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Dev Request: HDMI Mirroring?

Since im not a dev, i dont have the chops to figure this out.... but I would definately donate to a dev that can figure this out.
Is hdmi mirroring possible?

in build.prop theres this:
ro.hdmi.mirror.enable=false
ro.hdmi.default.app=
hw.overlay.path.config=
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changing the first line to true WORKS only at boot, it correctly mirrors what you see on your phone. but once the phone is done booting, it kicks the TV to a black screen and the phone asks you if you want to open up the entertainment app or do nothing.
So mirroring is there, its just blocked by something on boot.

andy2na said:
changing the first line to true WORKS only at boot, it correctly mirrors what you see on your phone. but once the phone is done booting, it kicks the TV to a black screen and the phone asks you if you want to open up the entertainment app or do nothing.
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Have you tried disabling webtop? It sounds like the app takes over control of the HDMI port once started.

krkeegan said:
Have you tried disabling webtop? It sounds like the app takes over control of the HDMI port once started.
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how do you do that?

omg yes how do you do that. please, thank you thank you thank you. they're such assholes for blocking this very basic task and wanting you to buy the stupid dock

eatkabab said:
omg yes how do you do that. please, thank you thank you thank you. they're such assholes for blocking this very basic task and wanting you to buy the stupid dock
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Sorry, I just ordered my phone, so I don't have one to tinker with yet. But maybe you can use titanium backup to freeze the app. If it doesn't show up as an app, maybe you can use autostarts to try and stop it. Finally, the last idea I have is to poke around in the init scripts to find the offending app. All of this is just speculation, but since you can see mirroring at bootup I think it is pretty clear that the webtop app is causing the issue.

I can confirm this. It boots to the homescreens. I got to unlock and touch a widget. Then it disappeared, the box came up asking if I wanted to connect to the entertainment center.
I back through my apps with titanium backup and froze anything regarding hdmi. The entertainment box went away, but it still takes away hdmi mirroring.
I didn't have any results with autostarts either, but I don't really know what to look for.
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Tried to freeze up some services with Titanium backup - no luck so far.
There is something happening during the boot process which disables the mirroring.

Tried this also. Same results.
I went into Titanium Backup and deleted the Entertainment Center application as well as a couple of other ones I thought might be the reason. But, it still switched off to a black screen after a few seconds.

Any updates on this?

I still don't have a phone yet, but I had another realization.
When you plug in the HDMI cord, the phone pops up with options regarding what to display. i.e. the webtop or the entertainment center. Ergo, something lower in the OS than the webtop is blocking the HDMI port.
However, my thought is, rather than block this, we need to figure out how to make another entry in this list. So the options read, webtop, entertainment, and mirroring.
Unfortunately this may require waiting for Moto to release the code. It will also require someone with coding skill. I for one have never worked with Android and have very poor experience with even Java.

This subject is being killed all over the forums in different threads. The hdmi is being toggled for different apps like webtop or media. The config is the other part that supports the hdmi app service options. We have dumped the apk into smalli and have confirmed this.
There is devs working on webtop without dock and it maybe beneficial to combine these efforts to support display mirroring... just a thought
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Any updates on this?

ANDY12001 said:
Any updates on this?
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There is no need for dedicated mirroring now that you can launch the webtop without the dock.
You can run mobile view full screen once you launch webtop.... and alas, you have HDMI mirroring.
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leadguy68 said:
There is no need for dedicated mirroring now that you can launch the webtop without the dock.
You can run mobile view full screen once you launch webtop.... and alas, you have HDMI mirroring.
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Can i just run mirroring?

leadguy68 said:
There is no need for dedicated mirroring now that you can launch the webtop without the dock.
You can run mobile view full screen once you launch webtop.... and alas, you have HDMI mirroring.
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Well thats not fully correct, if you launch a app that has on screen buttons like games or emulators..you cant use or play them using the phone as these dont show up on phone.
so we could still do with mirroring for atrix

leadguy68 said:
There is no need for dedicated mirroring now that you can launch the webtop without the dock.
You can run mobile view full screen once you launch webtop.... and alas, you have HDMI mirroring.
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ANDY12001 said:
Can i just run mirroring?
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As of now the best solution is to do what leadguy68 suggested. I don't think any dev is working on it. It is just not worth it since what you want to accomplish can be done with just one additional mouse click after enabling webtop.
If I am wrong and any devs are still working on this, please ignore this thread, otherwise it is prudent to close this thread. Or maybe OP can state this in the first post so that people stop asking about HDMI mirroring.

Immix said:
As of now the best solution is to do what leadguy68 suggested. I don't think any dev is working on it. It is just not worth it since what you want to accomplish can be done with just one additional mouse click after enabling webtop.
If I am wrong and any devs are still working on this, please ignore this thread, otherwise it is prudent to close this thread. Or maybe OP can state this in the first post so that people stop asking about HDMI mirroring.
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I think it's dumb to end a thread because YOU aren't interested in something. I think it'd be a damn good idea to get mirroring running. The webtop mirror is laggy, and I want to play a real game of angry birds on a 100" screen, lol. Keep the work up, if anyone is working on it. I'll keep trying on my end to get it working.

link12245 said:
I think it's dumb to end a thread because YOU aren't interested in something. I think it'd be a damn good idea to get mirroring running. The webtop mirror is laggy, and I want to play a real game of angry birds on a 100" screen, lol. Keep the work up, if anyone is working on it. I'll keep trying on my end to get it working.
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exactly. mirroring is still highly sought after. Like another said earlier, for people who want to run emulators, you're sol with the webtop, theres no onscreen buttons AND you cant use your wii-mote while in webtop mode.

Agreed. Still very much needed for games. Web top game emulation is laggy.
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[Q] Jellybean "computer" is very disapointing

I had the 'great idea' to hook a monitor, keyboard and mouse to my Atrix HD and use it as a PC (to save $70 month on internet) Problem is, it's HORRIBLE. It goes into some kind of 'Dock' mode, and you can only have 4 icons. Flash player doesn't work in Chrome or Browser, so you have to launch youtube videos in a new window. Plus, all these ****ing "mobile" websites that everyone loves suck, and I can't figure out how to change Chromes user-agent header.
I bought this cable: shop dot teamblackhat dot info Cables_c4.htm
Think I'm going to try and root it and get the wifi hotspot to work.
Does anyone know if there is a way to keep the 'Dock' mode from showing up? It's worse than just the normal phone (which wouldn't be bad)

Forget chrome bro, its oversimplified garbage. With stock browser you only have to set desktop mode once every time you open it, with chome its everytime you open a website + everytime you open the browser.
Also, chrome doesnt have plugin support, you need this flash, and it will work in default browser: Adobe_Flash_Player_11.1.115.17.apk
When the dock notification comes, you should chose charge only so it doesnt switch to clock mode. BTW JB is **** with hdmi, google messed it up.

souljaboy said:
When the dock notification comes, you should chose charge only so it doesnt switch to clock mode. BTW JB is **** with hdmi, google messed it up.
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well mine never shown the dock notification even after rebooting. any way to make it appear ?

smogtdi said:
well mine never shown the dock notification even after rebooting. any way to make it appear ?
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It appears when you connect it, but dont open up the lid.

souljaboy said:
It appears when you connect it, but dont open up the lid.
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thanks but none of the settings solved the screwed up display on a lapdock.
But I can't see how it's still ok mirroring to the 2 TVs we have at home.

smogtdi said:
thanks but none of the settings solved the screwed up display on a lapdock.
But I can't see how it's still ok mirroring to the 2 TVs we have at home.
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Seems like they only support 720p and 1080p resolution now...

atrix hd does not support webtop like other motos, so it will only look like a big android screen just like the phone. no tablet mode or anything like that.

el_venga said:
atrix hd does not support webtop like other motos, so it will only look like a big android screen just like the phone. no tablet mode or anything like that.
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I didn't see any reference to webtop. we all asked for true 720p display on the lapdocks.

souljaboy said:
Seems like they only support 720p and 1080p resolution now...
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if it support 720p, we would get a very small black band around the display (as if you plug any other hdmi capable device in the lapdock (like a blue-ray player))
there's something wrong like if they targeted the lapdock on purpose.

My original email was wrote on dec.14.
***** ******* via Email 12/30/2012 10:50 AM
****,
So sorry for the extended response time. We've been working hard on improving our products and services to meet the needs of power users like yourself. You posed an excellent question, referencing your previous email, and currently my engineer team is looking into the HDMI issues you referred to. We are working diligently to locate and resolve any issues we find. I want to thank you for your inquiry and let you know that it is through feedback such as yours we are able to provide a better Motorola experience. We will be glad to provide more info when it's available. Again, Thank you for choosing Motorola.
Best Regards,
*****
Motorola Tech Team
I've already sent another back with some of my recent findings, the guys at s3 forum were of great help(they're having the same letterbox).

souljaboy said:
My original email was wrote on dec.14.
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Is there a place where I can send my own comments (like the browser bookmarks mess) ?

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/account/overview
click on it, login, or register if you need to.
when youre logged in, click on the link again, should take you to the "mystuff" page
add a phone, and post question, you can also op-in to be contacted in some developer programs

How do you use Tasker?

I bought the Tasker app on a suggestion from a blog with no real knowledge of what to use it for. Since then I have read a number of things people use it for including one that I hadn't even thought about (connecting GPS to the app so that when you start the app, GPS gets turned on and when you close it GPS turns off...brilliant). Which lead me to wonder what else can I do with this app that I haven't thought of.
Anyone got anything specific? Doesn't have to over board fancy or anything, just normal every day tasks would be great to figure out.

I have mine set to play music at a certain volume when i plug in my headphones,that way it automactically plays and i dont go deaf lol
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With my old evo 3d I had it set to turn on bluetooth, turn on 4g, launch car home ultra and pop up a menu for me to chose google music, pandora or slacker when I put it in my car dock, It would also monitor gps so when I got close to my house it would launch the craftsman garage door app so I could open my garage door. Also had it turn down notfication sounds, set screen timeout for 10 seconds, launch home dock, turn off notification and capacitive button lights when put into my home dock. I'm totally missing all this now with no docks for yet! Oh yeah, and one to create a nandroid using onandroid nightly at 2:30am every night and delete yesterdays backup since I flash a lot and don't want to wait for a backup every time.
Also, see here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110775

DomSim said:
With my old evo 3d I had it set to turn on bluetooth, turn on 4g, launch car home ultra and pop up a menu for me to chose google music, pandora or slacker when I put it in my car dock, It would also monitor gps so when I got close to my house it would launch the craftsman garage door app so I could open my garage door. Also had it turn down notfication sounds, set screen timeout for 10 seconds, launch home dock, turn off notification and capacitive button lights when put into my home dock. I'm totally missing all this now with no docks for yet! Oh yeah, and one to create a nandroid using onandroid nightly at 2:30am every night and delete yesterdays backup since I flash a lot and don't want to wait for a backup every time.
Also, see here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110775
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Mind sharing your nandroid script?

CNexus said:
Mind sharing your nandroid script?
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It's pretty simply, it makes a TWRP backup named "nightly", if you don't use TWRP remove the "-w -md" from the shell command after importing

DomSim said:
It's pretty simply, it makes a TWRP backup named "nightly", if you don't use TWRP remove the "-w -md" from the shell command after importing
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Yeah I figured, just havent gotten into using Tasker much
But i must say, this is an awesome little script because of its simplicity and usefulness :thumbup:
Many thanks, btw

Apps Wishlist

What would you like for the gear (Keep in mind its a Smart Watch not a Smart Phone)
My first pic is
Stolen Watch, if someone nicks it you can get it back

Whatsapp! Just want to share pics to contacts
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I want to get offline GPS navigation. Sygic unfortunately does not work..

hurdlejade said:
I want to get offline GPS navigation. Sygic unfortunately does not work..
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using the phone for the gps sensor?

1)Shake to wake, like the pebble. The current wake up makes my watch turn on way too often.
2)Expanded notifications without first tapping on the notification like how it is currently. I don't understand why I need to tap on it first before I can read the whole message. Just make them expanded/full notifications always, or at least make it an option.
3)There is too much of a delay for the media controller app. There's about a 1 second delay between pressing a button in the media controller app and having my phone actually change the song. The pebble does the song switch almost instantly. If this is due to the lower bandwidth of Bluetooth Low Energy, make it an option to turn off BLE and use only BT Classic. I would gladly give up battery life for faster notifications/control over my phone. This brings me to #4
4) Faster notifications. Sometimes I have a 1 second wait before a notification shows up on my watch after having already shown up on my phone. Again, if this is due to the limited bandwidth of BLE, make it an option to only work on BT classic.
Edit: Oh I misread the topic. I thought this was about changes to the Gear. I'll just leave this here anyways.

Me too, i would like a GPS guidance for walking.
An extention of Sygic will be really great.

I can honestly say I couldn't ask for much more from my watch.

I would like a keyboard to reply to msgs (from anything that shows up in notification center - email, text, hangouts, etc) - without having to bake in a whole new rom etc

NZ_Nitro said:
using the phone for the gps sensor?
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yup.

Something like Rain Alarm pro does on the sony smart watch. Yes you can get the alert when the app sees rain but the ability to see weather radar on the watch would be awesome!

New 5th Gen Fire Sound Question

I'm building a couple Kindle Fire's into the walls in my kids rooms to serve as a media player, task manager, alarm clock, etc. I was using a cheap android tablet from Amazon, but one of them had a software problem and when I returned it I saw these new Kindles for $50 so just bought them, thinking it would be perfect.
They are not--but that is another story.
I have got the ABD drivers installed and am using the Google Play store, which solved about 60 percent of my frustration. Still waiting on Widget support, which I understand may come in time when the device is further opened up.
But right now I'm just looking for what seems like a simple issue, but I just can't find the answer.
I have the device running to a pair of speakers through the headphone jack--because my kids are heavy sleepers they need the amplified power from outboard speakers to wake them up.
But, the alarm only seems to come from the onboard speaker, which isn't very loud from across the room. I see the Kindle has a seperate volume control for media and system sounds, then I found further that if you go into Alarm:settings there is yet another volume setting for just the alarm, but no way to output it into the headphone jack.
I briefly flirted with using the alarm on Pandora to wake them with music, but that just doesn't seem reliable--when I tested it the alarm wouldn't function if the lock screen was triggered.
Any solutions anyone is aware of?

jwbohrer said:
I'm building a couple Kindle Fire's into the walls in my kids rooms to serve as a media player, task manager, alarm clock, etc. I was using a cheap android tablet from Amazon, but one of them had a software problem and when I returned it I saw these new Kindles for $50 so just bought them, thinking it would be perfect.
They are not--but that is another story.
I have got the ABD drivers installed and am using the Google Play store, which solved about 60 percent of my frustration. Still waiting on Widget support, which I understand may come in time when the device is further opened up.
But right now I'm just looking for what seems like a simple issue, but I just can't find the answer.
I have the device running to a pair of speakers through the headphone jack--because my kids are heavy sleepers they need the amplified power from outboard speakers to wake them up.
But, the alarm only seems to come from the onboard speaker, which isn't very loud from across the room. I see the Kindle has a seperate volume control for media and system sounds, then I found further that if you go into Alarm:settings there is yet another volume setting for just the alarm, but no way to output it into the headphone jack.
I briefly flirted with using the alarm on Pandora to wake them with music, but that just doesn't seem reliable--when I tested it the alarm wouldn't function if the lock screen was triggered.
Any solutions anyone is aware of?
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I suspect that you will be unable to get it to do what you want, because of the Fire's Custom UI.
If a root method is found, then several options could work.

sd_shadow said:
I suspect that you will be unable to get it to do what you want, because of the Fire's Custom UI.
If a root method is found, then several options could work.
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That's pretty much what I figured, but I thought I would ask. I will wait for root...

Not sure if this helps, but I setup desk clock plus app for my children. That coupled with Google app (voice enabled), they are able use their devices with ease.
Curious though on the room setup you are doing. Love to see pics to get ideas.
Thx!
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I will have to look into that app.
It also looks like a root exploit has been found, so I'll start a new thread seeing if I can get what I need that way.
I would like to post a picture but I can't seem to upload a picture or link to another site where the picture is.
jco23 said:
Not sure if this helps, but I setup desk clock plus app for my children. That coupled with Google app (voice enabled), they are able use their devices with ease.
Curious though on the room setup you are doing. Love to see pics to get ideas.
Thx!
Sent from my Moto X using XDA Free mobile app
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You have too few post to include an active link but you can break the link by adding a space or two.