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[Request] Undetecatable Call Blocking

I have been looking for this since I first started using Windows Mobile.
Unfortunately, most of the softwares out there (because they are not built into the ROM) can not reject calls without the other side knowing. I have tried every software out there, all of them are the same, the caller will hear a ring, or part of a ring, then they will get a busy signal (rejected).
I can't believe this is hard to create, I use to have it 12 years ago in my BASIC alcatel phone. When a black listed caller dials, they get nothing .. or get an out of coverage message from the operator. I believe the way it worked, is that the phone detects the caller number, BEFORE responding that it has acknowledged the call and is ringing.
I guess that is why I am saying that it is built in to the ROM as a driver or something, and not just a software.
Any Ideas, thoughts, where I can find this, anyone WILLING to make it ?

I know there are some recent roms being created that has the call blocking feature built in. i'm using one those roms, which is indicated in my signature. when u mentioned that you've tried them (call blocking applications) all, were they free and/or commercial apps, or apps created in the development/hacking section? Collectively speaking, there's alot of those types of applications floating out there, but maybe you've already tried those.

pheroah said:
I have been looking for this since I first started using Windows Mobile.
Unfortunately, most of the softwares out there (because they are not built into the ROM) can not reject calls without the other side knowing. I have tried every software out there, all of them are the same, the caller will hear a ring, or part of a ring, then they will get a busy signal (rejected).
I can't believe this is hard to create, I use to have it 12 years ago in my BASIC alcatel phone. When a black listed caller dials, they get nothing .. or get an out of coverage message from the operator. I believe the way it worked, is that the phone detects the caller number, BEFORE responding that it has acknowledged the call and is ringing.
I guess that is why I am saying that it is built in to the ROM as a driver or something, and not just a software.
Any Ideas, thoughts, where I can find this, anyone WILLING to make it ?
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1st off, change your number
if that doesn't suite your needs make a fake dial tone which states your number is not in service as your voicemail while using call firewall. after a few weeks the person will give up calling you. Callers will receive one full ring and it will go to your new fake voicemail after blocking them, which they will perceive as your phone being turned off or changed your number.
common sense now pay me.

hahahah nice one .. except the keyword here is UNDETECTABLE ... if they know i changed my number or i am blocking them, they will find me and ask for the NEW number ....
As I said before, the only device I saw that feature on, was the really old alcatel models; which didn't give you a ring, didn't give you a busy tone, probably just ignored the request coming in from the telco when it is one of the black listed numbers.
Nice try, but I would pay you, if you could do the same on windows mobile. By the way I was testing an alpha versio of the cruise before it was launched, and it actually (accidently) opened the speaker, before you actually picked up the phone call, so the other side could hear you, before you even answer.
Thus, I am sure these things are possible, if there is someone who has the knowledge, and power to play with the operator

I haven't tried anything comercial, didn't find what i was looking for. If you know of any comercial software or freeware that does what i am stating. i.e. doesn't ring before it blocks the call. That would be great

I have something called MAGICALL, and it works great. You can set it to pick up then hang up, however the best part is that the call doesnt "come through" or let the phone ring. Unless you specify the software to give you a pop up message indicating it blocked a call. I love it since it doesnt even let the phone ring, its like if you never got called.

Same thing, I already tried MagiCall and it rings once to the caller, and then disconnects. Very obvious that you are avoiding the person.

I currently use a free voicemail feature called YouMail, which has call filtering and call blocking features. You can block calls (I believe) and also create a unique voicemail greetings for those you want/trying to avoid as well. www.youmail.com

I also use magicall for this. As an action I choose 'ignore' and then the caller just hears the phoen ringing, the connection is not broken. And you, well you hear and see nothing so you are not disturbed. Is that not what you want/?

Not exactly, ignore is a nice feature if you dont' want to be disturbed, but if someone is constantly bugging you; you would like them not to even reach your phone (so they don't come next day in the office, and say I left you three missed calls, and you didn't answer me).
It would be easier if they just got a this phone is out of coverage (or something similar) from the operator; then you can always blame the operator, that they couldn't reach you ... you get my drift ?

Yeah, I get your drift. But, if you're not reachable, then I guess it's the provider that sends back a message to the caller. I don't think your phone can send that message to the caller.
Moreover in most cases if you're not reachable then the caller also gets sent to your voicemail and he can also leave a message and come to you next day asking why you didn't react to his voice messages.
So the only option would be to send a message back saying that the number doesn't exist. But again, you would have to be able to spoof a provider based message for that.
I see these options when a caller really wants to get hold of you and you don't want to react:
* drop the call after 1 ring: caller notices he gets dropped, gets pissed an comes to see you
* send message back saying you're out of coverage: caller leaves message, which you ignore, caller gets pissed and comes to see you
* send a message back saying that the number doesn't exist: caller inquires whether you changed number, finds out you didn't, gets pissed and comes to see you
* silently ignore him: caller leaves a message, which you ignore, caller gets pissed and comes to see you.
Seems you're screwed either way
Why not simply answer the call and tell the caller to f*ck off. He's bound to get pissed also but at least he'll leave you alone and you'll feel relieved.

Well for one, I don't use voice mail ... secondly, because it is the provider that sends the message, it is authentic....
So if your mobile ... somehow ... ignores the call coming from the provider ... the provider sends a message saying that the mobile is out of coverage ...

pheroah said:
hahahah nice one .. except the keyword here is UNDETECTABLE ... if they know i changed my number or i am blocking them, they will find me and ask for the NEW number ....
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Hmm, you're asking for someone to develop a piece of software because you have no spine? I know of no Java/.Net/etc API that is better than the truth. Tell the person to leave you be. The currently available call firewalls work great for when you need to be in a "Call Free Environment."

It has nothing to do with my spine; and I currently have NO ONE harasing me; but I believe that the current Call firewalls have a disadvantage, and lack a feature.
I wish there was someone in XDA-Developers who is willing to spend some time to make some adjustments to one of the ROMs to have this built in. Especially as this feature is available in historic phones that have a lot less features than a WM.

Im also using Magicall for this & its working great, the other party doen't even hear a ring. It has many other features too.

Tracing a mobile number!

Im in need of some assistance here, i have a nuisance caller txtin me all the time with silly things to say. Im a Team Leader in a Security Company and its my job to keep people on and let people go. Theres been lots of different people who have left due to my decision for management. Now im getting nuisance txt messages from a number which i would like to trace.
Ive looked at different types of websites, followus, trackme and all these need confirmation before the tracking process can begin. Is there anything out there that can help me in my quest for justice? Is it possible for someone to create a little app for the kaiser to get me some details regarding this fool who has not stopped stressing me out? Im a single dad with 2 kids to look after and im not getting any sleep due to this.
Any help would be grateful!
Before you ask
- I cant just turn my phone on silent as i am on call 24/7 also my mum is critically ill in hospital and i cant afford to miss calls.
- I dont want to block the number as i would like to know who this person is.
- Ive called my service provider and they have a 'all or nothing' policy
- I dont want to change my number because that means this person wins and i lose my number which i have had for 10years

Not sure if this is of any help.
http://www.truecaller.com

sunsetdk said:
Not sure if this is of any help.
http://www.truecaller.com
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Im gonna give this a shot, but im really looking for something that will give the senders location away. Also im not really getting much calls, most of them are txted messages.
But thank you anyway for your suggestion

Dont know if this will help but get a blacklist program for winmo and add his name to it. I can remember the names of some but there are a lot that work well, you add the phone number, and nothing more from this person.

with held ID blocking

Hey, so i keep getting annoying with held calls, and i never pick those up, so i'm wondering if there's a program as to which i could install to either stop those from happening, or make it so it unblocks the unknown number, i live in Canada, otherwise i would use trapcall.com and yea...also i have a Windows mobile 6.5, so any links would be great, or recommendations...thanks

I don't know if you realize this, but some official organizations, like the POLICE block callerid. You know, things you might actually WANT to answer -- for events like a family member was attacked and is in the hospital and you are their emergency contact.

i deal with the police on a daily basis and NEVER have the blocked their number.Usally it just registers as the non emergency number for the local area...
sounds to be more like tele marekters or bill collecters

bladepbc said:
i deal with the police on a daily basis and NEVER have the blocked their number.Usally it just registers as the non emergency number for the local area...
sounds to be more like tele marekters or bill collecters
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No, the police ACTUALLY block their callid. Shows up as "unknown number".
Yes, I *have* actually been called by the police (it was a call back after I reported that my car was broken into a few months ago). I can assure you that police in various places *DO* block callerid.
I will be happy to accept that possibly not all police do this, but how do you know WHICH police will need to call you? Or if it is the police and not just some friend who is stuck somewhere without money and needs your help. Its not necessarily your local police -- it could be from ANY jurisdiction. Someone you know got run over by a car while on vacation to... TORONTO and your phone number is in their phone or wallet or something.
TORONTO police block callerid.
The REASON why a lot of police in places block callerid is because a lot of the time when people KNOW that it is the police calling, they won't answer (they're obviously dumbdumbs, of course, but the police very often need to call these types anyways).
There are TONS of reasons why you don't want to block calls with no id. The use of callerid is not in blocking unknowns, it is in blocking KNOWNs. If someone you really don't want to talk to is calling you, then you don't answer.

lbcoder said:
No, the police ACTUALLY block their callid. Shows up as "unknown number".
Yes, I *have* actually been called by the police (it was a call back after I reported that my car was broken into a few months ago). I can assure you that police in various places *DO* block callerid.
I will be happy to accept that possibly not all police do this, but how do you know WHICH police will need to call you? Or if it is the police and not just some friend who is stuck somewhere without money and needs your help. Its not necessarily your local police -- it could be from ANY jurisdiction. Someone you know got run over by a car while on vacation to... TORONTO and your phone number is in their phone or wallet or something.
TORONTO police block callerid.
The REASON why a lot of police in places block callerid is because a lot of the time when people KNOW that it is the police calling, they won't answer (they're obviously dumbdumbs, of course, but the police very often need to call these types anyways).
There are TONS of reasons why you don't want to block calls with no id. The use of callerid is not in blocking unknowns, it is in blocking KNOWNs. If someone you really don't want to talk to is calling you, then you don't answer.
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yea no, i've volunteered with the police here, and they will not block there calls, as they know many people will not answer, and they also leave msg's stating there business, and if it's an emergency, they call twice and a reinsurance thing...but i hate blocked calls...anyone have any programs?

Although alot of what we do on here is illegal, unlocking the callerID to display a restricted number is a serious criminal offence. Carries a higher penalty than any copyright infringments. I would be very careful on this topic.

@incredulous:
That is NOT AT ALL what we're talking about.
@vinneme:
You are trying to convince someone who has physically seen empirical evidence. Therefore what you are saying is entirely irrelevant and TOTALLY INCORRECT.

anyone know any programs to stop blocked calls though? i'm to cheap to pay my mobile provider to do it for me...

hope this helps
vinneme said:
anyone know any programs to stop blocked calls though? i'm to cheap to pay my mobile provider to do it for me...
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i havent tried this personally cause the blocked/unknown calls have stopped before i could, but maybe you wanna try this
mobilerumor.blogspot.com/2009/10/download-gblocker-for-android.html

Text's going to wrong person?

i just installed this Rom on my Nexus:
FRF83-update-nexusone-rooted-signed.zip
i wiped everything before installing and everything is running smooth.
i love the Rom, but i started noticing that ppl kept texting me back ? marks
or saying what was i talking about. i guess texts are scrambling and sending to diff ppl, and im receiving text's under ppl that didnt originally send the text if that makes any sence.
is any one else experiencing this? i remember reading an article about it i think on engadget or gizmodo. but im wondering if its a ROM or Google thing.
in all fairness i did use the search button, no flaming or being rude or else u get a stick trown at you

this has been reported long time ago on 2.1 when the nexus first came out. then other phones reported it like the droid. google never figured out what exactly caused it, it was baffling. i've always used handcent insstead just because of this "possible" glitch. i could get in a lot of trouble if i sent a text to the wrong person.

Weird this is the 1st time its happend to me or any one telling me about it. i rebooted hopefully it wont happen, cause i can also get in trouble sending wrong texts to the wrong person. The GF was already asking ?'s because the text she got wasnt related to anything we talked where texting about.

Android Phones Play “Chat-Roulette” With Your Text Messages
I have always been a big fan of Google Android phones. Sure the user interface may not be as polished as the iPhone. I admit the Exchange support might not be as tightly integrated as it is on the Blackberry. But, I’m a geek and I’m willing to put up with some annoyances as a trade-off for speed and flexibility and customization. And I’m not alone. Market researchers Canalys and NPD Group both recently published reports stating Android was running on > 40% of all smart phones in the United States. It would seem Android is destined for dominance.
Except somewhere along the way, Google seems to have forgotten first and foremost Android phones need to be phones. And that is why I’m seriously considering making the move to Blackberry or Windows Phone 7. For the last six months now I’ve been dealing with a huge flaw that makes my phone unusable for SMS texting. From what I’ve been able to tell using analytics provided by Google’s developer site, as many as 77% of Android phone users are at risk of having their text messages sent to a random contact.
That sounds unlikely right? I mean you pay upwards of $200 for a smart phone, and next to making phone calls, sending SMS text messages is probably the most used feature of the phone. But it’s true, and if you don’t believe me just type “android SMS wrong contact” into Google’s search engine and see how many hits you get. It’s astounding. It’s happening. And Google seems to be ignoring it altogether.
The first time I responded to a text message from recipient A, and it went to recipient B, I just wrote it off to user error. I was in a hurry. I fat fingered it. Who knows, right? In time though I’ve begun to qualify and quantify this serious bug and disaster waiting to happen. The worst part is you don’t even know your text message went to the wrong person until you get a call or new message from someone in your contact list asking “what was that last message all about?”
On the sender’s phone, the text message actually shows as sent to the correct recipient, yet I’ve been able to get all three parties with their phones to sit down in one room and verify that in fact the intended recipient did not receive my text, and a random contact did. I will put up with a lot of minor issues for a cool phone, but having my privacy threatened is not one of them.
What irks me the most is that owners of these phones, me included, have no recourse. The bug is part of the core operating system, and has been since Android 2.1, (though it seems worse with 2.2). Phone model doesn’t matter. Using a third-party SMS application won’t help. Contact your phone carrier and you will be told to do a factory reset then call the phone manufacturer. Contact the manufacturer and you will be told to do a factory reset then get in touch with your carrier. This is a flaw with Google’s code so how is it they managed to slip out of the support loop altogether?
Ah, I think now we have reached the heart of the problem haven’t we? By making it an open source solution, Google isn’t really accountable. Or are they? I guess that depends on you and me. Google has a vested interest in fixing any flaws that are impacting their continued effort for world smart phone dominance. If those of us who have made this platform so successful for them draw a line in the sand perhaps someone at Google will take notice.
The issue at hand has been logged in the Google forums for some time now. Sadly, it’s rated as only having a priority of “medium” and I’ve yet to see anyone from Google comment on the current state. I would urge any of you who have Android phones to log into the Google forum and star the issue. You can find the link in the code google forums. In the mean time, I’m going to continue evaluating some of the new Windows phone offerings. Just in case Google decides new UI bounce effects on widgets are more important than where my SMS text messages end up.

I've never had a text message go astray, personally.

I just had this about two or three times.
The chosen recipient didn't got my text message. But to be honest, noone contacted me, that he got my message, and the reciplient has a very bad mobile network coverage. So hopefully noone is laughing his ass off about my stupid messages

[Q] How Is This Possible

How is this possible ?? My phone is haunted.
A few hours ago I got a phone call and the woman said she was returning my call. I didn't call anyone and so I said, "You must have dialed the wrong number from your caller ID." She repeated the number on her caller ID and even the name. She was correct but I didn't call anyone. I thought maybe I pocket dialed a number. She hung up, I hung up and then ...
About 50 calls follow. Each person different, from all over the country. My number and name on their caller ID. The message was something like "how to escape credit card debt." I am thinking that some how someones auto dialer is similar to mine but --- How does it use may name ?? Not just my number on the caller ID but also my name .. AND .. My callerID name is "Whatever."
Any ideas ?? Tmobile couldn't give me an answer. I had to change my number. GREAT .. Now all my contacts need to be notified. Need new business cards, can't leave a forwarding number because the calls will start again ..
Diane

Do You Have a PS3 ?

I have the Samsung Tab but this was actually happening with my iphone. Did I mention that when the people answered the recording was telling them "do you want to eliminate credit card debt."

Your iphone you say? Sounds like the apple walled garden has been breached.
Or just as likely tmo
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I was going to be a little pushy with T-Mobile. Told them I wanted an answer as to how this happened. Tech tried to tell me it was something that I downloaded. I told them #1 It's an iphone. Everything has to be approved by Apple and #2 I didn't download ANYTHING .. I use it as a phone only. I think her head was going to explode because she just kept repeating like a robot, I must have downloaded something and I should do a hard reset on my phone.

as I see it, the most logical answer would be that some company...those telemarketers or whoever, somehow managed to get a hold of your information AND is spoofing their caller ID with yours. The question is, how did they get your information? also, I think the only way to figure out who would possibly be doing that would have been to somehow get the authorities involved because they have the power to view detailed call information including the origin of a call....
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I changed my phone number because every few seconds I was getting a call from someone saying "you just called me. you let the phone ring twice and hung up. why." I figured that might go on forever so I changed the number. What authorities ??

Like your local police/FBI. It sounds crazy, but that could be violating your rights... And whoever is doing it is subject to legal action and stuff
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Did u look in the call log for tmous to see if those calls were logging?
It sounds like a scam of some sort, i get emails with my personal address as the sender. Damn hard to block yourself from your own emails, they originate from Russia.
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You my friend are a victim of identity theft. I suggest you get an affidavit before you end up arrested for wrong doing by whoever is using your identity.

So far what I have found out is that the phone was sending text messages. They went to mobile and land-line phones. I have the phone number now of who was making these calls, now I actually have something to report. I am in Orlando and the spammer is also in Orlando. I tried a reverse look up but haven't found one that will give me the name of the spammer. I just know that the number belongs to a mobile phone.

Time to file a report then!
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