think that there are mobile games worth MORE than what developers charge for them.
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I agree with you!! We finally have some quality games for Android an people want to complain over price drops!! Name on developer that releases a perfect game n keeps the prices the same??

whoever complains are idiots and have so much time to waste, i bought it regular price and even though i didnt like it at first, it grew on me and i love it now, if only you can get us some controls like death rally that would be great.and yes, most developers drop prices after couple of weeks, for a limited time.

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whoever complains are idiots and have so much time to waste, i bought it regular price and even though i didnt like it at first, it grew on me and i love it now, if only you can get us some controls like death rally that would be great.and yes, most developers drop prices after couple of weeks, for a limited time.
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Good idea on the ccontrols, I will suggest that one. The tighter controls really make the game much more fun, I can now come in at first place most of the time.

wolf1306 said:
whoever complains are idiots and have so much time to waste, i bought it regular price and even though i didnt like it at first, it grew on me and i love it now, if only you can get us some controls like death rally that would be great.and yes, most developers drop prices after couple of weeks, for a limited time.
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Good idea on the ccontrols, I will suggest that one. The tighter controls really make the game much more fun, I can now come in at first place most of the time.

lokko21 said:
It sucks for peeps that bought the game early at full price (me included) and the controls sucked, now that the controls are fixed and bugs fixed, the price drops half price, I think it should be the other way around.
Just my thoughts.
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I agree that it sucks; but decisions are made before the game comes out but the real world situation is constantly changing. They decided after a while to add control options and lower the price to entice new people to purchase the game and for this people who initially bought it are getting upset because they feel they were cheated? it's not like the developer tried to screw anybody and I don't think they deserve a bad rating because of this. If you really have issues then just contact the developer directly; but to rate the game down and therefore tell others who don't bother reading the reviews but just look at the stars the game isn't worth buying is silly. The devs are just lucky that overall the game has good reviews.

This is almost like getting upset that I can score a better deal on a new Xoom right now then those who bought it on day one, and mine would come with HC 3.1 which makes it better then when it first came out....
That doesnt make sense....

inferno1 said:
This is almost like getting upset that I can score a better deal on a new Xoom right now then those who bought it on day one, and mine would come with HC 3.1 which makes it better then when it first came out....
That doesnt make sense....
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It doesn't at all..The developer is now as we speak preparing updates to this game, they want to keep the game fresh n exciting for us. How many Android developers do we have that give us this type of support, especially when the game hasn't sold well? They have been really great an to suffer in sales due to immature ratings is not just bad for them, but bad for us also...we need to show support for developers who deliver quality which the Android platform needs

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This is almost like getting upset that I can score a better deal on a new Xoom right now then those who bought it on day one, and mine would come with HC 3.1 which makes it better then when it first came out....
That doesnt make sense....
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It is like buying an Xoom and then two weeks later, they drop the price half price.
That doesn't make any sense, right...!?!?!
Evo Better Than The Best...

I also bought the game day one and hated the controls so i refunded it, if they didn't lower the price i wouldn't of given it a second shot (glad I did, cuase now its great) good move on devs part with the 3.99 price.

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It is like buying an Xoom and then two weeks later, they drop the pric0e half price.
That doesn't make any sense, right...!?!?!
Evo Better Than The Best...
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Your comparing 400 dollars to 4 dollars?

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I also bought the game day one and hated the controls so i refunded it, if they didn't lower the price i wouldn't of given it a second shot (glad I did, cuase now its great) good move on devs part with the 3.99 price.
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I still think the controls are haywire but I kept the purchase this time ( I had also previously purchased it, vomitted in my mouth a little and refunded ).

[Doubt] Why the N4 have a LOT of bad hardware reviews?

Hi everyone, first than nothing, English its not my native language so please try to understand what I want to focus on this threat...
As we now, the Nexus 4 will be available this 13th/nov. and tons of people are getting ready to buy this beauty and powerful device having on mind the sweet price of it.
However, many developers already has the preview release version in their hands, and they share with us in videos their experience with this device, but something its getting me nervous, many of them are saying that the battery isn't enough, the black crystal its too fragile, no LTE (IDK), a washed-out screen, etc etc, we all know the "issues" with this device but, you guys think that when the official release version get available this "issues" will disappear?
I really like this device, but I can't understand why the hell so many bad reviews...
I'm counting the seconds for the moment that I can buy this thing... and I really hope that Google kick the asses of The Verge/Engadget etc...
NOTE: Look at this video and let me know what do you think about this "new leak" of PhotoSphere...
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeF7QSeENHU
Thanks and sorry for my bad english.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1970593
Make sure to read that thread before you buy!
Pretty much with the reviews coming in about the battery life, overheating, poor benchmarks those could all be explained by the fact that those review units aren't the final versions we will get.
But either way... wait to purchase the phone if you're unsure you could live with the issues above and let the early adopters either confirm or deny the issues before purchasing so you don't wind up with a restocking fee if you're in the U.S.

I don't think all the issues will just magically disappear, but I think they'll definitely be smoothed out, given time

first than nothing.

ap3604 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1970593
Make sure to read that thread before you buy!
Pretty much with the reviews coming in about the battery life, overheating, poor benchmarks those could all be explained by the fact that those review units aren't the final versions we will get.
But either way... wait to purchase the phone if you're unsure you could live with the issues above and let the early adopters either confirm or deny the issues before purchasing so you don't wind up with a restocking fee if you're in the U.S.
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lol... of course, I too hope that the issues were caused by buggy software, but just because that's what I want doesn't mean it's the answer. Seems like most people on this forum have forgotten that.

Yeah as I noticed that there seems to a be a lot of glithces and due the fact that I needed a phone quickly (my old SGS3 got stolen). I decided to go for Note 2 for now and wait to see what happens to Nexus 4 in the following months.
As for now Note 2 has been surprisingly good. I was ready for okeish SGS3 experience with bigger screen but this has been so much better than expected

You are right, might we need to wait a few weeks to determinate if we can buy this or not, however, I have a lot of respect for engineers and I don't think the come to blast the market (299$) with a crappy phone if we have on mind, Google select the hardware very carefully..

Please post in one of the existing review threads.
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