Currently I have a Samsung GSII but I want to get back to WP7, I was going to wait for the WP7 version of the GSII but I did like my HD7.
I was thinking about trying to pick up an HD7S on ebay and use it in the UK (Vodafone UK) however I was wondering if you guys could run me through a few pit falls.
Will it actually work on the Vodafone network?
Can I unlock the phone if needs be?
Is it possible for me just to put a total generic ROM on the phone so there is no AT&T branding, will I run into problems?
I know these may sounds like daft questions but I have never purchased a phone from the states and I'm not sure about the network bands, etc.
Many thanks for the help guys, hope to be back in the fold soon
Since you are coming from the Samsung GSII you might want to wait and pick up the Samsung Focus S that coming soon. The Focus S is a follow-up to the original Samsung Focus, featuring a large 4.3-inch Super AMOLED Plus panel , 1.4GHz processor and is just one-third of an inch thick. You get a 1.3MP front-facing camera and 8MP rear-facing.
Basicly a SGSII with WP7.5.
I myself was hoping to get this or the HTC Titan (It has a 4.7 inch S-LCD screen making it the largest available on any Windows Phone. The HTC Titan also has a 1.5GHz processor with 512MB RAM, 16GB internal memory, and 8MP rear and 1.3MP FFC.) but they are both going to AT&T and I'm on T-Mobile.
I was thinking about waiting for that but I'm not sure if it will be released in the UK (I'm sure it will) plus I'm not sure about pricing, I know I could sell my SGII now, get an HD7 (S or non S model) and have a bit of cash in my pocket).
I might just sell the SGII now and use an old... HTC Desire (or SE K850) for the next few months...
Dont get the S... you will be stuck on EDGE as AT&T use a different frequency (1900mhz?) to UK carriers for 3G/HSPA (2100mhz).
EDGE is painful.
Well I sold my SG2 and have been using an old htc desire and I'm liking the smaller screen so i have gone for an omnia 7 (16gb), I like the screen size being between the desire and hd7. With the cash left over I may put it towards a Sony tablet s
I would suggest you wait for the new phones coming out instead of going for the already released WP7 devices, reason being atleast they will be a bit future proof.
I had an HD7 and then went for a SGS2, but because HD7 has no front facing camera I will miss out on the kinet features on mango, so I am waiting for either Nokia WP7 ( as I still feel nokia has the best hardware) or get one of the New HTC devices with WP7.
I have already the RTM MANGO and boy it rocks, currently can't make up my mind between the HD7 and SGS2
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Hey guys quick quetion here, i got an offer to sell my milestone for 400$ or Trade it for a blackberry 9700 + blackberry 9000, should i sell it? and with the 400$ i can buy a Galaxy S or some other device? whats your input?
I would sell the Milestone and get the Milestone 2. Try using the Galaxy S for awhile (not just a store demo), and if you can stand its pentile matrix arrangement, then go for it. It's very fast and has an extremely accurate and responsive touchscreen. However, its display isn't for everyone. The real test is how your eyes handle reading small/medium sized text on it at length.
With the Milestone 2, you wouldn't have any of these issues, though I can't imagine that you could get one for anywhere near $400 when it is released.
One other phone to consider is the Desire (the S-LCD version).
whats the S-LCD?? i think ill try the bell Vibrant looks cool with the front facing camera
Older Desires used AMOLED, a terrible version.
Since you're in Canada, then the Telus version uses Sony's S-LCD, a display comparable to the iP4 (lower res, of course) and the Milestone.
I suggest that you buy the Bell Vibrant from Best Buy or Futureshop, so that you have the option to return it if you find small text unbearable, particularly since you're coming from a great LCD with very high DPI and sharp text.
Sell it and wait for the Motorola Milestone Pro
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Sell it and wait for the Motorola Milestone Pro
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lol got the The Galaxy S, almost bricked it and by luck restored it back to normal,very happy with it though, no lag nicer screen, will miss they keyboard though : D but swype is reallyyy nice
Bit late but I wouldn't have bought a SGS. Samsung have shown such disregard for the users with such appalling support and buggy software. I'll never buy a Samsung product again.
What I want to ask about here is the possibility of a 'Milestone Pro'. Motorola have refused to confirm its existence and given that we didn't see a GSM version of the Droid X I'm wondering if we'll definitely see a GSM Droid Pro.
(I know it's CDMA/GSM but with Verizon controlling things it'll be relatively hard to get one only for unlocked GSM use and I _think_ that using GSM the phone will always think it is roaming)
Hello all.
I want to buy a mobile phone but i don't know what should i buy.
I don't care if my phone is big.(there isn't too big for screen)
but.
in my country (israel), thr prices are the issue.
those are the prices for the phones: (from a mobile store):
HTC Desire HD: 1086$
Samsung Galaxy s(i9000): 768$
Htc Desire:582$
i really want the best phone for the best price.
is there really a reason to add 300$ for the Desire HD?
or should i go for the Galaxy S?
BTW: A8 or Snapdragon?
Thanks All!
The one reason I wouldn't buy the Desire HD is the lack of internal storage space. I mean, 1.5GB vs 16GB? Yes, you can add on a microSD card and move your apps to storage, but the fact that many apps themselves don't let you do it is going to make things a tad more complicated than it has to be. Plus, you'll have to dish out some extra money for a microSD card, unless HTC provides you with one.
That said, the reason I would get the Desire HD is mainly because of the HTC Sense software, oh and the 8MP camera. While the 5MP camera on the Galaxy S is great, the lack of an LED flash leaves a lot to be desired. And TouchWiz isn't really my favourite UI, which is why I've flashed my SGS with a custom ROM and installed LauncherPro.
In terms of performance, I'd say they're about on par with each other. Bigger RAM gives the DHD a bit of an edge over the SGS, but the Hummingbird processor is just significantly better at rendering graphics.
I'm happy with my SGS, and personally, 4.0-inch is the limit for me. Anything above that should really go in the tablet category. Plus, after using the S-AMOLED screen on the SGS, regular LCD screens feel a bit.. insufficient, if you know what I mean.
This is just my opinion. Don't take my word for it. I still think the Desire HD is an awesome phone, just not for me. Since there's also the price factor to think about, and in your case there is a USD300 price difference. I'd seriously think about what I'd pay an extra USD300 for.
I'll wait for a nexus S.
If you are able to get Google Nexus S,
there is absolutely no reason to bother with Samsung Galaxy S.
If I could get Nexus S, I wouldn't even bother with any other phone including Desire HD.
except the nexus s is only coming out with tmobile 3g frequencies..
wait for galaxy s 2 or x12 (lol)
well...
I don't really see alot of changes in the Nexus...
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3620&idPhone2=3115
yeah it's has Led and a few other tiny things..
but it's seems that the hardware is the same...
and i don't think that Desire HD worth adding 300$...
I think i will go with the Galaxy S,
Maybe i will exchange it after the Nexus come out
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BTW! The Galaxt S2 looks Great!!!
Think you should go with the Galaxy S if you get a sweet deal. Otherwise, might as well get the Nexus S since it's slightly updated with Gingerbread.
In reality, it boils downs to, which one do you like better. The straight one or the concave one. Haha.
Not worth getting a galaxy s, developing is slow kinda, but since nexus s is a Google phone with stock aosp gingerbread, u shud get more devs working on it. And get cm first, miui , and all the other mods available.
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Not worth getting a galaxy s, developing is slow kinda, but since nexus s is a Google phone with stock aosp gingerbread, u shud get more devs working on it. And get cm first, miui , and all the other mods available.
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That what i thought about..
The Galaxy S and the Nexus S are the same phone.
so i guess that every mod that will be on Nexus will be on the Galaxy..
that why i'm taking the Galaxy...
(and i'm an Apple dev... :S)
I would wait
I would wait and get Nexus S instead of Galaxy S.
The reasons:
1. Price (~530$ in US if I'm not mistaken). If you have a friend visiting US (preferably one of the tax-free states), ship it directly to the hotel and ask him to bring it.
2. You get "stock" android with fastest adoption of new releases. Samsung's froyo adoption is about half a year late after Nexus and is far below in terms of tuning quality.
3. Even if Nexus S is just a remake of Galaxy, second generation should theoretically have some problems of the first generation resolved... (lag, GPS just to name a few).
BTW all..
I can't find any comparing between the i9000 vs the HD7
HD7 cost the same as the i9000 here.
so maybe i should get the HD7?
AFAIK, HD7 is windows, not android... Does it matter to you?
I'm due to upgrade my Hero in January and currently torn between Desire HD, Galaxy S and Nexus S.
Here's my random thoughts so far, good and bad:
Nexus S
-Nice form factor, but possibly plasticy build like SGS.
-I'm not bothered about the vanilla Android experience as I would like to root flash a custom ROM from day one / as soon as available.
-I have a DSLR so the addition on LED flash over the SGS is no deal breaker.
-I have no intention of video calling so front facing camera is of no concern.
-NFC is not something I will ever use.
-Was expecting dual core, or at least a jump up from 1GHz.
-Unsure if / when T-Mobile UK will stock them.
-Most future proof of the three phones.
-Great screen.
Desire HD
-This was the main contendor to begin with but battery life seems to be a big issue for some and I don't really want a phone I have to either not use fully, disable features or charge more than once a day.
-It has Sense UI, which I have always liked.
-Great build, but possibly a little big.
-Nicest looking of the 3 phones.
-Screen not as good as Nexus S, SGS.
-Again, I have a DSLR so the 8MP camera + flash is nothing for me to get excited about.
Galaxy S
-Laggy out of the box - fixed with custom ROMs and other methods.
-GPS issues - Has this been fixed yet?
-Looks a bit too much like iPhone 3GS.
-Comfortable to hold, but feels a bit plasticy.
-Should get similar updates to Nexus 2, or at least good ports.
-Great screen.
-Increasing amount of decent custom ROMs, mods and themes.
So, with all that said, I'm still no closer to choosing one!
T-Mobile UK do both DHD and SGS already so I'll wait and see if they carry the Nexus S and then maybe I'll be able to make my mind up
Lee
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AFAIK, HD7 is windows, not android... Does it matter to you?
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I understand that the HD7 is almost the same as Desire HD in all terms..
so i guess that it's only a metter of time that a Dual boot will come out..I think..
What do you say?
I want to buy the mobile this week... I can't wait >_<
HD7 or i9000?
I know how you feel Lee...
But for me the Desire HD isn't a choice, cos it's cost 300$ more then the other phones..
that why i think about the HD7 as a choise..
and another thing.... The price hasn't change a bit even if you buy a Used one..
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I know how you feel Lee...
But for me the Desire HD isn't a choice, cos it's cost 300$ more then the other phones..
that why i think about the HD7 as a choise..
and another thing.... The price hasn't change a bit even if you buy a Used one..
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Wow, that's quite a price jump!
Personally, I'd go for the i9000 over any WinMo 7 based phone purely from an OS point of view.
My friend has the HTC Trophy WinMo 7 phone and it's a great handset, however I think the OS has a while to go before it's a worthy competitor for Android.
Don't buy Desire HD, it's a crap, beside the higher price than SGS, its battery life is horrible and its screen is never as good as Samsung's Super AMOLED.
If time is not problem, you should wait for Nexus S because it has the same specs as SGS plus Android 2.3, flash LED and good supports from Google.
You should get the desire hd it looks the best it don't have that crappy pentile and HTC has a 8mpx camera with flash has a micro SD card slot , and does anyone even use more than 500mb for apps/games anyway ?? , xda already has some wicked roms and with the new snapdragon(better than hummingbird *opinion*) the phone is mega fast straight outside the box and finally HTC always is the next in line for there updates
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But Nexus S not working on 850MHz for 3G
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3. Even if Nexus S is just a remake of Galaxy, second generation should theoretically have some problems of the first generation resolved... (lag, GPS just to name a few).
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I was waiting for the Nexus S - I really wanted a stock Android phone, and when I saw the pictures I got very excited - and then I saw the lack of 850MHz 3G (UMTS) support.
Arguable the fastest and best coverage 3G network in Australia, the Telstra network runs on 850MHz (like AT&T and Rogers I believe). Pricing might not be as good - but work can pay for that .
So my question - should I wait with fingers crossed that a 850MHz 3G version of the Nexus S is developed/released, or should I just get a SGS (Telsta capable version - sorry can't post link am too much of a noob) and load stock Android on to it (assuming that in a couple of months someone will have figured how to do this for Gingerbread)?
I'm tempted to wait at least a little while, as no announcement of any availably of the Nexus S in Australia yet, but I really want to upgrade from my BlackBerry Bold soon (it and it's temperamental scroll "pearl" are is driving me mad!) The temptation to wait yet longer for a Honeycomb flavored phone is probably not enough to make me hold off.
Thanks for any thoughts/opinions on this idea
So how do my fellow HD7 owners feel about this:
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/devices/htc-hd7s.jsp
No difference but the S-LCD screen which is quite a big upgrade in the screen department. Other than better viewing angles, what are the advantages of it?
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So how do my fellow HD7 owners feel about this:
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/devices/htc-hd7s.jsp
No difference but the S-LCD screen which is quite a big upgrade in the screen department. Other than better viewing angles, what are the advantages of it?
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Hmmm... I wonder if we will be able to purchase the S-LCD screen to replace the normal LCD if we want to?
Does anyone think this would work?
Glad to see this coming to AT&T but I always love to have more choice. I wonder if this phone will be HSPA+ 14.4 enabled? That would give it a nice speed bump over the current crop of phones offered. I currently use a Samsung Focus and really love it. I might pass this to the wife and snatch up an HD7S if the price is decent.
i too have the focus and glad att is picking up the hd7 with the slcd. tempted to pick one up when released
I am angry...
I don't know what i should do. Sell my HD7 on Ebay and then wait for the S version?
I don't think the S version is going to T-Mobile. It'll probably use AT&T 3G bands which doesn't include 1700. Same reason I can't get a Dell Venue Pro. I don't want to be stuck with EDGE. Hopefully, we'll see some more phones/info from the CTIA this weekend.
was thinking about getting the Bell version or whatever one worked with at&t but now I can just wait. Wonder what the off contract price will be.
Dell Streak powered by Streakdroid 1.9.0b5
Tempest790 said:
I don't think the S version is going to T-Mobile. It'll probably use AT&T 3G bands which doesn't include 1700. Same reason I can't get a Dell Venue Pro. I don't want to be stuck with EDGE. Hopefully, we'll see some more phones/info from the CTIA this weekend.
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I have a question. Does HD7 Hardware support 4G or HSPA+ from T-Mobile? Or it is just a problem that Windows Phone 7 doesn't support it yet?
BTW, i have read several articles at Bing and found out, HD7 + S-LCD Screen = HD7S, that all. and the S-LCD gives us a better angle of viewing. The S-LCD is still far away from the Super AMOLED Screen. If HTC put the Super AMOLED in HD7, i will sell my current HD7 right away.
I will not take a S-LCD for a better viewing angle and have a more-expensive plan from AT&T.
Sorry for my bad English
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The S-LCD is still far away from the Super AMOLED Screen. If HTC put the Super AMOLED in HD7, i will sell my current HD7 right away.
I will not take a S-LCD for a better viewing angle and have a more-expensive plan from AT&T.
Sorry for my bad English
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It's probably never gonna happen. First of all currently AMOLED or Super AMOLED is in constant short supply. Even Samsung itself has to limit certain phones sold to certain countires use S-LCD instead of SAMOLED.
Second of all, current Super AMOLED is 4" and the future Super AMOLED 2 is 4.5". There is no 4.3" variant. So it won't fit current HD7 size unless HTC redesigns the whole thing.
This device also comes with the NoDo update which HD7 on T-Mobile are still waiting to receive..
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This device also comes with the NoDo update which HD7 on T-Mobile are still waiting to receive..
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you mean were waiting to receive
I played around with it today at CTIA and its more than just the viewing angles. The colors are very vibrant compared to the HD7. Its brighter as well. I will pick up an Samsung S II and the HD7S for AT&T networks.
Please excuse my ignorance with WP7 lately. I returned the HD7 when they first came out due to bad reception in my area. But I was wondering how GV voice now ? Is there anything that works like Google Voice? Its a very important thing i have Google voice on my phones.
Thanks
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you mean were waiting to receive
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Nope, are.
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Nope, are.
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your right
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I am angry...
I don't know what i should do. Sell my HD7 on Ebay and then wait for the S version?
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the att version will replace the t-mobile version once the merger is done, because none of our hd7's will have 3g by then.
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It's probably never gonna happen. First of all currently AMOLED or Super AMOLED is in constant short supply. Even Samsung itself has to limit certain phones sold to certain countires use S-LCD instead of SAMOLED.
Second of all, current Super AMOLED is 4" and the future Super AMOLED 2 is 4.5". There is no 4.3" variant. So it won't fit current HD7 size unless HTC redesigns the whole thing.
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Never heared about this before. Can they just make 4.3 one ?
That would be perfect.
@mr8820: Not really sure, almost all websites comfirm the HD7S has the same hardware as the HD7, except the S-LCD Screen. the HD7 of T-Mobile even doesn't support their HSPA+ , only HSPA, no 4G love.
I will keep this baby for at least 1 Year, until i find something more interesting. I am not a really big fan of Android so i have no plan of buying Desire HD or EVO 4G, Thunderbolt right now.
Here's a video of it.
Honestly doesn't look that much better, still some colour distortion at extreme angles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpBqn6puWfc
I have heard it has a lot processing power, even better than the LG 2x.
But how is build quality compared to the 2x??
What about the NFC chip which is currently installed in the Nexus S?
I have heard that UK version of the Galaxy S2 doesn't have an NFC?
But what about the continental version of S2? I mean the phone released in Germany, France, Spain, Denmark etc? Does that version have an NFC chip??
Finally I have been considering the HTC Sensation.
I know that the S2 has more internal memory etc. But daily usage which of those phones would give biggest bang for the buck??
there will be with NFC version but it will cost you extra money (really really extra) as the phone is already quite expensive...but in my opinion the galaxy s2 is the best phone right now in the market.......consider the LG 2X and upcoming HTC Sensation(With new Sense) which both are dual core but i still believe galaxy s2 is the best........but if we considering back about FW update by Samsung....it will be the only pain in ass for Galaxy S2...
As far as I know, no NFC in Europe for the SGS2.
Though it's still plastic, build quality looks a little better than the original Galaxy S. I especially like the carbon backplate.
Overall, I think the SGS2 is probably the best new phone out there. The hardware is amazing and it looks as if Samsung has really optimized the software. The fact they swapped RFS for EXT4 will spare us the need of using lagfixes (even if they weren't really needed in the latest GB firmwares for our own SGS).
I wouldn't write the Sensation off either, but the locked bootloader is a huge down for me. I do like Sense though.
That said, I'm not gonna make the jump as I don't have the luxury to change phone every year. I'll probably go for the Galaxy S 3 or something.
I have yet to see a single NFC device in UK, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. It took the London Underground ages to persuade people to use the Oyster card alone.
From what I've read both are good phones. Just stay away from LG.
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There will be NFC in uk 16 gb version, in uk there won't be 32 gb version
So does this phone really cost almost 850 in US Dollars w/ out a plan, or am I just not looking in the right places?
Sounds about right, thats a good price
If it gets the developer attintion sgs 1 got, and u manage to find the exynos version of it (not the tegra2 one) then go for it..i have tried the phone from a friend...its truly amazing and unlike desire hd or hd2 the size is not bothersome..its simply amazing..
I think you have to, it's a great device!!
Cheap plastic quality like the SGS but that's not a problem for me
I had the 2x for few days, except the great graphics nothing special.
I vote for the SGS2
SGS 1 GB 2.3 Rom Kitchen build
8/10
SGS 2 stock no customization 10/10
Is how i would score them just a step up not a great leap forward .
jje
source WMPowerUser.
T-Mobile has gotten rid of its last large-screened Windows Phone 7 handset, effectively leaving prospective Windows Phone 7 buyers with currently only the choice of the HTC Radar or in the near future the Nokia Lumia 710.
Rightly or wrongly, buyers associate large screens with high end devices, effectively meaning if you want a high-end handset the only choice is to go to AT&T, where the 4.3 inch Samsung Focus S or 4.7 inch HTC Titan can be purchased for considerably more of course.
The same issue exists on Verizon with the HTC Trophy and Sprint with the HTC Arrive.
While we recognize Microsoft’s decision to attack the low-end high volume value segment of the market with Windows Phone 7, not having high-end hero devices available on the same network will do real damage to the brand.
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I saw this. I'm hoping it means something bigger or similar is on its way in the near future. Smaller than 4" just doesn't do it for me. I'm hoping Titan or Nokia 900. Either would make this ending acceptable.
Fortunately, I have the HD7 and I'm still loving it. I would consider the Titan for its front-facing camera and higher quality sound for my mp3's. I always wondered who decides what model goes where. It seems AT&T is getting most of the phones. If Windows Phone is expected to take off, the people need to see options. Microsoft, please give us options!
I'd also like to see more options also. I just recently bought an HD7 on ebay because I was curious to see how windows evolved since the days of the Wing which had windows mobile 6 professional (which was pretty terrible in my opinion). I've had my Sensation since it came out in June and was getting bored so I wanted to try a windows phone again and boy is it different. Overall, I think I like it though. Maybe I'll buy another someday. But not if the only phone t-mobile is offering with WP7 is the radar. I'm not a fan of white phones at all.
patience lad....don't do anything stupid !
2012 is the year of Windows Phone's
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patience lad....don't do anything stupid !
2012 is the year of Windows Phone's
PS: Can you quote the video game reference above ??
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20XX is the year of the PS3. lol