Hello,
I was wondering that now with root and BL unlock, is it possible to enable more bands to work with AT&T LTE? I enjoy the Turbo and having H+ only isn't exactly a deal breaker, but LTE would be nice to have yet. Any help appreciated!
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mustafu said:
Hello,
I was wondering that now with root and BL unlock, is it possible to enable more bands to work with AT&T LTE? I enjoy the Turbo and having H+ only isn't exactly a deal breaker, but LTE would be nice to have yet. Any help appreciated!
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Unless the Droid Turbo XT1254 has the AT&T LTE bands, there's no way to "enable" them.
Besides the Turbo already works on almost any carrier, you just have to edit the APN settings for your network.
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Unless the Droid Turbo XT1254 has the AT&T LTE bands, there's no way to "enable" them.
Besides the Turbo already works on almost any carrier, you just have to edit the APN settings for your network.
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Thank you. I was under the impression that the bands were present, just not enabled or something. But the bands just simply aren't there.
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mustafu said:
Thank you. I was under the impression that the bands were present, just not enabled or something. But the bands just simply aren't there.
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That's unfortunate. If you can, you could buy the US Moto Maxx, I'm sure that one has the LTE bands.
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Unless the Droid Turbo XT1254 has the AT&T LTE bands, there's no way to "enable" them.
Besides the Turbo already works on almost any carrier, you just have to edit the APN settings for your network.
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That's unfortunate. If you can, you could buy the US Moto Maxx, I'm sure that one has the LTE bands.
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The Droid Turbo XT1254/U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 (same identical device, same FCC ID) does not have all the AT&T bands. AT&T uses LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17.
Only the "international" Moto Maxx XT1225 & Moto Turbo XT1225 has all the AT&T bands. The XT1225 has a different FCC ID from the XT1254/XT1250 -- has no CDMA bands, but has more HSPA bands, and a different mix of LTE bands (bands 5 and 7, but no band 13). The radios between the XT1250/XT1254 and the XT1225 are not compatible, so you cannot flash one over the other.
You CAN use the Droid Turbo/U.S. Moto Maxx on AT&T, but you will not have LTE bands 5 and 17. Here in the Atlanta area, LTE band 17 is used extensively. You would only have LTE bands 2 & 4. For AT&T, you would be missing LTE bands 5 & 17. Which means you would drop down to HSPA (3G) in those areas where 2 & 4 were not available. In metro Atlanta, if I had the Droid Turbo on AT&T I would be on LTE band 2 half the time (north of Atlanta) and HSPA the rest of the time (in Atlanta, and south), since it doesn't have LTE band 17.
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All the Quarks share LTE bands 2, 3, 4, and 7. In the FCC letter it only mentions they share LTE bands 2 & 4, because no U.S. carriers use LTE bands 3 & 7, and the FCC is a U.S. regulatory agency.
Can you "enable" LTE bands 5 & 17 on the XT1254/XT1250?
Conversely, can you enable LTE band 13 on the XT1225?
Theoretically you could, since another Quark model has them... but realistically probably not. Samsung, One Plus, and others manufacturers disable bands not needed on their phones for various regions/carriers -- and by rooting and using modem software (ike QPST/QXDM) people have been able to "enable" additional LTE bands in various Snapdragon phones. The Galaxy S5 in Europe has the bands needed there, and the Galaxy S5 in Latin America has the bands needed there. The bands not needed are disabled via software interface, and by editing that people have been able to create "world" phones with all bands enabled! (Google it.)
The difference in Nexus phones is those bands are NOT disabled.
But that only works if the bands were there to begin with, then disabled by the manufacturer. People have tried to add LTE band 20 (used in Europe) to the Moto XT1225 and were not successful. It would show it was enabled but they could not receive/send any signal on that band. The issue is no Quarks anywhere have LTE band 20, so there's not really an LTE band 20 that can be enabled. Like turning on a light switch that's not connected to anything.
HOWEVER, theoretically, since one variant of Quark has LTE band 13 and the other doesn't, and other variant has LTE band 5 & 17 and the other doesn't, you could create a Quark that had ALL the bands between the two: 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 13, 17.. But it would depend on if Motorola/Lenovo manufacturer is similar process to Samsung and One Plus. Are all those bands there and they just disable what they don't want? Or do they use completely separate radio firmware for both variants?
I don't have the time or patience to go looking for bands I don't need. I did all the band enabling stuff earlier before Motorola admitted the XT1225 had LTE band 5 already.
This is a screenshot of the "3G" bands in QPST. There's similar interface for the LTE bands. But it was a LOT of hassle, and then I found out the XT1225 already had LTE band 5. It was in the FCC tests, but not in the official specs when first released. Only MONTHS later when the XT1225 was released in India (under the Moto Turbo name) did Motorola finally put LTE band 5 in the specs.
Thanks! That was very informative. I'm ok with HSPA+, which I get 90% of the time and LTE the other 10. The Verizon XT1254 even has a proper "H+" icon, I had read previously it says "3G"
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At least you'll be saving a lot of battery life with this beast of a phone.
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At least you'll be saving a lot of battery life with this beast of a phone.
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Is HSPA+ more battery efficient than LTE I wonder? It's of no consequence since it takes a fair bit of effort to kill the battery in a Turbo, but still curious
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Is HSPA+ more battery efficient than LTE I wonder? It's of no consequence since it takes a fair bit of effort to kill the battery in a Turbo, but still curious
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I think it is, since it's basically just 3G right? I do know that LTE sips your battery like nothing else though.
I ordered the XT1250 on a whim and was apparently confused on what would and wouldn't work. So after reading this and reading some failures others had in enabling band 17, is it safe to assume that I should probably send it back since I won't have good LTE coverage on LTE (especially if I am moving to Atlanta for grad school at GT next semester)? I bought it when I saw the initial xt1225 vs xt1250 vs xt1254 guide that said the 1250 worked with ATT LTE. So it only works with ATT LTE in some areas?
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I ordered the XT1250 on a whim and was apparently confused on what would and wouldn't work. So after reading this and reading some failures others had in enabling band 17, is it safe to assume that I should probably send it back since I won't have good LTE coverage on LTE (especially if I am moving to Atlanta for grad school at GT next semester)? I bought it when I saw the initial xt1225 vs xt1250 vs xt1254 guide that said the 1250 worked with ATT LTE. So it only works with ATT LTE in some areas?
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You won't get LTE band 17 on the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx (XT1254 Droid Turbo under another name).
I have AT&T, live in metro Atlanta area and use LTE band 17 quite a bit.
I'm in downtown Atlanta right now at work, and I'm on LTE band 17. North of Atlanta, in the suburbs where I live AT&T uses LTE band 2, and further north towards Chattanooga or west towards Alabama there's a lot of LTE band 4. Georgia Tech of course is smack in downtown Atlanta, so you would be there a lot more than me.
Here's my LTE Discovery log, so you can see.
However, you would still have connectivity on AT&T... You would get LTE bands 2 & 4 where those are available, but you would drop down to HSPA in areas where there was only LTE band 17. Nationwide, AT&T uses LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17. But, in Georgia (and other states I've traveled) I have not encountered LTE band 5 yet.
The XT1250 and XT1254 are identical, down to the FCC ID. Same CDMA, HSPA, and LTE bands.
The XT1225 has a different FCC ID because it has different mix of LTE bands and greater number of LTE bands (2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17), more HSPA bands and no CDMA.
willwalk93 said:
I ordered the XT1250 on a whim and was apparently confused on what would and wouldn't work. So after reading this and reading some failures others had in enabling band 17, is it safe to assume that I should probably send it back since I won't have good LTE coverage on LTE (especially if I am moving to Atlanta for grad school at GT next semester)? I bought it when I saw the initial xt1225 vs xt1250 vs xt1254 guide that said the 1250 worked with ATT LTE. So it only works with ATT LTE in some areas?
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Hard to say...I'm just dealing with HSPA+, I average 5meg down and 1.5-2megs up, so it's adequate for most anything. Of course it pulls LTE some of the time also.
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Gotcha. Thanks guys. I was thinking since Motorola said the antennas were the same that I could enable band 17, but since that's not the case, I may send it back and save up for the xt1225 or the Moto X Force.
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Gotcha. Thanks guys. I was thinking since Motorola said the antennas were the same that I could enable band 17, but since that's not the case, I may send it back and save up for the xt1225 or the Moto X Force.
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But is it true that 17 can't be enabled? I'm still looking into this myself as I really don't have the means to get a different phone, at least not one on par with the Verizon Turbo.
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That's kind of what I was getting. I'm still a bit curious. I read in another thread @ChazzMatt said it would be theoretically possible since the Motorola FCC letter stated that they had the same hardware and antenna, but he did not recommend others trying it.
And yeah, I'm a college kid about to start grad school, so I don't have the means to purchase a new international flagship either. I know that if I get the phone and request the unlock code from Motorola, then my warranty is totally void. I'm used to that, I've unlocked and rooted every phone I've ever owned. So if ChazzMatt thinks bands 5 and 17 may actually be there, I'm willing to jump down that rabbit hole if I keep the phone.
EDIT: Also, having grown up in rural MS, 5 megs down is like lightning. My residence wasn't eligible for any internet service better than hughesnet until two months ago when UVerse became available.
willwalk93 said:
That's kind of what I was getting. I'm still a bit curious. I read in another thread @ChazzMatt said it would be theoretically possible since the Motorola FCC letter stated that they had the same hardware and antenna, but he did not recommend others trying it.
And yeah, I'm a college kid about to start grad school, so I don't have the means to purchase a new international flagship either. I know that if I get the phone and request the unlock code from Motorola, then my warranty is totally void. I'm used to that, I've unlocked and rooted every phone I've ever owned. So if ChazzMatt thinks bands 5 and 17 may actually be there, I'm willing to jump down that rabbit hole if I keep the phone.
EDIT: Also, having grown up in rural MS, 5 megs down is like lightning. My residence wasn't eligible for any internet service better than hughesnet until two months ago when UVerse became available.
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If you're willing to jump through the QPST, QXDM, LTE bands calculator and similar software hoops , you can try. But, if it doesn't work for you, don't blame me. Adding LTE bands 5 and 17 to the XT1250/XT1254 is more feasible than trying to add something like LTE band 20 (Europe) since at least another Quark (XT1225) does have them. Or adding LTE band 13 to the XT1225...since the XT1250/XT1254 has it. But I don't need LTE band 13, so I'm not concerned.
I did a crash course in all this last year, before Motorola finally admitted the XT1225 had LTE band 5. It was there in the FCC tests, but then was not listed in the official specs -- for some strange reason -- when the phone was sold in various Latin American countries. (I think Motorola originally was going to sell the XT1225 through AT&T, which is why it has ALL the AT&T LTE bands, then changed their plans.) Then, when the Moto Turbo XT1225, with the same FCC ID as the Moto Maxx XT1225 debuted in India, Motorola finally listed all the LTE bands.
(Two devices with the same FCC ID have identical communication properties, bands, etc. This is by law, due the American Disabilities Act. Handicapped people depend on this stuff and companies can be fined large amounts of money by the government, plus be liable for MILLIONS in lawsuits from eager lawyers. That was why when I found the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx and XT1254 Droid Turbo had the same FCC ID, all the arguments for Verizon "exclusivity" were over. Legally, technically, everything, they are the same device. Don't care if they have different Motorola model names or numbers.)
But I went through all this stuff to enable the "missing" LTE band 5, when it was already there!
By the way, when the FCC tests phones, they only test for bands used by U.S. carriers, which is why for instance LTE band 7 is not listed in the FCC test results, but is listed in the official XT1225 specs. It's a band used extensively in Latin America countries.
ChazzMatt said:
If you're willing to jump through the QPST, QXDM, LTE bands calculator and similar software hoops , you can try. But, if it doesn't work for you, don't blame me. Adding LTE bands 5 and 17 to the XT1250/XT1254 is more feasible than trying to add something like LTE band 20 (Europe) since at least another Quark (XT1225) does have them. Or adding LTE band 13 to the XT1225...since the XT1250/XT1254 has it. But I don't need LTE band 13, so I'm not concerned.
I did a crash course in all this last year, before Motorola finally admitted the XT1225 had LTE band 5. It was there in the FCC tests, but then was not listed in the official specs -- for some strange reason. (I think Motorola originally was going to sell the XT1225 through AT&T, which is why it has ALL the AT&T LTE bands.) Then, when the Moto Turbo XT1225, with the same FCC ID as the Moto Maxx XT1225 debuted in India, Motorola finally listed all the LTE bands.
But I went through all this stuff to enable the "missing" LTE band 5, when it was already there!
By the way, when the FCC tests phones, they only test for bands used by U.S. carriers, which is why for instance LTE band 7 is not listed in the FCC test results, but is listed in the official XT1225 specs. It's a band used extensively in Latin America countries.
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Oh, I certainly wouldn't blame you. You never claimed it would actually work, just that it was possible. I haven't read through all the nitty gritty details of the process yet, since I was on the fence about using it. But I do have three questions before I try it:
1) How long do you think it would take?
2) Would I need to repeat the process any time I flashed a new ROM?
3) Is the risk of failure limited more to the bands just not being there or actually hard bricking the phone?
If the process doesn't take a terribly long time and the phone comes in by Wednesday (which it should), I can try it before I head to Georgia Tech for a visit Thursday.
willwalk93 said:
Oh, I certainly wouldn't blame you. You never claimed it would actually work, just that it was possible. I haven't read through all the nitty gritty details of the process yet, since I was on the fence about using it. But I do have three questions before I try it:
1) How long do you think it would take?
2) Would I need to repeat the process any time I flashed a new ROM?
3) Is the risk of failure limited more to the bands just not being there or actually hard bricking the phone?
If the process doesn't take a terribly long time and the phone comes in by Wednesday (which it should), I can try it before I head to Georgia Tech for a visit Thursday.
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1. I wouldn't rush it
2. No, if successful, the changes would be permanent and persist between ROMs
3. Not sure, if you refer to answer 1 though, you should be alright
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Sweet. I may give it a shot. I'm rocking band 2 lte at my current location and back home, so worst case scenario, I don't get it. I'll let you know if I get it working. I'll have to get the phone and unlock the bootloader and all then familiarize myself with Motorola procedures since I'm used to HTC and Samsung.
willwalk93 said:
Sweet. I may give it a shot. I'm rocking band 2 lte at my current location and back home, so worst case scenario, I don't get it. I'll let you know if I get it working. I'll have to get the phone and unlock the bootloader and all then familiarize myself with Motorola procedures since I'm used to HTC and Samsung.
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Cool, I'm gonna do the same and I'll let ya know if I manage it also. I was looking around at alternative phone options, but honestly, my Turbo doesn't leave me wanting
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I saw motorola website said that Droid Turbo is lte cat 4, bands 2,3,4,7,17.
In Hong Hong, which is useing lte cat 4, bands 3,7, if i use a unlock Droid Turbo, can it use 4G in Hong Kong?
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am looking for the answer too.. did you ever find out?
Theoretically, it should work. All Verizon phones come unlocked, and the turbo has the correct bands, so there's no reason why it shouldn't work. But there's really only one way to find out. Just make sure it's definitely bands 3 and 7 in your area.
Ekkoria said:
Theoretically, it should work. All Verizon phones come unlocked, and the turbo has the correct bands, so there's no reason why it shouldn't work. But there's really only one way to find out. Just make sure it's definitely bands 3 and 7 in your area.
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you're right.. the specs say yes too so i guess I'll just have to give it a go and grab one off ebay
yellowchilli said:
you're right.. the specs say yes too so i guess I'll just have to give it a go and grab one off ebay
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Before you do, I'd use LTE discovery on your current phone to make sure you're using the right bands. For example on my phone you can see I'm using LTE band 13.
v useful app there. its not reading my band at the moment so I'll try again when im out and about tomorrow.. appreciate the help mate
I have seen people have success in Italy, Ireland, Kuwait. But I cant connect here in Norway despite having matching bands. Its better to hold off. Im having a big fight with Moto Tech Support right now.
o well too late for me.. mine's already on its way. I guess we'll find out if this works in HK or not
eeww said:
I saw motorola website said that Droid Turbo is lte cat 4, bands 2,3,4,7,17.
In Hong Hong, which is useing lte cat 4, bands 3,7, if i use a unlock Droid Turbo, can it use 4G in Hong Kong?
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Probably doesn't make any difference to you, but you are quoting the "official" Moto Maxx (XT1225) bands, not the "official" Droid Turbo (XT1254) bands. They are both Motorola "Quark" phones -- but one is branded for U.S. Verizon and the other is being marketed to Latin America countries. Besides the Droid Turbo having CDMA (for Verizon), they also have slightly different LTE bands.
On the end of your string you have LTE band 17. That's Moto Maxx-- not Droid Turbo.
The Droid Turbo has LTE band 13 instead. Droid Turbo has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13.
And I put "official" in quotes, because QXDM software shows Moto Maxx also has LTE band 5, just as when it went through the U.S.A. FCC certification testing. Motorola apparently does not list that band in the "official" specs, as they decided to market the Moto Maxx to Latin America countries where LTE band 5 is not used. But it's still there.
For your purposes (Hong Kong), since all you need are LTE bands 3, 7 -- ostensibly either model should work.
However, the Moto Maxx has unlockable boot loader, we have root, and TWRP. If you are on XDA, those things are important, yes ? Whereas the Droid Turbo is very locked down. With root, I'm able to install and run Xposed/Gravity Box which gives me all the features of a custom ROM.
appreciate the info ChazzMatt. Wish I knew this before I paid up lol
In any case Im still relieved that LTE works just fine in HK.
Ekkoria said:
Theoretically, it should work. All Verizon phones come unlocked, and the turbo has the correct bands, so there's no reason why it shouldn't work. But there's really only one way to find out. Just make sure it's definitely bands 3 and 7 in your area.
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Probably doesn't make any difference to you, but you are quoting the "official" Moto Maxx (XT1225) bands, not the "official" Droid Turbo (XT1254) bands.
On the end of your string you have LTE band 17. That's Moto Maxx-- not Droid Turbo.
The Droid Turbo has LTE band 13 instead. Droid Turbo has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13.
And I put "official" in quotes, because QXDM software shows Moto Maxx also has LTE band 5, just as when it went through the U.S.A. FCC certification testing. But Motorola does not list that band in the "official" specs, as they decided to market the Moto Maxx to Latin America countries where LTE band 5 is not used. But it's still there.
For your purposes (Hong Kong), since all you need are LTE bands 3, 7 -- ostensibly either model should work.
However, the Moto Maxx has unlockable boot loader, we have root, and TWRP. If you are on XDA, those things are important, yes ? Whereas the Droid Turbo is very locked down. With root, I'm able to install and run Xposed/Gravity Box which gives me all the features of a custom ROM.
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droid turbo in hong kong
yellowchilli said:
appreciate the info ChazzMatt. Wish I knew this before I paid up lol
In any case Im still relieved that LTE works just fine in HK.
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Which carrier did you use in hong Kong? Also did you have to change any settings on the phone to make it work?
Smartone, 4g on 1800mhz. works perfectly. it did all the apn settings on its own.
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i read some threads here on Xda that some people where able to unlock some LTE bands on smarphones with Qualcom processors.
i want to know if this is possible on Moto Maxx.
here in Europe we need band 7 and 20 to works for LTE and the band 20 it s not suported on MOTO MAXX.
thanks
Nope. Moto Maxx is as band unlocked as your gonna get.
Want crazy LTE flexibility, without an iPhone........
Nexus 6 is your only choice.
wil the moto maxx work on verizon?
So Europe is a no go. What about Verizon here in the US?
Someone would have to try, but it is dangerous and for the more experienced... for the qualcomm devices what I understand is that one can enable the various bands that can be enabled but this doesn't mean they can be used due to hardwares. In most of the cases I've read about, only a few bands on average are able to be enabled (nothing is guarenteed, but some claims of call, sms, etc). It would be interesting to know what bands on the moto maxx are disabled (not advertised and probably not even usable harware-wise, but interesting none the less).
I searched around and read a bit but for others who are curious- these are from various devices fora: http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/thread-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guide-unlock-aditional-bands-qualcomm-t2877031
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
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So Europe is a no go. What about Verizon here in the US?
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No, you can't bring a non Verizon phone to Verizon. The only method to do so is illegal and it is against forum rules to discuss it here.
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No, you can't bring a non Verizon phone to Verizon. The only method to do so is illegal and it is against forum rules to discuss it here.
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That isn't 100% true.
Nexus 6 anyone? Nothing illegal there.
OK, using this guide and the numbers from the NV calculator, I enabled all the LTE bands I wanted.
In case anyone is wondering this value will "theoretically" enable band 12 and the other ones listed below on the OPO
LTE:Band 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 19, 20, 21
06828: 1906911
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I confirmed this number.
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So, I changed the value and after reboot it kept the new value.
As the Moto Maxx was being tested to be the Nexus 6 as late as mid-August, it has the same capabilities of the Nexus 6 (including Qi wireless charging, which is VERY unusual on a Moto phone). Thus it can also handle T-mobile's LTE band 12 just like the Moto Maxx, not that it matters. It was LTE band 5 (for AT&T) I was more worried about. When this phone with this same FCC ID number went through the FCC it had LTE band 5 enabled, but when sold in Puerto Rico (U.S. territory) with this same FCC ID number, LTE band 5 was no longer present but LTE band 3 was enabled.
Now they are all enabled.
So, yeah, I wouldn't buy a phone without that capability.
But then, I also wouldn't buy a phone where I couldn't unlock the bootloader and root, either.
The above procedure will work on most any Qualcomm Snapdragon chipset phone from a major manufacturer. Most manufacturers use the same hardware across the world, but use software lockdown to only enable certain bands for specific carriers. If you are rooted, you can use available software to unlock those bands.
Here's something similar for the Samsung Galaxy S5:
Enable unlock edit add GSM LTE bands to Samsung Galaxy S5 QualComm
http://help.howproblemsolution.com/...d-gsm-lte-bands-to-samsung-galaxy-s5-qualcomm
Nice
Awesome ChazzMatt!
I have a Moto Maxx on the way and am eager to try this. In the S5 tutorial, a custom kernel is mentioned as being required. Is that the case for the Moto Maxx? I'm not even sure if one exists yet...
dreyln said:
Awesome ChazzMatt!
I have a Moto Maxx on the way and am eager to try this. In the S5 tutorial, a custom kernel is mentioned as being required. Is that the case for the Moto Maxx? I'm not even sure if one exists yet...
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There's 3 tutorials floating around, for Qualcomm Snapdragon. One is more general, the other two focus on the specific phones. They all at first focus on QPST which is 2G and 3G bands. Two of the three tutorials then also mention QXDM for LTE bands. One of the tutorials , which specifically discusses QXDM/LTE, as an addendum has a FILE you first flash in recovery that lets you make changes needed. This is the guide I followed for the latter steps.
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LTE Tutorial (yet another addendum for OP)
Here I tried to make a step by step compilation of all you need to unlock LTE bands in OP style.
Introduction:
Since OP, we got bads and goods, all NV write ability are belong to CM, for great justice, dlhxr took off every lock, etc. but since I'm lazy and all, I'm going to stop introduction there.
It will theoretically unlock:
GSM: DCS-1800/P-GSM/E-GSM/GSM-850/Railways-900/PCS-1900
WCDMA: Band I to XI
LTE: Band 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 19, 20, 21
PS: Even if they're theorically enabled, some band cannot be used because of hardware limitation...
The Guide:
1. Download the rmt_storage patch and put it in your phone storage's root.
2. reboot your phone in recovery mode, install the rmt_storage patch then reboot in system mode aka normal mode. (when phone start, you won't have any signal for a min or two so don't panic)
3. Follow OP's steps from 1 to 9 (we need QPST configuration's server configured and active)
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I'm not going to quote the entire guide, but I used that file from Step 1, flashed in recovery. By the end of the process (many steps), QXDM now shows changed values in the LTE config line. You do need both QXDM and QPST to be installed as you use QPST in earlier steps to connect the phone's modem to your PC.
Only when I got the modem to be recognized, was I able to move forward. This same thread has an addendum for Moto phones, which helped tremendously as a few steps differ from the other brand being discussed.
over in QPST was other 2G/3G bands to unlock (if hardware permits) but my Moto Maxx already has all of that I need.
this is what comes with the phone, already enabled (2G/3G). See list the program showed me.
This this is what was all able to unlock, again if hardware (like antenna) permits.
But once I got to this part, then I saw there were no LTE bands in the list. This is for 2G/3G only. Reading the threads more, I saw I had to go to QXDM for LTE band enabling. But still QPST is needed to bond the phone modem to your PC to edit the values. Up in the QPST part, the modem is assigned to COM port 8. I then had QXDM read COM port 8 for values.
Line 6828 is for LTE. Now look down in "fields", where I hit the READ button.
I changed the value, rebooted, when through all the steps (bonding the modem, etc) and read the value again. It kept the edited value.
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COMMENTARY:
Really, all I wanted was to enable band 5 (AT&T) and possibly new band 12 (for T-mobile, for re-sale value in the future).
Any other bands enabled also depends on the antenna(s) in the phone. However, we KNOW this phone (XT1225) had band 5 enabled when it went through the FCC, and Motorola swears it has identical antenna to the Droid Turbo (XT1254).
Since they kept the same FCC ID number it means that when we enable band 5, it will work -- as the hardware (modem and antennas) have remained the same.
Some people have said the new LTE band 12 (for T-mobile) requires a different antenna, and this phone was never FCC tested with LTE band 12 enabled. It's entirely possibly while the band is now "enabled" on my phone, the phone would not receive LTE band 12 due to hardware (antenna) limitations. Same situation with the Europe LTE bands. But LTE band 5 is fine. We KNOW it will work with all the current hardware.
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The Nexus 6 (for North America), however, has all these:
LTE bands: 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/25/26/29/41
So, I may just go back and enable those. I don't need Europe LTE bands. Even for those, for "North America" it would depend on stuff like antenna limitations, if Motorola put an antenna in that could use all those. However, we KNOW it will handle LTE band 5, because it passed through the FCC with it enabled. Then, when launched in Puerto Rico (with same FCC number) LTE band 3 was enabled (which is used in many Latin American countries) and not LTE band 5. This phone is being sold in a handful of Latin America countries (Puerto Rico, Mexico, Brazil and Chile). So, AFTER FCC testing, Motorola software disabled LTE band 5 and enabled LTE band 3. All I did was re-enable it.
Motorola also made some other post-FCC certification changes. They enabled quad-band GSM. When it went through the FCC, there was only two GSM bands. Again, software changes.
FCC testing (look at the GSM, not the red arrow):
Now being sold:
so i guess the band 20 LTE is impossible to unlock if the antena is limited?
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so i guess the band 20 LTE is impossible to unlock if the antena is limited?
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I'm actually optimistic you can send/receive on LTE band 20, if enabled. I'm just throwing out a cautionary note.
Enabling in software does not overcome hardware (antenna) limitations. However, I do not know what antenna(s) Moto put in this phone. Except it's the same antenna as in the Droid Turbo. If you can receive LTE band 13 (Turbo) and LTE band 17 (Moto Maxx) and LTE band 5 (FCC testing of the Moto Maxx), which are all in similar frequency ranges as band 20, you might can send/receive on band 20 too.
Go look at this chart.
http://niviuk.free.fr/lte_band.php
Just a note. Just because the value sticks after a reboot in qpst doesn't mean the bands are enabled. I tried to do the exact sam thing with band 17 on the droid turbo so it would work on at&t. I followed all the steps and put my Sim card in. I live in an area with band 17 LTE support. After a reboot I still didn't have LTE on band 17 even though I enabled it and the value stuck. The only real way to tell if the bands are unlocked and working is to test them in an area that uses that band after you change the value. Just wanted people to know that I tried this for the turbo and it didn't work. If anyone knows why else mivht make it work I'm open to trying it as I have a turbo and a moto maxx.
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so i guess the band 20 LTE is impossible to unlock if the antena is limited?
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I would speculate that you're correct. Neither Mexico or Brazil use band 20 and (like the Nexus 5) Google brought out a US model and RotW model for the final Nexus 6. Assuming the Turbo/Maxx was chosen instead to be the Nexus 6, I believe the same approach would be used.
That won't stop me from trying to unlock 20 when my Maxx arrives though!
ChazzMatt said:
I'm actually optimistic you can send/receive on LTE band 20, if enabled. I'm just throwing out a cautionary note.
Enabling in software does not overcome hardware (antenna) limitations. However, I do not know what antenna(s) Moto put in this phone. Except it's the same antenna as in the Droid Turbo. If you can receive LTE band 13 (Turbo) and LTE band 17 (Moto Maxx) and LTE band 5 (FCC testing of the Moto Maxx), which are all in similar frequency ranges as band 20, you might can send/receive on band 20 too.
Go look at this chart.
http://niviuk.free.fr/lte_band.php
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Maybe we have same antena like the Nexus 6,but with american limitation for LTE CDMA and Gsm
we need to test it more
we make a big step with @ChazzMatt being able to conect it to the programs and changed the values
i need my Maxx to test it too and see if we are able to unlock it for real.
some users says that they changed and enabled the missing bands,but the phone still not reconigze the LTE 4G and goes to H+.
Question for Chazz
"Only when I got the modem to be recognized, was I able to move forward. This same thread has an addendum for Moto phones, which helped tremendously as a few steps differ from the other brand being discussed."
Chazz I cant seem to find the addendum- can you please point me to the right place? I cannot get my modem recognized...
thanks,
AC
aaronc_98 said:
"Only when I got the modem to be recognized, was I able to move forward. This same thread has an addendum for Moto phones, which helped tremendously as a few steps differ from the other brand being discussed."
Chazz I cant seem to find the addendum- can you please point me to the right place? I cannot get my modem recognized...
thanks,
AC
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Sure. I can send the link tomorrow, I'm away from computer tonight. But the first post has over 30 steps . The "Moto" addendum, is a few pages into that thread, and replaces steps 7-14, for Motorola phones. Then the guy says do the rest of the steps after that from the first page.
ChazzMatt said:
Sure. I can send the link tomorrow, I'm away from computer tonight. But the first post has over 30 steps . The "Moto" addendum, is a few pages into that thread, and replaces steps 7-14, for Motorola phones. Then the guy says do the rest of the steps after that from the first page.
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ok- so I believe that I found the MOTO reference, but it was a bit of a bear to get configured none the less. I am not 100% sure how to post a quote from another thread so here goes - http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...m-updating-t2871269/post58081304#post58081304
The most important step is that I had to go to bootloader and do BP Tools on each re-boot. I will write a short add-on if I can find the time. But I believe that I was able to unlock band 12 for t-mo as I am in Minneapolis and band 12 has rolled out here. I have not been able to confirm from my house, but I will as soon as I can...
thank you
AC
aaronc_98 said:
ok- so I believe that I found the MOTO reference, but it was a bit of a bear to get configured none the less. I am not 100% sure how to post a quote from another thread so here goes - http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...m-updating-t2871269/post58081304#post58081304
The most important step is that I had to go to bootloader and do BP Tools on each re-boot. I will write a short add-on if I can find the time. But I believe that I was able to unlock band 12 for t-mo as I am in Minneapolis and band 12 has rolled out here. I have not been able to confirm from my house, but I will as soon as I can...
thank you
AC
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Well, I have not been able to receive Band 12 LTE on my Maxx yet. Band 4 is the only one so far. Does anybody know a way to force band 12? I suppose that I could back and turn off band 4 in the software, but it is working pretty well... Ideas?
thanks,
AC
aaronc_98 said:
Well, I have not been able to receive Band 12 LTE on my Maxx yet. Band 4 is the only one so far. Does anybody know a way to force band 12? I suppose that I could back and turn off band 4 in the software, but it is working pretty well... Ideas?
thanks,
AC
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I programmed it so only band 12 is active and i could NOT get LTE on my MAXX. I am not 100% certain that I have active band 12 in minneapolis where I am, but they announced that it was active here sometime ago. I assume that we must not have the hardware to support band 12 or this software is not able to enable, but it seems that ChazzMatt has confirmed that band 5 is active for ATT. Hopefully, someone can prove me wrong...
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I am interested in getting a Moto Maxx from Mexico but want to make sure that everything works perfect on Tmobile for the US. I had issues with Droid Maxx from verizon on Tmobile and dont want same issues. Has anyone actually done this and if so, whats the result?
Yes, many running this Moto Maxx phone on T-mobile. It has LTE bands 2, 4 which are T-mobile's main LTE bands. In some markets T-mobile is also now using LTE band 12, but you probably won't miss it.
Also has GSM and HSPA bands too, of course.
If you order from Mexico, that phone is already unlocked for all networks the hardware can handle. If you order from Puerto Rico, make sure it's SIM unlocked by the seller or that he gives you the code. In Puerto Rico, sold by Claro and comes SIM locked. I have both Puerto Rico and Mexican Moto Maxx phones. The Puerto Rico eBay seller already unlocked the phone before he sent it to me.
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I am interested in getting a Moto Maxx from Mexico but want to make sure that everything works perfect on Tmobile for the US. I had issues with Droid Maxx from verizon on Tmobile and dont want same issues. Has anyone actually done this and if so, whats the result?
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Works fine for me. Supports all of the bands (except LTE 12) out of the box. The only phones that currently support band 12 are the Note 4 and the note edge AFAIK. Some have enabled band 12 (which the snapdragon supports) but have not been able to get a signal (likely because there is no antenna that can pull it in). None of the issues that people have reported with other Droid phones (drops to H+ and won't reconnect to LTE etc. Call someone or they call you and it drops to H and then connects right back to LTE after.
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Works fine for me. Supports all of the bands (except LTE 12) out of the box. The only phones that currently support band 12 are the Note 4 and the note edge AFAIK. Some have enabled band 12 (which the snapdragon supports) but have not been able to get a signal (likely because there is no antenna that can pull it in). None of the issues that people have reported with other Droid phones (drops to H+ and won't reconnect to LTE etc. Call someone or they call you and it drops to H and then connects right back to LTE after.
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My Experience Exactly as well here in MN- almost always on LTE
That T-Mobile LTE-capable phone in MN is the one from Mexico, correct? Because the Puerto Rican dealer responded to my specific question and told me the "4G" on their model only uses HSPA+ in the U.S., not LTE.
GeodudeFFP said:
That T-Mobile LTE-capable phone in MN is the one from Mexico, correct? Because the Puerto Rican dealer responded to my specific question and told me the "4G" on their model only uses HSPA+ in the U.S., not LTE.
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Mexican Moto maxx and Puerto Rico Moto maxx are the same and they work perfectly with LTE At&t and t-mobile on the states.
GeodudeFFP said:
That T-Mobile LTE-capable phone in MN is the one from Mexico, correct? Because the Puerto Rican dealer responded to my specific question and told me the "4G" on their model only uses HSPA+ in the U.S., not LTE.
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I have both Puerto Rico and Mexico Moto Maxx phones. YES, I own two. They both have LTE.
The dealer that gave you that answer is ignorant of what he is actually selling. Even the Puerto Rico Motorola website lists the specs that show the LTE bands.
http://www.motorola.com.pr/consumer...oto-Maxx/moto-maxx-pr.html#moto-maxx-specs-pr
Note this is Motorola.com.PR (for Puerto Rico).
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Yes, I'm aware of the spec's, etc. But I've yet to hear confirmation from anyone that full-blown 4G LTE is currently fully functional with their T-Mobile-connected Moto Maxx in the U.S. (specifically, MN). Remember...regardless of the phone spec's, the provider can also block it (a guy at Best Buy told me LTE was blocked in this case due to Verizon exclusivity agreements).
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Yes, I'm aware of the spec's, etc. But I've yet to hear confirmation from anyone that full-blown 4G LTE is currently fully functional with their T-Mobile-connected Moto Maxx in the U.S. (specifically, MN). Remember...regardless of the phone spec's, the provider can also block it (a guy at Best Buy told me LTE was blocked in this case due to Verizon exclusivity agreements).
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Verizon cannot block either of my Moto Maxx phones on AT&T or T-mobile. Now you are talking gibberish.
Many, many T-mobile customers have said they are using the Moto Maxx on T-mobile LTE. For some reason you don't want to believe them.
I don't know what "MN" has to do with it. T-mobile's main LTE bands are LTE band 2 and LTE band 4. If T-mobile is using LTE bands 2 and 4 in your area, the Moto Maxx will connect to them. The Moto Maxx is unlocked and now you are listening to idiots at Best Buy? I own two, they own none. They know NOTHING about the Moto Maxx, OK?
Verizon has NOTHING to do with T-mobile's or AT&T's LTE bands and NOTHING to do with the Moto Maxx working on LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 (which the Moto Maxx does). Arghhh.
I have two Moto Maxx and am using one of them on AT&T right now, LTE bands 2 and 17. Verizon has nothing to do with my phone. OK? Verizon can't block it, they can't sneeze at it, they can't even see it.
Do you want to see my AT&T LTE speed tests?
Take my word for it, those aren't HSPA speeds. Something else gives it away -- the LTE indicator in the status bar.
Do you want to see me connected to AT&T LTE band 2?
There's no difference in me being connected to LTE band 2 on AT&T and you being connected to LTE band 2 on T-mobile in your area.
You can see how many different LTE cell towers I have connected to over the past few days...
Eight AT&T LTE band 2 cell towers and five AT&T LTE band 17 cell towers. (AT&T uses LTE band 2 and 17 in the metro Atlanta area. ) Across the nation AT&T uses LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17. So, if I travel elsewhere, the app log would show more LTE bands. But I've proven my point.
T-mobile uses LTE bands 2, 4, and now 12. You stick a T-mobile sim card in the Moto Maxx and you WILL connect to T-mobile's LTE network if there's a tower within range transmitting LTE band 2 or 4.
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And LAST but most important, this Moto Maxx phone has been certified by the FCC to operate in the U.S. and U.S. territories on OTHER providers (not Verizon). Motorola even promised the FCC this phone especially had LTE bands 2 and 4, even though the FCC found more bands. But especially LTE bands 2 and 4 HAVE TO WORK IN THE USA.
The Droid Turbo has a different FCC ID number. And the Moto Maxx does not have CDMA bands enabled so it's NOT for Verizon, but yet has been certified for usage in the USA and USA territories. I don't know how much more I have to say.
This is what the FCC actually found, during testing and certification.
But the point is, the Moto Maxx (XT1225) phone is approved for use in the USA. Verizon has nothing to do with this phone, and has no control over how this phone is used on non-Verizon networks (GMS/HSPA/LTE). I have no idea why you think they would.
SAME FCC ID. So, what Motorola told the FCC has to stay in place.
I just received my moto maxx yesterday and I can tell you I have 4G on T-Mobile. I live in las vegas and have speeds of 18 mbps. Those speeds are from inside my home where my signal is notoriously crappy. Some people have mentioned that they are unable to browse Internet while on the phone but I can do that just fine. Text, mms, call and internet all work as they should with zero complaints.
creamycaesar1 said:
I just received my moto maxx yesterday and I can tell you I have 4G on T-Mobile. I live in las vegas and have speeds of 18 mbps. Those speeds are from inside my home where my signal is notoriously crappy. Some people have mentioned that they are unable to browse Internet while on the phone but I can do that just fine. Text, mms, call and internet all work as they should with zero complaints.
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Tell him you have LTE and not "4G" and he'll be happy. LTE is the only real 4G anyway, but AT&T and T-mobile engaged in so much false advertising with HSPA being called "4G" that people are confused.
But apps like LTE Discovery show how you are connected and signal strength. Also Xposed/Gravity Box gives you the option to display "LTE" when you are connected to LTE network.
Of course over 50mbps download speed with 39ms ping time IS LTE. You don't need the status bar indicator to tell you that.
Actually I just downloaded lte discovery and it says I am on lte band 4 specifically. I hope this helps.
Thanks all. I knew I was on band 4 so I knew it *SHOULD* work, but creamyceasar1 gave me the *CONFIRMATION* that I was looking for...thanks! That's exactly what I needed. But again, thanks to all.
Now I just need to figure out if I want to spend >$500 on a new phone with 4.4 and without OIS for its camera, especially since phones with 5.0 and Snapdragon 810's are due within a month (despite the supposed "issues" of the 810...and yeah, I know the Maxx will get 5.0 soon, but its upgrade "life" will be shorter).
yes
creamycaesar1 said:
I am interested in getting a Moto Maxx from Mexico but want to make sure that everything works perfect on Tmobile for the US. I had issues with Droid Maxx from verizon on Tmobile and dont want same issues. Has anyone actually done this and if so, whats the result?
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yes.
So does the moto maxx not work on Verizon in the U.S.?
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So does the moto maxx not work on Verizon in the U.S.?
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The XT1250 does, not the XT1225. There's two Moto Maxx models, one sold in the U.S. on other CDMA/LTE carriers. One sold internationally with just GSM/HSPA/LTE.
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The XT1250 does, not the XT1225. There's two Moto Maxx models, one sold in the U.S. on other CDMA/LTE carriers. One sold internationally with just GSM/HSPA/LTE.
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Is the 1250 rootable?
Broadley1 said:
Is the 1250 rootable?
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One owner says yes.
Because it has unlockable boot loader.
ChazzMatt said:
One owner says yes.
Because it has unlockable boot loader.
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Where could I purchase one??
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So does the moto maxx not work on Verizon in the U.S.?
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The XT1250 does, not the XT1225. There's two Moto Maxx models, one sold in the U.S. on other CDMA/LTE carriers. One sold internationally with just GSM/HSPA/LTE.
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Broadley1 said:
Is the 1250 rootable?
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ChazzMatt said:
One owner says yes.
Because it has unlockable boot loader.
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Broadley1 said:
Where could I purchase one?
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I listed several regional CDMA/LTE carriers in this thread who sell the XT1250 "Moto Maxx", which is identical to the XT1254 (Verizon Droid Turbo) except for carrier-specific software. Even has the exact same FCC ID. There may be others. I stopped at half a dozen.
See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58788122&postcount=177
and more carriers here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58865000&postcount=197
NOTE: Even though one carrier has a 64GB version listed, an XDA member contacted them and apparently all they are selling is the 32GB version. Again, the carriers in the two posts above are not complete. I used my knowledge of the cellphone industry to go through smaller CDMA/LTE carriers (actual facilities-based carriers, not MVNOs), went to their websites and looked at the devices they sold. I knew the XT1250 Moto Maxx (non-Verizon "Quark" for U.S. carriers) existed, and once I found a Wisconsin-based carrier, I knew there would be more. When I got to 5 or 6, I stopped.
More info:
zoaguy said:
I ran through the unlocking process and it appears the XT1250 is unlockable. I did not pull the trigger yet to get the code from Motorola, since accepting the agreement immediately binds me to the agreement, however, it does give me the "Request unlock code" button after entering my unlock data, so it appears to be legit.
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zoaguy said:
FWIW, I can tell you I did try a Verizon SIM in this phone (XT1250) with very minimal testing and it did appear to function just fine.
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Even more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58976758&postcount=36
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...xed-topics-t3032371/post58973737#post58973737
Both Moto Maxx models (XT1250, XT1225) and the "Droid Turbo" XT1254 (Verizon's name for it) are all Motorola "Quark" phones with identical hardware. The XT1250 and XT1254 are both U.S.-sold CDMA/GSM/HSPA/LTE model -- with the same FCC ID.
The XT1225 has no CDMA and slightly different LTE bands (with some overlap). It has a different FCC ID.
XT1225 and XT1254:
XT1250:
OK, so I have searched around in these forums, found the thread where some people were able to unlock some bands for the MOTO MAXX XT1225. However, I just want to verify before I return the hastily bought Droid Turbo from Verzion (XT1254): has anyone had success unlocking LTE Band 17 to use on AT&T here in the states? Right now, it's the only issue I have with the device. I get HSPA+ no problem, phone calls, etc but LTE eludes me. I live in Durham, NC and I verified on my old phone that I use band 17 for LTE.
Yes, I know I should've researched more but hey, some guy on youtube said it works and apparently thats all I need to buy a phone. (Especially at the decent price of $550 for the 32GB)
This is job for @ChazzMatt and his knowledge of bands
There is no proof I have seen of being able to enable any extra bands on any of the Quark series. The only bands I have seen confirmed to work are the ones already enabled in the phone.
Based on FCC info there is no reason to believe the XT1254 supports band 17 LTE. I am quite sure there is nothing you can do to enable it. The XT1254 and XT1225 do share band 2 and 4 LTE hardware but the rest of the LTE hardware is different.
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There is no proof I have seen of being able to enable any extra bands on any of the Quark series. The only bands I have seen confirmed to work are the ones already enabled in the phone.
Based on FCC info there is no reason to believe the XT1254 supports band 17 LTE. I am quite sure there is nothing you can do to enable it. The XT1254 and XT1225 do share band 2 and 4 LTE hardware but the rest of the LTE hardware is different.
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Yeah, other phones have had LTE and HSPA bands enabled, but usually it was bands which are enabled in the same device in other regions -- like Galaxy S5 European bands for USA or vice versa. The modem and firmware supports those bands, but Samsung had certain bands locked down or enabled, depending on where the phone was sold.
People have been unable to enable European LTE band 20 on the Moto Maxx XT1225 because no Quark phone has that band anywhere.
HOWEVER, LTE band 17 is enabled in all XT1225 Quark phones... so could LTE band 17 be enabled in the XT1250 (U.S. CDMA/LTE Moto Maxx/XT1254 (Droid Turbo) ? Theoretically, is possible, but I'm not going to say yes.
I delved into all this deeply months ago to try to enable LTE band 5 on the XT1225 -- since it was found by FCC certification tests, but Motorola didn't list in the Latin America specs when released. Then, after doing a whole bunch of work and confirming with the NV calculator dev, LTE band 5 was already enabled as was HSPA band 4 (for T-mobile). So, while knowledge is always useful, all my work was not necessary.
When the Moto Turbo XT1225 was released (same model number, same FCC ID, same SKU), Motorola FINALLY listed all the bands that are enabled.
@Steve-x is correct. Up to this point in time, no one has enabled LTE bands that are not already enabled. Still, LTE band 17 is theoretically possible since all the Quarks share the same Snapdragon 805 modem, and some do have LTE band 17.
In a similar way, many many people have enabled LTE band 3 on the Nexus 5 D820 and enabled LTE bands 2 and 4 on the Nexus 5 D821. I'm going to do that soon for my wife's Nexus 5, as we are going to Brazil this summer.
[Radio] Enable LTE Band 3 and 8 on D820 and LTE Band 2 and 4 on D821
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/radio-enable-lte-band-3-nexus-5-d820-t2928561
Google has two Nexus 5 phones, with different FCC ID, different bands enabled due to being sold in different parts of the world. People have been able to enable LTE bands Google locked down.
MORE:
[GUIDE] Add all GSM and LTE bands to your phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
[GUIDE] UNLOCK ADITIONAL BANDS FOR QUALCOMM DEVICES <OnePlus One EDITION>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guide-unlock-aditional-bands-qualcomm-t2877031
Unlock all bands of your Qualcomm device! Use your phone globally! No bs!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
Thanks for the help guys. After thinking about it some more, if I wasn't paying full retail out of pocket and I didn't have a special return window with Verizon, I'd probably give this a shot.
XT1250 on AT&T LTE Band 17
It seems the XT1250 and XT1254 are counterparts -- I just purchased a XT1250 thinking Band 17 was enabled, but only getting HPSA+ and no LTE.
Any luck, thoughts, etc on this lately?
THANKS
KeepingItCuttingEdge said:
It seems the XT1250 and XT1254 are counterparts -- I just purchased a XT1250 thinking Band 17 was enabled, but only getting HPSA+ and no LTE.
Any luck, thoughts, etc on this lately?
THANKS
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Not "counterparts", identical devices. The XT1250 (U.S. Moto Maxx) = XT1254 (Droid Turbo). Same FCC ID, same bands, same exact device. Since the XT1254 does not have LTE band 17, neither does the XT1250. The XT1250 is basically the dev version of the XT1254, with unlockable bootloader via Motorola website like the other Quarks.
While all the Quarks share the same hardware, including antenna, the radios are different. The XT1225 has a different FCC ID because it does have different radio.
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The XT1250/XT1254 has CDMA bands which the XT1225 does not have or need. The XT1225 has more HSPA bands, different mix of LTE bands and more LTE bands. All Quarks share LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7. But the XT1250/XT1254 has LTE band 13, while the XT1225 has LTE bands 5 & 17, plus more HSPA bands.
Hello folks,
Recently I entertained the idea of picking up the Droid Turbo and using it on the AT&T network. Everything that I read stated that one could expected to achieve HSPA or HSPA+ at best. I decided to test this and went ahead and dropped $100 down on a used Turbo courtesy of Craigslist. To my surprise, I have been able to achieve the most rock solid and incredibly fast LTE connection! See the image below for proof!
If you have questions, that I may be able to answer, please let me know! With all of this being said, for those considering picking this phone up and using it with AT&T, don't wait any longer. It is awesome!
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not news you can use Droid Turbo on AT&T LTE
iraqmilner said:
Hello folks,
Recently I entertained the idea of picking up the Droid Turbo and using it on the AT&T network.
Everything that I read stated that one could expected to achieve HSPA or HSPA+ at best.
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That's not true and many, many people on here are using AT&T and T-mobile. You did NOT do a lot of reading and research, especially here on XDA! You couldn't have. Many, many people in this forum have been using the Droid Turbo on AT&T and T-mobile since it went on sale in 2014. Any cursory investigation shows LTE bands compatible with SOME of AT&T's bands and ALL of Verizon's LTE phones are network unlocked by order of the FCC.
The Droid Turbo XT1254 has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13.
AT&T uses LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17.
So, of course you can use the Droid Turbo XT1254 on SOME of AT&T's LTE bands. Just not all of them!
Here's a YouTube video from November 2014 (soon after the phone was released):
Droid Turbo working on Sprint, AT&T, T-mobile & more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDs--1vVuBE
screenshot from that video:
ALSO:
How to Use the Motorola Droid Turbo on Other Carriers (November 2014)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK5gdPXClUk
How to use the Droid Turbo with any SIM card and GSM network (November 2014)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFZbJWqNRKs
and discussed on XDA a lot. You sure didn't check here!
Any Verizon Turbo users on AT&T?
willwalk93 said:
Well, apparently, it does work with LTE. Also, @ChazzMatt, apparently there is LTE band 2 in Atlanta. I got full LTE signal on W Peachtree today. So that's good news.
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Stanleywinthrop said:
I've been using my droid turbo on Cricket (AT&T MVNO) for several months now. During that time AT&T has been rolling out band 4 in my area, so I've been getting more LTE than I expected on this phone. Unlocking Band 17 would be ideal however.
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Some other threads:
help with a Droid turbo on AT&T
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/help-droid-turbo-att-t3315717
[Q] Turbo on AT&T Cricket
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/turbo-cricket-t3108577
But it's old news so we don't discuss it much anymore.
The problem you will have is in cities like Atlanta, GA where I live where AT&T uses LTE band 17 a lot. In places like that you will have HSPA/HSPA+. In areas where AT&T uses LTE bands 2 and 4 you will be OK. In northern part of Georgia when I drive to Chattanooga, that's mostly LTE band 4.
AT&T uses LTE band 5 very sparsely, and even then mostly (not always, but mostly) to supplement other LTE bands due to congestion. There are very few standalone AT&T LTE band 5 areas, where other bands are not also in use. So, for AT&T you mostly need a phone with LTE bands 2, 4, 17.
You have a phone -- the Droid Turbo XT1254 -- with two of those bands: LTE bands 2 & 4.
I have the sibling Quark, the Moto XT1225 -- so I have all of AT&T's LTE bands.
Get the LTE Discovery app. It will show you what bands you are using. You'll never see LTE band 17 unless someone figures out a way to unlock LTE bands 5 and 17 on the Droid Turbo XT1254 (theoretically possible since all Quarks have the same hardware and same antennas).
As long as you stay in places AT&T uses LTE bands 2 & 4, you will get LTE. IF you drop down to HSPA, it's probably because you are in an LTE band 17 area or just crappy LTE signal in general.
The XT1225 and XT1254/XT1250 all share LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7.
The XT1225 additionally has LTE band 5 and 17 (more bands used by AT&T).
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The XT1254/XT1250 instead has LTE band 13 (Verizon LTE band), plus CDMA bands. While it does have some HSPA bands, there's not as many as in the XT1225.
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Bwahahaha! Wow! Thanks for the information, for one. Second, there is a lot of misinformation on the Internet and it requires a filter to determine what is and isn't truth. This thread was to eliminate the need to weed through the nonsense and provide simple to locate information. Last of all, get a life brother and learn some manners. I'm looking right at you!
ChazzMatt said:
That's not true and many, many people on here are using AT&T. You did NOT do a lot of reading and research, especially here on XDA! You couldn't have. Many, many people have been using the Droid Turbo on AT&T since it went on sale in 2014. Any cursory investigation shows LTE bands compatible with SOME of AT&T's bands and ALL of Verizon's LTE phones are network unlocked by order of the FCC.
Here's a YouTube video from 2014
Droid Turbo working on sprint att t-mobile & more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDs--1vVuBE
and discussed on XDA a lot. You sure didn't check here!
Any Verizon Turbo users on AT&T?
[/B]AT&T uses LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17.
The Droid Turbo XT1254 has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13.
The problem you will have is in cities like Atlanta, GA where I live that use LTE band 17 a lot. In places like that you will have HSPA/HSPA+. In areas where AT&T uses LTE bands 2 and 4 you will be OK. In northern part of Georgia when I drive to Chattanooga, that's mostly LTE band 4.
AT&T uses LTE band 5 very sparsely, and even then mostly (not always but mostly) to supplement other LTE bands due to congestion.
Get the LTE Discovery app. It will show you what bands you are using. As long as you stay in places AT&T uses LTE bands 2 & 4, you will get LTE. IF you drop down to HSPA, it's probably because you are in an LTE band 17 area.
One guy @willwalk93 who lives in Atlanta like me was very happy initially, then said he sure wished he could "unlock" LTE band 17 (since all the Quarks share the same hardware and same antenna). I have the sibling Quark, the Moto XT1225 so I have all of AT&T's LTE bands.
The XT1225 and XT1254/XT1250 all share LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7.
The XT1225 additionally has LTE band 5 and 17 (more bands used by AT&T).
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The XT1254/XT1250 instead has LTE band 13 (Verizon LTE band), plus CDMA bands. While it does have some HSPA bands, there's not as many as in the XT1225.
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iraqmilner said:
Bwahahaha! Wow! Thanks for the information, for one. Second, there is a lot of misinformation on the Internet and it requires a filter to determine what is and isn't truth. This thread was to eliminate the need to weed through the nonsense and provide simple to locate information.
Last of all, get a life brother and learn some manners. I'm looking right at you!
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And I'm looking right at you! You posted in a forum that had all the information you needed and didn't even look.
Go back and post on any sites where you found misinformation, because it sure wasn't here.
ChazzMatt said:
And I'm looking right at you! You posed in a forum that had all the information you needed and didn't even look.
Go back and post on the sites where you found misinformation, because it wasn't here.
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XDA is great! No doubt about it. I wasn't implying that it is anything but. Just providing information in an easier to find capacity. Have a good day!
Hi there. Is there any possibility to use Droid Turbo on RingPlus (Sprint MVNO). CDMA would be enough for me.