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hi really want the new droid 4 coming out but im going to uk in a couple of weeks and just want to know if it will be realeased in the UK or Australia and will the U S version work in Australia
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will motorola droid 4 work in uk or aus?
will motorola droid 4 also work in hk??
tangbin said:
I think the title sure is..
will motorola droid 4 work in uk or aus?
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Is that better or is there a problem
GSMArena have it listed as supporting 900/2100MHz UMTS 3G. That means Optus/Voafone/Virgin in Australia, all UK networks, and any UMTS provider in Hong Kong except NTT DoCoMo.
In my experience, GSMArena usually f*ck up their frequency listings a lot.
It would be a huge departure for Verizon to make their new world phones 900/2100MHz when ALL the other world phones they've released are 850/1900/2100. Plus it would make the majority of their roaming agreements with partners useless.
I think it's pretty safe to say it will be at least 850/1900, perhaps 850/1900/2100. That means if your network uses 900MHz you're out of luck.
EDIT: Old thread, sorry. Have no idea why this one popped up!
plktom123 said:
will motorola droid 4 also work in hk??
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you are from hk?? me too.
Droid 4 can be working in hk because it is a cdma/gsm device, BUT verizon has locked down the gsm.
so basically, it wont work
DROID 4 is not a GLOBAL phone. It will only work on Verizon network.
ifixit's teardown has a chip identification:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Droid-4-Teardown/7759/2
Has a Qualcomm MDM6600 chip:
from wikipedia:
MDM6600™:
Multi-mode modem
HSPA+ with data rates of up to 14.4 Mbit/s
CDMA2000® 1xEV-DO Rev. A/Rev. B support
GPS functionality, including support for Assisted GPS
I'm out of my element here, but that suggests global capability....as to whether it can actually be used, I haven't a clue.
Found some info here http://www.gobi.com/resources#Documentation
Specifically the Gobi3000 product sheet http://www.gobi.com/sites/default/files/Gobi3000r4.pdf
It seems like the chipset can support everything, but CDMA and GSM support are in two separate firmware images. Also even if the chipset has support, there's no guarantee that the requisite antennas and such are connected. But I've already read a few places that Motorola/Verizon plans to enable global roaming with a firmware update in the future, so I'd guess the hardware support is already in place.
The doc doesn't list support for 1700MHz AWS in the frequency list, but it does say "Prepared for UMTS-AWS" which implies that it could be supported with additional tweaks. So probably no US T-Mobile 3G support out of the box, dunno.
Hi,
i'm from italy, anyone know if motorola & verizon release Droid 4 for Europe ( milestone 4 ) with all gsm band? same the droid 1 and 2 released for EU with name milestone 1 and 2.
i read some rumors about a possible declaration of milestone 4 on Mobile World Congress 2012.
thnx
crazyman321 said:
hi really want the new droid 4 coming out but im going to uk in a couple of weeks and just want to know if it will be realeased in the UK or Australia and will the U S version work in Australia
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I'm not sure, but the Droid 4 does use a GSM Sim, and that would make me think that you could pic up a Sim in country and put it in your phone. I mean if you don't have to unlock your phone first.
I'm interested in this one too!
My carrier uses 900 and 2100mhz for hsdpa...
Apparently, the Droid 4 will have GSM roaming eventually.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/12/2...-and-lg-spectrum-will-have-global-gsm-roaming
There are a lot of possible show stoppers.
First, I don't think that this was an official VZW statement.
And, even if they will make GSM/HSPA work, it's unclear if and how SIM unlocking will work.
Let's see how it will work out with the xyboard tablets ...
The problem is D4 has dedicated LTE radio now which requires SIM card. My guess ia the Verizon's SIM is only compatible with their own network and can't do roaming just yet. Issue could not be technical at all. To be safe they decided to lock down GSM/HSPA radio for now. Once they figure out how their SIM cards can roam properly on other providers, they will likely push OTA update to enable the HSPA settings.
Verizon doesn't care if we want to use another sim card. Will likely make everything possible to prevent us from doing so. They however want their clients to pay for roaming badly. I am sure the matter will be resolved as this is a big revenue point for them.
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Yeah, LTE uses GSM... there is no CDMA LTE connection which is why all the 4g phones have GSM frequency capability, but Verizon has them on a tight lock. It is possible for them to allow you to use in certain GSM areas but I don't think they would unlock it to be used with any other service.
thomaslau said:
Droid 4 can be working in hk because it is a cdma/gsm device, BUT verizon has locked down the gsm.
so basically, it wont work
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The challenge isn't the hardware, but rather that the Droid 4 is a Verizon exclusive currently.
Thomas is correct; the radios have more flexibility than Verizon has allowed it. They have announced that sometime this year they will enable global roaming for the phone via their networks, which to me says firmware push.
I am hopeful that Moto will eventually release a GSM-friendly unlocked version, a la the Milestone vs the original Droid.
HELLO people
Well, here at Mexico we have Iusacell a cdma/lte carrier. I was aking them if they support a double subscription mode like verizone does. Because my phone can skip between both signals (gsm and cdma).
They tell me that what thet can do is to give me sim card, and they enter sim card serial and phone serial into system, and that way couldwork. They claim they have a sony phone that does that jump (gsm-cdma-gsm) and it is the way they configure it.
Will this work ok D3 and D4?
dlucio said:
HELLO people
Well, here at Mexico we have Iusacell a cdma/lte carrier. I was aking them if they support a double subscription mode like verizone does. Because my phone can skip between both signals (gsm and cdma).
They tell me that what thet can do is to give me sim card, and they enter sim card serial and phone serial into system, and that way couldwork. They claim they have a sony phone that does that jump (gsm-cdma-gsm) and it is the way they configure it.
Will this work ok D3 and D4?
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As far as I know, only the USA is using LTE on the 800mhz band block. This is the compatible frequencies of the droid 4 for LTE. The GSM should work though, I'm not sure what frequencies you guys use in mexico though.
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danifunker said:
As far as I know, only the USA is using LTE on the 800mhz band block. This is the compatible frequencies of the droid 4 for LTE. The GSM should work though, I'm not sure what frequencies you guys use in mexico though.
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Don't forget that the Droid 4 also has 3G CDMA which might be compatible with frequencies in Mexico, not just LTE.
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I know Droid4 is 3G CDMA and 3g GSM compatible. But here Iusacell claims to use LTE.
However, that is not my question. My question is if the schema that iusacell offers me to register bot SIM and Phone number will let Droid4 jump between CDMA/GSM?
I have an Ekit SIM card that we have used successfully for international calling when we're traveling (we're based in the US). I have used it in my old HTC Touch Pro 2 (one of Verizon's 'world phones') - put in the card, then the pin, and it connects to available GSM signals. Testing it out at my home in NC, it quickly connects to TMobile.
I have SIM unlocked my wife's Motorola Droid 3, another Verizon 'world phone' - I install the SIM, boot it up, type in the PIN which is accepted, but when it tries to connect, I get the following:
Network Error
No GSM/UMTS networks were found. Would you like to switch to the Global mode?
Is there something different about the signal bands between these 2 phones, such that my Touch Pro 2 has no problem connecting to TMobile GSM here in the US, while the Droid 3 won't? Now that I write this, I do kind of remember reading somewhere that the Droid 3 is not compatible with US GSM bands, so that might explain it.
The bigger question is will it still work outside the US? Specifically, we're going to Tanzania, by way of Amsterdam, and would like to have the option of calling home, or receiving calls from home, with my wife's Droid 3 (I retired my Touch Pro 2, and am now using the Samsung Galaxy Nexus).
We want to travel as light as possible, so would prefer not to bring an extra phone if the Droid 3 will in fact work with this SIM card when overseas.
Thanks!
Being that you have a U.S. branded DROID 3, you need to do some modifications to get it to work on GSM carriers.
Everything you need is here
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KayxGee1 said:
Being that you have a U.S. branded DROID 3, you need to do some modifications to get it to work on GSM carriers.
Everything you need is here
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Thanks for the reply - interesting link!
In my case, I don't need it work on GSM carriers in the U.S. - I just want to be confident it will work when I'm overseas.
I did a little more checking, and confirmed that (without the steps in your link) the Droid 3 would not work with US GSM carriers, so I'm reasonably confident I'll be okay when I get overseas.
Thanks again.
DLCPhoto said:
Thanks for the reply - interesting link!
In my case, I don't need it work on GSM carriers in the U.S. - I just want to be confident it will work when I'm overseas.
I did a little more checking, and confirmed that (without the steps in your link) the Droid 3 would not work with US GSM carriers, so I'm reasonably confident I'll be okay when I get overseas.
Thanks again.
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You just need the unlock code, either by contacting Verizon with an account in good standing (or a friend with one) or purchasing one by a well known code dealer (I've heard several people recommend unlock4moto). Although you did mention you already unlocked it. Just putting that there for drifters reading the thread.
After unlock, the D3 should work flawless with foreign GSM carriers, you just need to make sure to input the APNs for data if they are not provided already on the SIM. Otherwise, the phone will not connect to US GSM networks (such as T-Mobile, which is 2g only, D3 lacks the 1700MHz band for Tmo 3g), it would require a flash of the XT883 radio + build.prop... Which is actually quite quick, painless, and simple once you do it a couple times. I keep a copy of both build.props in my /system folder.
For informational purposes; the D3 supports these bands to compare to carriers;
UMTS on 850Mhz, 1900Mhz, and 2100Mhz. (Supports HSPA+ 14.4Mbps)
GSM/EDGE on 850Mhz, 900Mhz, 1800Mhz, and 1900MHz.
CDMA on 800Mhz and 1900Mhz
Stock radio gets you; Verizon in the US, unlocked for any foreign GSM network
XT883 radio gets you; No CDMA (Might work with RUIM card, SIM equiv for foreign CDMA networks/4g LTE networks) GSM anywhere, including the US.
Skreelink said:
You just need the unlock code, either by contacting Verizon with an account in good standing (or a friend with one) or purchasing one by a well known code dealer (I've heard several people recommend unlock4moto). Although you did mention you already unlocked it. Just putting that there for drifters reading the thread.
After unlock, the D3 should work flawless with foreign GSM carriers, you just need to make sure to input the APNs for data if they are not provided already on the SIM. Otherwise, the phone will not connect to US GSM networks (such as T-Mobile, which is 2g only, D3 lacks the 1700MHz band for Tmo 3g), it would require a flash of the XT883 radio + build.prop... Which is actually quite quick, painless, and simple once you do it a couple times. I keep a copy of both build.props in my /system folder.
For informational purposes; the D3 supports these bands to compare to carriers;
UMTS on 850Mhz, 1900Mhz, and 2100Mhz. (Supports HSPA+ 14.4Mbps)
GSM/EDGE on 850Mhz, 900Mhz, 1800Mhz, and 1900MHz.
CDMA on 800Mhz and 1900Mhz
Stock radio gets you; Verizon in the US, unlocked for any foreign GSM network
XT883 radio gets you; No CDMA (Might work with RUIM card, SIM equiv for foreign CDMA networks/4g LTE networks) GSM anywhere, including the US.
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Yes, I've already unlocked the SIM - got that through Verizon with no difficulty. Appreciate the other details!
Based on what I've read, and the posts here, I'll be happy to leave my Touch Pro 2 home, and the D3 should do what I need to on my trip. I actually don't need/want data on my phone out there - just wanted another option to call home when WiFi isn't available (I'll be using Skype when it is).
Thanks for the replies - told me what I needed to know!
DLCPhoto said:
Yes, I've already unlocked the SIM - got that through Verizon with no difficulty. Appreciate the other details!
Based on what I've read, and the posts here, I'll be happy to leave my Touch Pro 2 home, and the D3 should do what I need to on my trip. I actually don't need/want data on my phone out there - just wanted another option to call home when WiFi isn't available (I'll be using Skype when it is).
Thanks for the replies - told me what I needed to know!
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I hope you enjoy your romp around the globe!
I saw motorola website said that Droid Turbo is lte cat 4, bands 2,3,4,7,17.
In Hong Hong, which is useing lte cat 4, bands 3,7, if i use a unlock Droid Turbo, can it use 4G in Hong Kong?
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am looking for the answer too.. did you ever find out?
Theoretically, it should work. All Verizon phones come unlocked, and the turbo has the correct bands, so there's no reason why it shouldn't work. But there's really only one way to find out. Just make sure it's definitely bands 3 and 7 in your area.
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Theoretically, it should work. All Verizon phones come unlocked, and the turbo has the correct bands, so there's no reason why it shouldn't work. But there's really only one way to find out. Just make sure it's definitely bands 3 and 7 in your area.
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you're right.. the specs say yes too so i guess I'll just have to give it a go and grab one off ebay
yellowchilli said:
you're right.. the specs say yes too so i guess I'll just have to give it a go and grab one off ebay
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Before you do, I'd use LTE discovery on your current phone to make sure you're using the right bands. For example on my phone you can see I'm using LTE band 13.
v useful app there. its not reading my band at the moment so I'll try again when im out and about tomorrow.. appreciate the help mate
I have seen people have success in Italy, Ireland, Kuwait. But I cant connect here in Norway despite having matching bands. Its better to hold off. Im having a big fight with Moto Tech Support right now.
o well too late for me.. mine's already on its way. I guess we'll find out if this works in HK or not
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I saw motorola website said that Droid Turbo is lte cat 4, bands 2,3,4,7,17.
In Hong Hong, which is useing lte cat 4, bands 3,7, if i use a unlock Droid Turbo, can it use 4G in Hong Kong?
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Probably doesn't make any difference to you, but you are quoting the "official" Moto Maxx (XT1225) bands, not the "official" Droid Turbo (XT1254) bands. They are both Motorola "Quark" phones -- but one is branded for U.S. Verizon and the other is being marketed to Latin America countries. Besides the Droid Turbo having CDMA (for Verizon), they also have slightly different LTE bands.
On the end of your string you have LTE band 17. That's Moto Maxx-- not Droid Turbo.
The Droid Turbo has LTE band 13 instead. Droid Turbo has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13.
And I put "official" in quotes, because QXDM software shows Moto Maxx also has LTE band 5, just as when it went through the U.S.A. FCC certification testing. Motorola apparently does not list that band in the "official" specs, as they decided to market the Moto Maxx to Latin America countries where LTE band 5 is not used. But it's still there.
For your purposes (Hong Kong), since all you need are LTE bands 3, 7 -- ostensibly either model should work.
However, the Moto Maxx has unlockable boot loader, we have root, and TWRP. If you are on XDA, those things are important, yes ? Whereas the Droid Turbo is very locked down. With root, I'm able to install and run Xposed/Gravity Box which gives me all the features of a custom ROM.
appreciate the info ChazzMatt. Wish I knew this before I paid up lol
In any case Im still relieved that LTE works just fine in HK.
Ekkoria said:
Theoretically, it should work. All Verizon phones come unlocked, and the turbo has the correct bands, so there's no reason why it shouldn't work. But there's really only one way to find out. Just make sure it's definitely bands 3 and 7 in your area.
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Probably doesn't make any difference to you, but you are quoting the "official" Moto Maxx (XT1225) bands, not the "official" Droid Turbo (XT1254) bands.
On the end of your string you have LTE band 17. That's Moto Maxx-- not Droid Turbo.
The Droid Turbo has LTE band 13 instead. Droid Turbo has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13.
And I put "official" in quotes, because QXDM software shows Moto Maxx also has LTE band 5, just as when it went through the U.S.A. FCC certification testing. But Motorola does not list that band in the "official" specs, as they decided to market the Moto Maxx to Latin America countries where LTE band 5 is not used. But it's still there.
For your purposes (Hong Kong), since all you need are LTE bands 3, 7 -- ostensibly either model should work.
However, the Moto Maxx has unlockable boot loader, we have root, and TWRP. If you are on XDA, those things are important, yes ? Whereas the Droid Turbo is very locked down. With root, I'm able to install and run Xposed/Gravity Box which gives me all the features of a custom ROM.
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droid turbo in hong kong
yellowchilli said:
appreciate the info ChazzMatt. Wish I knew this before I paid up lol
In any case Im still relieved that LTE works just fine in HK.
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Which carrier did you use in hong Kong? Also did you have to change any settings on the phone to make it work?
Smartone, 4g on 1800mhz. works perfectly. it did all the apn settings on its own.
Hi at all. I'm looking for buy a droid turbo on eBay but i see that there is 3 principal version: verizon, gsm unloked and factory unloked. I'm from italy and i don't understand if the "verizon" version work with all gsm worldwide carriers or only with verizon sim.
Please refer to this thread, I asked for advices and live in France. You should be fine except for 4G LTE bands. Depending on your carrier, the XT1254/XT1250 (Verizon Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx) should have less LTE signal than the XT1225 (Moto Maxx international version), if any.
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Please refer to this thread, I asked for advices and live in France. You should be fine except for 4G LTE bands. Depending on your carrier, the XT1254/XT1250 (Verizon Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx) should have less LTE signal than the XT1225 (Moto Maxx international version), if any.
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Then you confirm that all droid turbo verizon selled on eBay are sim free (i can put on it a italian or europea sim carier)? The lte band in theory work with my gsm carier.
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Please refer to this thread, I asked for advices and live in France. You should be fine except for 4G LTE bands. Depending on your carrier, the XT1254/XT1250 (Verizon Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx) should have less LTE signal than the XT1225 (Moto Maxx international version), if any.
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Then you confirm that all droid turbo verizon selled on eBay are sim free (i can put on it a italian or europea sim carier)? The lte band in theory work with my gsm carier.
yeap they all work fine. I got a limited edition one from verizon and it works just fine in Greece. Like mentioned earlier though you will have reduced signal reception for lte
Yes, the U.S. FCC agency makes Verizon sell all LTE phones now unlocked to work with any carrier, as long as the LTE bands are compatible.
This was part of the agreement for Verizon to get more LTE spectrum from the government.
AT&T did not have to make this agreement, only Verizon.
The issue is for most people living in other countries (most, not all), they don't need CDMA but they do need HSPA and LTE. The XT1225 "international" Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo has more HSPA bands and more LTE bands AND has easily unlockable bootloader. But a lot of people only know about one Quark -- the Droid Turbo, when there are better versions out there for their purposes. The Verizon public relations machine LIED and made people think the Droid Turbo was "exclusive" WORLDWIDE, when it wasn't even exclusive in the U.S (Many regions CDMA/LTE carriers in the U.S. sold identical phone!)
So, people don't know about the U.S. Moto Maxx (XT1250) which is identical in every way to the Droid Turbo (same radio bands, same FCC ID) or they don't know about the XT1225 "international" Moto Maxx, which has more HSPA and LTE bands (but not CDMA bands).
Basically the Moto "Quark" is like a an LG G4. I'm using that premium LG phone as an example. An LG G4 has the the same hardware, no matter where sold, no matter what carrier -- but has different radio bands (and different model number) depending on the region/carrier. But it's STILL an LG G4 -- whether sold in Europe, India, South America, or by Verizon or AT&T in the U.S.
Basically that describes a Moto Quark. Verizon's Quark was called the Droid Turbo. That's all, it's still just a Quark. The only thing "exclusive" about it was the locked down bootloader. Motorola gave the same phone to other carriers, the same way LG have the G4 to other carriers besides Verizon. Other Quarks are called Moto Maxx or Moto Turbo, but you have to go by the MODEL NUMBER to make sure you have the right one, since there were two Moto Maxx models with different radio bands (XT1250, XT1225). Then in India, the XT1225 was re-named the Moto Turbo, since there was an Indian phone carrier named Max or Maxx, and Motorola didn't want people to think this phone was affiliated with that carrier. So, even the "Turbo" name was not exclusive in any way. You can't say "I have a Turbo!" There were TWO Quarks called "Turbo". You have to use model names, XT1250, XT1254, XT1225 to differentiate between the Quarks.
(Verizon owns the rights to "Droid" name in the mobile arena, licensed from LucasArts/Disney and can call ANY phone a Droid -- even crappy low end phones, if they wished. "Droid" does not mean anything, and is not limited to any manufacturer. So far, Verizon has only used it with Motorola phones, but Verizon controls the name, not any manufacturer. Verizon now has mid-tier phones with Droid name, so they are not even pretending Droid is a premium phone any more.)
By naming the same Quark phone by different model names caused a lot of confusion, but Verizon demanded that so they could PRETEND they had some exclusive phone. Same way the Droid Turbo 2 was the Moto X Force everywhere else. No exclusives -- just a different model name for Verizon for the same phone.
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See this post for more information about bands. Italy is like France -- you'll get LTE bands 3 and 7, but not LTE band 20. What HSPA bands do you need?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67657958&postcount=3