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I've been experiencing an unusual issue on all Cyan builds since the builds requiring the ADP1 image to be flashed prior to the Cyan image. I'll provide as much info as I can along with my own thoughts
Every morning I wake up to my Market notifications and the number of updates available is always one (1) more than the actual number of " new updates available" in the my downloads section e.g. even when there are no new updates in "My Downloads" I get a notification saying "1 new update available".
I found this on t-mobile help which highlights the same problem however iv not had any residual apps left after uninstalling like these people have.
After a full wipe and reflashing the ADP1 and Cyan image respectively, i have not installed anything from Market this is My Downloads list:
Google Maps (installed)
Google Search by Voice (Installed)
SuperUser whitelist [Blackginsoft] (Installed)
Terminal Emulator [HelloAndroid.com] (Installed)
Yet i still get a notification every night.
I think the issue may be one of the latter two on the list as I know in both cases they are not the same apps as Cyan has included in his build although they do have the same named APK's in /system/app
Cyans Terminal has been modded to look black and have additional features and the one on the Market is a rip from the AOSP tree by HelloAndroid.com.
Cyans SuperUser has been modded to be faster and easier to use and has a new icon of the Ninja, but the one on the Market is the old nasty version from JF old builds that have the blue # as its icon.
I know Cyans included Log Collector is out-dated and new version is available but i have removed this from the settings menu because I dont need it so it cant be causing the problem.
Has anyone else had this problem?
Does anyone know if its any of Cyan's included apps causing the problem?
do you have apps2sd? if so then do
Code:
su
rm -r /system/sd/dalvik-cache
reboot
See if that helps
Good luck
Ah of Course!
borodin1 said:
do you have apps2sd? if so then do
Code:
su
rm -r /system/sd/dalvik-cache
reboot
See if that helps
Good luck
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I never thought about excess data being held in the cache.
Only question before I do so... will doing this wipe any settings?
Thanks
No. It will take a long time for that first reboot though so don't freak out.
And no guarantee that it will fix it neither but it never hurts to clean dalvik once in a while anyway. Let us know... we may have to try something else if this doesn't work.
Still No Luck
borodin1 said:
No. It will take a long time for that first reboot though so don't freak out.
And no guarantee that it will fix it neither but it never hurts to clean dalvik once in a while anyway. Let us know... we may have to try something else if this doesn't work.
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I cleared the cache and rebooted. After reboot went into Market and then came out of it and almost immediately after the Market closing I recieved a notification of 1 new update. Checked My Downloads and everything is reporting Installed.
Whats next?
P.s. Thank you so much for your help.
Very lovely....
Well... just to rule this out
Code:
ls /system/sd/app
ls /system/sd/app-private
ls /data/app
ls /data/app-private
ls /system/app
See if there's anything that you might have install at some point but don't use anymore/uninstalled. Basically, anything out of the order.
Do a nand backup and rm any left-overs that may cause problems if you know what you're doing. Otherwise paste a log/screenshot of your findings and let someone else look thru it.
You could also clear data from Checkin Service, Download Manager, Market and Market Updater. Not sure if this would help though since you're coming from a clean install and wiped multiple times.
Try it out. Always back-up your work though.
Stupid Question
borodin1 said:
Very lovely....
Well... just to rule this out
Code:
ls /system/sd/app
ls /system/sd/app-private
ls /data/app
ls /data/app-private
ls /system/app
See if there's anything that you might have install at some point but don't use anymore/uninstalled. Basically, anything out of the order.
Do a nand backup and rm any left-overs that may cause problems if you know what you're doing. Otherwise paste a log/screenshot of your findings and let someone else look thru it.
You could also clear data from Checkin Service, Download Manager, Market and Market Updater. Not sure if this would help though since you're coming from a clean install and wiped multiple times.
Try it out. Always back-up your work though.
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I was wondering if I ask a pretty stupid question that I've been wondering for some time that may help me understand the structure of how android stores its app data.
For example if I set up a program to do something and it remembers those settings, where does it store that data. Does it write it into the actual apk itself? Or does it store it in another directory somewhere?
If I knew this I could make sure I fully backup and remove every trace of Term.apk, VoiceSearch.apk, and Superuser.apk. I'll then wait for the Market to forget that I have downloaded these items previously (Data which i assume is briefly held on the Google cloud under my Google account) Once that is refreshed i'm going to push the 3 files back to /system/app. I'm certain its one of these apk's causing the problem and this is the only way i can think to make Google forget I have downloaded them previously.
So anyway back to the main question... If for instance Term.apk remembers my settings for background color and font size etc, where does it keep this data?
*Update*
I have backed up and removed the 3 apk's VoiceSearch.apk, Term.apk and Superuser.apk from system/app
Next I tried to remove all traces I could find of each:
Code:
adb remount
adb uninstall com.android.term
failure
adb uninstall com.google.android.voicesearch
failure
adb uninstall org.zenthought.su
failure
I don't know why the uninstallation failed. Is this because Package Manager cannot uninstall system apps?
As these failed I manually removed the data from /data/data/:
Code:
adb shell rm -r /data/data/com.android.term
adb shell rm -r /data/data/com.google.android.voicesearch
adb shell rm -r /data/data/org.zenthought.su
Now there is no trace of each app, however My Downloads in Market still says:
Google Search by voice (Installed)
Superuser Whitelist (Installed)
Terminal Emulator (Installed)
Have I missed something out? Or does Market take a while to update/refresh the My Downloads list?
Hi.
I´ve tried to backup a couple of paid apps. Astro tells me the apps are private and won´t backup. On Mybackup Pro the apps are not even on the app list.
Is it even possible to make a backup of a paid app ?
Filgaliel said:
Hi.
I´ve tried to backup a couple of paid apps. Astro tells me the apps are private and won´t backup. On Mybackup Pro the apps are not even on the app list.
Is it even possible to make a backup of a paid app ?
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If your paid apps get deleted, the market will still show them as having been purchased. All you need to do is re-download them.
Wow, I forgot posting this..
The problem is that I paid for a couple of apps while running an Android 2.0 ROM. Now i´m running a hero 1.5 based ROM some of the apps I paid for don´t show up in market.
Did you try to back them up with "Backup for Root"? It should backup every apk without bothering you with protected ones, I think.
Otherwise you can backup all your apps with a single command using adb (I personally do it that way) :
assuming you want to put them in the same folder as Astro...
adb shell cp -r -f /data/app/*.* /sdcard/backups/apps
Hope this helps
Edit : I forgot that the protected apps were put in the app-private folder so to have all apps you have to do two commands, here is the second one
adb shell cp -r -f /data/app-private/*.* /sdcard/backups/apps
I'll try both methods. Thanks a bunch.
swissp said:
Did you try to back them up with "Backup for Root"? It should backup every apk without bothering you with protected ones, I think.
Otherwise you can backup all your apps with a single command using adb (I personally do it that way) :
assuming you want to put them in the same folder as Astro...
adb shell cp -r -f -p /data/app/*.* /sdcard/backups/apps
Hope this helps
Edit : I forgot that the protected apps were put in the app-private folder so to have all apps you have to do two commands, here is the second one
adb shell cp -r -f -p /data/app-private/*.* /sdcard/backups/apps
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SwissP
Must the phone be rooted to execute this ? I'm running a Droid on 2.0.1 - TIA
swissp said:
Did you try to back them up with "Backup for Root"? It should backup every apk without bothering you with protected ones, I think.
Otherwise you can backup all your apps with a single command using adb (I personally do it that way) :
assuming you want to put them in the same folder as Astro...
adb shell cp -r -f -p /data/app/*.* /sdcard/backups/apps
Hope this helps
Edit : I forgot that the protected apps were put in the app-private folder so to have all apps you have to do two commands, here is the second one
adb shell cp -r -f -p /data/app-private/*.* /sdcard/backups/apps
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I tried the adb method and after i type out the "adb shell cp -r -f -p /data/app-private/*.* /sdcard/backups/apps"...it says multiple values entered or something along those lines and gives me a list of option with the definition of each -r -f etc. I dont know if that is supposed to happen and if it is...whats the next step.
As well i tried the backup for root users and i had one paid app "crystallight" that i was experimenting with...the crystallight app was backed up as a .zip while majority of the other apps were .apk...
How can i reinstall the crystallight on to my phone...i tried the restore function in backup for root users and nothing happens.
I also tried the method as stated here: http://theandroidsite.com/2009/11/2...ns-for-root-users/comment-page-1/#comment-517
And i get errors with this method too.
I have a HTC Hero rooted and running firmware 1.5
Thanks in advance
Sorry I forgot this thread.
Yes, you will need root as I think you wouldn't be able to access the content of the /data folder without it.
I just tested and found that you cannot use the -p parameter with the app-private folder (I don't think it's needed for the app folder either so you can remove it on both adb commands), sorry for that. I don't know what could be the problem on the Hero though. It should work the same.
About the app in .zip, I'd just try to rename it to .apk and install as usual
Filgaliel said:
The problem is that I paid for a couple of apps while running an Android 2.0 ROM. Now i´m running a hero 1.5 based ROM some of the apps I paid for don´t show up in market.
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If the app require 2.0 (or more likely 1.6) as a minimum OS level then they are not going to show up, or work, if you are now running 1.5. Your phone tells the Market what version of OS you are running, and the Market filters the available apps, based on that.
Titanium Backup
You can use Titanium backup on the market, if your phone is rooted and has SQLite and busybox, to backup/restore all of your apps, and market data for them - just search for it.
But, I dont know how to recover paid apps without buying them again, unless you use this.
Hope this helps.
HunteronX said:
You can use Titanium backup on the market, if your phone is rooted and has SQLite and busybox, to backup/restore all of your apps, and market data for them - just search for it.
But, I dont know how to recover paid apps without buying them again, unless you use this.
Hope this helps.
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what is and how do you know if you have SQlite? is it an app?
Filgaliel said:
Hi.
I´ve tried to backup a couple of paid apps. Astro tells me the apps are private and won´t backup. On Mybackup Pro the apps are not even on the app list.
Is it even possible to make a backup of a paid app ?
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Titanium backup will work for all paid apps. I just tryed it myself. It makes it nice....
bjtheone said:
If the app require 2.0 (or more likely 1.6) as a minimum OS level then they are not going to show up, or work, if you are now running 1.5. Your phone tells the Market what version of OS you are running, and the Market filters the available apps, based on that.
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Yes, based on your explanation, the above is exactly why you cannot see them in the market. Apps are filtered by version. Even if you have the apps backed up, it doesn't mean you can run the 2.0 apps on 1.5.
SQLite
DeSim said:
what is and how do you know if you have SQlite? is it an app?
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If you open titanium backup and it says YES to SQLite on the opening screen, then its in your rom. I think SQLite is for queries and databases, but is not an apk, but a system binary - sorry if i'm wrong.
While I know editing the ROM and resigning the zip file is a method, one I generally use, I get tired of doing it every time since I do the nightly CMs.
Is there an app or something that can be used to remove stock apps? I HATE Amazon MP3 and stock weather and such.
I've heard someone say something about Spare Parts but I don't seem to see any way to remove apps with it....
I use root explorer from the marketplace. It's not free but it's well worth it imo.
trojanz said:
I use root explorer from the marketplace. It's not free but it's well worth it imo.
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I don't know why I didn't think about that lol.
I have RootExplorer..where exactly would I find those apps though? Looking in the /system folder under apps, I see the system apps but I don't see such apps as Amazon or Weather (though I assume they may be under different names?)
They should be in the /system/app folder, but in their full names. It'll be something like "com.android.MP3.apk"...You just gotta look closely and guess.
wdfowty said:
They should be in the /system/app folder, but in their full names. It'll be something like "com.android.MP3.apk"...You just gotta look closely and guess.
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Yeah, I found it. Thanks dude.
My question is, how safe is it to remove **** like stock browser (I never use it, only DolphinHD) and stock weather? I know stock weather shows up on the clock so I don't want to like screw it up..
uoY_redruM said:
Yeah, I found it. Thanks dude.
My question is, how safe is it to remove **** like stock browser (I never use it, only DolphinHD) and stock weather? I know stock weather shows up on the clock so I don't want to like screw it up..
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I honestly have no idea...Do a nandroid backup and try it. I don't think it should be a problem, but I've never tried
I use gscript app and I have a script that cleans-up all the apps in one click. Since I flash each and every nightly, it would be a pain in the arse to remove the apps one-by-one every day (sometimes several times a day).
You can also use Titanium Backup. Even the free version allows you to uninstall any app including system ones. A more friendly approach would be to use LauncherPro and just hide the apps you don't like
Karolis said:
I use gscript app and I have a script that cleans-up all the apps in one click. Since I flash each and every nightly, it would be a pain in the arse to remove the apps one-by-one every day (sometimes several times a day).
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What exactly is gscript?
melwan said:
You can also use Titanium Backup. Even the free version allows you to uninstall any app including system ones. A more friendly approach would be to use LauncherPro and just hide the apps you don't like
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Yeah, I'd rather just dump them completely! lol
what you can do is do 2 things, 1 is do adb pull and pull the app you want to remove then do adb shell then do rm /system/app/<your app want to remove>
if it fails you can push it back in and everything be good
or you can do adb shell
and cp -r /system/app /sdcard*
this should copy the whole app directory and its app in there and then do the
rm command if get FC or any issue jus do
adb push again, or do cp /sdcard/app/nameofapp /system/app
and it puts it back in and things should be good good luck
Titanium will remove the app package for you...very easy & clean.
uoY_redruM said:
What exactly is gscript?
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GScript is an app that allows you to execute saved shellscripts.
Here's the script that I use for clean-up:
Code:
mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
rm /system/app/Development.apk
rm /system/app/Email.apk
rm /system/app/RomManager.apk
rm /system/app/SpareParts.apk
rm /system/app/SpeechRecorder.apk
rm /system/app/Stk.apk
rm /system/app/Term.apk
Of course you can add or remove any apps you want from the list. Also, if you try it, don't forget to check the box saying that SU is required.
I guess I should add the code to remount the system back to read-only after the execution, but I'm a bit lazy
galaxys said:
Titanium will remove the app package for you...very easy & clean.
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Hi!
I have the latest CM6 nightly in my N1, and I don't like some apps included like ROM Manager, Torch, Google Voice (I'm outside of USA), Amazon, etc.
It's safe to use Titanium Backup to delete those apps?
Thanks!
Yes it is.
I used SuperOneClick to root my optimus 2x, but I would like temporarily to unroot it. I used the unroot feature in SuperOneClick, but noticed that it does not remove busybox. What is the proper way to completely remove it from the system? Do I need to root the phone again and run certain commands, or is there an application that can do this?
Try remove every file in /system/xbin.. i realize after wiping to factory default, the folder is empty..
Sent from my LG-P990 using XDA App
Are you sure about deleting everything under /xbin and not just the busybox file in there?
tazoul said:
Are you sure about deleting everything under /xbin and not just the busybox file in there?
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Just busybox evidently, but I'm not sure it is possible without root lol. AFAIK you can leave it, as it can't work without Superuser... Or you need to have a clean phone to have it back for a repair?
re-root, rm /system/bin/busybox, un-root.
Rusty! said:
re-root, rm /system/bin/busybox, un-root.
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Thanks for the replies.
Is it under /bin or /xbin?
tazoul said:
Thanks for the replies.
Is it under /bin or /xbin?
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the answer is just above your question...
But effectively some Market App install it under /system/xbin (like Busybox Installer)..
Not hard to find...
OK, I think I have fixed it, so now it should install apps to system correctly. I tested it on my Revo and seemed to work for me. Please let me know if you have any issues on the issue tracker.
** Updated to version 1.2 **
Downloads:
--Windows
v1.2 - https://bitbucket.org/computerfr33k...installer/downloads/Revo Stock App - v1.2.zip
vcredist - http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5555
--Linux
Uninstaller - https://bitbucket.org/computerfr33k...ads/Revo Stock App Uninstaller - Linux.tar.gz
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Changelog
v1.2
Added better logging
Added progress dialog to show progress of the install/uninstall
Now deletes .odex files from the apps selected for deletion
Install button is now disabled if the apk folder does not exist
v1.0
Initial Release
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Source Code is available here
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Legit! Thanks!
Sent from my VS910 4G using XDA
Does this differ from using Titanium Backup to uninstall stock apps you don't want?
dbeauch said:
Does this differ from using Titanium Backup to uninstall stock apps you don't want?
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No. All this program does is it removes the apk from the /system/app dir
this will make things easier lo thanks for this!
thank you!! i was waiting for this!!
i finally can use the debloated stock!!
Sorry for the noob question but what does it mean to "Mount the system rw"? I have my phone plugged in with debugging mode on. Installed the vcredist. The phone is rooted. What else do I need to do before I can start uninstalling apps??
muneshyne21 said:
Sorry for the noob question but what does it mean to "Mount the system rw"? I have my phone plugged in with debugging mode on. Installed the vcredist. The phone is rooted. What else do I need to do before I can start uninstalling apps??
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you have to mount the /system partition read/write. and you can use RomToolBox to mount /system easily
computer.fr33k said:
you have to mount the /system partition read/write. and you can use RomToolBox to mount /system easily
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is that jrummy's rom toolbox?
sirblacknite said:
is that jrummy's rom toolbox?
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Yes, here is a link to it: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wyLDEsImNvbS5qcnVtbXkubGliZXJ0eS50b29sYm94Il0.
i have the jrummy rom toolbox, but don't appear to be smart enough to figure out how to remount /system using it. help?
edit: nvm, found it in the scripter section, theres a script that mounts system read write.