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Vote For Kaiser ... Gadget of the Year

I know what problems everyone is facing... Due to Improper Video Drivers and all but despite being laggy on some Video Playback and all... i Love my Kaiser and i already voted for it ...
Go ahead Support This device ... I know many of you Love this device.. so go ahead vote for it ... NO REGISTRATION REQUIRED
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Gadget of the year
Smart phone of the year
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/20/vote-for-the-2007-engadget-awards/

Sticky this thread please.
I know we all have had issues with the Kaiser but its still a good phone and with HTC now coming alongside with a possible solution it should beat the Nokia N85!!!!!!

I wont vote for it without drivers..

Are you kidding me? Yeah. Let HTC think we're all happy with this phone! (sarcasm)
Sure, I'll admit the phone works great for my uses, but they still dropped the ball.

No surprise, the iPhone wins even though it doesn't qualify as a smartphone (engadget knows that). Also voted for Apple TV as worst.

bshakil said:
I know what problems everyone is facing... Due to Improper Video Drivers and all but despite being laggy on some Video Playback and all... i Love my Kaiser and i already voted for it ...
Go ahead Support This device ... I know many of you Love this device.. so go ahead vote for it ... NO REGISTRATION REQUIRED
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Gadget of the year
Smart phone of the year
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/20/vote-for-the-2007-engadget-awards/
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Certainly, just after they provide drivers that utilized the MSM 7200 on die ATI hardware acceleration with direct draw functions, and NOT a debugged version of the current 3D implementation of the software that runs on main processor.
"You can't have any pudding if you don't eat your meat... How can you have your pudding if you don't eat your meat...?"
?Glitch

That entire contest is one big collective circle-jerk for the engadget readers to confirm to themselves how superior they think apple is. Key word being "think". In every category that an apple product is nominated for, apple is winning. EVERY one. It doesn't matter if there are other products that are better, the voters are ignorant.
Example: For Peripheral of the year, the apple keyboard is winning. There are at least 3 other peripherals on the list that are more innovative and better products. I think the Belkin network USB hub should win, but bc apple puts out a thin keyboard, everyone bends over.

marm0lade said:
That entire contest is one big collective circle-jerk for the engadget readers to confirm to themselves how superior they think apple is. Key word being "think". In every category that an apple product is nominated for, apple is winning. EVERY one. It doesn't matter if there are other products that are better, the voters are ignorant.
Example: For Peripheral of the year, the apple keyboard is winning. There are at least 3 other peripherals on the list that are more innovative and better products. I think the Belkin network USB hub should win, but bc apple puts out a thin keyboard, everyone bends over.
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Thats because most people don't realize the capablities of what PPC's can do man.. It's honestly not their fault. As normal default our phones vs Iphone, no offense mate. Iphone rips this **** to shreds..
And I am only talking about OUT OF THE BOX default...
But if we're talking about people like us, who know about technology, and understand the capabilities of what a PPC can do. Then yes, obviously the PPC kills, crush, destroys any other phone..
You gotta remember, majority of people don't know **** about technology.. You shouldn't hold it against them, honestly they can't be bothered to learn, it isn't their hobby. its ours.

Nooo don't do it!
Whilst I love my Kaiser, I can only see this being detrimental to all of the good work over at htcclassaction.
I'm not one of these people who state they wouldn't ever buy another HTC phone, the video issue doesn't really bite at me that much and personally, it's the best phone I've ever owned. I'd never admit that to HTC because it's not all that it should be. Now if they release proper drivers, I'll vote for it
marm0lade; said:
That entire contest is one big collective circle-jerk for the engadget readers to confirm to themselves how superior they think apple is. Key word being "think". In every category that an apple product is nominated for, apple is winning. EVERY one. It doesn't matter if there are other products that are better, the voters are ignorant.
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That depends on who is voting really, if it's consumer, then they bought the product, they experienced it and felt one way or another about it. If they feel inclined to vote it as best 'whatever' of the year and apple wins, then surely apple is superior, their product may or may not be but thats just a matter of opinion really.
I apple is like Marmite, you either love it or hate it (and if you really feel strongly about that go here http://www.marmite.com/ ).
Thats just my two pence worth anyway

Kepela523 said:
You gotta remember, majority of people don't know **** about technology.. You shouldn't hold it against them, honestly they can't be bothered to learn, it isn't their hobby. its ours.
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LMAO, true, true. I don't know about can't be bothered though, don't need to I think is more accurate. For most people these things do just what they want them to. They look flashy and all of their mates go "Wow, thats cool. I want one of those", another Happy customer.

bshakil said:
I know what problems everyone is facing... Due to Improper Video Drivers and all but despite being laggy on some Video Playback and all... i Love my Kaiser and i already voted for it ...
Go ahead Support This device ... I know many of you Love this device.. so go ahead vote for it ... NO REGISTRATION REQUIRED
Remember to VOTE IN TWO CATEGORIES
Gadget of the year
Smart phone of the year
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/20/vote-for-the-2007-engadget-awards/
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Why should I vote for something that is slower than my old 8125?
The only advantage of the kaiser is the gps...

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. It doesn't matter if there are other products that are better, the voters are ignorant.
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Sounds like you describe the voting system in the U.S.! ;-)
I agree, Apple's products always have a cult following and Apple always shows up as #1. Perhaps they are #1 for buyers, but the products never seem to align with my needs. A locked phone that requires jailbreaks and other underhanded tactics to use is nothing but a pretty brick to me.
Also the Asus EEEPC or whatever, that looks like a small factor laptop not a mobile phone. Does that thing even support GSM networks? Why is that in there?
I'm unhappy with my Kaiser performance, but still happy I have it. I voted for Kaiser, because the iPhone and that EEEPC is a brick for me.

jon_k said:
I agree, Apple's products always have a cult following and Apple always shows up as #1. Perhaps they are #1 for buyers, but the products never seem to align with my needs. A locked phone that requires jailbreaks and other underhanded tactics to use is nothing but a pretty brick to me.
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Does that apply to SIM/CID unlocking, ROM ripping too? How many of us on here are actually using stock unmodified phones?

Oooh... it was tough deciding between my Asus eee and my Tilt... but I voted for tilt XD
Only downside is Engadget (as much as I love it and read it everyday) is Apple-Fan Center. Good Luck fighting them fanboys :S
Every apple product is leading "positive" awards =S

Is there a category for "Fraud of the Year"? If so, I vote for the Kaiser.

why I dont like apple

Its very annoying everywhere I turn I hear ipod or iphone as if that is the only mp3 player or cell phone in existance. I turn the tv on to watch news then I hear the pope got a ipod, a next time I heard president obama have a ipod, next time I heard doctors are using ipod for something (cant remember what), next time I heard apple white iphone is delayed and many customers are waiting for it(its just a color), a next time I heard apple app store have a grill thermometer app.
These are some of things that I heard on the news and it makes me wonder if the station is getting paid everytime they mention a apple product. Yesterday im watching the news and a tech commentator came on and was talking about verizon iphone. He said the verizon version internet is a little slower than at&t but atleast you will be able to make calls with verizon version. If apple version was so bad with voice call how come it was so hush hush. My friend iphone always drop calls and he always have excuse like he was on a bridge, he just pass a over pass, he just pass a dead spot but he would not say its the phone. I asked my friend to send me a picture to my cell that he took out with his iphone, he said he would have to wait until he reach home to do it from his mac book because the iphone couldnt send pic. This was couple years ago when the iphone first came out. This is what you call a loyal fanboy.
Apple is doing a very good job with advertisement. People around me never heard of a N1 but then again i didnt buy it because it was the in-thing. Im not afraid to tell a apple fanboy my left soft key on my N1 can be unresponsive and its very annoying. 3 times for the 10 months I own my N1, when I try to take a pic the phone would completely die. I was thinking the flash was consuming too much battery or maybe its my cheap ebay spare battery. It didnt happen that often for me to try to narrow it down.
did I mention im not a fan for any thing apple. awwwww i feel better.

Yah I'm not crazy about the fan boys either. They think there phone is the like the best phone in the world.

I used to be a fanboy and i still have a lot of respect for the iPhone if it wasnt for them google probably wouldnt be making the phones we have now. our operating system might not exist and we wouldnt have this awesome forum to bash steve jobs. but you have to admit its a pretty impressive device a lot smoother and refined than most of the android phones out there. its biggest limitation is that is has a big ugly apple on it. Mac is obsurd with their locking everything up. if they would just open up then maybe theyd be worth half what the android os is

I don't "hate" apple for capitalizing on a fragmented (heh) mobile market. They see consumer electronics as a sector with untapped potential and made an ecosystem off of it. If you think about it, every manufacturer would sell their soul for the success that Apple has been having. Further more, you should appreciate for what Apple is doing, otherwise most of these manufacturers would still be lagging 10yrs behind in development.
While i do agree that all mp3 players are being grouped up as "ipod" and all phones as "iphones" etc, that's more of a fault with the dumb general public for creating the generalization than Apple's own-doing.

People think that we have capable phones thanks to Apple,but that isnt true,
the IPhone has just a new capacitive multitouch screen.
There were nice smartphones before like Palm Treo,and others.
I had a used Nokia 9210i communicator,way older than the Iphone,
it seems to be the first phone sporting installable programs.
For Android we dont have to thank Apple that they put a crippled OSX on their
phones but we have to thank the Linux devs that their OS is free and has a lot of software available.Hacker had patches for a lot of PDAs running this OS for years.
Now we have WP7 that tells us to throw all previous phones into trash,because
it doesnt run our software without a lot of source changes and runs only on overpriced high-end hardware.

This is a real convo I had yesterday ... I explained after wards (Randomly calling him Jim )
Me *Get's out phone and goes on Angry Birds*
Jim "Hey, that's not an iPhone how did you get that!?"
Me "I downloaded it"
Jim "But i though only iPhones could get apps"
Me *facepalm*

It's not the iphone I hate, it's the goddamn fan club I have a problem with.
Its a great piece of hardware. The OS is so simple a child can use it. Much like the mental capacity of its fanbois.

MacaronyMax said:
This is a real convo I had yesterday ... I explained after wards (Randomly calling him Jim )
Me *Get's out phone and goes on Angry Birds*
Jim "Hey, that's not an iPhone how did you get that!?"
Me "I downloaded it"
Jim "But i though only iPhones could get apps"
Me *facepalm*
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hahahahahahaha what a dumbass. sorry if i'm insulting your friend, but that's just stupid.

Yup apple is sh*t
I plugged the ipod speakers in my Sony Walkman hit the bass button and the sound was like the speakers are farting!
Stopped the bass feature and the sound was still like sh*t.
I plugged my speakers in an ipod and the sound wasn't that good, IDK why they say that the ipod has a clear voice when it sounds like crappy FM radio.

I had a white 3gs and I loved it. But it got damaged at&t screwed me over and apple said oh well. I played with my friends n1 and had to have android in the end I went with the evo only because sprint cut me a better deal than T-Mobile. I went to buy the G2 and it would have cost almost $1000 just for the phone and new 2 yr.
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btw, KarlosTheJackal pposted something funny in this thread:
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My favoute "custy" ever came in & we had this convo (to explain the grading system i work at a second hand store, we grade everything A,B or C based on there condition):
Custy: "You have them new iPhones in stock"
Me: "Yes, we have both the 16GB & 32GB in stock both in 'A' Grade condition"
Custy: "Does that come with that talking cat thingy?"
Me: "Pardon?"
Custy: "Don't play stupid, you know that program/app thingy that the cat talks to you"
Me: "Do you mean 'Talking Tom Cat'?"
Custy: "Thats the one, does it come with it?"
Me: "Its not pre-installed, its a free app you download of apples market place"
Custy: "How much for the app thingy?"
Me: "Ive just said its free"
Custy: "I won't take one of them iPhones unless it has that on it"
Me: "I can put it on there if you like"
Custy: "Yes"
To sum it up, she paid £550 for a 32GB iPhone4 for one free app that she could have gotten on an iPod Touch.
That was the day I lost hope for humanity...
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Thank you!! Well said
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Really? I see more people with Androids/Blackberrys.
Why I like Apple:
1)They do nice designs for their products.
2)Operating system is better for viruses not because there are none, but if they do get in they do less damage than they would on Windows.
3) They have better games for iTouch/iPhone than for Android, I want some more gameloft games, and "lite" games.
Why I don't like Apple:
1) Over priced
2) Lack of customization, and I'm having a harder time jail breaking the free iTouch I received.
3) Lack of game support for their computers
4)Fanboys really ruin the community for Apple because if you mention one con about Apple they eat you like a starving man and a cheesecake.

MacaronyMax said:
This is a real convo I had yesterday ... I explained after wards (Randomly calling him Jim )
Me *Get's out phone and goes on Angry Birds*
Jim "Hey, that's not an iPhone how did you get that!?"
Me "I downloaded it"
Jim "But i though only iPhones could get apps"
Me *facepalm*
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Same here!! Angry birds and its not an iPhail/iPhuck?

Why is XDA-Developers the anti-Apple site? I just don't get all the Apple hate around this place. They are what they are. I use some Apple products. I'm typing this on a MacBook Pro right now that I *need* for my business because I rely on software that ONLY runs on OS X. I also have a couple of Android phones and a BlackBerry... and while there are things about the iPhone that draw me in, how closed it is puts me off. But it's also a selling point, as it's what allows Apple to create the experience they do.
We have a free market, and we should be GLAD for Apple. And Android. And Windows Phone 7. And even Symbian. The free market is what causes ALL platforms to progress and develop at the rate they do in order to keep up with each other.

Cimer said:
Why I don't like Apple:
1) Over priced
2) Lack of customization, and I'm having a harder time jail breaking the free iTouch I received.
3) Lack of game support for their computers
4)Fanboys really ruin the community for Apple because if you mention one con about Apple they eat you like a starving man and a cheesecake.
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1. I hear this argument, and I don't see the truth in it at all. iPhone is priced competitively with high-end Android phones in the same class.
2. This is VERY true, unfortunately.
3. Um, seriously? No. I'd argue consoles are better for games anyways, but Macs run games pretty well. Granted, there aren't a lot of games for Mac OS X but that isn't Apple's fault. And you can run any OS you feel like on your Mac, so dual-boot with Windows if you need Windows games. Unfortunately, I can't run Mac OS X on any generic hardware I want without some hacking, and I rely on programs that are ONLY available for OS X. That seems more a reason to be anti-Apple than the other way around
4. Isn't the whole point of this thread (and it seems much of this site) the ANTI-Apple fanboys? The idiotic fanboys are everywhere (though Verizon seems to have the most - and I must say the Verizon iPhone scares me. Combine Apple's fanboys with Verizon's fanboys and you have the potential for a nuclear explosion of fanboyism in the coming months). Ignore them, they don't change the real merits of a product.

It's marketing. Apple and developers create the product, and then people market them. Apple does not create markets, but they sure as hell know how to expand it. There was a small tablet market before the Ipad, but when the Ipad came and hit, the tablet market blew up. Same thing with smart phones. Smart phones wouldn't have grown and expanded to the general public if apple didn't put out the Iphone.
Also, haven't had an issue jailbreaking. If you have an Iphone before 4.2, jailbreakme.com. If you have newer, redsn0w supports windows and mac. As for games, it's up to the developers, not the OS. Steam and valve have support for OS X, ID games do seeing that they're opengl games, and there are cider wrappers for a lot of games out there.
I wish apple would develop a computer that uses desktop parts and not mobile or workstation parts, since that drives cost up some. But for that, I have osx86. Until Apple makes a machine with complete desktop parts, well osx86 for me.

Just wanting to put a few things in here.
While reading through this thread, it seemed like all i was reading was a large group of teenage douche bags all getting together and talking about something they don't like.
Don't get me wrong, I love android but it doesn't have to be this "I hate apple, I love android" thing, they BOTH have their strengths and weaknesses.
Both OSs have been hacked because there are things people don't like about both, not just Apple. I mean, we are on a forum that is dedicated to IMPROVING the Android OS, obviously because it isn't what we would like it to be and we can make it better.
The iPhone is an amazing phone; if you have a good signal on ATT (which I have always had, never had that whole dropped calls thing over and over like people state they have) then most people don't have complaints becUse it just works. The OS is intuitive, very clean, and very easy to navigate.
When people ask me which to get, I always ask them right away, "are you going to be customizing the phone? How adept are you with computers?" if they aren't, I direct theto iOS because it is better as a STOCK OS.
If we couldn't hack and change android like we can, it might be a little better, but ONLY if you were very into the customization; for the average consumer, IOS is better. That's why it sells.

i*hone is a way over priced over hyped device imo

vbetts said:
It's marketing. Apple and developers create the product, and then people market them. Apple does not create markets, but they sure as hell know how to expand it. There was a small tablet market before the Ipad, but when the Ipad came and hit, the tablet market blew up. Same thing with smart phones. Smart phones wouldn't have grown and expanded to the general public if apple didn't put out the Iphone.
Also, haven't had an issue jailbreaking. If you have an Iphone before 4.2, jailbreakme.com. If you have newer, redsn0w supports windows and mac. As for games, it's up to the developers, not the OS. Steam and valve have support for OS X, ID games do seeing that they're opengl games, and there are cider wrappers for a lot of games out there.
I wish apple would develop a computer that uses desktop parts and not mobile or workstation parts, since that drives cost up some. But for that, I have osx86. Until Apple makes a machine with complete desktop parts, well osx86 for me.
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thats why i just build my own pc's

What happened to my friend: Purple Drama Llama?

My friend and boss has vanished and I haven't seen any active use of his profile so what happened?
Anybody kill him?

Yeah don't buy one But besides that no, I've never used one.
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-

The only reason I'd buy a Mac is for dedicated audio recording and nothing else.
Oh yeah and loooking coooool in public.
Get a real computer, that's my top tip.
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Alanrocks15 said:
Yes I am buying one
I elves always used windows pc's so im new to the os
Any tips?
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Don't buy
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//Lock it up!

Lol wtf why its soooo cool
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No! Don't be tempted! Just buy an alienware laptop!
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-

Alanrocks15 said:
Lol wtf why its soooo cool
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Wrong place mostly. The majority here doesn't like Apple to begin with, and we tinkerers don't like the idea of having an overpriced piece of tech. For the same price, you could have gotten a much better spec'd Windows kit. And if you are going desktop, by building your own rig, you could have built something that'll blow the Mac completely out of the world and still have change to bring your girl out for a date

sakai4eva said:
Wrong place mostly. The majority here doesn't like Apple to begin with, and we tinkerers don't like the idea of having an overpriced piece of tech. For the same price, you could have gotten a much better spec'd Windows kit. And if you are going desktop, by building your own rig, you could have built something that'll blow the Mac completely out of the world and still have change to bring your girl out for a date
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That's why I would never go to Mac!
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-

twitch153 said:
That's why I would never go to Mac!
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-
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CSB time.
My bud's GF is called Mac. So the first time I saw her (she was kinda cute) I decided to have a dig at her.
I just told her that I hate Mac with a vengeance and I will stay loyal with XP (my girlfriend's initials). My buddy laughed and she was stunned for a few seconds, and we had to explain the joke to her. Twice.
Later on, we were sitting beside each other and I made a fuss out of distancing with her, saying I'm allergic to Apple products.
And yeah, she smacked my arm after that.

sakai4eva said:
CSB time.
My bud's GF is called Mac. So the first time I saw her (she was kinda cute) I decided to have a dig at her.
I just told her that I hate Mac with a vengeance and I will stay loyal with XP (my girlfriend's initials). My buddy laughed and she was stunned for a few seconds, and we had to explain the joke to her. Twice.
Later on, we were sitting beside each other and I made a fuss out of distancing with her, saying I'm allergic to Apple products.
And yeah, she smacked my arm after that.
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Great flashback
What is your gf's name? It starts with an X...?
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twitch153 said:
Great flashback
What is your gf's name? It starts with an X...?
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-
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Actually, I didn't have to flash that far back. It happened over the weekend. Needless to say, I mess around with people so often that I got infamous for it. It's a great icebreaker too, since it weeds out the cool people with the not-so-cool people.

Why on earth are you asking such a question here?! Folks here are fandroids! Ask another place.
But if you want one, buy it. You'll get top of the line hardware (and not thin crappy plastic fantastic ****) and you'll get a stable OS that's not crying about viruses everytime you're downloading Girls Gone Wild Vol. 86.
People here only writes "F*** Apple", "get a real computer", "Steve Jobs gave me herpes" and things like that. Their actually not here to help you.
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BazookaAce said:
Why on earth are you asking such a question here?! Folks here are fandroids! Ask another place.
But if you want one, buy it. You'll get top of the line hardware (and not thin crappy plastic fantastic ****) and you'll get a stable OS that's not crying about viruses everytime you're downloading Girls Gone Wild Vol. 86.
People here only writes "F*** Apple", "get a real computer", "Steve Jobs gave me herpes" and things like that. Their actually not here to help you.
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To whit, I submit the following questions to the OP and to Mr. BazookaAce:
What is the purpose of such a machine? Are you genuinely using it for the software suites that only Mac can handle? Or you're simply trying to impress the chicks that will never notice you otherwise?
If you answered "Yes" to the last two questions, you might need a Mac. Otherwise, move along. There is genuinely better laptops for a better price.

sakai4eva said:
To whit, I submit the following questions to the OP and to Mr. BazookaAce:
What is the purpose of such a machine? Are you genuinely using it for the software suites that only Mac can handle? Or you're simply trying to impress the chicks that will never notice you otherwise?
If you answered "Yes" to the last two questions, you might need a Mac. Otherwise, move along. There is genuinely better laptops for a better price.
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I use an hp dv7 as my main computer. First laptop. Now that I have it, I see the use of a portable laptop. I want an air because it is extremely portable. Fully operational computer. Spec something out that compares to it. You whine and cry about overpriced pos. Yes the desktops are. But put up or shut up. Spec a windows unit out that compares. Apple got it right with the air, and it's the only mac I would buy.
And to the op, only tip would be spend an extra bill to get 4gb of ram. Otherwise leave it as is if you have other computers to work from. It's a good ultra portable as is, just that bump in ram will boost performance to do all you need as a second portable device. Go for it.

boborone said:
I use an hp dv7 as my main computer. First laptop. Now that I have it, I see the use of a portable laptop. I want an air because it is extremely portable. Fully operational computer. Spec something out that compares to it. You whine and cry about overpriced pos. Yes the desktops are. But put up or shut up. Spec a windows unit out that compares. Apple got it right with the air, and it's the only mac I would buy.
And to the op, only tip would be spend an extra bill to get 4gb of ram. Otherwise leave it as is if you have other computers to work from. It's a good ultra portable as is, just that bump in ram will boost performance to do all you need as a second portable device. Go for it.
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*shrugs*
I game too much, so my opinion is completely and truly biased.
Go ahead with your purchase, with the knowledge that a stoopid Dell XPS 14 can beat the shark out of a MacBook Air 13" for about 30% off. And I'm talking better processor, GPU and RAM. And you can buy a nice SSD for the price difference, and keep your old HDD in an external enclosure. And still have change for the spare battery.
Like I said, if you genuinely need something that Mac has to offer (like multimedia stuff), a Mac is good. But for any other reasons, a PC will serve you better. In fact, I have recommended Macs to two of my friends; a budding photographer and a musician. They loved it for what it can do that Windows couldn't
So my question still stands; do you NEED a Mac? Or do you buy it because you're an Apple tool?

First thing is recommend.... Wait until about July when the refresh comes out, it'll most likely have a sandybrige CPU meaning better performance and battery life, although they will probably remove the dedicated graphics card and use the onboard Intel 3000HD thing I have a macbook air from 2008 btw..
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They are great little laptops, we had two at work.
This may be a problem that has been resolved now, but both had problems with the display hinge breaking. Apple repaired both of them without any problem, even though one was out of warranty.
I eventually got fed up with the small screen and got a 15 inch 'Pro'.
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sakai4eva said:
To whit, I submit the following questions to the OP and to Mr. BazookaAce:
What is the purpose of such a machine? Are you genuinely using it for the software suites that only Mac can handle? Or you're simply trying to impress the chicks that will never notice you otherwise?
If you answered "Yes" to the last two questions, you might need a Mac. Otherwise, move along. There is genuinely better laptops for a better price.
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First of all, i'm not 12 years old. I'm not a gamer. Second, i don't care about the price. Some buys a Mercedes or BMW, and some nerds will buy a Kia, put 800 HK in it, and call it gods work. No, it's still a piece of **** that will crash and burn more often then Mr Sheen.
People like nice things, and people like stability. Not everyone likes a Alienware box that will melt within 3 minutes of use.
But it doesn't matter what i say, since you're most likely a 13 year old chick with cheetos on your pubs, and needs to grow a pair.
Bazooka OUT!
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BazookaAce said:
First of all, i'm not 12 years old. I'm not a gamer. Second, i don't care about the price. Some buys a Mercedes or BMW, and some nerds will buy a Kia, put 800 HK in it, and call it gods work. No, it's still a piece of **** that will crash and burn more often then Mr Sheen.
People like nice things, and people like stability. Not everyone likes a Alienware box that will melt within 3 minutes of use.
But it doesn't matter what i say, since you're most likely a 13 year old chick with cheetos on your pubs, and needs to grow a pair.
Bazooka OUT!
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you are gonna get pwned by sakai4eva dude

btw, why are everyone *****ing about stability in windows? i have a sony vaio z and i NEVER noticed any lag or crashes. looks like people are still using windows xp or running win 7 on ****ty hardware.

[RANT]Why do the current tablets SUCK?

I'm shopping around for a new tablet, well I should preface with this. I have lusted after convertible tablets and slate tablets since I was 14, and luckily in 2008, I got the dell xt followed by the dell xt2. And now I am in the helm to shop for a new tablet. And then I settled on this pretty piece of machinery for my next purchase - the lenovo x220t. And it looks great...
So, happy ending. Seems like a great buy right? NO! I buy this and I am issued with the same crap I've been getting for years. An actual tablet OS. Oh yes someone chimed in - install android on it, you will love it. Er, no I don't. If I wanted a phone OS, I would get a phone OS. I hate the fact that if tablets are discussed, some brain dead ignoramus talks about oh get the ipad, or get the samsung galaxy or the motorola xoom.
And granted the xoom, by the hardware is mediocre at best that is further limited by a less than stellar android honeycomb in which the developers have done some of the stupidest things in terms of creating a lack of UX/UI Standard. Yes, the fricking "stage" looks nice, but in simple tasks like opening or closing the browser tabs, deleting email, programs, it totally and completely SUCKS. Yeah, the iOS for ipad is further refined in several instances, but if I wanted to buy a phone OS, I would get a phone. I can at least say, android is taking a step in a better direction by dividing the two OSes to make different developmental gains.
But what about the current crop of OSes now? Ubuntu, while fast, sucks, even with that pathetic god forsaken unity bull on it. Mac OSX, don't get me started! Windows 7, while fast, also sucks. And if you customize it for finger friendly operations, you get the ugliest pieces of crap I have personally ever seen. Maybe I should try the overlays. Yes been there tried that. It's like putting makeup on a pig. It doesn't hide the fact that it's still a pig and it surely don't make it pretty!
So at the end of this rant, what is a person to do who doesn't want god awful honeycomb or the laughable iOS or the pee poor big game changers. Wait, no really. That's the mythical answer. Wait. And that answer ticks me off! It's almost been 10 years since convertibles came around to be affordable and even more since the tablet actually began. In all that time, not one single OS can fit for a tablet paradigm? That mixes support for desktop applications that is stylish?
Who in the holy hell can save us from this tablet dominated trite that we have been exposed to for years!?

I'll add some gasoline to this fire. Wait for a good tablet or learn to bend your tastes a bit. Nothing is perfect.
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-

twitch153 said:
I'll add some gasoline to this fire. Wait for a good tablet or learn to bend your tastes a bit. Nothing is perfect.
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-
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don't ya think a 10 year wait is long enough? I surely do!
I mean for once I can say well at least specs and processors are catching up to notebooks (I mean god back in the day tablets were far worse).
Bend my tastes? By trying everything under the sun and every iteration of what is considered tablet what taste am I supposed to bend to? Oh the one when I eat crap and say it tastes like gold nay I say nay!

Haha! XD Well personally I don't like tablets all like that. That's why I have my phone, and a Laptop.
And I know this is a little off topic but have you ever watched Big O?
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-

twitch153 said:
Haha! XD Well personally I don't like tablets all like that. That's why I have my phone, and a Laptop.
And I know this is a little off topic but have you ever watched Big O?
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-
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yessir!
ugh 10 characters pos

I thought so. That's where you got your user from I assume? They still air it on Adult Swim!
But back on topic, if you know all the tablets don't suit you then why buy them? That's like buying an iphone when you are clearly an apple user haha
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-

clinical psychology student
we write a lot of notes
transcribing them from notepad to typing them digitally would take too long. One note cuts the time in half. Plus paperless medium, it gives me some options

So why not just use a laptop? What advantages do you have using a tablet that a laptop won't give you?
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-

twitch153 said:
So why not just use a laptop? What advantages do you have using a tablet that a laptop won't give you?
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-
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clinical psychology student
we write a lot of notes
transcribing them from notepad to typing them digitally would take too long. One note cuts the time in half. Plus paperless medium, it gives me some options
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That's why

I guess But you're making a sacrifice either way so that's the choice you chose to make when you chose to chose a tablet
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-

oh the tablet I like its everything else and lack of options. Give me something...more i guess

Lol. I love how its just the OP and the Banana posting in this thread of randomness. Lol Lol Lol Lol

Purple Drama Llama said:
Lol. I love how its just the OP and the Banana posting in this thread of randomness. Lol Lol Lol Lol
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adding to the random banana drama llama
ugh that didn't rhyme...

Purple Drama Llama said:
Lol. I love how its just the OP and the Banana posting in this thread of randomness. Lol Lol Lol Lol
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Oh em eff gosh! You're alive!
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-

On Air : Angry computer nerd - live on xda

@OP: when you do find a good tablet for that use, let me know. My sister is going onto her clinical studies in about a year and her netbook is just too bulky (!)
I suppose an iPad would be good, but I don't wanna let her fall into the trap of Apple so soon in her life.

sakai4eva said:
@OP: when you do find a good tablet for that use, let me know. My sister is going onto her clinical studies in about a year and her netbook is just too bulky (!)
I suppose an iPad would be good, but I don't wanna let her fall into the trap of Apple so soon in her life.
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Well get a smaller netbook ...
What does she need it for ?
Pretty much Tablets have 0 data input value , and even less without win 7 , its a useless form factor to begin with

souljaboy said:
Well get a smaller netbook ...
What does she need it for ?
Pretty much Tablets have 0 data input value , and even less without win 7 , its a useless form factor to begin with
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zero data input value?
er...I just not only tutored a calc student with my tablet but just synced my 20 pages of notes via onenote that has easily converted it to text. I record my lectures on my tablet and save from the lack of a good ui/ux, this has been extremely reliable data input. And that's been there since windows xp...
In fact, spoke with a friend of mine whose an acupuncturist who lives on his tablet. Patient records, signatures, everything is on that hd and stored in some digital format.
@sakai4eva
as far as which to get, if she is doing something medical, skyscape is an indispensable block of programs that truly do help. Often I read the psychiatric information just for jokes and giggles. But for an MD student, it is fantastic. For anything else, the ipad is a joke and it's a waste of time for functional. Same can be said for the awful galaxy.
In terms of tablet pcs, what many have been crying for (myself included) is a better gpu. I am hoping the x220t sandies i7 processors will provide a better integrated gpu chip. However I will be stuck with n trig...the starting price for the x220t is 1100 USD (rumored) but probably for my specs it can easily become 2k.
Also, feel sorry for us. We can't "work" while doing this. Some schools offer assistanceships mine doesn't...damn santa barbara...

souljaboy said:
Well get a smaller netbook ...
What does she need it for ?
Pretty much Tablets have 0 data input value , and even less without win 7 , its a useless form factor to begin with
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Hope you understand some of this:
1. She has to keep running around the hospital for the entire shift.
2. She needs to write down notes for the patient's illness and the teaching doctor's explanation
3. She needs to re-read all this when she gets back and compare with her textbooks
While a netbook could have filled her needs, it is very impractical to carry it around AND type while balancing drugs, stethoscope, patient's charts, etc. A tablet would work like a notepad with the ability to write immediately on the surface (as well as sketching) without using the keyboard for data entry.
Lightweight, easy to carry, long(ish) battery life, ease of use will be key factors here. I would have bought an iPad if she started now, or possibly a PlayBook when/if it comes out right.
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zero data input value?
er...I just not only tutored a calc student with my tablet but just synced my 20 pages of notes via onenote that has easily converted it to text. I record my lectures on my tablet and save from the lack of a good ui/ux, this has been extremely reliable data input. And that's been there since windows xp...
In fact, spoke with a friend of mine whose an acupuncturist who lives on his tablet. Patient records, signatures, everything is on that hd and stored in some digital format.
@sakai4eva
as far as which to get, if she is doing something medical, skyscape is an indispensable block of programs that truly do help. Often I read the psychiatric information just for jokes and giggles. But for an MD student, it is fantastic. For anything else, the ipad is a joke and it's a waste of time for functional. Same can be said for the awful galaxy.
In terms of tablet pcs, what many have been crying for (myself included) is a better gpu. I am hoping the x220t sandies i7 processors will provide a better integrated gpu chip. However I will be stuck with n trig...the starting price for the x220t is 1100 USD (rumored) but probably for my specs it can easily become 2k.
Also, feel sorry for us. We can't "work" while doing this. Some schools offer assistanceships mine doesn't...damn santa barbara...
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Thanks for the tip on skyscape. If/when she gets her smartphone (no sponsorship here), I'll make sure she gets it.
I don't think she will need a unit with a "powerful" GPU per se, so I'm pretty much settled on the iPad unless the PlayBook turns out to be soooo much better.
As for the tablet, it'll be paid by myself or my father. She's gonna owe me big time for this

playbook may not have skyscape support
and for writing anything the ipad SUCKS
onenote has a much better system especially with cloud integration. Not to toot windows horn, but onenote is genius. That is bar none one of the best note taking programs out there. With acrobat pro, the combinations are endless. I can totally say that.
If form factor is an issue, ipad is definitely smaller than any tablet I am referring to, but not nearly as robust. The dell xt2 is about 2.5 lbs, with the hp 2740p about 3 pounds. If it is just for notes, I would go for the xt2 and you can catch one on ebay for around the same price as an ipad.

Apple vs. Lenovo

Might as well get this thread ready, a suit is bound to happen...lol
Check out the image of the new Idea Pad. Looks exactly like a MacBook.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/13/circuit-city-starts-shipping-lenovo-ideapad-u400-reminds-you-it/

man... horrible choice of names
"IdeaPad" lenovo have also an android tablet also called IdeaPad.... talk about confusing

I have an ePad =D

(Bad)IdeaPad
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AllGamer said:
man... horrible choice of names
"IdeaPad" lenovo have also an android tablet also called IdeaPad.... talk about confusing
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Actually idea pad had been used in their laptop branding for sure. My brother bought one a few years back for college.
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Seriously. Designers need to get off apples ass, and the managers selecting and approving these apple style designs need to be fired. Not only does it provide free advertising for apple But it also makes the brand producing it more obscure. Seriously if you are a product designer, get some damn imagination. If you are responsible for approving these designs, slap yourselves. Hard. And then go find a job you are actually good at. IBM has sunk sooooo low.

Wow, WTF IBM? What are you doing? Thats going a bit far, don't you think...
Lenovo should just stick to what their good at, what people know them for and what people buy them for... Kinda squared, kinda chunky, industrial looking BLACK laptops of EXTREMELY GOOD quality and great after sales support. Looks like a tank, heavy like a tank and can take a beating like a tank. C'mon, don't Fcuk over you core audience here IB...umm, Lenovo...

Hi it is about your question my vote is apple for my apple man steve jobs

hungry81 said:
IBM has sunk sooooo low.
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Wow, WTF IBM? What are you doing? Thats going a bit far, don't you think...C'mon, don't Fcuk over you core audience here IB...umm, Lenovo...
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wait, ummm... what does IBM have to do with this?

jaysus145 said:
wait, ummm... what does IBM have to do with this?
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Lenovo acquired IBM's Personal Computing Division in 2005.

Lenovo still produces the black chunky lappys, its the THinkPad line, IdePad is just the retarted inbred child Lenovo had with itself.

TravisBean said:
Lenovo acquired IBM's Personal Computing Division in 2005.
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right, exactley.

Unless you need one strictly for business purposes, I don't recommend Thinkpads.
They are really designed from the ground-up (both hardware and software) for the workplace. I have both an expensive T61 and a less expensive HP entertainment laptop, and wish I had never purchased the Lenovo.