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[Q] Has anyone purchased Moto Maxx from Mexico and have it worked on Tmobile in US

I am interested in getting a Moto Maxx from Mexico but want to make sure that everything works perfect on Tmobile for the US. I had issues with Droid Maxx from verizon on Tmobile and dont want same issues. Has anyone actually done this and if so, whats the result?

Yes, many running this Moto Maxx phone on T-mobile. It has LTE bands 2, 4 which are T-mobile's main LTE bands. In some markets T-mobile is also now using LTE band 12, but you probably won't miss it.
Also has GSM and HSPA bands too, of course.
If you order from Mexico, that phone is already unlocked for all networks the hardware can handle. If you order from Puerto Rico, make sure it's SIM unlocked by the seller or that he gives you the code. In Puerto Rico, sold by Claro and comes SIM locked. I have both Puerto Rico and Mexican Moto Maxx phones. The Puerto Rico eBay seller already unlocked the phone before he sent it to me.

creamycaesar1 said:
I am interested in getting a Moto Maxx from Mexico but want to make sure that everything works perfect on Tmobile for the US. I had issues with Droid Maxx from verizon on Tmobile and dont want same issues. Has anyone actually done this and if so, whats the result?
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Works fine for me. Supports all of the bands (except LTE 12) out of the box. The only phones that currently support band 12 are the Note 4 and the note edge AFAIK. Some have enabled band 12 (which the snapdragon supports) but have not been able to get a signal (likely because there is no antenna that can pull it in). None of the issues that people have reported with other Droid phones (drops to H+ and won't reconnect to LTE etc. Call someone or they call you and it drops to H and then connects right back to LTE after.

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Works fine for me. Supports all of the bands (except LTE 12) out of the box. The only phones that currently support band 12 are the Note 4 and the note edge AFAIK. Some have enabled band 12 (which the snapdragon supports) but have not been able to get a signal (likely because there is no antenna that can pull it in). None of the issues that people have reported with other Droid phones (drops to H+ and won't reconnect to LTE etc. Call someone or they call you and it drops to H and then connects right back to LTE after.
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My Experience Exactly as well here in MN- almost always on LTE

That T-Mobile LTE-capable phone in MN is the one from Mexico, correct? Because the Puerto Rican dealer responded to my specific question and told me the "4G" on their model only uses HSPA+ in the U.S., not LTE.

GeodudeFFP said:
That T-Mobile LTE-capable phone in MN is the one from Mexico, correct? Because the Puerto Rican dealer responded to my specific question and told me the "4G" on their model only uses HSPA+ in the U.S., not LTE.
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Mexican Moto maxx and Puerto Rico Moto maxx are the same and they work perfectly with LTE At&t and t-mobile on the states.

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That T-Mobile LTE-capable phone in MN is the one from Mexico, correct? Because the Puerto Rican dealer responded to my specific question and told me the "4G" on their model only uses HSPA+ in the U.S., not LTE.
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I have both Puerto Rico and Mexico Moto Maxx phones. YES, I own two. They both have LTE.
The dealer that gave you that answer is ignorant of what he is actually selling. Even the Puerto Rico Motorola website lists the specs that show the LTE bands.
http://www.motorola.com.pr/consumer...oto-Maxx/moto-maxx-pr.html#moto-maxx-specs-pr
Note this is Motorola.com.PR (for Puerto Rico).
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Yes, I'm aware of the spec's, etc. But I've yet to hear confirmation from anyone that full-blown 4G LTE is currently fully functional with their T-Mobile-connected Moto Maxx in the U.S. (specifically, MN). Remember...regardless of the phone spec's, the provider can also block it (a guy at Best Buy told me LTE was blocked in this case due to Verizon exclusivity agreements).

GeodudeFFP said:
Yes, I'm aware of the spec's, etc. But I've yet to hear confirmation from anyone that full-blown 4G LTE is currently fully functional with their T-Mobile-connected Moto Maxx in the U.S. (specifically, MN). Remember...regardless of the phone spec's, the provider can also block it (a guy at Best Buy told me LTE was blocked in this case due to Verizon exclusivity agreements).
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Verizon cannot block either of my Moto Maxx phones on AT&T or T-mobile. Now you are talking gibberish.
Many, many T-mobile customers have said they are using the Moto Maxx on T-mobile LTE. For some reason you don't want to believe them.
I don't know what "MN" has to do with it. T-mobile's main LTE bands are LTE band 2 and LTE band 4. If T-mobile is using LTE bands 2 and 4 in your area, the Moto Maxx will connect to them. The Moto Maxx is unlocked and now you are listening to idiots at Best Buy? I own two, they own none. They know NOTHING about the Moto Maxx, OK?
Verizon has NOTHING to do with T-mobile's or AT&T's LTE bands and NOTHING to do with the Moto Maxx working on LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 (which the Moto Maxx does). Arghhh.
I have two Moto Maxx and am using one of them on AT&T right now, LTE bands 2 and 17. Verizon has nothing to do with my phone. OK? Verizon can't block it, they can't sneeze at it, they can't even see it.
Do you want to see my AT&T LTE speed tests?
Take my word for it, those aren't HSPA speeds. Something else gives it away -- the LTE indicator in the status bar.
Do you want to see me connected to AT&T LTE band 2?
There's no difference in me being connected to LTE band 2 on AT&T and you being connected to LTE band 2 on T-mobile in your area.
You can see how many different LTE cell towers I have connected to over the past few days...
Eight AT&T LTE band 2 cell towers and five AT&T LTE band 17 cell towers. (AT&T uses LTE band 2 and 17 in the metro Atlanta area. ) Across the nation AT&T uses LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17. So, if I travel elsewhere, the app log would show more LTE bands. But I've proven my point.
T-mobile uses LTE bands 2, 4, and now 12. You stick a T-mobile sim card in the Moto Maxx and you WILL connect to T-mobile's LTE network if there's a tower within range transmitting LTE band 2 or 4.
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And LAST but most important, this Moto Maxx phone has been certified by the FCC to operate in the U.S. and U.S. territories on OTHER providers (not Verizon). Motorola even promised the FCC this phone especially had LTE bands 2 and 4, even though the FCC found more bands. But especially LTE bands 2 and 4 HAVE TO WORK IN THE USA.
The Droid Turbo has a different FCC ID number. And the Moto Maxx does not have CDMA bands enabled so it's NOT for Verizon, but yet has been certified for usage in the USA and USA territories. I don't know how much more I have to say.
This is what the FCC actually found, during testing and certification.
But the point is, the Moto Maxx (XT1225) phone is approved for use in the USA. Verizon has nothing to do with this phone, and has no control over how this phone is used on non-Verizon networks (GMS/HSPA/LTE). I have no idea why you think they would.
SAME FCC ID. So, what Motorola told the FCC has to stay in place.

I just received my moto maxx yesterday and I can tell you I have 4G on T-Mobile. I live in las vegas and have speeds of 18 mbps. Those speeds are from inside my home where my signal is notoriously crappy. Some people have mentioned that they are unable to browse Internet while on the phone but I can do that just fine. Text, mms, call and internet all work as they should with zero complaints.

creamycaesar1 said:
I just received my moto maxx yesterday and I can tell you I have 4G on T-Mobile. I live in las vegas and have speeds of 18 mbps. Those speeds are from inside my home where my signal is notoriously crappy. Some people have mentioned that they are unable to browse Internet while on the phone but I can do that just fine. Text, mms, call and internet all work as they should with zero complaints.
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Tell him you have LTE and not "4G" and he'll be happy. LTE is the only real 4G anyway, but AT&T and T-mobile engaged in so much false advertising with HSPA being called "4G" that people are confused.
But apps like LTE Discovery show how you are connected and signal strength. Also Xposed/Gravity Box gives you the option to display "LTE" when you are connected to LTE network.
Of course over 50mbps download speed with 39ms ping time IS LTE. You don't need the status bar indicator to tell you that.

Actually I just downloaded lte discovery and it says I am on lte band 4 specifically. I hope this helps.

Thanks all. I knew I was on band 4 so I knew it *SHOULD* work, but creamyceasar1 gave me the *CONFIRMATION* that I was looking for...thanks! That's exactly what I needed. But again, thanks to all.
Now I just need to figure out if I want to spend >$500 on a new phone with 4.4 and without OIS for its camera, especially since phones with 5.0 and Snapdragon 810's are due within a month (despite the supposed "issues" of the 810...and yeah, I know the Maxx will get 5.0 soon, but its upgrade "life" will be shorter).

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creamycaesar1 said:
I am interested in getting a Moto Maxx from Mexico but want to make sure that everything works perfect on Tmobile for the US. I had issues with Droid Maxx from verizon on Tmobile and dont want same issues. Has anyone actually done this and if so, whats the result?
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yes.

So does the moto maxx not work on Verizon in the U.S.?

Broadley1 said:
So does the moto maxx not work on Verizon in the U.S.?
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The XT1250 does, not the XT1225. There's two Moto Maxx models, one sold in the U.S. on other CDMA/LTE carriers. One sold internationally with just GSM/HSPA/LTE.

ChazzMatt said:
The XT1250 does, not the XT1225. There's two Moto Maxx models, one sold in the U.S. on other CDMA/LTE carriers. One sold internationally with just GSM/HSPA/LTE.
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Is the 1250 rootable?

Broadley1 said:
Is the 1250 rootable?
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One owner says yes.
Because it has unlockable boot loader.

ChazzMatt said:
One owner says yes.
Because it has unlockable boot loader.
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Where could I purchase one??

Broadley1 said:
So does the moto maxx not work on Verizon in the U.S.?
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ChazzMatt said:
The XT1250 does, not the XT1225. There's two Moto Maxx models, one sold in the U.S. on other CDMA/LTE carriers. One sold internationally with just GSM/HSPA/LTE.
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Broadley1 said:
Is the 1250 rootable?
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ChazzMatt said:
One owner says yes.
Because it has unlockable boot loader.
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Broadley1 said:
Where could I purchase one?
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I listed several regional CDMA/LTE carriers in this thread who sell the XT1250 "Moto Maxx", which is identical to the XT1254 (Verizon Droid Turbo) except for carrier-specific software. Even has the exact same FCC ID. There may be others. I stopped at half a dozen.
See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58788122&postcount=177
and more carriers here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58865000&postcount=197
NOTE: Even though one carrier has a 64GB version listed, an XDA member contacted them and apparently all they are selling is the 32GB version. Again, the carriers in the two posts above are not complete. I used my knowledge of the cellphone industry to go through smaller CDMA/LTE carriers (actual facilities-based carriers, not MVNOs), went to their websites and looked at the devices they sold. I knew the XT1250 Moto Maxx (non-Verizon "Quark" for U.S. carriers) existed, and once I found a Wisconsin-based carrier, I knew there would be more. When I got to 5 or 6, I stopped.
More info:
zoaguy said:
I ran through the unlocking process and it appears the XT1250 is unlockable. I did not pull the trigger yet to get the code from Motorola, since accepting the agreement immediately binds me to the agreement, however, it does give me the "Request unlock code" button after entering my unlock data, so it appears to be legit.
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zoaguy said:
FWIW, I can tell you I did try a Verizon SIM in this phone (XT1250) with very minimal testing and it did appear to function just fine.
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Even more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58976758&postcount=36
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...xed-topics-t3032371/post58973737#post58973737
Both Moto Maxx models (XT1250, XT1225) and the "Droid Turbo" XT1254 (Verizon's name for it) are all Motorola "Quark" phones with identical hardware. The XT1250 and XT1254 are both U.S.-sold CDMA/GSM/HSPA/LTE model -- with the same FCC ID.
The XT1225 has no CDMA and slightly different LTE bands (with some overlap). It has a different FCC ID.
XT1225 and XT1254:
XT1250:

LTE frequencies?

I'm planning to buy a Droid Turbo to use it in Italy. My provider uses LTE frequencies 3,7 and 20. Is the Droid compatible or may I enable them? Thanks!

gpvecchi said:
I'm planning to buy a Droid Turbo to use it in Italy. My provider uses LTE frequencies 3,7 and 20. Is the Droid compatible or may I enable them? Thanks!
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http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=4620

gpvecchi said:
I'm planning to buy a Droid Turbo to use it in Italy. My provider uses LTE frequencies 3,7 and 20. Is the Droid compatible or may I enable them? Thanks!
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On the Droid Turbo XT1254 you will have 3 and 7. Not 20. IF it could be enabled you would need root to do so.
On the Moto Maxx which DOES have root, people have tried to enable LTE 20 but haven't been able to actually send/receive on that band.
Droid Turbo XT1254 has 2, 3, 4, 7, 13 as well as CDMA, GSM, HSPA bands. Has locked down bootloader and no verified root (yet).
Moto Maxx XT1225 has 2, 3, 4, 5*, 7, 17, as well GSM, HSPA bands. No CDMA on XT1225. Moto Maxx has bootloader than can be unlocked and verified root and custom recovery. (* Yes it has LTE band 5. Search in these threads, I've provided plenty of proof from the FCC to my own modem software scan. And Motorola even admits it on their India Moto Turbo specs page, which is the same phone as the Moto Maxx -- just re-named for legal reasons as there is a "Maxx" carrier in India.)
They are the same QUARK phones, with the same hardware. Motorola just locked down different modem capabilities, depending on where it's sold. So, if you are in Europe and not a Verizon subscriber and especially don't need CDMA, why do you want the Droid Turbo instead of the Moto Maxx?

ChazzMatt said:
On the Droid Turbo XT1254 you will have 3 and 7. Not 20. IF it could be enabled you would need root to do so.
On the Moto Maxx which DOES have root, people have tried to enable LTE 20 but haven't been able to actually send/receive on that band.
Droid Turbo XT1254 has 2, 3, 4, 7, 13 as well as CDMA, GSM, HSPA bands. Has locked down bootloader and no verified root (yet).
Moto Maxx XT1225 has 2, 3, 4, 5*, 7, 17, as well as CDMA, GSM, HSPA bands. Moto Maxx has bootloader than can be unlocked and verified root and custom recovery. (* Yes it has LTE band 5. Search in these threads, I've provided plenty of proof from the FCC to my own modem software scan. And Motorola even admits it on their India Moto Turbo specs page, which is the same phone as the Moto Maxx -- just re-named for legal reasons as there is a "Maxx" carrier in India.)
They are the same QUARK phones, with the same hardware. Motorola just locked down different modem capabilities, depending on where it's sold. So, if you are in Europe and not a Verizon subscriber and especially don't need CDMA, why do you want the Droid Turbo instead of the Moto Maxx?
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Very clear, thanks! Just the Moto Maxx is much more expensive, the best price I found is 700$+shipping and import taxes (around 25%); so not too much far from 1000$, that's too much...

gpvecchi said:
Very clear, thanks! Just the Moto Maxx is much more expensive, the best price I found is 700$+shipping and import taxes (around 25%); so not too much far from 1000$, that's too much...
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Guess because it only comes in 64GB?
Tried SWAPPA? There's new XT1225 on there for $630 today.

gpvecchi said:
Very clear, thanks! Just the Moto Maxx is much more expensive, the best price I found is 700$+shipping and import taxes (around 25%); so not too much far from 1000$, that's too much...
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I'm Italian, you can use LTE with 3 (FASTWEB, ecc..) ,Tim and Vodafone, but you only have one Frequency for Wind.
P. S. I own a Turbo, but I don't use LTE

[Q] Any success unlocking rooted Droid Turbo bands?

I am considering going through the root process so I can properly unlock my Turbo's LTE bands.
Does anyone have any experience with this process on the Turbo?
This was the guide I was going to use if so.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269

Well I can't help with your problem, but is it really possible to unlock some LTE bands? Isn't this a hardware restriction?
Droid turbo can't use German LTE network because band 800 and others are missing, would be great if band 800 could be unlocked, I would order a Turbo immediately.

Einheit-101 said:
Well I can't help with your problem, but is it really possible to unlock some LTE bands? Isn't this a hardware restriction?
Droid turbo can't use German LTE network because band 800 and others are missing, would be great if band 800 could be unlocked, I would order a Turbo immediately.
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It would have to be bands other Quarks have, at the very least. And that's assuming there's commonality in all the XT1254 and XT1225 firmware, and that Motorola just locked down different LTE bands.
This has worked for various Samsung models with Qualcomm Snapdragon SoC produced for different parts of the world, so there is precedent.

Any Verizon Turbo users on AT&T?

Hello,
I was wondering that now with root and BL unlock, is it possible to enable more bands to work with AT&T LTE? I enjoy the Turbo and having H+ only isn't exactly a deal breaker, but LTE would be nice to have yet. Any help appreciated!
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mustafu said:
Hello,
I was wondering that now with root and BL unlock, is it possible to enable more bands to work with AT&T LTE? I enjoy the Turbo and having H+ only isn't exactly a deal breaker, but LTE would be nice to have yet. Any help appreciated!
Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk
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Unless the Droid Turbo XT1254 has the AT&T LTE bands, there's no way to "enable" them.
Besides the Turbo already works on almost any carrier, you just have to edit the APN settings for your network.

Latiken said:
Unless the Droid Turbo XT1254 has the AT&T LTE bands, there's no way to "enable" them.
Besides the Turbo already works on almost any carrier, you just have to edit the APN settings for your network.
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Thank you. I was under the impression that the bands were present, just not enabled or something. But the bands just simply aren't there.
Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk

mustafu said:
Thank you. I was under the impression that the bands were present, just not enabled or something. But the bands just simply aren't there.
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That's unfortunate. If you can, you could buy the US Moto Maxx, I'm sure that one has the LTE bands.

Latiken said:
Unless the Droid Turbo XT1254 has the AT&T LTE bands, there's no way to "enable" them.
Besides the Turbo already works on almost any carrier, you just have to edit the APN settings for your network.
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That's unfortunate. If you can, you could buy the US Moto Maxx, I'm sure that one has the LTE bands.
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The Droid Turbo XT1254/U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 (same identical device, same FCC ID) does not have all the AT&T bands. AT&T uses LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17.
Only the "international" Moto Maxx XT1225 & Moto Turbo XT1225 has all the AT&T bands. The XT1225 has a different FCC ID from the XT1254/XT1250 -- has no CDMA bands, but has more HSPA bands, and a different mix of LTE bands (bands 5 and 7, but no band 13). The radios between the XT1250/XT1254 and the XT1225 are not compatible, so you cannot flash one over the other.
You CAN use the Droid Turbo/U.S. Moto Maxx on AT&T, but you will not have LTE bands 5 and 17. Here in the Atlanta area, LTE band 17 is used extensively. You would only have LTE bands 2 & 4. For AT&T, you would be missing LTE bands 5 & 17. Which means you would drop down to HSPA (3G) in those areas where 2 & 4 were not available. In metro Atlanta, if I had the Droid Turbo on AT&T I would be on LTE band 2 half the time (north of Atlanta) and HSPA the rest of the time (in Atlanta, and south), since it doesn't have LTE band 17.
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All the Quarks share LTE bands 2, 3, 4, and 7. In the FCC letter it only mentions they share LTE bands 2 & 4, because no U.S. carriers use LTE bands 3 & 7, and the FCC is a U.S. regulatory agency.
Can you "enable" LTE bands 5 & 17 on the XT1254/XT1250?
Conversely, can you enable LTE band 13 on the XT1225?
Theoretically you could, since another Quark model has them... but realistically probably not. Samsung, One Plus, and others manufacturers disable bands not needed on their phones for various regions/carriers -- and by rooting and using modem software (ike QPST/QXDM) people have been able to "enable" additional LTE bands in various Snapdragon phones. The Galaxy S5 in Europe has the bands needed there, and the Galaxy S5 in Latin America has the bands needed there. The bands not needed are disabled via software interface, and by editing that people have been able to create "world" phones with all bands enabled! (Google it.)
The difference in Nexus phones is those bands are NOT disabled.
But that only works if the bands were there to begin with, then disabled by the manufacturer. People have tried to add LTE band 20 (used in Europe) to the Moto XT1225 and were not successful. It would show it was enabled but they could not receive/send any signal on that band. The issue is no Quarks anywhere have LTE band 20, so there's not really an LTE band 20 that can be enabled. Like turning on a light switch that's not connected to anything.
HOWEVER, theoretically, since one variant of Quark has LTE band 13 and the other doesn't, and other variant has LTE band 5 & 17 and the other doesn't, you could create a Quark that had ALL the bands between the two: 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 13, 17.. But it would depend on if Motorola/Lenovo manufacturer is similar process to Samsung and One Plus. Are all those bands there and they just disable what they don't want? Or do they use completely separate radio firmware for both variants?
I don't have the time or patience to go looking for bands I don't need. I did all the band enabling stuff earlier before Motorola admitted the XT1225 had LTE band 5 already.
This is a screenshot of the "3G" bands in QPST. There's similar interface for the LTE bands. But it was a LOT of hassle, and then I found out the XT1225 already had LTE band 5. It was in the FCC tests, but not in the official specs when first released. Only MONTHS later when the XT1225 was released in India (under the Moto Turbo name) did Motorola finally put LTE band 5 in the specs.

Thanks! That was very informative. I'm ok with HSPA+, which I get 90% of the time and LTE the other 10. The Verizon XT1254 even has a proper "H+" icon, I had read previously it says "3G"
Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk

At least you'll be saving a lot of battery life with this beast of a phone.

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At least you'll be saving a lot of battery life with this beast of a phone.
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Is HSPA+ more battery efficient than LTE I wonder? It's of no consequence since it takes a fair bit of effort to kill the battery in a Turbo, but still curious
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mustafu said:
Is HSPA+ more battery efficient than LTE I wonder? It's of no consequence since it takes a fair bit of effort to kill the battery in a Turbo, but still curious
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I think it is, since it's basically just 3G right? I do know that LTE sips your battery like nothing else though.

I ordered the XT1250 on a whim and was apparently confused on what would and wouldn't work. So after reading this and reading some failures others had in enabling band 17, is it safe to assume that I should probably send it back since I won't have good LTE coverage on LTE (especially if I am moving to Atlanta for grad school at GT next semester)? I bought it when I saw the initial xt1225 vs xt1250 vs xt1254 guide that said the 1250 worked with ATT LTE. So it only works with ATT LTE in some areas?

willwalk93 said:
I ordered the XT1250 on a whim and was apparently confused on what would and wouldn't work. So after reading this and reading some failures others had in enabling band 17, is it safe to assume that I should probably send it back since I won't have good LTE coverage on LTE (especially if I am moving to Atlanta for grad school at GT next semester)? I bought it when I saw the initial xt1225 vs xt1250 vs xt1254 guide that said the 1250 worked with ATT LTE. So it only works with ATT LTE in some areas?
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You won't get LTE band 17 on the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx (XT1254 Droid Turbo under another name).
I have AT&T, live in metro Atlanta area and use LTE band 17 quite a bit.
I'm in downtown Atlanta right now at work, and I'm on LTE band 17. North of Atlanta, in the suburbs where I live AT&T uses LTE band 2, and further north towards Chattanooga or west towards Alabama there's a lot of LTE band 4. Georgia Tech of course is smack in downtown Atlanta, so you would be there a lot more than me.
Here's my LTE Discovery log, so you can see.
However, you would still have connectivity on AT&T... You would get LTE bands 2 & 4 where those are available, but you would drop down to HSPA in areas where there was only LTE band 17. Nationwide, AT&T uses LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17. But, in Georgia (and other states I've traveled) I have not encountered LTE band 5 yet.
The XT1250 and XT1254 are identical, down to the FCC ID. Same CDMA, HSPA, and LTE bands.
The XT1225 has a different FCC ID because it has different mix of LTE bands and greater number of LTE bands (2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17), more HSPA bands and no CDMA.

willwalk93 said:
I ordered the XT1250 on a whim and was apparently confused on what would and wouldn't work. So after reading this and reading some failures others had in enabling band 17, is it safe to assume that I should probably send it back since I won't have good LTE coverage on LTE (especially if I am moving to Atlanta for grad school at GT next semester)? I bought it when I saw the initial xt1225 vs xt1250 vs xt1254 guide that said the 1250 worked with ATT LTE. So it only works with ATT LTE in some areas?
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Hard to say...I'm just dealing with HSPA+, I average 5meg down and 1.5-2megs up, so it's adequate for most anything. Of course it pulls LTE some of the time also.
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Gotcha. Thanks guys. I was thinking since Motorola said the antennas were the same that I could enable band 17, but since that's not the case, I may send it back and save up for the xt1225 or the Moto X Force.

willwalk93 said:
Gotcha. Thanks guys. I was thinking since Motorola said the antennas were the same that I could enable band 17, but since that's not the case, I may send it back and save up for the xt1225 or the Moto X Force.
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But is it true that 17 can't be enabled? I'm still looking into this myself as I really don't have the means to get a different phone, at least not one on par with the Verizon Turbo.
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That's kind of what I was getting. I'm still a bit curious. I read in another thread @ChazzMatt said it would be theoretically possible since the Motorola FCC letter stated that they had the same hardware and antenna, but he did not recommend others trying it.
And yeah, I'm a college kid about to start grad school, so I don't have the means to purchase a new international flagship either. I know that if I get the phone and request the unlock code from Motorola, then my warranty is totally void. I'm used to that, I've unlocked and rooted every phone I've ever owned. So if ChazzMatt thinks bands 5 and 17 may actually be there, I'm willing to jump down that rabbit hole if I keep the phone.
EDIT: Also, having grown up in rural MS, 5 megs down is like lightning. My residence wasn't eligible for any internet service better than hughesnet until two months ago when UVerse became available.

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That's kind of what I was getting. I'm still a bit curious. I read in another thread @ChazzMatt said it would be theoretically possible since the Motorola FCC letter stated that they had the same hardware and antenna, but he did not recommend others trying it.
And yeah, I'm a college kid about to start grad school, so I don't have the means to purchase a new international flagship either. I know that if I get the phone and request the unlock code from Motorola, then my warranty is totally void. I'm used to that, I've unlocked and rooted every phone I've ever owned. So if ChazzMatt thinks bands 5 and 17 may actually be there, I'm willing to jump down that rabbit hole if I keep the phone.
EDIT: Also, having grown up in rural MS, 5 megs down is like lightning. My residence wasn't eligible for any internet service better than hughesnet until two months ago when UVerse became available.
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If you're willing to jump through the QPST, QXDM, LTE bands calculator and similar software hoops , you can try. But, if it doesn't work for you, don't blame me. Adding LTE bands 5 and 17 to the XT1250/XT1254 is more feasible than trying to add something like LTE band 20 (Europe) since at least another Quark (XT1225) does have them. Or adding LTE band 13 to the XT1225...since the XT1250/XT1254 has it. But I don't need LTE band 13, so I'm not concerned.
I did a crash course in all this last year, before Motorola finally admitted the XT1225 had LTE band 5. It was there in the FCC tests, but then was not listed in the official specs -- for some strange reason -- when the phone was sold in various Latin American countries. (I think Motorola originally was going to sell the XT1225 through AT&T, which is why it has ALL the AT&T LTE bands, then changed their plans.) Then, when the Moto Turbo XT1225, with the same FCC ID as the Moto Maxx XT1225 debuted in India, Motorola finally listed all the LTE bands.
(Two devices with the same FCC ID have identical communication properties, bands, etc. This is by law, due the American Disabilities Act. Handicapped people depend on this stuff and companies can be fined large amounts of money by the government, plus be liable for MILLIONS in lawsuits from eager lawyers. That was why when I found the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx and XT1254 Droid Turbo had the same FCC ID, all the arguments for Verizon "exclusivity" were over. Legally, technically, everything, they are the same device. Don't care if they have different Motorola model names or numbers.)
But I went through all this stuff to enable the "missing" LTE band 5, when it was already there!
By the way, when the FCC tests phones, they only test for bands used by U.S. carriers, which is why for instance LTE band 7 is not listed in the FCC test results, but is listed in the official XT1225 specs. It's a band used extensively in Latin America countries.

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If you're willing to jump through the QPST, QXDM, LTE bands calculator and similar software hoops , you can try. But, if it doesn't work for you, don't blame me. Adding LTE bands 5 and 17 to the XT1250/XT1254 is more feasible than trying to add something like LTE band 20 (Europe) since at least another Quark (XT1225) does have them. Or adding LTE band 13 to the XT1225...since the XT1250/XT1254 has it. But I don't need LTE band 13, so I'm not concerned.
I did a crash course in all this last year, before Motorola finally admitted the XT1225 had LTE band 5. It was there in the FCC tests, but then was not listed in the official specs -- for some strange reason. (I think Motorola originally was going to sell the XT1225 through AT&T, which is why it has ALL the AT&T LTE bands.) Then, when the Moto Turbo XT1225, with the same FCC ID as the Moto Maxx XT1225 debuted in India, Motorola finally listed all the LTE bands.
But I went through all this stuff to enable the "missing" LTE band 5, when it was already there!
By the way, when the FCC tests phones, they only test for bands used by U.S. carriers, which is why for instance LTE band 7 is not listed in the FCC test results, but is listed in the official XT1225 specs. It's a band used extensively in Latin America countries.
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Oh, I certainly wouldn't blame you. You never claimed it would actually work, just that it was possible. I haven't read through all the nitty gritty details of the process yet, since I was on the fence about using it. But I do have three questions before I try it:
1) How long do you think it would take?
2) Would I need to repeat the process any time I flashed a new ROM?
3) Is the risk of failure limited more to the bands just not being there or actually hard bricking the phone?
If the process doesn't take a terribly long time and the phone comes in by Wednesday (which it should), I can try it before I head to Georgia Tech for a visit Thursday.

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Oh, I certainly wouldn't blame you. You never claimed it would actually work, just that it was possible. I haven't read through all the nitty gritty details of the process yet, since I was on the fence about using it. But I do have three questions before I try it:
1) How long do you think it would take?
2) Would I need to repeat the process any time I flashed a new ROM?
3) Is the risk of failure limited more to the bands just not being there or actually hard bricking the phone?
If the process doesn't take a terribly long time and the phone comes in by Wednesday (which it should), I can try it before I head to Georgia Tech for a visit Thursday.
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1. I wouldn't rush it
2. No, if successful, the changes would be permanent and persist between ROMs
3. Not sure, if you refer to answer 1 though, you should be alright
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Sweet. I may give it a shot. I'm rocking band 2 lte at my current location and back home, so worst case scenario, I don't get it. I'll let you know if I get it working. I'll have to get the phone and unlock the bootloader and all then familiarize myself with Motorola procedures since I'm used to HTC and Samsung.

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Sweet. I may give it a shot. I'm rocking band 2 lte at my current location and back home, so worst case scenario, I don't get it. I'll let you know if I get it working. I'll have to get the phone and unlock the bootloader and all then familiarize myself with Motorola procedures since I'm used to HTC and Samsung.
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Cool, I'm gonna do the same and I'll let ya know if I manage it also. I was looking around at alternative phone options, but honestly, my Turbo doesn't leave me wanting
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Find the right droid turbo

Hi at all. I'm looking for buy a droid turbo on eBay but i see that there is 3 principal version: verizon, gsm unloked and factory unloked. I'm from italy and i don't understand if the "verizon" version work with all gsm worldwide carriers or only with verizon sim.

Please refer to this thread, I asked for advices and live in France. You should be fine except for 4G LTE bands. Depending on your carrier, the XT1254/XT1250 (Verizon Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx) should have less LTE signal than the XT1225 (Moto Maxx international version), if any.

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Please refer to this thread, I asked for advices and live in France. You should be fine except for 4G LTE bands. Depending on your carrier, the XT1254/XT1250 (Verizon Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx) should have less LTE signal than the XT1225 (Moto Maxx international version), if any.
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Then you confirm that all droid turbo verizon selled on eBay are sim free (i can put on it a italian or europea sim carier)? The lte band in theory work with my gsm carier.

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Please refer to this thread, I asked for advices and live in France. You should be fine except for 4G LTE bands. Depending on your carrier, the XT1254/XT1250 (Verizon Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx) should have less LTE signal than the XT1225 (Moto Maxx international version), if any.
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Then you confirm that all droid turbo verizon selled on eBay are sim free (i can put on it a italian or europea sim carier)? The lte band in theory work with my gsm carier.

yeap they all work fine. I got a limited edition one from verizon and it works just fine in Greece. Like mentioned earlier though you will have reduced signal reception for lte

Yes, the U.S. FCC agency makes Verizon sell all LTE phones now unlocked to work with any carrier, as long as the LTE bands are compatible.
This was part of the agreement for Verizon to get more LTE spectrum from the government.
AT&T did not have to make this agreement, only Verizon.
The issue is for most people living in other countries (most, not all), they don't need CDMA but they do need HSPA and LTE. The XT1225 "international" Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo has more HSPA bands and more LTE bands AND has easily unlockable bootloader. But a lot of people only know about one Quark -- the Droid Turbo, when there are better versions out there for their purposes. The Verizon public relations machine LIED and made people think the Droid Turbo was "exclusive" WORLDWIDE, when it wasn't even exclusive in the U.S (Many regions CDMA/LTE carriers in the U.S. sold identical phone!)
So, people don't know about the U.S. Moto Maxx (XT1250) which is identical in every way to the Droid Turbo (same radio bands, same FCC ID) or they don't know about the XT1225 "international" Moto Maxx, which has more HSPA and LTE bands (but not CDMA bands).
Basically the Moto "Quark" is like a an LG G4. I'm using that premium LG phone as an example. An LG G4 has the the same hardware, no matter where sold, no matter what carrier -- but has different radio bands (and different model number) depending on the region/carrier. But it's STILL an LG G4 -- whether sold in Europe, India, South America, or by Verizon or AT&T in the U.S.
Basically that describes a Moto Quark. Verizon's Quark was called the Droid Turbo. That's all, it's still just a Quark. The only thing "exclusive" about it was the locked down bootloader. Motorola gave the same phone to other carriers, the same way LG have the G4 to other carriers besides Verizon. Other Quarks are called Moto Maxx or Moto Turbo, but you have to go by the MODEL NUMBER to make sure you have the right one, since there were two Moto Maxx models with different radio bands (XT1250, XT1225). Then in India, the XT1225 was re-named the Moto Turbo, since there was an Indian phone carrier named Max or Maxx, and Motorola didn't want people to think this phone was affiliated with that carrier. So, even the "Turbo" name was not exclusive in any way. You can't say "I have a Turbo!" There were TWO Quarks called "Turbo". You have to use model names, XT1250, XT1254, XT1225 to differentiate between the Quarks.
(Verizon owns the rights to "Droid" name in the mobile arena, licensed from LucasArts/Disney and can call ANY phone a Droid -- even crappy low end phones, if they wished. "Droid" does not mean anything, and is not limited to any manufacturer. So far, Verizon has only used it with Motorola phones, but Verizon controls the name, not any manufacturer. Verizon now has mid-tier phones with Droid name, so they are not even pretending Droid is a premium phone any more.)
By naming the same Quark phone by different model names caused a lot of confusion, but Verizon demanded that so they could PRETEND they had some exclusive phone. Same way the Droid Turbo 2 was the Moto X Force everywhere else. No exclusives -- just a different model name for Verizon for the same phone.
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See this post for more information about bands. Italy is like France -- you'll get LTE bands 3 and 7, but not LTE band 20. What HSPA bands do you need?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67657958&postcount=3