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With the new lapdocks coming out for the Razr I was wondering if the 100 and 500 model would be compatible with the Droid Bionic.
Also, with ice cream sandwich just released I was wondering if a rom were to come out with ice cream sandcwich, would webtop still work?
Yes, the lapdock supposedly supports all of the devices that use webtop. which is awesome.
I'm assuming yes with ICS. If Moto doesn't change the /Osh partition, i'm sure it will work. Reason I say that is due to flashing over a custom rom and still keeping my modified webtop.
Hopefully Moto will leave it alone or add new functionality that we can break into.
here's what I was looking at earlier:
http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/18/motorola-lapdock-500-pro-lapdock-100-accessories-hands-on/
Thanks now I may just have to get myself a lapdock.
Just to make sure if I were to flash a rom such as cm7 the lapdock would still work?
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I would have to say not without a little bit of work from the devs. Besides, we don't even have a daily driver for CM7 yet anyways.
from what i have seen, the 500 lapdock will support all webtop enabled devices but the 100 will be a RZR only model. as for webtop, will it even be needed if the phone already has a tablet OS on it. With the limitations that the ram presents I think i would rather have the tablet OS when on the lapdock over webtop
dB Zac said:
from what i have seen, the 500 lapdock will support all webtop enabled devices but the 100 will be a RZR only model. as for webtop, will it even be needed if the phone already has a tablet OS on it. With the limitations that the ram presents I think i would rather have the tablet OS when on the lapdock over webtop
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Actually i think thats backwards. 100 is already advertised to fit all of them on the motorola site. I assume the 500 is the expensive one that sanjay spoke of.
Sorry, but what are the differences between the tablet OS and Web top OS
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New lapdocks? You mean the one I bought at launch will not work razr?
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cbyankees3 said:
Sorry, but what are the differences between the tablet OS and Web top OS
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Everything. The tablet OS is still android. Webtop OS Ubuntu and has more of a full desktop feel like a net book. the phones available ram holds it back a bit also
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dB Zac said:
Everything. The tablet OS is still android. Webtop OS Ubuntu and has more of a full desktop feel like a net book. the phones available ram holds it back a bit also
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Well the phone was made to run Android, but Motorola has a sort of thing that allows them to run Webtop (which is Ubuntu) over it. I don't know too much about it...but I do know that it has a FULL Firefox browser that runs like it would on an awful netbook lol. I've seen that it may have awesome functionality, but it's very slow because of the amount of RAM needed to run Firefox now is less than the Bionic is capable of. It's a great idea, but motorola needs to develop it more and make it better (and more affordable).
And why hasn't someone hacked webtop so we can run Linux or something lol?
Well once you move the webtop to your SD, you can hack it to run gnome or other desk tops but ram is still an issue. I found another thread that techs how to make a swap partition that would help with ram but I am struggling with it. I am not a hacker by any means
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alodar1 said:
Actually i think thats backwards. 100 is already advertised to fit all of them on the motorola site. I assume the 500 is the expensive one that sanjay spoke of.
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Correct. 500 has not been confirmed to be compatible with hardware older than RAZR.
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I want a 500 to use on my Bionic. If the 100 and 500 both work the same and fit the razer and the 100 is said to work with bionic, then why wouldn't 500 also work with Bionic ?
I would love to be able to use ICH on my lapdock rather then ubuntu due to the lack of ram, seems after 10-15 min of browsing my phone runs out of ram and closes firefox.
Just picked up the 100. I prefer the smaller size, a 10" screen is big enough and only weights 2.2lbs. Still get 2 USB ports. Posting from it now, love it so far! Only $149.99 at best buy. Obviously looking at the box, I have a razr.
PatrickS. said:
I want a 500 to use on my Bionic. If the 100 and 500 both work the same and fit the razer and the 100 is said to work with bionic, then why wouldn't 500 also work with Bionic ?
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I can confirm the 500 does work with the Bionic. Bought one in the $150 VZW sale last weekend and it arrived yesterday. Screen, speakers, SD card slot, USB ports all work great. Webcam, VGA-out and Ethernet port do not work with the Bionic, but may be supported in a future Webtop update.
The Bionic fits in the tray, which is made to support different sized phones. However, there is a weird bug where Netflix and some other video apps display upside-down when using the tray. This is not just a Bionic bug as it affects the RAZR as well. The workaround is to remove the phone from the tray and just lay it flat while still plugged in, which fixes the display. Moto has confirmed this is a bug and said it will be fixed in a future patch.
As of right now you can get one of these for $50
http://www.bensoutlet.com/products/motorola-droid-bionic-lapdock
I snagged a Bionic lapdock recently during the $80 sale, and mine is in perfect working order. Unfortunately Webtop doesn't have the performance I'm looking for and I would rather just have HDMI mirroring, which it doesn't look like it officially supports.
I can't seem to dig up any info on this, anyone know?
you can always just switch the Mobile view tab to Landscape and full screen it. IT runs smoother but not as sharp as lapdock view. ICS is supposed to bring us a new webtop with smoother performance but who knows when that will be
I would be a huge fan of this... find any solutions? I'd like to mirror and VNC into a full chrooted ubuntu version rather than my limiting hacked up webuntu...
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eDuDe said:
I snagged a Bionic lapdock recently during the $80 sale, and mine is in perfect working order. Unfortunately Webtop doesn't have the performance I'm looking for and I would rather just have HDMI mirroring, which it doesn't look like it officially supports.
I can't seem to dig up any info on this, anyone know?
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One of the reasons I purchased my first Motorola (RAZR) was because of lapdock and WebTop. I'm hoping that someone can bring this back either in an app or as part of a Custom ROM.
Is this possible?
I would pay for a working webtop app. I would actually keep this phone instead of the Droid Ultra.
WEB Top
mtvdeo said:
I would pay for a working webtop app. I would actually keep this phone instead of the Droid Ultra.
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So this makes 2 that would pay, is there any others interested?
Not sure what good it'll do but id pay for anything that made my lapdock usable.
Have you guys tried airdroid? I am sure there are others but I only use web top for testing on occasion.
PS. Wrong forum I believe.
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Missing WebTop
I like the lapdock and I like the browser in WebTop because it is not the phone browser so WEB sites stay in PC mode. I have looked at Airdroid but I don't want to have a laptop with me.
I posted in this forum in hops that this feature can be added in a custom ROM or in to an app.
I wouldn't count on seeing it as I think Moto has stopped using Webtop and will not be using it on any future devices. So unless someone makes a standalone app to do what Webtop did you may be hard pressed to see it in the future.
MIssing WEB Top
I heard that about Motorola dropping WEB top that is why I posted here in hopes that there is enough interest it resurrect it as an app or in a custom ROM
BatMan01 said:
I like the lapdock and I like the browser in WebTop because it is not the phone browser so WEB sites stay in PC mode.
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Helps to mentions this..
I have looked at Airdroid but I don't want to have a laptop with me.
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I have to be missing something here...you want web top with out a computer? Airdroid can be accessed via WiFi or 3G/4G I believe.
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Webtop bounty here here! I got $30 contribution for a port to razr maxx hd xt926m.
This was mentioned in another thread. We tried changing resolutions for certain lapdocks.
These phones do work just fine with the lapdock 100 and 500. But it just makes your phone display look like a tablet. Then use opera or Firefox.
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Webtop bounty? I'm in!
I'll give $30 for a fully working webtop app.
Webtop bounty officially at over $60.
Everyone who said they'd pitch in please pledge your amount.
Spread the word!
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jfriend33 said:
Webtop bounty officially at over $60.
Everyone who said they'd pitch in please pledge your amount.
Spread the word!
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Just throwing this one in, I'd give 30 also if made to work with MB886 i understand that that device is similar.
Shoot, id pay $30 just to be able to adjust overscan on JB.
Jbmfg...... $30
Mtvideo... $30
Jfriend33..$30
Up to $90 on the bounty to port webtop to the razr hd!
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I'm interested if this goes anywhere. I don't have the lapdock yet but shopping for one now since I have become frustrated with tablets. I just switched to a razr hd & I am looking @ the 100 & 500 but a modded atrix looks appealing. I am just trying to learn what i can before taking the plunge.
I found this thread from here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002914&highlight=lapdock
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I'm interested if this goes anywhere. I don't have the lapdock yet but shopping for one now since I have become frustrated with tablets. I just switched to a razr hd & I am looking @ the 100 & 500 but a modded atrix looks appealing. I am just trying to learn what i can before taking the plunge.
I found this thread from here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002914&highlight=lapdock
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Nice. Yeah I tried the atrix lapdock and did the mod where you flip the micro USB and hdmi. It works just fine (speakers, keyboard, track pad, everything) but the screen has black bars above and below that are like letterboxes. Even with the script manager you linked to still a no go.
The aforementioned screen issues do not happen with the lapdock 100 or 500. It goes full screen just fine. It basically just enlarges the display and makes it look like a tablet layout. I've seen lapdock 500s sell as low as $70 on ebay and the 100s go for as low as $40 shipped.
Why do we need webtop then you ask? If we got it ported, we would have more options for hdmi output, and it would have a dedicated layout for when it's docked. Also the black bars would no longer be an issue for those who have atrix or bionic lapdocks. Plus there's Firefox with flash, etc.
I have a brand new atrix lapdock that I modified. I also have the Motorola brand leather portfolio case. I have been very hesitant to get rid of it in hopes we get this bounty going. But with school starting again I'm afraid I might be less hesitant to buy a ld 100 or 500 if it's a great deal and list my atrix ld on ebay. Either way the whole situation is frustrating. I may just sell my phone and get the droid maxx or galaxy note 3 after they've been out for at least a month and I've been able to play with them thoroughly.
How much do you pledge Ronbo85? Hopefully we can get more folks interested. Spread the word!
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Well I need to get my lapdock 1st before I committed and the usability issues concern me a little whether I should get one. If I commit I would pony up to everybody else. Do we have a DEV on board?
I didn't realize there was a bionic model (and I had a bionic) so now that expands my search. Thank you for the info.
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Well I need to get my lapdock 1st before I committed and the usability issues concern me a little whether I should get one. If I commit I would pony up to everybody else. Do we have a DEV on board?
I didn't realize there was a bionic model (and I had a bionic) so now that expands my search. Thank you for the info.
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The bionic one is nice because it's ports are oriented correctly. No physical mod needed. But it also has the black bar issue. So beware.
There is not a developer on board currently, if you could help with that, I'd appreciate it. I figure the more people that pledge the greater chance someone will commit to helping.
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OK well let me try and get a lapdock. I am definately interested. I do need a little education here. So the lapdock is usable but has issues? The Atrix/Bionic ones have black bars due to screen resolution fit?
I was checking the 2 razr maxx's (non-HD) I have, one has JB the other has ICS and they both report webtop 3.0.0 in the settings menu. One of them has the stock rom and 2 custom roms all JB. One custom rom has webtop the other does not. I gather webtop is incorporated in the rom. Maybe the avenue is to appeal to a ROM DEV.
I appreciate your help.
bionic upgraded to JB. installed clockworkmod and did a backup and phone went capootz. (I guess that was a bad thing to do) So I had to fxz and then root with linux vm. all is great. running safestrap 3.60 and enjoying the phone.
So I ordered the Motorola Travel Adapter for Access to the Webtop Application for $9.95 (normally $30) from amazon with free shipping with an over $25 order.
I was thinking this was going to enable a desktop with a ubuntu firefox. While showing a mirror of my phone on the left side of the desktop. Instead the adapter did nothing. When I disconnected the adapter and run the hdmi cable directly it works but without the ubuntu style deskop. It actually has an mk802xx hdmi stick/tablet type desktop.
how can I tell what version of webtop works and did I waste $9.95?
thanks
For android 4.0+ webtop is just android in tablet mode so everything is working as it should. Motorola stopped supporting webtop a while back.
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spunker88 said:
For android 4.0+ webtop is just android in tablet mode so everything is working as it should. Motorola stopped supporting webtop a while back.
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Thanks for the response spunker88, I had seen some demonstrations of where there was a desktop where you could resize windows and such with webtop. I know it was discontinued but it sure looked cool. When I use the adapter in only goes into "mirror mode" when I go straight into the phone it asks me if I want to use webtop or mirror. I guess I wasted $10 bucks. sure wish I could find an upside in this. guess others should know that this adapter is not a buy if there is nothing else.... I guess webtop 3.0 correlates to android 3.x. honeycomb... So basically all these people who bought lapdocks now have a different desktop without resizeable windows because it is now in tablet mode? boy would I be pissed if I updated my phone to JB and I preferred the old desktop. I would send it back to moto for refund. after all they are the ones who updated and removed. maybe I should send back my adapter for $30 refund. lol
thanks
rob
AFAIK the Webtop version with Ubuntu was kind of slow and laggy since it was running on top of Android. Running Ubuntu on top of Android 4.x probably would have been even slower and used a bunch of flash space for storing the OS leaving you with less to use. Combine that with the fact that Motorola sold very few lapdocks since they were priced so high, I can see why they did what they did.
What were you wanting to do in Ubuntu that you can't in Android. There is Firefox for Android that is basically a port of the desktop rendering engine.
Hello!
I'm thinking of buying the Droid 4, I have Atrix, but the Droid 4 is faster (and I also have Lapdock 100, which without additional cables is not the Atrix)
I am very interested in HDMI support with ROM, whether it is possible to work with this ROM Lapdock 100? Because on Atrix Lapdock 100 works only with ICS 4.0 from Motorola (otherwise the screen automatically turns off, also in Motorola 2.* systems)
Thank you for your response
Fervi
your best bet might be posting here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53886877
theres someone asking about the atrix lapdock in page 11 saying it the screen didnt light up
hdmi works though and ive used it myself