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nexus one out of ram?

So since the first froyo leak I have been installing a bunch of differant roms just to get a taste of them all. From evil, king, rodriguezstyle, MoDaCo etc. I always wiped in between installs too. But as of lately I noticed my phone stuttering a lot. Becoming unresponsive and getting as low as 40ram free. I even went to a task manager and cancelled everything just to see if I would get my usual 240-260mb ram back but instead I would get a total of 90-130 after killing everything. Its so odd! I am on the new frf83 on stock launcher. Is there anything I can do to reclaim my old reliable phone? Wiping over and over didn't do it for me. Also, my n1 internal memory fluctuates a lot too but I'm not sure if its related. I have received a few low memory messeges.

Shameless bump! Just hoping the right people see this and respond.

If you have any memory available(even 10mb) then it would not stutter, sounds like your CPU is under heavy use.

Th3heretic said:
If you have any memory available(even 10mb) then it would not stutter, sounds like your CPU is under heavy use.
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Even when I remove all background processes using a task manager I end up with a lot less then what I have available at boot up. Usually 140mb! I'm running pershoots latest kernel @ 1.1ghz. I'm also on the newest setcpu.

Foorgot to mention, browser feels a bit beta and I crash the browser about 5 times a day. Wifi works great and occasionally disconnects for some reason. Phone also rebooted on me but that's super rare. Is there anything I can wipe besides the 2 wipe options in recovery?

sheek360 said:
Foorgot to mention, browser feels a bit beta and I crash the browser about 5 times a day. Wifi works great and occasionally disconnects for some reason. Phone also rebooted on me but that's super rare. Is there anything I can wipe besides the 2 wipe options in recovery?
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somewhere in between updating FRF50 to 72 to 83, I started having very slow performance despite free RAM.. I bit the bullet and wiped the phone and started over, installed everything back.. all is well and with FRF85B the phone is rocking again

pakraider said:
somewhere in between updating FRF50 to 72 to 83, I started having very slow performance despite free RAM.. I bit the bullet and wiped the phone and started over, installed everything back.. all is well and with FRF85B the phone is rocking again
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I'm on frf83. Where is frf85b?
I also wiped before frf83

sheek360 said:
I'm on frf83. Where is frf85b?
I also wiped before frf83
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http://android.clients.google.com/packages/passion/signed-passion-FRF85B-from-FRF83.f62ffd2b.zip

sheek360 said:
I'm on frf83. Where is frf85b?
I also wiped before frf83
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I can just install via recovery on my rooted n1? Should I wipe?

my nexus has always been this way, even on 2.1. on fresh boot the full RAM is shown. then after a few days it goes down slowly. but if you kill all apps, you never reclaim all that RAM back. only a reboot brings it back. obviously over time background processes are slowly accumulating, ones that you cant see with any task manager. however my phone has never gone into critical slow down from this, meaning it ALWAYS can still keep around 100 mb free by killing stuff, even with this memory leak.
also, the browser in froyo has been updated so that it caches web pages now a lot more. so when you check the browser in system panel, it will show that its using sometimes 75mb of RAM. this isnt a memory leak, it is just caching pages now so that A) it doesnt have to refresh from the network, and B) so when you hit back button it doesnt always have to reload from the network.
this is an issue logged on the google forums, and some employees replied back that they made this change in froyo. check out the response.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2171

[Q] Time to scrap lagfixes? (JPA/JPO)

Has the time come to finally scrap all the lagfixes with the release of JPA/JPO?
Please, no Quadrant or similar synthetic arguments against. The "real-feel" of the phone is the only relevant benchmark.
So, in your experience in the operation of the new firmwares, comparing them in a native vs. lagfixed state, is it time to dispense with the lagfixes?

Don't think so....
But JPO is speedy when fresh.
Lag is still there, less noticable, but there, you can feel it especially during parallel download and installing apps or when you have a running background updating/sync process.
Voodoo is mature enough anyway, infact, I kinda do miss Voodoo's brightness and color fix on 2.2.

I'm on Jpa,don't feel the NEEd for lagfix...i gets' hung for a while on installation and other small slowdowns,but it's really good overall (noticeably better than cooked jpm/jp6,at least)

Nope, no reason to dump them yet...
Media scanning still takes a while in stock, while with a lagfix it's about 2 seconds. So the phone is in a fully usable state much sooner after booting or when adding/deleting media on the phone.
I also used DolphonHD browser as a test.
On a fresh boot on stock firmware, it takes about 6 seconds to start up.
With a lagfix (I used Advanced EXT4 with one of those custom kernels) it starts up within 2 seconds on fresh boot.
Samsung needs to dump this RFS crap, it's a horrible joke.

There is definitely still lag and random pauses in JPO, no question about that. Although it may be a slight improvement over previous Froyo betas, you still need an EXT4 lag-fix to eliminate the lag and pauses that exist in stock JPO.

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Has the time come to finally scrap all the lagfixes with the release of JPA/JPO?
Please, no Quadrant or similar synthetic arguments against. The "real-feel" of the phone is the only relevant benchmark.
So, in your experience in the operation of the new firmwares, comparing them in a native vs. lagfixed state, is it time to dispense with the lagfixes?
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No - user experience (especially with RSS reader) is still much better with OCLF (10 times faster).
Maybe, if I didn't use RSS reader which requires fast IO I'd live without OCLF...

Oops! I voted no, but wanted to vote yes!
I use JPO and I experienced lag without apps installed.. So clean it lagged. I didn't clear the sdcard before the lag (I think it's useless), but I did reset to factory defaults.

Just like all the Eclair releases, Froyo certainly seems to be getting better with every "release". As already mentioned a few posts earlier, JPA certainly zooms when fresh.
That said, it really is too soon to get rid of lagfixes. When Froyo matures to the level of, say JM9, then would be an appropriate time for such a thought. Till then, hello Voodoo....

The best test of lag would be NewsRob imo. Can someone with a non lagfixed JPO test it out? I can already confirm it flies on JPO + Voodoo.
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I dont have any real lagging issues on my phone but I can see that moving around the inbox is definitly faster with a lagfix, the rest of the phone operations are pretty smooth woth Doc's JPO and the modded kernel.
Compared to ther lesser speced phone the SGS is pretty slow so yes it does need a lag fix at certain functions

[Q] need help with multiple issues

Okay it all started when I updated my original Samsung Galaxy S i9000 running Eclair to Froyo I9000XXJP3 using Samsung Kies. Since then its been really slow and very laggy. I ran around Google for a bit and found some clues about doing a factory reset just after updating to Froyo. To do this I would like to download all apps that can be installed onto and SD card to my SD card so I dont have to re-install all the 111 apps I have after factory reset. It would be pretty cool if someone told me how to backup my contacts, ALL of my settings, my email, basically EVERYTHING on my phone that I would have added on myself after I started using it. Of course I am guessing that the default Samsung Apps that came with the phone and are still available on Froyo will still be available after the factory reset.
My next problem. While someone on these forums tell me how to backup ALL of my data (apps, contacts, media, etc........) onto an SD card before factory resetting I decided I will try to root my phone and apply OneClickLagFix V2.2+. So I used an Windows app called SuperOneClick to root my phone, successfully. After this I installed OneClickLagFix, gave it permission. Then I installed the OneClickLagFix V2.2+, also successfully. After this I tested my phone with Quadrant Benchmark and I got a score of 1956 (which is amazing because I had got 915 before I had applied the LagFix). This is all amazing, but I realised that my battery is draining really fast, because usually if I don't use my phone in the night while sleeping for approx.6-8 hours it drains little to nothing of the battery, but after applying the lag fix I left it on at night (with full battery) while sleeping and when I woke up it had only half of its battery left, so I am guessing OneClickLagFix V2.2+ drains my battery while trying to speed up my phone which is really not helpful (which is why I would like to try to factory reset as a means of speeding up my phone without draining battery).
The third thing, still related to the topic of battery power and speeding up Froyo. I realised that even after applying the OneClickLagFix V2.2+ and gaining a Quadrant mark of 1956, my Galaxy S still did not have the iPhone style smoothness I would expect from the powerful 1Ghz processor in the phone, so please dose anyone have any ways of basically speeding up the phone (with iPhone style smoothness) and not draining battery.
My next thing is not a problem, it's just for fun. I heard that the Galaxy S's CPU can be overclocked to 1.2GHz and 1.6GHz. Could someone post a guide that explained in detail what I have to do to overclock my Galaxy S because I am quite new to hacking my phone and things like that.
So my questions so far:
How to speed up my Froyo phone (make it very fast and smooth like the iOS) without draining too much battery?
How to backup EVERYTHING (like all my downloaded apps, contacts, SMS, etc..) before factory resetting?
How to overclock CPU to 1.2GHz and 1.6GHz?

Hi, I'm still running 2.1 Eclair but maybe i can help a bit. I very much doubt that its OneClickLagFix draining your battery, ive been running it for over 6 months without any problems and so have thousands of others but you could try looking through the OneClickLagFix thread just in case
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784691&highlight=oneclicklagfix
Next thing, are you running a task manager or process killer? they can drain the battery while they kill a process and it starts again and gets killed again and starts agai...... you get the idea
I use AutoKiller Memory manager from the market. This works with the built in android process killer and just tweaks it to work better. I find the moderate preset setting to be good but others have suggested going further so you may need to experiment on that.
Also are you sure you didnt install another 'rogue' app? some apps are known to stop the phone from going into sleep mode and that would also cause battery loss at night.
As for backing your things up, AppBrain from the market will take care of your apps if you make an account with them and use your Google log in. It will remember which were installed and put them back when you are ready, I dont think it will save 'in game' data like saves and such though. I cant help with contacts, messages and the rest, sorry.
Lastly, to overclock it you will need to be rooted (as you said you are) and use an app called SetCPU from the market. But be warned, firstly it is guaranteed to cost more battery power overclocking it and the phone will get hotter in use. It will however speed things up a little IF it doesnt blow up LOL. The opposite would be to underclock and save power but then it would run slower and you don't seem to be aiming for that
Good Luck

Thanks!
Thanks for the help, I used App Brain to sync apps and also backed up my apps using Titanium Backup to my SD card, which also backed up the app data. Also, I backed up my contacts by pressing the menu button on the contacts screen and exporting. To backup my messages I used SMSBackup. It all worked well.
I will look into the battery matter, yes, I am using Advanced Task Killer but after reading your response I did not re install it after the factory reset. I will definitely try AutoKiller Memory manager and look into the battery matter further if it doesnt change things.
I tried SetCPU but it only lets me move the sliders upto 1GHz, not higher. Any help is appreciated. And also I just want to try the 1.2GHz, because I am guessing 1.6GHz will REALLY push things past the limit and might mess things up. If things mess up with 1.2GHz I will put it back to 1GHz, and if you had not told me I wouldnt have known about the heating problem, thanks .
How does overclocking work anyway?

Similar issues like whoosh with my phone too.
Pre froyo (no root no lagfix) - app drawer page transition smoothness superb. No lag or stutter in transitions.
Post froyo (pre root and lagfix) - stuttery app drawer page transitions.
Root and voodoo lagfix have not fixed that problem.
- Quadrant ~1500
- formatted internal sd card.
- factory reset post froyo install.
- formatted ext sd card.
- ext sd card sandisk class 4 16gb.
Any solutions to above issues would be greatly appreciated as i would assume would also assist op with their issues.
Cheers
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Hey, erm, I thought the Galaxy S has 512MB of RAM but the RAM manager is 300 and something MB of RAM. Maybe thats why it is so slow, because i would expect iPhone-style smoothness from a 1GHz Processor and 512MB of RAM, but looks like it has a cap on. Is there anyway we can fully uncap the RAM usage, so all the 512MB is used? that would be helpful

problems fixed
I used the power of my rooted phone to titanium backup (pro recommended) and then backed up all apps with user data. I factory reset my phone which speeded everything up A BIT. then i discovered Darky's ROM 5.5 (maybe higher by the time some read this post) and installed that following the CLEAN guide written very well (video too) on his forum (CLEAN recommended to upgrade from normal galaxy s firmware to darky's ROM then EASY guide for upgrading from past versions of Darky's ROM).
After following the guide, everything booted up perfectly (amazing gingerbread experience, it feels and looks a lot like it, just missing vibration from gingerbread keyboard and some gingerbread icons, also if darky reads this, maybe you should integrate the new Nexus wallpaper in, but its not that hard to install it yourself either so its fine).
I set the phone up, redownloaded Titanium Backup and it took about half an hour to restore all my apps (with all data). Also note that before I had installed Darky's ROM 5.5 it had taken me 1 and a half hours to restore apps using Titanium Backup so you can see how significantly fast Darky's ROM is. It is amazing!
Well done!

[Q] Is my Galaxy S more laggy than everyone elses?

I've had a 16gb Samsung Galaxy S on Three in the UK since they launched last year, and it's the only Android phone I've used.
It's pretty laggy, but since I'd read a lot about Galaxy lag online, I assumed this was to be expected.
However, I had to help a colleague with a problem on their HTC Wildfire today (a lower spec phone, as far as I know), and was amazed how much more responsive than my Galaxy S.
It didn't seem to show any of the laggy, hanging-ey behaviour I experience. I have more apps installed than the Wildfire, but I'm quite careful not to install anything that's going to run at startup or cause problems (mostlly just games, no widgets, etc.)
As an example, if I turn the phone on clean, wait for everything to be loaded and ready (media scanning to finish, etc.) then poke the "Market" button, it takes 28 seconds for it to be loaded and responsive. Close that, poke the Facebook button, over 20 seconds until I'm shown the news feed. Sometimes when the phone rings on my desk, I literally won't be able to get it to respond enough to answer the call before the caller hangs up. If I try to switch from program to program, I end up getting quite a lot of frustrating 20-30s hangs and pauses. This is all on a decent wifi connection, so the problem isn't data related.
The question is - how laggy should a Galaxy S be? Would it work better if I added an SD card (with the 16gb phone memory, I didn't see the need)? Is it worth installing a lagfix under Froyo (I tried one back on 2.1, but didn't notice a huge amount of difference)?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I think its sometimes very busy rebuilding it's wifi connection. Or some other process.
Am not sure.
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I didn't see any speed difference with SD card IN/OUT so i don't think you will have faster phone by inserting it (SD card).

Why don't you try a reset and see if that works? Also are you on eclair or froyo because that would make a world of difference if you upgraded

I just got my sgs from bell Canada last Tuesday. It has all stock with launcherpro and a few Widgets. So far (knock wood) its been a big step up over my HTC dream. I experience maybe 10 seconds of startup lag and then for the rest of the day its awesome. My firmware version is the newest one bell offers (jl2 Frito). What android version are you running?
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That's exactly my experience. The only way to solve it is with a good lagfix and/or flashing JPY firmware
This will get almost instant loading of apps and only minor lags when switching apps. It's still slow when scrolling icons and such... my previous phone, iphoe 3g, is still faster than this crap-phone
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My Galaxy S was laggy as hell brand new out of the box. Sometimes it would hang for what seemed like 10 seconds. I didn't like the Samsung launcher anyway, so I did my homework, made sure I could get into 3-button download mode, and then rooted, wiped and flashed a custom Froyo ROM. I've tried a few ROMs since then and have landed on Insanity with EXT4 lagfix.
Now my Galaxy S is _awesome_ ... I don't even bother overclocking it, everything is smooth.

try a task killer and set it up to auto kill when screens goes off done a few tests with it ,one with no killer and one with and the one with was faster and had no lag fix running too go to the market and get quadrant standard try it for yourself and see

What's the current firmware you're using ? I suggest flashing to JPY and testing it out.

Update to JPY!
If not possible, install a lagfix on your current ROM/kernel.
The amount of lag you describe is terrible, I have never seen it that bad...

I don't think the lag should be that bad, I did experience some occassional lag back on eclair, but never exceeded 5-10 seconds. Usually after loading whatever that app was once, it'd be okay on the next open too.
Since I've upgraded to JPY i see 1-2 second lag extremely rarely.
Maybe you can get a task manager and see if anything is hogging memory?

Thanks for all the responses. The firmware is FROYO.XXJPO, so I'll definitely try flashing to JPY and will report back! Thanks so much for the tip!

[Q] Phone Unresponsiveness

Hello Community!!
I am seeing a problem with my Revo, and I'm putting it out here because you guys are good at finding answers.
I am running Gingervolt 1.3 with the blitzkreig kernel installed. I have previously tried Hicks' little ICS responsiveness script.
Here is my problem. Most days after little to moderate use, Phone/text, I have to reboot my phone by either soft reboot (power button) or a hard reboot (battery pull) because nothing at all is responding. By nothing I mean, touch the screen..nothing, open a program...nothing...etc.
It is a slow degrade sometimes where (and my wife has mentioned it using my phone) that the touch screen is really really laggy and non responsive, especially when using a keyboard or even trying to play angry birds.
I have done a full wipe including data, cache, dalvik. I have formatted my internal and removable SD card, I have not used previous backups, instead resorted to downloading programs and installing from scratch.
This is a very frustrating issue. If it was a computer I'd say either the processor was overworking, or the ram was used up. But since we don't use program killers in GB I'm kind of at a loss. And I'm tired of having to wipe my phone every few days just so I have meh performance (and no, I'm not hating on the phone, or the rom or any of the developers, nor do I have any interest in changing phones,etc)
I'm just looking for suggestions/solutions etc. I'm sure I missed something in my troubleshooting steps.
Thanks in advance for those who read through this and try to give a hand. I appreciate it.

Wow. Since you've already gone to extreme measures, I'm at a loss. My suggestion would be to freeze the apps you do install to look for a culprit there. Or, don't install any and see how the phone performs.
I restored a nandroid prior to Google's 10¢ apps promo and my phone is back in fine form. It was lagging badly before that. I was rebooting daily. Now I go for days and the phone's solid.
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I was experiencing similar issues about a week after updating to blitzkrieg 1.0. I restored from backup and it's been stable since. I just installed 2.0 today, so I'm curious to see if it'll have the same effect.
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I can't say yet whether or not 2.0 has added to or taken away from the response type issues. I did have to do a couple of battery pulls yesterday just to get firefox to do anything. I'm going to uninstall that one. I may, just for S&G's do one more factory wipe and put all the tweaks and mods in place before downloading anything but the most essential programs. I did this phone, but the unresponsiveness sometimes can be a real pain.

What do you have it clocked at? I have issues at 1.9 so maybe back it down a bit. I get lots of screen freezes and have had some rebooting issues at 1.9
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What do you have it clocked at? I have issues at 1.9 so maybe back it down a bit. I get lots of screen freezes and have had some rebooting issues at 1.9
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Currently I have it at 1.7, before when it was really bad, the oc wasn't sticking and I was at 1024, so not overclocked much. I am sure its an app that is causing the problem, but I'm not sure what.

I've never had this type of issue using Blietzkreig or any of the other tweaks so I'd guess you're right in thinking it's an app. Since you've pretty much tried everything else I would say maybe try going back to complete stock then rooting again? That just seems like what I would try if I had tried everything else and nothing worked.
And yeah you definitely don't want to overclock too much because it could definitely damage the hardware of your phone since it's not meant to run at that level. But you said you had it at 1.0ghz so it doesn't seem like that is the problem unless the damage was cause when running at 1.7ghz. I had mine at 1.9 and didn't see any issues except my phone randomly started to vibrate for a while then just restart. It did that twice when i first flashed everything but it seems fine now. I brought it down to 1.0ghz just cuz i'm not really using it now and I don't want it causing any problems with the hardware.

Thanks for the Feedback everyone. I am not sure what the issue is/was/going to be. I think Firefox was a big part of it and I have since removed it. But I am still getting random freezes, almost like the deep sleep while the screen is on. Oh well, maybe I do need to go back to complete stock.