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Will the proper Froyo 2.2 update bring addtional features to the Nexus One?

Is the “unofficial” Pre-release Froyo a preview version for all Global Android devices
Could it be that the pre-release version to Froyo shown at Google I/O and pushed to the testers was a version of the firmware to show Devs what Android will bring to all the devices across the board that will/can be updated to Froyo 2.2.
However the version that is being worked on now and being readied for OTA could be the version specific to the Nexus One and possibly un-lock some of the previously mentioned buried secrets of the N1, as stated by (Ex) Google’s empoyee Eric Tseng.
I say this because it doesn't appear from the text and vids I've seen of I/O that anything in Froyo was specifically exclusive to the Nexus 1.

I am also hoping for some of the buried secrets. But I am worried that he could have been referring to JIT, and that the buried secret is speed...

That is entirely possible, but would be a shame as I think that some Nexus One owners would be hoping for more to the Nexus One as fresh as possible, especially when the competing handsets have additional feature sets.

No one knows so there is no point in speculating. People were wrong about FM radio which everyone was reporting on.

Inside sources tell me they'll finally allow you to access the exta 400 mah of battery life that's locked up right now. The am radio chip will be sent OTA as well. They're having a little bit of hard time fitting the new digitizer in a managable download size, so it's not known whether the digitizer will come in the 2.2 or the gingerbread update, the super amoled screen is already in the update however.

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Inside sources tell me they'll finally allow you to access the exta 400 mah of battery life that's locked up right now. The am radio chip will be sent OTA as well. They're having a little bit of hard time fitting the new digitizer in a managable download size, so it's not known whether the digitizer will come in the 2.2 or the gingerbread update, the super amoled screen is already in the update however.
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+1 what he said

JCopernicus said:
Inside sources tell me they'll finally allow you to access the exta 400 mah of battery life that's locked up right now. The am radio chip will be sent OTA as well. They're having a little bit of hard time fitting the new digitizer in a managable download size, so it's not known whether the digitizer will come in the 2.2 or the gingerbread update, the super amoled screen is already in the update however.
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You might want to elaborate a bit more for other people, sounds like you are saying they are making hardware downloadable/hardware physical updates. Also what update would you be referring to with the super amoled screen that doesn't pertain to the digitizer?

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You might want to elaborate a bit more for other people, sounds like you are saying they are making hardware downloadable/hardware physical updates. Also what update would you be referring to with the super amoled screen that doesn't pertain to the digitizer?
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That about sums up your post

You mean you didn't hear about the new matter replicator? Able to download matter in a single packet.

Can't wait for them to enable the flux capacitor. I keep hitting 89ghz instead of getting the desired effect at 88ghz.

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Can't wait for them to enable the flux capacitor. I keep hitting 89ghz instead of getting the desired effect at 88ghz.
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How's the battery life????

Requires lightning sadly... I don't **** with Albanians any more.

mafaesto said:
You might want to elaborate a bit more for other people, sounds like you are saying they are making hardware downloadable/hardware physical updates. Also what update would you be referring to with the super amoled screen that doesn't pertain to the digitizer?
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The source for the digitizer and amoled branched off into separate packages.

evilkorn said:
Requires lightning sadly... I don't **** with Albanians any more.
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hahah you guys are awesome.

[Q] Developer Edition Verizon Questions

Hi All,
I understand the differences between the Moto X sold by VZW and the Dev Edition in that the latter has an unlockable bootloader and more storage space but I have a few more in-depth questions about the device. I've called and asked Moto, but sadly I trust you guys to give me more accurate answers.
1. Will Android updated come directly from Motorola or will they have to pass through Big Red first?
2. Will VZW bloatware be on the DevEd?
3. Ay other interesting differences between the devices?
I don't really have any interest in rooting my device (tried to get some custom firmware on my PSP100 back in the day and bricked it), and want to (feel forced to) buy a phone on full retail to keep my UL data with promo pricing. Would this be my best choice? Thanks in advance for the help.

1. Will Android updated come directly from Motorola or will they have to pass through Big Red first?
I think future Android OS updates will more than likely be made available OTA by Verizon, unfortunately, despite it being a developer device. I've not heard nor read anything otherwise.
2. Will VZW bloatware be on the DevEd?
Not sure about this question, but I wouldn't be surprised if I saw bloatware.
3. Ay other interesting differences between the devices?
Other than the obvious unlockable bootloader, color scheme, higher storage capacity, there's nothing else that I know of to differentiate the developer edition from the regular consumer edition.

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Other than the obvious unlockable bootloader, color scheme, higher storage capacity, there's nothing else that I know of to differentiate the developer edition from the regular consumer edition.
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we get a cool inscription
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Can you confirm the absence (or presence, hopefully not) of Verizon bloat? If I'm paying 650 for a phone I don't have any interest in tinkering with, I'd like to not have to worry about useless apps sucking up the system resources.
Also, on a slightly unrelated note, I've noticed that the Verizon demo units are a little sluggish compared to the ATT demos. I'm assuming it's either a fluke or the demo app VZW loaded on it. Can any Verizon users confirm the phone is just as fast as the others?

just root and then freeze or delete the bloatware with titanium backup

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How could I possibly forget the most important feature of all?
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tkdftw said:
Can you confirm the absence (or presence, hopefully not) of Verizon bloat? If I'm paying 650 for a phone I don't have any interest in tinkering with, I'd like to not have to worry about useless apps sucking up the system resources.
Also, on a slightly unrelated note, I've noticed that the Verizon demo units are a little sluggish compared to the ATT demos. I'm assuming it's either a fluke or the demo app VZW loaded on it. Can any Verizon users confirm the phone is just as fast as the others?
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I don't think we'll know for sure if Verizon apps come pre-installed until someone actually receives their dev edition unit and lets us know. I personally wouldn't have wanted to deal with bloatware either, but since this model in particular does have an unlockable bootloader, rooting and removing these apps shouldn't be too much of a problem.

alex94kumar said:
just root and then freeze or delete the bloatware with titanium backup
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You don't even have to do that. Just go into Apps and disable it. It disappears from the app drawer.

icase81 said:
You don't even have to do that. Just go into Apps and disable it. It disappears from the app drawer.
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Are you finally allowed to do so even with bloatware apps? I think I vaguely recall not being able to accomplish this with certain Verizon apps on my Galaxy Nexus.

erik7970 said:
Are you finally allowed to do so even with bloatware apps? I think I vaguely recall not being able to accomplish this with certain Verizon apps on my Galaxy Nexus.
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Yup. Everything disappears.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4

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Yup. Everything disappears.
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That's great news. Maybe I won't need to root this device after all once getting...

[Q] Jelly like scrolling?

The Verge just published a review on the Droid Turbo and it says the phone has some kind jelly like scrolling. What do you guys think about it? Is it for real?
I can't post links here, so just search for "Motorola Droid Turbo review" on The Verge's website. They included a gif where you can see what I'm talking about.

I never noticed that on my Turbo.
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I notice it, but it's a subtle effect. If you scroll lightly on a long list of things in the web browser, you might be able to see it.

Yea I have no doubt seen that in the store. Really bothered me.

Mine doesn't do anything like that. Wonder if it's because I switched to ART or if it's only on some devices.

Mine doesn't do that, I even tried it on their site like was in their video and smooth as silk.

Yes, mine does the same thing, though it's not nearly as bad as their example. I'm hoping I'll just get used to it.

Yeah, I returned my Turbo because of the issue. If it gets sorted out with updates I may take the plunge again, but until that time I'm out. There is another thread in the general section talking about the same issue. It's referred to as screen warping in that one.

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That's the gif from theverge's review. I haven't been able to recreate this on my device, I'd recommend asking for an exchanged unit if you see it on your Turbo.

Arkasai said:
That's the gif from theverge's review. I haven't been able to recreate this on my device, I'd recommend asking for an exchanged unit if you see it on your Turbo.
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Yep, that's how mine and all of the display models were. It was more obvious when scrolling though the xda app. Just try holding your finger on the screen, pull it down, and then go back up with it without picking up your finger. Maybe it only effected the first models but I haven't saw one that doesn't have the issue yet. :/ I would have kept it if it weren't for that issue.

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Yep, that's how mine and all of the display models were. It was more obvious when scrolling though the xda app. Just try holding your finger on the screen, pull it down, and then go back up with it without picking up your finger. Maybe it only effected the first models but I haven't saw one that doesn't have the issue yet. :/ I would have kept it if it weren't for that issue.
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I have a feeling it's a display driver issue, as some other 2560x1440 devices have had varying degrees of severity with this issue. Mine appears flawless in all apps and websites on Chrome, so you might have more luck in the future with a more recent shipment of units.

I have two turbos with a Sept 24th build date, 64gb nylon, both do not have the jelly scroll issue. Tried numerous apps, but I could replicate what I see in that GIF.

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I have a feeling it's a display driver issue, as some other 2560x1440 devices have had varying degrees of severity with this issue. Mine appears flawless in all apps and websites on Chrome, so you might have more luck in the future with a more recent shipment of units.
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I hope you're right. I'm buying off contract so I would have to verify that the issue was fixed in person for me to take the plunge again. Like I said though, all of models that I have seen has it. It's been quite a few too.

I had this issue with my DROID that I bought about a week ago. Returned it since, it still had alot of kinks to work out.

My Turbo 32GB has an Oct 7 build date and I can't replicate that flaw on mine either.

I've noticed this at certain times on my Turbo. Honestly it's subtle to the point that I thought I was imagining it. At least for me personally it doesn't bother me at all. When I first saw it I actually wondered if it was intentional and thought it was kinda cool lol.

Can not replicate the gif. Tried and tried. Used chrome. Is that the browser everyone is using? I assume so since that's what the phone is shipped with. But you never know. I can see how that would be irritating

Just so we're all clear, what that gif is supposed to illustrate is the fact that when you scroll up and down things seem to expand and contract as you do so. Not the delay that appears to be in the gif, that is just part of the effect of the slow mo, all phones have that.
Every droid turbo I have seen has this effect. At this point I've seen it on about 15 phones. I've never seen a droid turbo that does not have it. It is most apparent on sites where there is a lot of color in blocks because it's easier for the eye to see the blocks expanding and contracting than with text
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Anyone know of a good website or app to test for this scrolling effect?
Sent from my XT1254

I see it on my turbo, disabling animations in developer options doesn't do anything. I am not sure its even an animation effect, it may just be some lag in the scaler. Its not specific to a particular app, its throughout android. Hopefully they address it in the next update.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the RED Hydrogen One, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the RED Hydrogen One is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Pretty much everyone in the Houdini program (pre-release testing) appear to just **love** their device.

I've had mine for about two weeks now and have grown to absolutely love it! While the industrial design may be a stark departure for some, the scalloped edges make me feel really comfortable not using a case. Its really clear that this device is well built.
It runs a fairly stock version of Android 8.1, and I receive OS updates every few days to address bug fixes. Funny thing is, I haven't witnessed any bugs myself. While it's not an SD845, most users won't be able to tell the difference at all. This thing FLIES! I think until the next snapdragon SOC shrinks down a bit to single digit nm size, the performance gains won't be significant enough for users to really be measurably different in real world tasks.
Battery life is bonkers! I'm constantly demoing the device at full brightness for several hours a day, and on those days will end with about 40% life left. On my "off days" of regular use, I will typically only get to about 60-65% by the end of the night. I'm quite comfortable saying this will last some users two days.
The camera is fantastic as well! I looked it up in AIDA and it doesn't say who makes them, but the specs say 12.3 MP and 1.55 μm cell size. There's a few devices on the market with the exact same specs and both are praised for their camera prowess. I think what makes this one so awesome is the spacing between the cameras, which makes for the awesome 4-View holographic effect but also creates an awesome depth of field mode. I'll see if I can post some samples later today. The 4-View screen is something you just have to see. I won't bother explaining it, but I'll say that adding depth to photos makes me feel like a great photographer, even though I'm typically best outfitted with a potato cam.

Just got this phone. Loving it! When can we root it? Come on, guys! Chop Chop!

StormCell said:
Just got this phone. Loving it! When can we root it? Come on, guys! Chop Chop!
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I just got my 2nd unit; so, I can start to experiment a little.
BUT, I have a *lot* to learn as my last Android device started
in KitKat and runs Nougat today. From a cursory look, quite
a bit has changed since then with a/b updates and the like.
Oh, and finding time for these experiments is another issue...

It's rootable but we need to get the bootloader unlocked. I'm going to ask Red if I can get the key. Will update once that happens.
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LucKyPunk said:
It's rootable but we need to get the bootloader unlocked. I'm going to ask Red if I can get the key. Will update once that happens.
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OEM unlocking is in Dev options...

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OEM unlocking is in Dev options...
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Yes I am aware... But my "houdini" unit needs a fastboot code. We're you able to unlock yours, without?
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Yeah, not yet. Rooting have been some time for me as I had an iPhone for a while and just switched back. Kinda learning again. But I did send a message to a RED team member asking for the unlock code so we'll see.

Just got mine today does anyone know how to take portrait mode pics. PS love it so far

I just installed the pixel 3 camera app and OMG does it unlock the potential of this phone.

LucKyPunk said:
It's rootable but we need to get the bootloader unlocked. I'm going to ask Red if I can get the key. Will update once that happens.
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If you bought directly from RED they will send you the Key to unlock. Hopefully you can work your magic with that. They are not allowed by contract to do that with Carrier phones.

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I just installed the pixel 3 camera app and OMG does it unlock the potential of this phone.
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You installed it on the RED ONE? How can you shoot 4V with that?

No you can't shoot 4v with the pixel camera app

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I just installed the pixel 3 camera app and OMG does it unlock the potential of this phone.
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I tried various versions but couldn't get it going, can you post a link to the one that works?

update all Red apps, and you can take portrait or landscape front and back

Good morning Red One users. I have an opportunity to purchase one of these from AT&T and was wondering if anyone can confirm that the speaker has gotten better for hands-free calling. I'm basing this off of a YouTuber who said he cannot hold phone conversations over speakerphone without the other party saying they can't understand him so he has to switch to handset. I've had a chance to see the demo and the AT&T store and they have only one left and they're holding it for me until close today.
I did notice when I was in the AT&T store looking at the demo I noticed the LG I was currently using had all of its signal bars but the hydrogen only had about 3. So I'm wondering if anyone has had any signal issues or drop coverage. I know this depends on your cellphone provider towers locations. Just wondering if anyone saw any drop off in cellphone coverage from previous devices?

I have both the AT&T version as well as the unlocked Titanium. Both operate on the AT&T network without issue. The signal bar has never dropped below half that I'm aware of and I have not had coverage issues even while traveling.

Question Redmi Note 10s - Camera issue. Please advise.

I purchased a Redmi Note 10s for about now 2 months. I understand it is a budget device, but I am trying to see if anyone who is more knowledgeable on Android than me knows what may be occurring here. Yes, I have tried to Google the solution but to no avail. I'm sorry.
The device works fine overall, but the other day I started the camera app and I noticed there is a line at the top of the frame when in any mode other than 1:1.
If I place the camera in a 1:1 ratio, there is no line (since it shortens the top), anything else there is this stuck annoying line at the top. Now, what is peculiar is that when using the stock camera app, and we go video, the line at the top moves according to how I move the device around, it is not stuck. Also, I noticed the line at the top changes color, depending on background and weirdest thing of all.. it applied this line to all my pictures that I took PRIOR to this issue occurring.
Also, I tried gcam and other camera apps. In photo mode, same story, line at the top is stuck, but when we go video on these other apps, the line now does not "move" like in the stock camera app but is also stuck in video mode as well.
Now, its either hardware or software I know. I have not done a total reset yet but may later on but since I got a bunch of logins and apps downloaded and what not, I wonder if anyone knows a solution about this issue.
Hardware: Impossible unless the build is this bad for Xiaomi Redmi devices. I never smacked the device, it never fell nor has any liquid damage. I babied it since day 1.
Software: I think it could likely be more a software issue than hardware but pls enlighten me why and how to fix.
Thank you,

Does it happen using every lens or just one lens? What you describe sounds like some sort of spirit levelling/guide lines, although they shouldn't be present on a saved image, unless some option is enabled to do so. Try resetting the app, just write down settings you want to remember first.
I recommend trying the gcam port app instead of the stock one too, much better images.

Post a sample photo and screenshot demonstrating the glitch.
it applied this line to all my pictures that I took PRIOR to this issue occurring.
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It is happening only with the main lens, not the others.
I went ahead and wiped data. Issue persist unfortunately.
When I point the camera towards a bright light, you can see the top line becoming blue and part of it disappearing.
Will post images soon to give you a better idea.
Yes I did try other apps such as gcam. Same issue.

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From the looks of it, it seems like you have a faulty sensor. Just have your phone replaced from where you bought it.

Agreed with jacobpayag, looks like an RMA job, for a faulty sensor.

I bought it from wirelessplace, and I am unable to return or exchange unfortunately since it has been over 30 days. I emailed them but.. I doubt they will do anything. I guess I will keep it as is. No Xiaomi CS in the USA, I do not believe I can RMA this device. Please advise.
Thank you,

Sorry I can't help you with consumer rights laws in the USA. I'd be surprised if you couldn't have it repaired or replaced within 12 months from purchase though.

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Sorry I can't help you with consumer rights laws in the USA. I'd be surprised if you couldn't have it repaired or replaced within 12 months from purchase though.
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Just called them and they only RMA devices sold within the USA, which does not include mobile phones or smartwatches.
I mean I'll keep the phone, its overall a great device and I am not huge on photos or anything but still.. to have a defect after 2 months? Not giving me much faith in their QC for future purchases.

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Just called them and they only RMA devices sold within the USA, which does not include mobile phones or smartwatches.
I mean I'll keep the phone, its overall a great device and I am not huge on photos or anything but still.. to have a defect after 2 months? Not giving me much faith in their QC for future purchases.
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That's why I still prefer buying phones physically. Also, you could try to repair the device yourself. I think you can buy the camera module online and AFAIK, you can replace each individual camera instead of having all 4 replaced.

You'll lose any waterproofing if you do open it up, it looks like a real chore to get started but here's a vid in case do: