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i am about to buy a smartphone (for the first time since my dumbphone SE W595)
and i want something perfect that'll stay with me like 2 years or so
i checked all of the new phones (Desire + n1 + Galaxy S and millions!) and honestly even with all these teachy stuff and zippy processor .. i didn't like a phone more than the Milestone
Big screen + QWERTY keyboard + pretty good camera for a go-go price !
but .. it was released on the end of 2009 and have a 550MHz (though it can be overclocked anytime) and that locked bootloader (ugh!)
wat i want on a phone is 1-watch movies & videos , 2-loading my almost 5500 set of music in it 3- hardcore 3D gaming , 4-good camera , 5-QWERTY (regular teenager stuff) and Android !
is it really the right phone for me or i should wait for something better (e.g Milestone 2?) (as the international Droid 2) ?
Regards , Mike
I would wait, the milestone has been out for a while now and there should be some new models coming out soon. If I were you I would wait for a new qwerty android phone to be released.
I would also wait. The droid does sound like the perfect phone for you, but the thing is, all the stuff you really look forward to doing kills your battery. I have a rooted droid clocked at 1ghz. Battery life really isn't that great, but overall i sincerely love the phone.
I would wait, too...I have the Milestone, is a really great phone (as you said, big screen+QWERTY is just perfect) but buying it now is pointless, in my opinion. I would suggest to wait for new devices similar to the Milestone to come out and then make a choose.
And the camera isn't that great, really.
Thanks everyone
.. is there any great phones (or leaks) with QWERTYs in the next few weeks which are non-Motorola ? i mean is there any leaks ? (other than that ugly HTC Vision) ?
damn i wish we had a GSM version of HTC Incredible .. it's a perfect phone (only missing a keyboard though)
somebody told me girlfriends are like mobile phones, you only wish for a new and better one, as to what you have.
so there's nothing new about your dilemma.i'd suggest you go for it, because new would come but then it's price will delay or postpone you a prized possession. secondly, nowadays a mobile phone is more worthy if it it's most popular in hacking community, like Xperia X1, in my sane mind i'd never suggest this phone to anyone, but imagine ubuntu and android along with Winmo, the phone is a must have. And my dearest SE P1i.
Go for it, you'd never regret a moment of it am already looking for Xperia X1 and Milestone (second or even third hand).
yeah , your right .. but the thing is .. back in 2008 (when i only knew dumbphones and smartphones prices were a blast) i bought my beloved and now stolen SE w595 .. just a couple a days later , Here Comes SE w902 & samsung i8510 .. a better camera + bigger screen .. stuff
Honestly i felt like my new w595 was turned into bull****! i dont want that to happen next if i buy a milestone
but when i think about it .. it was out for a year .. is there really something new coming ? all the good damn phones comes to the US (droid incredible , samsung epic 4G) while leaving us lay in the dust
everytime i try to convinve myself to buy the milestone by saying (i'm just a teenager .. why would i need a 1GHz CPU and stuff like that ?) but honestly i just can't help it .. for god's sake the galaxy spica is faster than that !
beside that locked bootloader .. when i thought about it for like 2 minutes i say what's the joy having an android when you can't root it/install ROMs ? because back in the days when i had the w595 i used to change themes & flash menus like a maniac !
i've decided to wait for a non-Motorola device , i've taken myself a hour to think about it .. that's my decision .. Thanks everyone !
I literally just picked up the Milestone on Telus two days ago, and don't regret it. It's pretty sweet, and I don't see the Droid X or the Incredible coming (I assume you're in Canada, as you're looking at the Milestone..) any time soon up here.
With the customization and rooting available, it's a pretty sweet phone.
Just me though. Good luck with picking a phone.
The driod 2 is released any day now but I wonder how long we have to wait for a milestone 2
Edit: I bought my Milestone 2 weeks ago. And I love it.
it will outdated in term of operating system, currently we only get android 2.1 which everybody already has 2.2
and next time 3.0 released we can only bite our nail ^^
it will be soon!
Hi guys, actually i've more or less pretty decided to get the milestone already due to it's nice form factor and android, also pretty much i'd like to have a qwerty keyboard for a change.
I'm currently rocking a HD2, and i don't intend to sell it yet. But was interested in android after running froyo 2.2 and sense desire build on it. So i was like pretty much wanting to get an adroid device to play with and see how it goes. No suitable options in the marketplace for nexus 1 and it's way over my budget, i reckon i can get a milestone (brand new) over here in sg for around 550 Singapore Dollars, so i thought i get it! (TODAY, LOL)
So i thought i'd pop by xda for trusted opinions and rooting possibilities, and i'm faced with little support for the milestone as compared to the crazy HD2 forum, LOL. So i'm wondering is it possible to root my milestone? And what do you guys mean by bootloader locked? And why? Pardon me as i'm pretty new to android, had a g1 in the past, but didn't play much with it and sold it, now i'm back! Haha.
I'd appreciate any links to other sites for help and more info and prolly more support than what we're getting here? If you feel uneasy to post, you could pm me. Thanks!!
Any issues i must take note of with buying milestone? Since i read some had wifi and baseband issues, D-pad down button is bad etc. LOL. And the droid's back cover is loose, not sure about the milestone though. Plus is there really a huge difference in droid and milestone when it comes to development/rooting/flashing roms etc.?
The only difference i know of currently is one's CDMA the other's GSM and the droid doesn't support multi-touch natively until the updated the software as well as the droid has got fm radio?
Oh ya, there's no wireless teethering on milestone? Meaning my laptop uses my phone's network?!
Appreciate all advice!!
Sorry for uber long posts!
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Hi guys, actually i've more or less pretty decided to get the milestone already due to it's nice form factor and android, also pretty much i'd like to have a qwerty keyboard for a change.
I'm currently rocking a HD2, and i don't intend to sell it yet. But was interested in android after running froyo 2.2 and sense desire build on it. So i was like pretty much wanting to get an adroid device to play with and see how it goes. No suitable options in the marketplace for nexus 1 and it's way over my budget, i reckon i can get a milestone (brand new) over here in sg for around 550 Singapore Dollars, so i thought i get it! (TODAY, LOL)
So i thought i'd pop by xda for trusted opinions and rooting possibilities, and i'm faced with little support for the milestone as compared to the crazy HD2 forum, LOL. So i'm wondering is it possible to root my milestone? And what do you guys mean by bootloader locked? And why? Pardon me as i'm pretty new to android, had a g1 in the past, but didn't play much with it and sold it, now i'm back! Haha.
I'd appreciate any links to other sites for help and more info and prolly more support than what we're getting here? If you feel uneasy to post, you could pm me. Thanks!!
Any issues i must take note of with buying milestone? Since i read some had wifi and baseband issues, D-pad down button is bad etc. LOL. And the droid's back cover is loose, not sure about the milestone though. Plus is there really a huge difference in droid and milestone when it comes to development/rooting/flashing roms etc.?
The only difference i know of currently is one's CDMA the other's GSM and the droid doesn't support multi-touch natively until the updated the software as well as the droid has got fm radio?
Oh ya, there's no wireless teethering on milestone? Meaning my laptop uses my phone's network?!
Appreciate all advice!!
Sorry for uber long posts!
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Man, it's really lacking in support for milestone over here at xda, or there's nothing to support at all? LOL. For the first time, i'm a little disappointed with xda. Hahahaha, i hope people could point me in the right direction for milestone news and tips etc. Anyways, heading to get it now!!
Quick answers:
- You can root the phone, as in, have access to modify the system at root level.
- A locked bootloader means you can't use any other kernels except those signed by Motorola themselves. We're all hoping for methods like 2ndboot and kexec to help us out here
- You can tether via USB,WiFi, or Bluetooth.
i have a Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 with windows mobile.. I originally wanted the Milestone but since i could get the X1 for half the price of the Milestone i decided to get it. I am now in the process of selling the X1 and getting the Milestone (probably next week)
Lesiroth said:
Quick answers:
- You can root the phone, as in, have access to modify the system at root level.
- A locked bootloader means you can't use any other kernels except those signed by Motorola themselves. We're all hoping for methods like 2ndboot and kexec to help us out here
- You can tether via USB,WiFi, or Bluetooth.
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Thanks. I went ahead and get it anyway. Haha. I'm hoping for more support and some flashing goodness soon! Plus 2.2 froyo!! Some issues or concerns i found so far. I realised that the device gets hot pretty easily and not normal kind of heat, rather at the area below the camera at the back when holding landscape. And in gmail app, you can never empty your trash permanently. This kinda sucks, as the trash always restore.
Quick answers:
- You can root the phone, as in, have access to modify the system at root level.
- A locked bootloader means you can't use any other
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Thanks. I went ahead and get it anyway. Haha. I'm hoping for more support and some flashing goodness soon! Plus 2.2 froyo!! Some issues or concerns i found so far. I realised that the device gets hot pretty easily and not normal kind of heat, rather at the area below the camera at the back when holding landscape. And in gmail app, you can never empty your trash permanently. This kinda sucks, as the trash always restore.
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where did you get it for 550? I was at a starhub shop the other day and it wasn't even close to 550.
If you don't want to wait, there's always the Samsung Epic 4G or Galaxy S Pro, whatever it is called in your region. If you don't mind that there is no camera flash.
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If you don't want to wait, there's always the Samsung Epic 4G or Galaxy S Pro, whatever it is called in your region. If you don't mind that there is no camera flash.
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Are those phones even out yet ? Would you be able to install custom ROMs for them in the future?
The milestone looks better in my opinion.. (physically) but seeing how its got a locked bootloader... im afraid of buying a phone (with so many options at this day) that could be already stuck on its final OS version.
If only the Xperia X10 had a physical keyboard (i dont like the mini pro version) id probably buy it. I want an android phone with a physical keyboard not only for texting but also for emulators and the milestone seems the way to go ... as its about $420 too. (amazon)
I'm in the same boat as some of you. A former Xperia X1 user who got tired of flashing with ROMs that aren't stable and sluggish. I don't want to get an official ATT phone cause I am on the MediaNet unlimited plan and I like to tether to my laptop. I also like having a QWERTY keyboard and been wanting to try Andriod OS. Some questions:
1) What specifics should I look for to ensure I'm getting the Telus version of DROID and unlocked for AT&T to ensure 3G?
2) I saw recent news that there is no official support for Tethering or wifi router mode on DROID, but are there apps (even the Xperia X1 did).
3) Can anyone tell from just what's listed on Overstock and Amazon whether those phones will work on ATT 3G? Many thanks.
I already sold my X1, been using my old Samsung BLackjack 2....need new phone...SOON!
OK, heres the scoop.. 3 days ago I started using the HTC HD2 (finally putting down my old 2G iPhone) because my dad didnt like the Windows OS, So he goes out and buys a Galaxy S i9000. Well in the meantime I discover you can put Android GB 2.3.2 on the HTC and do so. My old man see's this and now wishes he had the HTC back, also asking if I would like to trade for the Galaxy S because he always liked the phone due to the large screen (he's a big guy). My question is should I trade since the larger screen doesnt really mean anything to me?? What are some of the pros/cons between the 2 devices?? I like games, music, themes, widgets, apps etc and I am just learning the HTC and have NO CLUE about the Galaxy S. Hopefully I can get some answers from users who have used and tested both devices.. Thanks in advance!!
Well in the meantime I discover you can put Android GB 2.3.2 on the HTC and do so. My old man see's this and now wishes he had the HTC back
Gingerbread m2.3 for SGS due soon .
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this is just basically just to see if you can remember how you got into the hacking world, and it'd be nice to know the device that started you off too! =)
well i got into this with my first smartphone, the tmobile shadow. i was perfectally fine with they way it was untill my sister told me about a website (allshadow.com and xda ) where i could do alot with it! so i checked it out, and with due time i enjoyed it, and eventually grew out of it and moved on with the touch pro 2 and actually started using XDA from then out
Sony PSP custom firmware scene, then got HTC Kaiser, then Touch Pro 2, now HD2. Before the psp stuff, I was modding my XP comp and my guitar, amps, and effect pedals.
Gotten kinda bored with it all lately tho, used to be that if it had current passing thru it, I found a way to make it run linux. I haven't gotten on a pc in 2 months and dont even miss it. My phone is all the more internet I need or have time for anymore, and it's as modded/hacked as its gonna get.
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I got into hacking phones when I got my moto V710 (on verizon) and I realized they had disabled side loading .mp3 ringtones. Every knows the class action lawsuit they had because they advertised that as a feature. I started seem editing then flashing different firmwares and it all snowballed into full on modding whatever I can get my hands on.
I started with a ipod touch 2g and jailbroke it. Then got the 3g then 4g... Then I got this... knew about root because I dual boot linux windows, I thought if this was linux it was rootable, started there
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I started with a ipod touch 2g and jailbroke it. Then got the 3g then 4g... Then I got this... knew about root because I dual boot linux windows, I thought if this was linux it was rootable, started there
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+1 Dis. I got in basically the same way. I jailbroke the 2G, got Android Froyo running on it (iDroid project) and JB'd the 3GS.
Now I have an Atrix Rooted and with gingerblur.
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well i didnt start till i got my captivate when it came out found XDA and boom from there have been an addict
Oh man, I forgot about seem editing, I was doing that back on the Moto Razr lol. Getting the party lights goin and making themes was big stuff back then. Jeez that seems so long ago now lol
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I actually started with my Nintendo DS, then I moved to my Touch Pro 2 with dual booting and loading multiple roms
Now I have my Nexus S baby that I take care of better than my vital organs haha Those can be replaced...
-I wrangled together some consonants and vowels and created this post-
If it counts it was an aspire one and modding my linux install to suit my needs, otherwise my mini pro
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I started by making themes for my Nokia 5300, then I got a used G1 that I didn't care if I bricked... (but now I'm my entire families phone/IT consultant....)
Sent from either my Nexus S, N1 or telepathically using two tin cans and some string.
Now I have my Nexus S baby that I take care of better than my vital organs haha Those can be replaced...
-I wrangled together some consonants and vowels and created this post-[/QUOTE]
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Ha ha me too!
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I got bored... So I googled things to do with a HTC Hero.... Found theunlockr then got pointed to xda.... Found out someone had stolen my username but I tried the username with my normal password and it worked
My first smartphone was the vogue and i enjoyed it how it was and knew about xda very little and found a way to stream radio and xm radio on here and havent visited it since 2008.
i then got a tp2 and actually was fine with it until i heard about wm 6.5 was out on custom clean roms so i finally got up the courage and time to read on how to unlock and flash roms.
i was addictted to mighty roms over at ppcgeeks and loved the taskbar mods and all the fun stuff such as getting rid of crapware that sprint put on it and made it better and had 6.5.5 a few months later and enjoyed it til i heard the first fast android phone with keyboard came to sprint and had all the hardware specs on it : The Epic 4g, unlock htc phones it didnt leave any feutures out of it and im loving it 7 months later.
i read up on rooting and rooted and started flashing roms and mods and been even more happy, this phone can do it all.
I also have a jailbroken ipod touch,
So it all started with my tp2 getting irritating waiting for sprint to deliver an update to 6.5 and the ugly colors on the interface of sense
It started with my old and grey (it's actually black) HTC Touch back in 2006 and a part of me just can't be satisfied with a stock product. No can do babydoll, no can dosville.
well i had a piece of crap sidekick lx and my cousin had a g1 rooted and i saw the true possibility of a phone so i bought a white g1 and he helped me hack it and get started now im rocking a mytouch 4g with CM7
haha, some great stories so far!
its funny how seeing little things go a long way to opening doors for you to do more!
also cause of my TP2 i ended up getting 3 friends get a TP2 cause they were blown by the awesomeness that it is! lol
Started with my linux based moto ROKR E8. What a pos that phone was, but i loved it. I made it do anything my friends iphone could do, basicly turning it into a monster that used wayyy to much power. Then i got a motorola defy. Flashed some of Higgsy and HandlerExploits roms. That wasnt enough for me though. I tried updating to 2.2 and kept getting stat. 7 error. Then i ended up here. Htc droid incredible, stock rooted. Not really feelin anything in the dev section over there. Maybe ruby if we dont get a 2.3 update soon. But ya, im still learning.
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Well, I first started off by hacking with psp custom firmware then I moved onto game hacking such as COD/Battlefield. As soon as I got my X8 I went to the internet to find out how to get Android 2.2 on it, google lead me here now I have a Xperia Play and HTC Desire S but my only interest is to hack my X8.
I started hacking when I was like 6 and I hacked AOL for free internet then I moved on to learning some C++ at 11 and then I started hacking my Motorola Q. Started Android with the Nexus One after seeing how open Android was (ex-iPhone user)
I started patching with Siemens Mobile in year 2005, next Sony Ericsson K750i, Nokia and now SGS.
I am really starting to feel left out of the cool kids club(GSM Tab Owners). Owning the sprint galaxy tab is like buying a mustang V6. I mean sure you have a mustang, but any ordinary ricer with a decent tune could blow you out of the water. Sure you could strap on a short air ram(rooting), or even sport tune(rooted apps), but your still no V8(Roms). Yeah I like cars a little, but I am really sad about my Galaxy tab from sprint. I had very high hopes, and they were all crushed......So Devs if you find it in your hearts........bring us some Sprint tab LOVE.
Well im running hc alpha 2.5 on my Sprint tab i think thats not to bad ,of course all thanks to spacemoose!
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Your problem is that GSM technology is world wide, so you have people from all over the world working on roms.
CDMA is only in the US, so you have a much more limited set of potential developers.
Do you have a link to the rom? and does the market work?
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Do you have a link to the rom? and does the market work?
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It is in the "Android Development" section of the Samsung Galaxy Tab forums. And yes, the market works. While the GSM crowd is still getting Gingerbread ROMs/ports, we CDMA users have HC now. There are some glitches as the developer is still in the early stages, but overall, it runs, it's a great move in the right direction, and it's on CDMA first. (The dev was working on CDMA and GSM simultaneously, but the development on CDMA for whatever reason wasn't as difficult. I don't know if the GSM HC works as of now, but I know the dev. was close....)
And if you hate it that much, put it on ebay, sell it, and get a GSM.
Thanks for the info,
I don't hate the device as much as sprint.....and the way they locked up all the goodness behind profit grubbing.
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Thanks for the info,
I don't hate the device as much as sprint.....and the way they locked up all the goodness behind profit grubbing.
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You're welcome, although I don't understand the part about all the goodness being locked up. You just have to root your tab, just like all other Android devices. Once rooted, the device, and experience, are what you make it
I have someone that wants to trade me their sprint gtab 3g (I use sprint) for my wifi 16g ipad. I have a nook color rooted running cm7 overclocked at 1300 and an evo 4g running cm7. Do you guys think that's a fair trade? I'm not a big apple fan but my wife gave me the ipad for my birthday and use it for Netflix only. I need to pull the trigger quick before this Guy changes his mind. I just want to make sure I'm not making a dopey trade.... thanks guys!
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I have a question. I rooted my tab when I first got it, how did you install alpha 2.5, I have sprint and when I try it with rom mananger ,sprint is not in the recovery just att, verizon and tmobile. I tried to flash the verizon recovery, and it was a no go. It reboots into the samaung recovery. If you have a sprint tab how did you do it?
I have nothing but mad love for my Sprint Tab. Bear in mind I'm not doing nearly as much with it as you're wanting to do though. I don't have it activated with Sprint and I'm not flashing ROMs or anything on it.
If you want to make some changes to your Sprint tab, check out the informational thread I created.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14917609#post14917609
I found a new love for my tab, I flashed it to 2.5 HC and it is neat again. It's buggy, but fun to toy with again........Yay Tab.
I've played with the HC 2.5 port, and it's just too slow for me. Stock, rooted with CWM (converted to ext4) seems to be the best thing out there for my uses thus far. Hoping we'll get a official gingerbread soon, or at least a functional CM7 port.. otherwise i love my tab! Sure there's not tons of roms to play with like the GSM tabs, but I'm happy with what i paid for it and my uses..
First my apologies for posting in DEV but my question was ignored in the Q&A section and I really need to know the answer. I plan to pickup a 8.9 4G LTE today after work at the AT&T store and need to know if this current crop of custom roms is usable on this particular 8.9 model tablet? I was looking at it at the store and it said it was i99x or something and I don't see any of those numbers mentioned here in the forum for this device. Thanks in advance for your patience with the post here and for any info provided. Very cool device and much different than my Samsung InFuse phone running GB.
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First my apologies for posting in DEV but my question was ignored in the Q&A section and I really need to know the answer. I plan to pickup a 8.9 4G LTE today after work at the AT&T store and need to know if this current crop of custom roms is usable on this particular 8.9 model tablet? I was looking at it at the store and it said it was i99x or something and I don't see any of those numbers mentioned here in the forum for this device. Thanks in advance for your patience with the post here and for any info provided. Very cool device and much different than my Samsung InFuse phone running GB.
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All I’ve seen is WiFi roms, no roms for 3G/LTE roms for GSM. It’s a SGH-I957 model. I’m still playing with the idea of getting one, since you get the Galaxy Skyrocket free too with a purchase. No root either yet for this thing …
I picked up a SR on launch day. 2 days ago I piked up this tab. They credited me the price of the SR towards the tab! sweet deal!.
That is why I decided to get the 8.9 Tab. I wanted a Skyrocket but I just got an Infuse a couple months back so I couldn't upgrade for the Skyrocket. So I figured I would get the Tab and Skyrocket and replace my Infuse with the SR. I have a client who is footing the bill and we are going to use one of the inactive corporate phones to do the swap with my phone or else it couldn't be done. I guess I will just get it anyway and wait till some development comes down the pike. It is a sweet form factor and I think I will enjoy it.
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I would really love to be able to get root on my new 8.9 4g LTE Tablet. Is there any devs out there willing to take a look at it for me or am I left out in the cold?
This thing is ridiculously slow and laggy i sure hope someone develops for it or i am going to ditch it quick. My Skyrocket is so much more speedy than this tablet. I like it but it needs help bad.
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I would really love to be able to get root on my new 8.9 4g LTE Tablet. Is there any devs out there willing to take a look at it for me or am I left out in the cold?
This thing is ridiculously slow and laggy i sure hope someone develops for it or i am going to ditch it quick. My Skyrocket is so much more speedy than this tablet. I like it but it needs help bad.
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Not sure what lag you are talking about
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I have experienced serious lagging scrolling screens changing apps etc. I also have had it completely lock up on me several times and had to hold the power button until it rebooted this thing is really a disappointment so far. Hopefully there will be some updates coming down the road soon.
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I have experienced serious lagging scrolling screens changing apps etc. I also have had it completely lock up on me several times and had to hold the power button until it rebooted this thing is really a disappointment so far. Hopefully there will be some updates coming down the road soon.
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I'm having the same issues. I just picked this up yesterday with the skyrocket deal. Coming from using a Motorola Xoom which has very little bloatware, I'm terribly disappointed with this tablet. I love the form factor, but it's slow as molasses. Hopefully someone with knowledge will take the time to find a solution and share it with those of us who have no idea what to do
Does it have lag/stuttering when scrolling homescreens in portrait?
It pretty much lags doing anything from opening apps to Widgets or sliding through the screens. I've also has it completely freeze several times and I've only had it over the weekend. The LTE version from AT&T has tons of bloatware.