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Isn' t this a Dev section in a Dev forum ?

Well yea nugh said .

Yup. It would appear that there are either a) no dev's in this section of the forum, or b) everyone is lazy and just wants to wait for someone else to do everything for them. lmao.

hey there glad to see one sharing my opinion , at least there should be a mod moving all the really useless stuff from here to the other section .. oh wait a minute thatbe 99% of the threads in here

with u buddy gunna request a Dev so much work is to be done.milestone/droid is an awesome peice of hardware infact it beats most of the new phones arm chip cmon where the Devs @ ?

To be fair, it is quite silly that Milestone & Droid have a joint General section. A lot of questions have answers specific to one or the other. So all my Milestone specific qs go here since it is the only Milestone-only subforum.

Christ almighty, what's the point of 'requesting' devs to do anything with this device when we already know it's not possible to do anything with it? What, you think just because they created a sub-forum for the Milestone on XDA suddenly everything would come up roses?

Unimaginative said:
Christ almighty, what's the point of 'requesting' devs to do anything with this device when we already know it's not possible to do anything with it? What, you think just because they created a sub-forum for the Milestone on XDA suddenly everything would come up roses?
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well if no one tries how will we make progress?there must be a way to bypass bootloader we must try.if devs never tried then none of us would ever have root so stop with the dumb remarks

Unimaginative said:
Christ almighty, what's the point of 'requesting' devs to do anything with this device when we already know it's not possible to do anything with it? What, you think just because they created a sub-forum for the Milestone on XDA suddenly everything would come up roses?
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the point of this thread is not to request dev to do soemthing , witch obviously they are busy doing/trying otherwise this section wouldnt exist ...
the point of this thread was merely an attempt at keeping this section clean of 'froyo is coming in july ' or how do I rooot on 2.1 type of questions you get the drift ...

DAGr8 said:
the point of this thread is not to request dev to do soemthing , witch obviously they are busy doing/trying otherwise this section wouldnt exist ...
the point of this thread was merely an attempt at keeping this section clean of 'froyo is coming in july ' or how do I rooot on 2.1 type of questions you get the drift ...
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In which case there needs to be a distinct Motorola Milestone General forum. I don't want to ask that question in "Droid and Milestone General" and get responses from Droid users. Until then, this is the go-to place for Milestone-only questions.

cmstlist said:
In which case there needs to be a distinct Motorola Milestone General forum. I don't want to ask that question in "Droid and Milestone General" and get responses from Droid users. Until then, this is the go-to place for Milestone-only questions.
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Well yea exactly my point , not to start the argument with you about it , obviously this will become something else then a Dev section and it will 'soon-become' the not go-to for the Dev because it will be a mess .
I know for my part they are forums I go daily for news , and eventho this was one of them this current setion will soon become one to avoid.

[Q] Hey Devs, whatcha gonna do with the new Froyo source?

Unless I'm mistaken, there now is only one Dev out there that has stuck by Captivate code. As someone who places a high value on the Audience voice chip on the AT&T devices, I am very interested to see if more devs will look at this newly released source and make something of it, either new or port their existing top-notch work. I've tried, and liked, many of the I9000-based ROMs, but I keep coming back to the Cappy-based ones due to the voice quality.
So Devs... any interest? I'm sure that I'm not alone from a user perspective.

I would like to see a kernal based off the released source that also has the voodoo sound added to it. I am sure there is a lot that can be done and it will take some time.

I was thinking of flashing to something new, but with the source available, I think it's time to be patient. Can't wait for a semi-up to date ROM with full captivate compatibility!

this belongs in Q&A section

I believe whole heartedly that the ROMS the DEVs are putting out are fantastic and do everything I want and need in a ROM.
OTHER then the audiance chip support. It would be cool to have in the roms as an ability but not necessarily required.

See sig below - this post doesnt belong here. *facepalm* The devs will do what they do, when they decide they wanna do it - noobs coming in here constantly asking for sh*t only irritates them and pushes them away from bringing us the good stuff....

bames said:
this belongs in Q&A section
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I thought about that, but I put it here for two reasons:
The developers come here regularly, and not necessarily the Q&A section
This is a question directed directly at the devs, not necessarily the user community
Make sense?

Devs still read the Q&A - how about reading the forum rules and abiding.... this is un-needed clutter in the Dev section

dalewest said:
I thought about that, but I put it here for two reasons:
The developers come here regularly, and not necessarily the Q&A section
This is a question directed directly at the devs, not necessarily the user community
Make sense?
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Regardless, if you feel the need to post about this topic in this section, there is already a thread about it. Post your question in there. No need for another thread.

jgc121 said:
See sig below - this post doesnt belong here. *facepalm* The devs will do what they do, when they decide they wanna do it - noobs coming in here constantly asking for sh*t only irritates them and pushes them away from bringing us the good stuff....
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Not trying to start a flamewar or anything... while I only joined last November, and my post count is indeed low, please don't assume that I'm here asking for candy. I comb these forums many times daily, and only post when I can't find the answers I'm looking for.
As for irritating the devs by asking for stuff... I've noticed that for the most part, they actually like the feedback, and want to know what the users like. I see no problem with providing input. Like I said, I posted here because the Devs come here, and not so much to the Q&A section.
Lastly (and maybe this should have been clearer in my OP), only one dev seems to be working on Captivate kernels, with the rest working on I9000 (since source has been around a long while). What with new hardware around the corner, dev interest for the Cappy might be waning. I thought it a fair question.

dalewest said:
I thought about that, but I put it here for two reasons:
The developers come here regularly, and not necessarily the Q&A section
This is a question directed directly at the devs, not necessarily the user community
Make sense?
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No..does not make sense. If you read the forum rules it will be clear why it doesn't make sense.
Not trying to start a flame war either was just trying to redirect you and prevent further endless flaming if you continued to post in the wrong section.

Last thing I wanted was to tick people off
But it seems that's exactly what happened.
Apologies to those that I irritated, especially the Developers to whom this thread was directed.
Out.

dalewest said:
I thought about that, but I put it here for two reasons:
The developers come here regularly, and not necessarily the Q&A section
This is a question directed directly at the devs, not necessarily the user community
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So just coz it says "Hey devs" means it should go to the Dev section?
I thought the development section was actually for development... Apparently I was wrong
uuugh..

bames said:
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Agree completely!! Dev(s) do read other forums

I have question about the source code that was just released. How do I implement it into my build enviroment?
I mean ok I extract the file. Then read the readme file. It says to overwrite the modules I want to build. Is there a general rule to what should and should not be over written. I have compiled the generic code but nothing device specific.

OMG! You DARE to post here?
dalewest said:
But it seems that's exactly what happened.
Apologies to those that I irritated, especially the Developers to whom this thread was directed.
Out.
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LOL. No apologies needed. This thread that you started is essentially the same as opcow's, except that he posted the news before you did. All that followed in his thread, however, was very similar to the responses in your thread.
Similar, but different - different because the hall monitors didn't flame anyone in that thread! Why not?? Because, methinks, for the most part, those in the other thread were more "senior" than thee, Mr. Dalewest. Get it? There's a pecking order here that must not be violated.
Strange, but I didn't notice any ROM devs complaining in your thread or Opcow's. I did, however, see some silliniess in the other thread, such as "Charlie Sheen throwing some pixie dust" into the new ROMs, but no cries of outrage over that. Then come some self-appointed spokespersons for the devs in your thread saying the devs this, the devs that, "Ooh, the devs are going to get upset," etc. [Sigh]
The source of KB1 dropping has been mentioned since yesterday or before in various threads here, and I didn't see any devs getting upset about it. The KB1 source dropping is certainly related to development. IMO it's perfectly fine to post it in Development. Your are not asking a general question - you are asking what the devs have in mind vis a vis development, now that KB1 has dropped.
That said, given that there was already another thread, you shouldn't have started another one. Consider your wrist slapped, ha, ha.

dalewest said:
But it seems that's exactly what happened.
Apologies to those that I irritated, especially the Developers to whom this thread was directed.
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no worries.
not ticked here. my original post was just to redirect you and try to help you avoid the flood of responses and/or flames that were sure to come.

Roms

Would someone care to reference the difference between all the roms? JVS etc every week that I come on here I have to search what the new rom letters mean. Maybe you can make a sticky making it easier for everyone?

This thread is not going to end well.

I don't really care, they sticky everything so why not what roms are for our phones and what ones are ported. Also what order the came out in. Im done with the captivate this weekend anyway, its only a suggestion.

First, id say what your looking for is already clearly available. 2nd, id say this should be in the development section.
Sent from my SGH-I897

justin860 said:
Would someone care to reference the difference between all the roms? JVS etc every week that I come on here I have to search what the new rom letters mean. Maybe you can make a sticky making it easier for everyone?
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Look here, thanks and credit to sammobile.com----
http://www.sammobile.com/threads/36-Samsung-Letter-Code. This is good with i897, but I'm still not sure about the i9000 rom lettering system, i.e JVT = ??
You may have to register and login to see this, not sure though. Hope it helps anyway.

conantroutman said:
I'll get straight to the point....
Despite stickys and forum announcements most of us are still finding ourselves becoming terribly, terribly vexed at the amount of [Q]'s cluttering the dev section...
Therefore, from now on, if you do not follow the rules outlined below, you will be infracted. Break them again and you may find yourself unable to post anything at all on any forum!!
If you cannot read and abide by the simple rules in this sticky then I dont know how you're going to manage to hack your device without running into trouble.​​
The Dev section is NOT for asking questions.....
The Dev section is NOT for general topics..........
All threads posted MUST be prefixed with a description of the thread, [ROM] / [Kernel] etc etc.....*
*(Not planning on being particuarly strict on this. You guys (the devs), know how to title a thread.... just a pointer for new devs.)
Basically, unless your thread is to actually release something or discuss something of a very technical and n00b unfriendly nature, it doesnt belong here!
Pretty simple really.....
If you see something that shouldnt be here then PM me....
I will try to check in as reguarly as I can but I have a few sections to keep an eye on and believe it or not, a life outside XDA
Yes thats right, there is life outside XDA​
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right from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1184814​

^ +1
Agree 100 %
And I answered his question the way I could to try to help a little.
And I knew this thread would eventually get moved.
PM'd conantroutman to request the move just in case no one else has.

nh5 said:
First, id say what your looking for is already clearly available. 2nd, id say this should be in the development section.
Sent from my SGH-I897
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you mean this SHOULDN'T be in the development section.

[Q] Sources for NovaThor U8500?

Hi community, I have a question. Is out there a way to get the sources from novathor? Can we push to ST to release sources?
We can do this with the Xperia P, U and sola users, they want that too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2171038
And is a igloo kernel for our SoC, but I think it is very buggy.
http://www.igloocommunity.org/gitwe...og;h=29a3e1ef73daaa91cbf5cce2fb475f1878254402
And one last thing, I've founded this on Igloo dev section support.
http://www.igloocommunity.org/support/Android_Releases#Jelly_Bean
Is for our SoCs I think.
So can we make a good request to ST or igloo? my idea is to push them to release a consistent source for our SoC.
Any dev or user with time can help me?, I'll find some experience user in Xperia U forum and deliver to him my idea if he want to colaborate.
EDIT: Can we use this SE Novathor U8500 source from CM git to port or build CM for our device?
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/sony-kernel-u8500/tree/jellybean

Lol. You think we don't know about igloo?
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Shaaan said:
Lol. You think we don't know about igloo?
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Sorry, I'm just a noob that has discovered america
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Shaaan said:
Lol. You think we don't know about igloo?
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Because replying in a friendly fashion is just too mainstream...

JoaoGuiPan said:
Because replying in a friendly fashion is just too mainstream...
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You guys forgot that in a first time you was a noob user too. If you wanna respect from other "non experienced users", please respect them too.
This forum is not for devs and gods, is for people that deserve a right answer for their questions. Unless obviously disrespectful commit.

d14gvn said:
You guys forgot that in a first time you was a noob user too. If you wanna respect from other "non experienced users", please respect them too.
This forum is not for devs and gods, is for people that deserve a right answer for their questions. Unless obviously disrespectful commit.
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Agree with you.....
Samsung Galaxy S Advance
Rom : Jelly Bean 4.1.2 I9070XXLQ4
Kernel: CoCore E-4.4-TWRP
I Am WhAt I Am

First things first! I wasn't rude in my reply. If you felt so, then i am sorry.
d14gvn said:
You guys forgot that in a first time you was a noob user too. If you wanna respect from other "non experienced users", please respect them too.
This forum is not for devs and gods, is for people that deserve a right answer for their questions. Unless obviously disrespectful commit.
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Yes. I was a noob too. But there was a big difference. Every time we even thought about posting a new thread, we used to fear. Every time we tried to kang, we used to take permissions from every person involved. Things were very different back then. People used to read, search! Now i hardly see anyone actually reading or even searching for answers. Want an answer, make a thread. This is what xda has come down to.
This forum is not for devs and gods, is for people that deserve a right answer for their questions.
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Well then i can only say that you haven't understood xda AT ALL.
Xda was made with the main motive for developers to share their work and seek help from other developers. XDA was meant to be a discussion platform.!
Now ask your own self. How many of you follow the forum rules? How many of you actually read!? I generally don't term anyone as a noob. But this forum takes the worst out of me. No matter how many times someone tries to tell something. Some people just fail to understand!
Some people call me Android police. Why? Just because i reciprocate?
I mean look at cocafe or Diego. If you notice carefully, they are slowly abandoning all threads. Now you guys can understand what i am saying!
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Shaaan said:
First things first! I wasn't rude in my reply. If you felt so, then i am sorry.
Yes. I was a noob too. But there was a big difference. Every time we even thought about posting a new thread, we used to fear. Every time we tried to kang, we used to take permissions from every person involved. Things were very different back then. People used to read, search! Now i hardly see anyone actually reading or even searching for answers. Want an answer, make a thread. This is what xda has come down to.
Well then i can only say that you haven't understood xda AT ALL.
Xda was made with the main motive for developers to share their work and seek help from other developers. XDA was meant to be a discussion platform.!
Now ask your own self. How many of you follow the forum rules? How many of you actually read!? I generally don't term anyone as a noob. But this forum takes the worst out of me. No matter how many times someone tries to tell something. Some people just fail to understand!
Some people call me Android police. Why? Just because i reciprocate?
I mean look at cocafe or Diego. If you notice carefully, they are slowly abandoning all threads. Now you guys can understand what i am saying!
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Dude, I agree with you that XDA was born to be a developer forum and that cocafe and diego are indeed slowly abandoning all threads BUT, when new people start to take interest in this, and I mean real interest, you simply throw some rocks at them! And then they leave too ¬¬
There is simply too much information about Android and sometimes it's practically IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND THEM ALL! I had never heard of igloo before, and when someone gathers a whole bunch of information and asks in the GENERAL section, not the DEV one, about it, you treat as if he was asking how to get JetMod 3 working on JELLY BEAN!!!!

JoaoGuiPan said:
Dude, I agree with you that XDA was born to be a developer forum and that cocafe and diego are indeed slowly abandoning all threads BUT, when new people start to take interest in this, and I mean real interest, you simply throw some rocks at them! And then they leave too ¬¬
There is simply too much information about Android and sometimes it's practically IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND THEM ALL! I had never heard of igloo before, and when someone gathers a whole bunch of information and asks in the GENERAL section, not the DEV one, about it, you treat as if he was asking how to get JetMod 3 working on JELLY BEAN!!!!
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I already said that i had no intentions of being rude. If i sounded rude, i have already apologized!
And for the record, i do encourage such posts.
Also, a simple search on Google will provide you with the igloo git!
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Shaaan said:
... Also, a simple search on Google will provide you with the igloo git!
I do not respond to tech support via PM
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If you do a simple search in GENERAL SECTION about the novathor SoC (I mean discussion to port CM or anything about that)
You will find THIS, THIS, THIS and THIS
And the thread that inspired me to create this one is this thread., that is in another phone section
I didn't find a proper discussion thread about that so I created one, did you see a genuine discussion thread about de NT SoC and a discussion to find a way to get all the proper drivers for the SoC on JB? In xda general, questions you will don't find it.
Do you think that is a noob way to explain a situation and make some questions to get opinions?
Finnaly, in this thread Shaaan, the first post can be an example for you, that guy was respectful.
I can understand that you find all of those information months (even years) ago, but if you don't publish that, we will don't know that you have knowloedge about that stuff.
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Signed !
Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9070

Sooo.. im still in same position that i believe that some threads have to be open only for devs and give for one or two users (shut_down is the best example) the info, releases, changes, etc. to be posted in general section for the rest of users. That is the best way to separate the devs works in one place and the rest of users in other place because leaves a good workspace for devs without noobs interrumpting..
I will sign when arrive home, im on bus now and its hard with the extra full people capacity in it..
Enviado desde mi GT-I9070 usando Tapatalk 2

Signed :thumbup:
Sent from my GT-I9070 using xda premium

I rofl'd .
I can't believe there someone more sensitive than me
Don't rail at me when I make mistakes, I'm a sensitive guy and there's a high chance I might turn unstable.

Signed. Might help the Ace II community.

JoaoGuiPan said:
when new people start to take interest in this, and I mean real interest, you simply throw some rocks at them! And then they leave too ¬¬
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I will throw rocks. Only the person who can come out successfully out of it can do some valuable contribution to the community! If a person leaves developing just because he was flamed, then he wasn't destined to be a dev at the first place!
Don't get me wrong here, but if you really want to do something for the community, this is the way to go.
I am what i am (no matter how small i am, but i think i have earned atleast 2% of respect on xda), because people threw rocks at me when i was new. That is the hard way of learning, but it is the best one.
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back at the topic guys. i am a user of xperia sola that uses the novathor u8500 soc and i created that petition. we need to fight and get those sources atleast the essential ones.
if we dont have those source, chances are we will be stuck at 4.1. i was contacted by a person working at novathor on google+. i was dealing with him. he kept telling us about the igloo community and snowball board, i told him they arent of help. he said he would sound the insiders regarding our situation. no response yet :\. need your support too.

srprashant91 said:
back at the topic guys. i am a user of xperia sola that uses the novathor u8500 soc and i created that petition. we need to fight and get those sources atleast the essential ones.
if we dont have those source, chances are we will be stuck at 4.1. i was contacted by a person working at novathor on google+. i was dealing with him. he kept telling us about the igloo community and snowball board, i told him they arent of help. he said he would sound the insiders regarding our situation. no response yet :\. need your support too.
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Just signing a petition won't help. Get the devs involved. And mean all devs working on STE UX500
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STE Novathor U8500 Sources
STE novathor u8500 sources
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2625365
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49799159&postcount=149
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49800053&postcount=152
Please download before it disappears!

ROM for our beloved S5

If you like Roms, then go and check out his development for S5 G900f. It's really great! !
I hope, it's okay to advertise this here.
Regards
Mod Edit: No its not, they left XDA so to respect their wishes we won't allow XDA to be used to drive traffic to their site.

Already using it, SUPER ROM!!!!!
Using this rom for some time now and its super stable no laggs long battery life

Can I ask who told you this LIE??
Pls tell me its not a moderator again..pls i really hope we are not stooping to this level...
Echoe Development left xda because of the way i was being treated by the hierarchy..
but this is not the place or a subject that should be of anyone's business...
pls tell me who told you this lie though..
After people have been proven to kang my roms on the S4..
in case this gets deleted, which prob will, please find me and tell who told you this LIE please

friedrich420 said:
CAN I ASK WHO TOLD YOU THIS LIE??
Pls tell me its not a moderator again..
Echoe Development left xda because of the way i was being treated by the hierarchy..
pls tell me who told you this lie though..
After people have been proven to kang my roms on the S4..
in case this gets deleted, which prob will, please find me and tell me if a moderator told you this lie...
because a couple of them have been saying this ABSOLUTE LIE to users and they are still here free to bully people around..
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Im not telling thats its true, i always used your roms on my s4 and now on my s5, but ive seen it on your kernel in the special thanks thingy
And i dont believe that you steal things, have seen your roms and looking at the code you've done everything yourself.
But all your roms left xda?
Btw, im trying to log in on your forum using tapatalk but it dont load at all or must i continue using the browser version?

Hey friedrich, always loved your ROM when I was using S4. I didn't knew you're still cooking...good to know because I got a S5 now and will flash some bliss to it

Sock12345 said:
Im not telling thats its true, i always used your roms on my s4 and now on my s5, but ive seen it on your kernel in the special thanks thingy
Not gonna post the an image dont want you to be banned again..
But all your roms left xda?
Btw, im trying to log in on your forum using tapatalk but it dont load at all or must i continue using the browser version?
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my friend i never said you claimed this..
but in order for you to say this, it means someone is spreading that NASTY RUMOR!!
And i think its only fair to me to know who is spreading these lies...
We shouldnt continue with this.. i cannot talk about my development here or about anything non-xda related.... the only reason i posted is because i was informed that there was a post about me supposedly leaving xda because of stealing...
just one question to the moderator spreading these vicious lies: how can i steal when in anything i develop I ALWAYS (and i mean ALWAYS!!) release first??
i prefer we talk about this via pm's..

friedrich420 said:
my friend i never said you claimed this..
but in order for you to say this, it means someone is spreading that NASTY RUMOR!!
And i think its only fair to me to know who is spreading these lies...
We shouldnt continue with this.. i cannot talk about my development here or about anything non-xda related.... the only reason i posted is because i was informed that there was a post about me supposedly leaving xda because of stealing...
just one question? how can i steal when in anything i develop I ALWAYS (and i mean ALWAYS!!) release first??
i prefer we talk about this via pm's..
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Alright ill pm you

@friedrich420
What with G900i variant? It would be really really nice to install your ROM in G900i devices...
Do you plan develop your great ROM to this device?
Thanks in advance!!!
Best regards!

friedrich420 said:
my friend i never said you claimed this..
but in order for you to say this, it means someone is spreading that NASTY RUMOR!!
And i think its only fair to me to know who is spreading these lies...
We shouldnt continue with this.. i cannot talk about my development here or about anything non-xda related.... the only reason i posted is because i was informed that there was a post about me supposedly leaving xda because of stealing...
just one question to the moderator spreading these vicious lies: how can i steal when in anything i develop I ALWAYS (and i mean ALWAYS!!) release first??
i prefer we talk about this via pm's..
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Tried to send second pm but your box seems to be full

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