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hi really want the new droid 4 coming out but im going to uk in a couple of weeks and just want to know if it will be realeased in the UK or Australia and will the U S version work in Australia
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will motorola droid 4 work in uk or aus?
will motorola droid 4 also work in hk??
tangbin said:
I think the title sure is..
will motorola droid 4 work in uk or aus?
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Is that better or is there a problem
GSMArena have it listed as supporting 900/2100MHz UMTS 3G. That means Optus/Voafone/Virgin in Australia, all UK networks, and any UMTS provider in Hong Kong except NTT DoCoMo.
In my experience, GSMArena usually f*ck up their frequency listings a lot.
It would be a huge departure for Verizon to make their new world phones 900/2100MHz when ALL the other world phones they've released are 850/1900/2100. Plus it would make the majority of their roaming agreements with partners useless.
I think it's pretty safe to say it will be at least 850/1900, perhaps 850/1900/2100. That means if your network uses 900MHz you're out of luck.
EDIT: Old thread, sorry. Have no idea why this one popped up!
plktom123 said:
will motorola droid 4 also work in hk??
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you are from hk?? me too.
Droid 4 can be working in hk because it is a cdma/gsm device, BUT verizon has locked down the gsm.
so basically, it wont work
DROID 4 is not a GLOBAL phone. It will only work on Verizon network.
ifixit's teardown has a chip identification:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Droid-4-Teardown/7759/2
Has a Qualcomm MDM6600 chip:
from wikipedia:
MDM6600™:
Multi-mode modem
HSPA+ with data rates of up to 14.4 Mbit/s
CDMA2000® 1xEV-DO Rev. A/Rev. B support
GPS functionality, including support for Assisted GPS
I'm out of my element here, but that suggests global capability....as to whether it can actually be used, I haven't a clue.
Found some info here http://www.gobi.com/resources#Documentation
Specifically the Gobi3000 product sheet http://www.gobi.com/sites/default/files/Gobi3000r4.pdf
It seems like the chipset can support everything, but CDMA and GSM support are in two separate firmware images. Also even if the chipset has support, there's no guarantee that the requisite antennas and such are connected. But I've already read a few places that Motorola/Verizon plans to enable global roaming with a firmware update in the future, so I'd guess the hardware support is already in place.
The doc doesn't list support for 1700MHz AWS in the frequency list, but it does say "Prepared for UMTS-AWS" which implies that it could be supported with additional tweaks. So probably no US T-Mobile 3G support out of the box, dunno.
Hi,
i'm from italy, anyone know if motorola & verizon release Droid 4 for Europe ( milestone 4 ) with all gsm band? same the droid 1 and 2 released for EU with name milestone 1 and 2.
i read some rumors about a possible declaration of milestone 4 on Mobile World Congress 2012.
thnx
crazyman321 said:
hi really want the new droid 4 coming out but im going to uk in a couple of weeks and just want to know if it will be realeased in the UK or Australia and will the U S version work in Australia
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I'm not sure, but the Droid 4 does use a GSM Sim, and that would make me think that you could pic up a Sim in country and put it in your phone. I mean if you don't have to unlock your phone first.
I'm interested in this one too!
My carrier uses 900 and 2100mhz for hsdpa...
Apparently, the Droid 4 will have GSM roaming eventually.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/12/2...-and-lg-spectrum-will-have-global-gsm-roaming
There are a lot of possible show stoppers.
First, I don't think that this was an official VZW statement.
And, even if they will make GSM/HSPA work, it's unclear if and how SIM unlocking will work.
Let's see how it will work out with the xyboard tablets ...
The problem is D4 has dedicated LTE radio now which requires SIM card. My guess ia the Verizon's SIM is only compatible with their own network and can't do roaming just yet. Issue could not be technical at all. To be safe they decided to lock down GSM/HSPA radio for now. Once they figure out how their SIM cards can roam properly on other providers, they will likely push OTA update to enable the HSPA settings.
Verizon doesn't care if we want to use another sim card. Will likely make everything possible to prevent us from doing so. They however want their clients to pay for roaming badly. I am sure the matter will be resolved as this is a big revenue point for them.
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Yeah, LTE uses GSM... there is no CDMA LTE connection which is why all the 4g phones have GSM frequency capability, but Verizon has them on a tight lock. It is possible for them to allow you to use in certain GSM areas but I don't think they would unlock it to be used with any other service.
thomaslau said:
Droid 4 can be working in hk because it is a cdma/gsm device, BUT verizon has locked down the gsm.
so basically, it wont work
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The challenge isn't the hardware, but rather that the Droid 4 is a Verizon exclusive currently.
Thomas is correct; the radios have more flexibility than Verizon has allowed it. They have announced that sometime this year they will enable global roaming for the phone via their networks, which to me says firmware push.
I am hopeful that Moto will eventually release a GSM-friendly unlocked version, a la the Milestone vs the original Droid.
I am in South Korea and will be moving to the UK soon.
I have the SU600 on SKT in Korea. It is rooted and I'm running Kangs CM on 4.0.3.
If I buy a UK sim card when I arrive, will the phone work fine for calls/messaging/data? I looked on gsmarena and the 2G frequencies seem to match up. But the 3G on the phone is HSDPA, but GSM arena says the UK needs UMTS 2100. Will it still work?
Would I need to get it unlocked in Korea before I leave?
Thank you
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I am in South Korea and will be moving to the UK soon.
I have the SU600 on SKT in Korea. It is rooted and I'm running Kangs CM on 4.0.3.
If I buy a UK sim card when I arrive, will the phone work fine for calls/messaging/data? I looked on gsmarena and the 2G frequencies seem to match up. But the 3G on the phone is HSDPA, but GSM arena says the UK needs UMTS 2100. Will it still work?
Would I need to get it unlocked in Korea before I leave?
Thank you
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From my experience, having a custom rom is effectively same as having a sim unlocked phone. So based on what you wrote, I have every expectation that you'll successfully use at least the 2g network in UK.
I bought my su660 in Korea too and now I am using it in the US. It turned out, however, that I cannot use the 3g hspa network here with T-Mobile because they require phones having both 1900 & 2100 bands. So I am stuck with just 2G for now.
So I would do careful research on what bands UK operators use before you head on over, especially if you really need 3g speed and if you are not planning on buying another phone anytime soon. I hope you will be in better luck than me.
Bon voyage and good luck!
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aragorn7 said:
From my experience, having a custom rom is effectively same as having a sim unlocked phone. So based on what you wrote, I have every expectation that you'll successfully use at least the 2g network in UK.
I bought my su660 in Korea too and now I am using it in the US. It turned out, however, that I cannot use the 3g hspa network here with T-Mobile because they require phones having both 1900 & 2100 bands. So I am stuck with just 2G for now.
So I would do careful research on what bands UK operators use before you head on over, especially if you really need 3g speed and if you are not planning on buying another phone anytime soon. I hope you will be in better luck than me.
Bon voyage and good luck!
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You are wrong sim unlock has nothing to do with root/custom ROM. He has to unlock the SIM before.
And to unlock you need a STOCK LG ROM, froyo or gingerbread, as it needs lge hidden menu which isn't present in custom ROMs.
I unlocked last week I had to reflash a froyo LG Stock ROM.
Some people say that putting a SIM card from a different network pops up the unlock option at boot but couldn't try.
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You are wrong sim unlock has nothing to do with root/custom ROM. He has to unlock the SIM before.
And to unlock you need a STOCK LG ROM, froyo or gingerbread, as it needs lge hidden menu which isn't present in custom ROMs.
I unlocked last week I had to reflash a froyo LG Stock ROM.
Some people say that putting a SIM card from a different network pops up the unlock option at boot but couldn't try.
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Thanks for pointing that out. I guess mine must have been already sim unlocked when I bought it cuz sim unlock menu never came up for me.
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aragorn7 said:
Thanks for pointing that out. I guess mine must have been already sim unlocked when I bought it cuz sim unlock menu never came up for me.
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I imported an ATT Atrix for using in Mexico with Telcel Carrier, and when I first inserted the Telcel Sim Card, the Sim Unlock Menu popped. So yes, maybe your Optimux 2x is already unlocked.
Anyway, you can unlock your phone anytime and in anyplace. Just insert a sim card from another Carrier Company and the option should be showed.
Wirwing said:
I imported an ATT Atrix for using in Mexico with Telcel Carrier, and when I first inserted the Telcel Sim Card, the Sim Unlock Menu popped. So yes, maybe your Optimux 2x is already unlocked.
Anyway, you can unlock your phone anytime and in anyplace. Just insert a sim card from another Carrier Company and the option should be showed.
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Cool, I will check the SIM unlock then.
How about the frequencies it uses?
According to gsmarena the SU660 has 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 3G Network HSDPA
The UK frequencies for 2G are Required GSM 900. Recommended GSM 900 and GSM 1800. and 3G Required UMTS 2100.
I'm guessing that this means the 2G will work, but 3G won't? Can someone tell me if this is correct, I don't fully understand what it means with the SU660 having HSDPA. Is this a different to UMTS??
Hsdpa is UMTS.
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sneezemeat said:
Cool, I will check the SIM unlock then.
How about the frequencies it uses?
According to gsmarena the SU660 has 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 3G Network HSDPA
The UK frequencies for 2G are Required GSM 900. Recommended GSM 900 and GSM 1800. and 3G Required UMTS 2100.
I'm guessing that this means the 2G will work, but 3G won't? Can someone tell me if this is correct, I don't fully understand what it means with the SU660 having HSDPA. Is this a different to UMTS??
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GSM arena has insufficient info. Check out http://www.phonegg.com/compare/27/LG-Optimus-2X-vs-LG-Optimus-2X-SU660.html
From what I see there and what you described about UK operators, it seems like you will be able to use 3g.
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aragorn7 said:
GSM arena has insufficient info. Check out http://www.phonegg.com/compare/27/LG-Optimus-2X-vs-LG-Optimus-2X-SU660.html
From what I see there and what you described about UK operators, it seems like you will be able to use 3g.
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That could be a bit misleading because the 2x I have here in Australia has 2100 and 900 but no 850. 850 is used exclusively by one carrier here.
So, the link may depend on in which region the 2x is sold.
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Sorry for the OT, but can you please help us to translate some Korean statement by LG HQ? Google translator is not very good in this...
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347118
they are in the last 2 pages of this tread.
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I have an Ekit SIM card that we have used successfully for international calling when we're traveling (we're based in the US). I have used it in my old HTC Touch Pro 2 (one of Verizon's 'world phones') - put in the card, then the pin, and it connects to available GSM signals. Testing it out at my home in NC, it quickly connects to TMobile.
I have SIM unlocked my wife's Motorola Droid 3, another Verizon 'world phone' - I install the SIM, boot it up, type in the PIN which is accepted, but when it tries to connect, I get the following:
Network Error
No GSM/UMTS networks were found. Would you like to switch to the Global mode?
Is there something different about the signal bands between these 2 phones, such that my Touch Pro 2 has no problem connecting to TMobile GSM here in the US, while the Droid 3 won't? Now that I write this, I do kind of remember reading somewhere that the Droid 3 is not compatible with US GSM bands, so that might explain it.
The bigger question is will it still work outside the US? Specifically, we're going to Tanzania, by way of Amsterdam, and would like to have the option of calling home, or receiving calls from home, with my wife's Droid 3 (I retired my Touch Pro 2, and am now using the Samsung Galaxy Nexus).
We want to travel as light as possible, so would prefer not to bring an extra phone if the Droid 3 will in fact work with this SIM card when overseas.
Thanks!
Being that you have a U.S. branded DROID 3, you need to do some modifications to get it to work on GSM carriers.
Everything you need is here
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KayxGee1 said:
Being that you have a U.S. branded DROID 3, you need to do some modifications to get it to work on GSM carriers.
Everything you need is here
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Thanks for the reply - interesting link!
In my case, I don't need it work on GSM carriers in the U.S. - I just want to be confident it will work when I'm overseas.
I did a little more checking, and confirmed that (without the steps in your link) the Droid 3 would not work with US GSM carriers, so I'm reasonably confident I'll be okay when I get overseas.
Thanks again.
DLCPhoto said:
Thanks for the reply - interesting link!
In my case, I don't need it work on GSM carriers in the U.S. - I just want to be confident it will work when I'm overseas.
I did a little more checking, and confirmed that (without the steps in your link) the Droid 3 would not work with US GSM carriers, so I'm reasonably confident I'll be okay when I get overseas.
Thanks again.
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You just need the unlock code, either by contacting Verizon with an account in good standing (or a friend with one) or purchasing one by a well known code dealer (I've heard several people recommend unlock4moto). Although you did mention you already unlocked it. Just putting that there for drifters reading the thread.
After unlock, the D3 should work flawless with foreign GSM carriers, you just need to make sure to input the APNs for data if they are not provided already on the SIM. Otherwise, the phone will not connect to US GSM networks (such as T-Mobile, which is 2g only, D3 lacks the 1700MHz band for Tmo 3g), it would require a flash of the XT883 radio + build.prop... Which is actually quite quick, painless, and simple once you do it a couple times. I keep a copy of both build.props in my /system folder.
For informational purposes; the D3 supports these bands to compare to carriers;
UMTS on 850Mhz, 1900Mhz, and 2100Mhz. (Supports HSPA+ 14.4Mbps)
GSM/EDGE on 850Mhz, 900Mhz, 1800Mhz, and 1900MHz.
CDMA on 800Mhz and 1900Mhz
Stock radio gets you; Verizon in the US, unlocked for any foreign GSM network
XT883 radio gets you; No CDMA (Might work with RUIM card, SIM equiv for foreign CDMA networks/4g LTE networks) GSM anywhere, including the US.
Skreelink said:
You just need the unlock code, either by contacting Verizon with an account in good standing (or a friend with one) or purchasing one by a well known code dealer (I've heard several people recommend unlock4moto). Although you did mention you already unlocked it. Just putting that there for drifters reading the thread.
After unlock, the D3 should work flawless with foreign GSM carriers, you just need to make sure to input the APNs for data if they are not provided already on the SIM. Otherwise, the phone will not connect to US GSM networks (such as T-Mobile, which is 2g only, D3 lacks the 1700MHz band for Tmo 3g), it would require a flash of the XT883 radio + build.prop... Which is actually quite quick, painless, and simple once you do it a couple times. I keep a copy of both build.props in my /system folder.
For informational purposes; the D3 supports these bands to compare to carriers;
UMTS on 850Mhz, 1900Mhz, and 2100Mhz. (Supports HSPA+ 14.4Mbps)
GSM/EDGE on 850Mhz, 900Mhz, 1800Mhz, and 1900MHz.
CDMA on 800Mhz and 1900Mhz
Stock radio gets you; Verizon in the US, unlocked for any foreign GSM network
XT883 radio gets you; No CDMA (Might work with RUIM card, SIM equiv for foreign CDMA networks/4g LTE networks) GSM anywhere, including the US.
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Yes, I've already unlocked the SIM - got that through Verizon with no difficulty. Appreciate the other details!
Based on what I've read, and the posts here, I'll be happy to leave my Touch Pro 2 home, and the D3 should do what I need to on my trip. I actually don't need/want data on my phone out there - just wanted another option to call home when WiFi isn't available (I'll be using Skype when it is).
Thanks for the replies - told me what I needed to know!
DLCPhoto said:
Yes, I've already unlocked the SIM - got that through Verizon with no difficulty. Appreciate the other details!
Based on what I've read, and the posts here, I'll be happy to leave my Touch Pro 2 home, and the D3 should do what I need to on my trip. I actually don't need/want data on my phone out there - just wanted another option to call home when WiFi isn't available (I'll be using Skype when it is).
Thanks for the replies - told me what I needed to know!
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I hope you enjoy your romp around the globe!
Hi. Greetings to all
I'm from Malaysia, and I'm interested to buy Moto X from RW since it's cheaper than DE. And I'm sure it's locked, but does it support GSM network? On wiki it writes unknown. Before, it used to share the same column as Sprint
Thanks in advance for your answer/s!
syathibiy said:
Hi. Greetings to all
I'm from Malaysia, and I'm interested to buy Moto X from RW since it's cheaper than DE. And I'm sure it's locked, but does it support GSM network? On wiki it writes unknown. Before, it used to share the same column as Sprint
Thanks in advance for your answer/s!
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Since RW uses Sprint as its network, the Moto X you buy from them would be CDMA.
The phone is CDMA but it does have a SIM slot. So I'm wondering if it's possible to use with a GSM carrier. Or how to even root this phone.
The sim card is for the lte.
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oversteps said:
Since RW uses Sprint as its network, the Moto X you buy from them would be CDMA.
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Madblaster6 said:
The phone is CDMA but it does have a SIM slot. So I'm wondering if it's possible to use with a GSM carrier. Or how to even root this phone.
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That's the thing. Is it really CDMA? If I'm not mistaken, a CDMA phone doesn't use a SIM and doesn't even have a SIM slot. So, what's the SIM slot for? If one can put a SIM card, shouldn't it mean one can also use the GSM network? No?
https://community.republicwireless.com/docs/DOC-1652#CONNECTIVITY
Networks
CDMA (1900 and 800)/EVDO Rev. A - 4G LTE
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https://community.republicwireless.com/docs/DOC-1652#CONNECTIVITY
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Yep, noticed that when I went thru RW website. But can you explain why is there a SIM slot?
syathibiy said:
Yep, noticed that when I went thru RW website. But can you explain why is there a SIM slot?
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Sure, LTE is the reason for SIM.
CDMA is a single-band network (hence why previously you could not talk and surf the web simultaneously). In order to connect on the LTE frequency, the SIM (Subscriber Identity Module) card identifies the phone for registering on the network.
Sprint uses 850Mhz for CDMA and 1900Mhz for LTE.
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Sure, LTE is the reason for SIM.
CDMA is a single-band network (hence why previously you could not talk and surf the web simultaneously). In order to connect on the LTE frequency, the SIM (Subscriber Identity Module) card identifies the phone for registering on the network.
Sprint uses 850Mhz for CDMA and 1900Mhz for LTE.
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So, you're saying all CDMA phones are using SIM now for its LTE connectivity?
I'm not sure if EVERY cdma LTE phone uses a SIM, but I do know that it's very common.
Every LTE phone uses a Sim. Because LTE is for one thing a gsm technology.
The republic wireless moto x hardware probably does support normal non LTE gsm as its the same hardware as the sprint model . that said its probably boot loader locked and firmware locked to not support gsm . they are not that dumb to let people buy the phones to not use on their network .
sleepyguy007 said:
Every LTE phone uses a Sim. Because LTE is for one thing a gsm technology.
The republic wireless moto x hardware probably does support normal non LTE gsm as its the same hardware as the sprint model . that said its probably boot loader locked and firmware locked to not support gsm . they are not that dumb to let people buy the phones to not use on their network .
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It's not that I don't wanna use their network. It's because of the limited availability and, price point too
sleepyguy007 said:
Every LTE phone uses a Sim. Because LTE is for one thing a gsm technology.
The republic wireless moto x hardware probably does support normal non LTE gsm as its the same hardware as the sprint model . that said its probably boot loader locked and firmware locked to not support gsm . they are not that dumb to let people buy the phones to not use on their network .
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This is what I was curious about. Whether or not the radios are there and just disabled, or whether they do not exist in it at all.
So I'm about to go and meetup with someone to buy this phone, but I just realized there are a ton of different variants. I'm just finding out that her phone is locked to Rogers so it's probably the XT1058 that she has. My question is: Is there a way to get this phone and specific model to work on Wind Mobile (or Tmobile's 3g network)? The band for Wind Mobile is AWS 1700.
Legend28469 said:
So I'm about to go and meetup with someone to buy this phone, but I just realized there are a ton of different variants. I'm just finding out that her phone is locked to Rogers so it's probably the XT1058 that she has. My question is: Is there a way to get this phone and specific model to work on Wind Mobile (or Tmobile's 3g network)? The band for Wind Mobile is AWS 1700.
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i thought that Roger's had something going on that the device is basically locked in to their network... someone else can chime in here.
Legend28469 said:
So I'm about to go and meetup with someone to buy this phone, but I just realized there are a ton of different variants. I'm just finding out that her phone is locked to Rogers so it's probably the XT1058 that she has. My question is: Is there a way to get this phone and specific model to work on Wind Mobile (or Tmobile's 3g network)? The band for Wind Mobile is AWS 1700.
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personally i wouldnt mess with trying to switch carriers with the phone.
The Rogers phone can be carrier unlocked. I have one, it's unlocked and working on telus, lte and all.
But, better do some searching, cause I thought I read somewhere that it won't work on wind. Maybe I'm wrong, but better look into it or you may be disappointed.
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It works fine on wind. Had to sim unlock it, but that was it
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OP, based on the replies here, if you have yet to go through with the purchase, be sure to read up on the complications of unlocking the device for other carriers before making the decision that this phone is for you.
bongostl said:
It works fine on wind. Had to sim unlock it, but that was it
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A Rogers XT1058 will not work on Wind, it does not support HSPA on the 1700/2100 Mhz frequency band.
To the OP, you need an XT1053 model of the Moto X to use it with Wind Mobile.
The XT1053 is not sold in Canada, it is sold in the US as the retail/tmobile/gsm dev edition.
Unlocking a Rogers XT1058 is easy and less then 10 bucks but it still won't enable the AWS bands for HSPA. It will only work on Telus, Koodo, Bell, Virgin, Rogers and Fido.
Yup ^^^
That's about what I read. And most unlocked phones I looked at before buying my Moto X said work on all carriers.. Except wind. Not just the Moto x either... The G2 was another for sure.
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