I have been on the S7 forum from day one. Many of us tried doing what we could but it was DJ Steve who got EVERY S7 user excited about our tablets.
I truly believe that this entire situation got blown way out of proportion.
Well XDA, it was a pleasure hanging out.
Laterz....
AGREED!!!!
These people complaining about "Source Code" this and "GPL" that , is bull, when you are using a modified binary kernel, and not compiling from source, which is not available anyway, why is there any problem ...
Ok now to be fair, you MODS need to go into EVERY forum for EVERY device on XDA and lock/close/delete any thread with a modified binary, you know ALL the winphone 7 stuff, all the android apk's , and anything that is not 100% user created and that has no source code with it ...
Stick that up your GPL ass ...
+1 crying DS7 user. Just got it a couple months ago and DJ made it usable. Thanks DJ. I'll keep supporting you on your new site. Don't let those swine give you an guff!
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Holy [email protected]#!!!! This thread is not closed.....I'm gonna hit the Lotto this week
Ok... I'm missing something but what happened to DJ Steve? I will do some searching but seriously Dell might have given us the hardware, it was Steve that made both the Streak 5 & 7 useable. If XDA did something strange to DJ Steve, why? I must have missed something.
DJ Steve, thank you for your work on the Streak & will be talking to Michael about you soon.
sidenote did anyone see the new Dell Android Market?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.dell.mobileshopsupport&feature=search_result
jackedint said:
Ok... I'm missing something but what happened to DJ Steve? I will do some searching but seriously Dell might have given us the hardware, it was Steve that made both the Streak 5 & 7 useable. If XDA did something strange to DJ Steve, why? I must have missed something.
DJ Steve, thank you for your work on the Streak & will be talking to Michael about you soon.
sidenote did anyone see the new Dell Android Market?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.dell.mobileshopsupport&feature=search_result
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XDA enforces the rule that if you are working the GPL (public license), then you have to provide the source kernel. DJ Steve got the kernel through a "back door" of some sort, and could not provide it without revealing his sources. So XDA shut down his thread; he got upset and went to a different site.
XDA is very strict about keeping within copyrights & etc. (so as to not get sued), and not posting the kernel does violate the GPL, but he would have released it when Dell updates the S7 to HC. It is too bad, though.
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hello everyone, I recently purchased a dell streak 7 and actually love it but have been disappointed in the lack of rom development for the device. it makes me feel like i purchased the device that nobody cares about. everyday i check the development section just to see the same post. there is never anything new so i was wondering why this sub-forum still open???? I dont think we really need a whole sub-forum just to see when dj steve releases an update for the same rom. One developer should not warrant a whole sub-forum. This makes me wish i would have hung on to my g-tab.
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hello everyone, I recently purchased a dell streak 7 and actually love it but have been disappointed in the lack of rom development for the device. it makes me feel like i purchased the device that nobody cares about. everyday i check the development section just to see the same post. there is never anything new so i was wondering why this sub-forum still open???? I dont think we really need a whole sub-forum just to see when dj steve releases an update for the same rom. One developer should not warrant a whole sub-forum. This makes me wish i would have hung on to my g-tab.
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U can just as easily leave xda .... it takes time to pick up extra developers. Learn yourself and put out your own rom !!!
I've started on it myself..... I know a few others who have too.... learning takes time ! ALSO FYI, We already have 2 different froyo builds, 1 honeycomb build, and Ubuntu partially functioning. I've talked with 2 people who have already started trying their hand at gingerbread. Nothing official there yet though.
Most of us have jobs and families..... time isn't so abundant. If u have the time then do something about it and stop complaining
Donating to developers is also an incentive ........
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mods please move this where it belongs.
avoid Android - get an Apple device
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hello everyone, I recently purchased a dell streak 7 and actually love it but have been disappointed in the lack of rom development for the device. it makes me feel like i purchased the device that nobody cares about. everyday i check the development section just to see the same post. there is never anything new so i was wondering why this sub-forum still open???? I dont think we really need a whole sub-forum just to see when dj steve releases an update for the same rom. One developer should not warrant a whole sub-forum. This makes me wish i would have hung on to my g-tab.
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that type of service - you got the wrong device - I would suggest you return your streak and get an Apple itouch - where everything is on silver platter for you....and rom updated for you all you do is download....
pyraxiate said:
U can just as easily leave xda .... it takes time to pick up extra developers. Learn yourself and put out your own rom !!!
I've started on it myself..... I know a few others who have too.... learning takes time ! ALSO FYI, We already have 2 different froyo builds, 1 honeycomb build, and Ubuntu partially functioning. I've talked with 2 people who have already started trying their hand at gingerbread. Nothing official there yet though.
Most of us have jobs and families..... time isn't so abundant. If u have the time then do something about it and stop complaining
Donating to developers is also an incentive ........
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Agreed. Im working on an better kernel right now, but I am deployed to Iraq, so I got **** going on. But, hopefully something soon guys.
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binarybishop said:
Agreed. Im working on an better kernel right now, but I am deployed to Iraq, so I got **** going on. But, hopefully something soon guys.
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You are the man
Hopefully working bluetooth and overclock
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I've a Linux box and some working knowledge. I'm no Dev but if you give me a quick rundown and or pointers, I could lend a hand with compiling ..... I just haven't compiled on x86 for arm.
Kernel for what? Froyo? Hc kernel source isnt out yet for the 7 seems how it hasnt been officialy updated yet? Unless you know something i dont?
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Oh and to the op sell your 7 and get your gtab back.
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that type of service - you got the wrong device - I would suggest you return your streak and get an Apple itouch - where everything is on silver platter for you....and rom updated for you all you do is download....
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lol...some funny stuff...
Threads like these may warrant closure.
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Ok. I have read that DJ_Steve has left because people keep hammering him for source code of his kernel. I'm not sure where you are getting your information, but he has stated the situation quite clearly. He has no source for honeycomb. He wishes he did. All is Streak 7 users wish he did. He would be able to do even better work than he already has!
Read carefully.
Try to keep up people, this is gonna get real complicated.
DJ_Steve has no honeycomb kernel source code. As in none. As in, not any.
No source, no modify.
No modify, no post modified code to post.
No modified code, no GPL issues.
No GPL issues, no issues.
But you people still bellyache that he didn't post code. Um. News flash. He didn't have, and thus couldn't modify.
Answer me this, if you people are soooooo concerned about the good of the community.
Where is this source code, and why is DJ_Steve refusing to post it, of he has it?
I'm sorry, but developer, moderator, or whatever, if you people can't understand this simple situation, your far too stupid to be a benefit the android community. Please sell your android devices and go buy pretty Windows Mobile phones. DJ_Steve is right here, and your stupidity has lost this forum a developer who is a great asset. Well, good luck with that.
I doubt anything will be done to resolve your mistake, your probably far to busy with the source code police to actually understand this at all, but I hold out hope that there is a moderator with a brain who will try to fix this.
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This train has already left the station, where have you been?
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This train has already left the station, where have you been?
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He is just venting. I bet everyone complaining for the source is already running his Roms. I wish there was a way to block them on the new site . . . .
Hell... I bet those of you who cried for a source wouldn't even know the first think about compiling.
Good job on running out one of the only devs !!!
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Ok. I have read that DJ_Steve has left because people keep hammering him for source code of his kernel. I'm not sure where you are getting your information, but he has stated the situation quite clearly. He has no source for honeycomb. He wishes he did. All is Streak 7 users wish he did. He would be able to do even better work than he already has!
Read carefully.
Try to keep up people, this is gonna get real complicated.
DJ_Steve has no honeycomb kernel source code. As in none. As in, not any.
No source, no modify.
No modify, no post modified code to post.
No modified code, no GPL issues.
No GPL issues, no issues.
But you people still bellyache that he didn't post code. Um. News flash. He didn't have, and thus couldn't modify.
Answer me this, if you people are soooooo concerned about the good of the community.
Where is this source code, and why is DJ_Steve refusing to post it, of he has it?
I'm sorry, but developer, moderator, or whatever, if you people can't understand this simple situation, your far too stupid to be a benefit the android community. Please sell your android devices and go buy pretty Windows Mobile phones. DJ_Steve is right here, and your stupidity has lost this forum a developer who is a great asset. Well, good luck with that.
I doubt anything will be done to resolve your mistake, your probably far to busy with the source code police to actually understand this at all, but I hold out hope that there is a moderator with a brain who will try to fix this.
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Actually, my understanding is that he said he does have access to the source, but was unable to post it because it would reveal the person who provided it.
No he clearly started that a friend of his hacked the kernel so it would work with honeycomb but he has no access to the source. There is no source code for honeycomb yet. Someone is missing something here. Google hasn't release the source for honeycomb yet so no rules have being break here. And in the process we lost a great Dev and a few Android users.
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No he clearly started that a friend of his hacked the kernel so it would work with honeycomb but he has no access to the source. There is no source code for honeycomb yet. Someone is missing something here. Google hasn't release the source for honeycomb yet so no rules have being break here. And in the process we lost a great Dev and a few Android users.
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They wanted him to post the kernel, which he had, but he felt he could not reveal his source.
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I had both the 7 and 5 streaks. No better or nicer dev than DJ Steve. Really sad that the mods and other users at xda are jealous of talent.
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I had both the 7 and 5 streaks. No better or nicer dev than DJ Steve. Really sad that the mods and other users at xda are jealous of talent.
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You really have no idea what you're talking about. Be upset with Android and GPL, not xda and its users. Jealousy did not push DJsteve away.
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Hello thar XDA, I thought I'd introduce myself seeing I am registered on the forum but have only really been lurking around. Sorry if I have put this topic in the wrong place. So, my name is Nate (as you can tell) I own an SGS2, running XXLP7 (is that the latest one for South Africa?), running SiyahKernel 3.5.2 and loving it. I'm really loving SiyahKernel (thanks Gokhanmoral, God bless you), not had any problems at all with it. His kernel sort of encouraged me to play around with my GS2 but not doing anything even remotely extreme seeing as I'm still relatively new to Android (got my phone on December 18 2011). I'm looking forward to interacting with the community and would love to learn android development but have got limited time (my last year of college).
Best regards,
BMW4LifeNate
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Hey! welcome to XDA! gl on android devlopment
lokenok said:
Hey! welcome to XDA! gl on android devlopment
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Hi lokenok, Thanks, but I will only be starting in the December holidays. Very interested in android dev so as I said I'd like to get into it.
Best Regards
Nate
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Are you at Wits?
Nope, when I said college I mean High School (you know, because in the USA and Europe they call it college). I'm wanting to go to Wits next year but they are waiting to see my final matric results before they decide. Unfortunately I didn't take last year seriously so now I'm paying for it :banghead:
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Help!!!!!
Uh guys, I hate to say it but I did something stupid with my SGS2. I used Rom Toolbox Pro and installed a boot animation (went fine) as well as a battery icon tweak. That did not go so fine, as the status bar disappeared. THinking I could restore the SystemUI.apk I tried it and now my phone is stuck at bootloop. I neglected to make a backup, so will I have to start from scratch? Please help, I'm seriously stressing about it
Regards, Nate
Edit: Ok, that was kind of extreme. I need help to fix this, anyone know what's going on???
Edit2: BUMP
This is not a rant or a moan or whatever you want to call it. This is just clearing a few things up after the last few days what i have been reading on the forum.
Firstly support for N4 will still be there after this update, and i am sure we have at least one more major update to come for our beloved device. People saying that our phone will be next are just talking rubbish. People all over the forum are crying thinking that our device will be next. Until a confirmation from Google can people please stop with the conspiracy theories.
Also regarding with the launcher. Now i am not that really bothered if it gets released or not as i do not use Google Now. But again were is the official confirmation that the launcher will not be included for our device? There is none. Just tech sites writing there stuff as usual and every one is lapping it up and making a fuss.
I love my phone and i do not see a reason why i should upgrade to the Nexus 5. I do not want though people in the forum to start moaning about things that are not official yet from the God itself which is Google. Yes they are not perfect but until the actual release gets to our device and we have things missing then fine all hell can break lose.
Oh and one last thing. Yes am gutted that we not got the update soon as the release came out but we are still the first to get it were other mega devices are not getting it at least December or Xmas the earliest..So am still thankful for the Nexus line. But that will start not meaning anything soon anyway if they carry this new strategy of there to put money first before anything else.
But till then please take a chill pill people.
This will get shut down and deleted am sure but i just wanted people to read this and seriously take it easy till there is ACTUAL CONFIRMATION by GOOGLE THEMSELVES..
Mods sorry if this should not be here but sometimes a man has enough when reading through the forums and having whiny kids whine all the time.
And to add...We are XDA...If things go missing and are not included in the build that our beloved N4 should get then people trust our great and respectful Developers here who are if you do not mind me saying better than those at Google..We will have those features that the N5 has and if not should be better build than stock...So please show your support for our devs and less whining and help this place for newbies instead of moaning all the time about something that has not been confirmed yet
:highfive: for you!
This is exactly my opinion on the subject.
If you are on XDA, odds are that you know how to mod your phone, and believe me, everything that will not come with the official OTA will be made avaliable soon here on XDA.
Right, you might need root, you can argue you do not want to root but then what is the point of your anger if you do not want to take action to get something you want?
Just wait for Google to release the OTA and everything will be clear!
Should be soon I guess
Ignasiuz said:
:highfive: for you!
This is exactly my opinion on the subject.
If you are on XDA, odds are that you know how to mod your phone, and believe me, everything that will not come with the official OTA will be made avaliable soon here on XDA.
Right, you might need root, you can argue you do not want to root but then what is the point of your anger if you do not want to take action to get something you want?
Just wait for Google to release the OTA and everything will be clear!
Should be soon I guess
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exactly my friend. until something has been confirmed i do not understand why people are panicking. and by the next update which will be by summer time our phone should be more than capable to handle it and i am sure we are in for that to. phones should have a support from the OS development team ie Google at least maximum two years...so why are people are stressed is beyond me.
Now as the Galaxy Nexus that is a strange one and Google should state the reasons why they are not supporting it but again that is nothing to do with me or concerns me..But for people to start saying that the N4 is next is beyond silly to say
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But again were is the official confirmation that the launcher will not be included for our device? There is none. Just tech sites writing there stuff as usual and every one is lapping it up and making a fuss.
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Sure there is confirmation. It is not included in the Nexus 7 WiFi KitKat update. And Google confirmed it with The Verge and said it is possible they will bring it to other devices other than the N5 someday but not initially.
Great post OP.. You know what I think it is? Purely my opinion after mulling over how absolutely weird the 4.4 rollout and release has been.
Ever been in a corporate environment where someone important is replaced? It's hell.. JBQ left and was replaced.. So here you have a new guy who is pulling the old corporate "I'm new and have to flex my superiority and change things to make it look like I'm doing something different and being productive" (ie: Fishing for his next promotion).. This happens in nearly every business.. It's hilarious to watch happen in real life because most employees know it's coming.. 3 months later after everyone hates the new guy and his useless changes everything goes right back to the way it was. I'm certain all the rumblings this is causing is being heard..
This is all very nice but it makes my think longer and hard did l make the right decision buying a nexus 4.With the ota out for nexus 7 and 10 l just wonder what the delay is with nexus 4
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In b4 lock
No please, not again.
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No please, not again.
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Its called discussion. If you do not want to participate then don't post. Hence why the other thread got closed
Cause useless posts like yours
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Please enlighten me, what's the difference between your thread and the one that got closed. You've already labeled all that don't share your point of view by "whiners" (btw weren't you the one that also happened to "whine" at the beginning? ) so what do you expect? It's obvious that any sort of discussion won't be possible here. Your thread will sooner or later became exactly the same place of mindless arguments and eventually closed.
But you're right. If am not interested to participate so I am done. Good luck though, I am sure you're get many "thanks".
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Goku80 said:
Now as the Galaxy Nexus that is a strange one and Google should state the reasons why they are not supporting it but again that is nothing to do with me or concerns me..But for people to start saying that the N4 is next is beyond silly to say
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It has to do with the Ti core not being supported anymore. Also, not being supported by Ti did not meant it doesn't work for Galaxy Nexus, just means Google would not support a device without former support to its hardware.
Anyways, Galaxy Nexus got 4.4 already, go Install it
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Please enlighten me, what's the difference between your thread and the one that got closed. You've already labeled all that don't share your point of view by "whiners" so what do you expect? It's obvious that any sort of discussion will be possible here. Your thread will sooner or later became exactly the same place of mindless arguments and closed. Good luck though
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Isn't this the waiting room for nexus 4 owners that are waiting on the ota?
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Please enlighten me, what's the difference between your thread and the one that got closed. You've already labeled all that don't share your point of view by "whiners" (btw weren't you the one that also happened to "whine" at the beginning? ) so what do you expect? It's obvious that any sort of discussion won't be possible here. Your thread will sooner or later became exactly the same place of mindless arguments and eventually closed.
But you're right. If am not interested to participate so I am done. Good luck though, I am sure you're get many "thanks".
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It is not about getting many thanks..To be honest got enough already as it is. Now moving on
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This is all very nice but it makes my think longer and hard did l make the right decision buying a nexus 4.With the ota out for nexus 7 and 10 l just wonder what the delay is with nexus 4
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Notice the GSM/LTE tablets haven't got an update yet either...
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Isn't this the waiting room for nexus 4 owners that are waiting on the ota?
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To be honest the reason why i opened this thread is to get my opinion about the many things that i have read on the forum. Many false information that is going around by others is beyond ridiculous because they listen to tech sites most of them without any proper confirmation by Google itself...Now as to regarding the updates that are coming for our device if there is an official changelog by Google to say what are the changes from the older nexus devices compare to the N5 then i will eat my hat if it is out already stating what we are getting and missing out on..
But again people forget that XDA is here to help..Hence why we should not be ranting and raving
What am trying to say is that i want this thread to stick to a proper adult discussion about our device regarding the build that we should get..And i do not want people to give mis-information till we get it from the Big Boss itself
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I can understand your point here OP but, the purpose of forums such as this one is to allow for open discussion on a topic. I see no issue with speculation or assumption as long as people keep their heads. That is, after all, what makes things interesting and keeps people intrigued. If we went purely on the facts at hand 100% of the time, discussions would end fairly quickly and most forums would be desolate places.
Just my .02
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Hi all, can anyone develop ubuntu touch for us? @szezso if you can pls develop
It's not ready for general consumption. Read some of the reviews.
Blast you for raising a non-dev topic in the Dev subforum!
Also, developing is not as simple as words outta the mouth, it takes quite some effort to port Ubuntu Touch even for flagship devices, let alone ours. Szezso has his own life just like ours, thus we must remember that he devotes his free time to dev for us for absolutely nothing. He is already busy with dealing with unfinished issues in CM11, don't bother bogging him down with another request, especially if the request is put forward casually.
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AndyYan said:
Blast you for raising a non-dev topic in the Dev subforum!
Also, developing is not as simple as words outta the mouth, it takes quite some effort to port Ubuntu Touch even for flagship devices, let alone ours. Szezso has his own life just like ours, thus we must remember that he devotes his free time to dev for us for absolutely nothing. He is already busy with dealing with unfinished issues in CM11, don't bother bogging him down with another request, especially if the request is put forward casually.
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Hey bro its only question, i know we all have our life, but when happens when i asked that question
vuvkar said:
Hey bro its only question, i know we all have our life, but when happens when i asked that question
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If you treat it a question then why post it in the Dev section? General section is where these belong.
Additionally, like said above, Ubuntu Touch is currently very limited in function. As I experienced the "stable" version on my Galaxy Nexus 2 months ago, only calling, SMS and basic web experience can be guaranteed, many apps are just placeholders or won't work properly. So even if you somehow persuaded someone to build, your excitement won't last longer than 10 minutes, I can almost guarantee that.
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vuvkar said:
Hi all, can anyone develop ubuntu touch for us? @szezso if you can pls develop
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lol are you like related to the other guy who wants somebody to build a rom for him just so that he can flash a theme?
if so, GRAB SOME BOOKS AND LEARN FOR YOURSELF.
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lmao
doesn't xda force people to watch the "you are a noob on xda" video when they sign up?
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lmao
doesn't xda force people to watch the "you are a noob on xda" video when they sign up?
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clearly not lel
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