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[Q] Security App / Encryption / Locking?

I will be using my GTab as my primary travel "laptop" since it's much easier to tug on a plane and the battery lasts 4 times longer.
This means I may very well have sensitive information, including my contact list, on it at any given time. I'm concerned that if I do this and it's stolen in an Airport or left in a cab that I could have a data breach.
What security options have people used? I'm concerned first about locking the device to keep out the average joe, but I also would like to have an encrypted section on the SDCard for sensitive file storage. I assume there's no way to encrypt contacts or email on the device, but other documents and spreadsheets would be good.
There's still a LOT of things I'd never put on a mobile device, but at times I might need to travel with sensitive information.

My suggestion for sensitive data would be a seperate Thumb drive with password protection. Just to be on the safe side. Use pin or password security on the tablet as opposed to lockscreen gesture. I use all the dots for my gesture so that my fingerprint trails can't be easily traced over.
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boilock is coming

Has anyone tried the premium version of "Lookout".apk ? I have the basic virus scanner version, but the premium claims to include remoted data wipe and remote lock. Just google it for more info. The premium costs $29.99 per year

Vegan has the logon security option. I use it on mine.....
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ketty_yijun said:
boilock is coming
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yes it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KRelvzkXdU
hope this works on the gtab think it would be pretty sweet!

Lookout
insight3fl said:
Has anyone tried the premium version of "Lookout".apk ? I have the basic virus scanner version, but the premium claims to include remoted data wipe and remote lock. Just google it for more info. The premium costs $29.99 per year
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I use Lookout premium for my Vibrant, and am researching to see if I can apply my premium protections to an additional device. I have been very happy with Lookout. Of all the programs out there this was the one I found to be best in terms of locking my phone remotely and not giving someone an easy way to figure out how to unlock it. Not sure if it will do the same for my rooted G Tab though. I'll let you know what I find out...

biggerguy_sf said:
I use Lookout premium for my Vibrant, and am researching to see if I can apply my premium protections to an additional device. I have been very happy with Lookout. Of all the programs out there this was the one I found to be best in terms of locking my phone remotely and not giving someone an easy way to figure out how to unlock it. Not sure if it will do the same for my rooted G Tab though. I'll let you know what I find out...
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I checked with Lookout and they said that I can have two devices on my account. The only caveat is that since my G Tablet has no number it can't take advantage of advanced features that require SMS communication with the Lookout server. But the install went fine, signing in went fine, and I am now scanned and good to go!

How would lookout "Find your phone if it is lost or stolen"??? off of the Wifi signal if it is avaliable for the tablet?

IMPORTANT in regards to wireless tethering.

I was an avid user of wireless tether but please do not use it while still running stock rom. Verizon and motorola have security features built into the stock software to help them track people using what they consider illeagal tether apps. Please refrain from using such apps until there is a custom ROM released so as to avoid bringing us to the forefront of verizons attention. In the meantime use pdanet USB tether app located in market. It is important that we as a community stop using our knowledge to continue pushing carriers and handset manufacturers from locking us out completely. If we continue our current trend of outrite defiance in use of these wireless tether apps (wheather you think it should be ok or not is irrelevent until a court rules on it) we are only hurting ourselves in the long run. Please for now use pdanet or similar USB tether app as they are not frowned upon by carriers. If you need to know why here it is, USB apps allow only one device to be connected which limits bandwidth used at one time, wireless tethers allow you to run everything in your house simultatiously greatly increasing individual strain on the network and makeing the user experience for all worse in the long run as the network can only handle so much.
Well, there it all is, an informed public is a better public... Happy modding to all.
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Can we get this stickied?

im sorry to burst this bubble but the securty system also stops you from tethering completely. Im rooted but open garden tether does not work.

Thanks for the info. I've deleted the Wireless Tether app.

Proof should be provided or people are going to chalk this up to fear mongering
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devanmc said:
im sorry to burst this bubble but the securty system also stops you from tethering completely. Im rooted but open garden tether does not work.
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This has been reported multiple times. Any device running the new gingerbread is going to be blocked from illegal tether unless a custom ROM is installed that overrides it, such as CM7.

Wtf guys? I have stated multiple times to use the droid 3 hack.

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Proof should be provided or people are going to chalk this up to fear mongering
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The proof will be when we are all sitting around complaining because we have been locked out. You can choose to follow this advice or not but, if you think that I would post something to monger fear then apparently you don't know me. It will be people like you who ruin it for all of us. If you don't believe me then do your own research. Disprove it but, until then don't be one of those fools that say global warming isn't real. The evidence is in front of us. Android was completely open in beginning and we were encouraged to develop away. Then as more people began to abuse their power (knowledge is power) the manufacturers and carriers started locking everything down. If you can't see it staring you in the face your blind. Another issue entirely is people who have no aptitude for this what soever are bricking their phones and then getting new replacements simply because they can't follow instructions and shouldn't be modding to begin with but, that's a different discussion for a different day.
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devanmc said:
im sorry to burst this bubble but the securty system also stops you from tethering completely. Im rooted but open garden tether does not work.
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Well, I'm happy to burst yours. Use pdanet, I've been using it since unboxing this beast. I used it to set up adb and to find rooting instructions. And then to download su.zip folder.
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yutzyscott said:
The proof will be when we are all sitting around complaining because we have been locked out. You can choose to follow this advice or not but, if you think that I would post something to monger fear then apparently you don't know me. It will be people like you who ruin it for all of us. If you don't believe me then do your own research. Disprove it but, until then don't be one of those fools that say global warming isn't real. The evidence is in front of us. Android was completely open in beginning and we were encouraged to develop away. Then as more people began to abuse their power (knowledge is power) the manufacturers and carriers started locking everything down. If you can't see it staring you in the face your blind. Another issue entirely is people who have no aptitude for this what soever are bricking their phones and then getting new replacements simply because they can't follow instructions and shouldn't be modding to begin with but, that's a different discussion for a different day.
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I agree with the premise of your original post, but when you resort to name calling and "You do the research to prove my point" all credibility goes out the window.

Im inviting him to disprove my point not prove it. My information comes from all over various forums. P3droid a well known developer in our community first brought this to our attention. And it has been discussed on many other sites. People can believe what they want. If you want to wireless tether then go ahead. You can do it by installing app from third party source or restoring a titanium backup version from previous device then freezing all stock apps and processes related to wireless hotpot in titanium. Good luck.
I am just a modder like the rest of you. I do not benefit nor have any reason to monger fear. I am just providing what I know and have read to increase awareness... do with it what you will.
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Do any of the wireless tether apps actually load up and work?
I heard yesterday that Wifi Tether 3.0 did, but didn't see anyone else claim that it did.

I would love to use the droid 3 wireless solution but i have got to the step of plugging the phone into the computer after having all drivers and the radiocom program installed and it the phone info does not show up
please confirm anyone who has got this to work that the phone is to be in PC Mode.
Again I have all the drivers installed have .net installed and the radiocom program and the phone usb in pc mode
I am running windows vista home 32bit machine
has anyone ran into a similar problem and corrected it that you might share
thanks

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Do any of the wireless tether apps actually load up and work?
I heard yesterday that Wifi Tether 3.0 did, but didn't see anyone else claim that it did.
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I fired it up just to test it. Wouldn't work for me.

Wireless tether is one of the reasons I still have my Droid X on Froyo...I use it a lot.
If I were able to get it to work on the Bionic, I might would consider purchasing it...although I am not thrilled about the screen on the Bionic.

Tethering w/ a 2GB/Mo limit??
I'm afraid to run anything tethered unless I have to. I'm afraid I'm going to quickly exceed the 2GB/mo DL limit!!

igotgame said:
Do any of the wireless tether apps actually load up and work?
I heard yesterday that Wifi Tether 3.0 did, but didn't see anyone else claim that it did.
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I downloaded and installed 3.1 beta 6 and it fired up. As soon as the program started the default tether from motorola also started. I was able to send out a SSID and my eee pad tablet picked it up, however in the list of devices there was a * next to the name. I tried to connect, no go. Sure do hope Verizon doesnt send me a nasty letter

Guys... this happens. I pretty much think the kernel needs to be modified as this happens on my TBolt when a kernel has a bug. Until we see if the boot loader is going to be unlocked... dont hold your breath

There seem to be a lot of people who depend on tethering... why don't you guys just get PdaNet. Works perfectly fine on the Bionic and you dont even need root...

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Wtf guys? I have stated multiple times to use the droid 3 hack.
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although you have said this multiple time, i have yet to see someone get it to work on a bionic.
nobody seems to be able to reproduce your results (if you have done this, not saying you didn't but i don't remember you saying you did either)
waiting for a custom rom may be a bridge to far for most people .. just depends on unlocking the bootloader... I am hopeing it will be soon...

Coming from Android with a few questions...

I just ordered a HTC 8x (keeping my 32gb SIII for now) from Verizon and had a few questions. I have not used a Windows phone since my HTC TP2 - which I loved until the HTC Incredible came out. Is there an app that allows WiFi tethering - like FoxFi? I don't use it all that much but when I travel it is nice. I am grandfathered in to unlimited so the tiered plans are not an option. I also use mass txt messages several times (13 team members) a week and I am currently using GoSMS to do it. I am hoping there is a similar app that allows mass txting on Windows Phone OS - stock would be great. Does the wireless charging system use more power than the traditional hard wired cables?
Looking forward to WM8 & thanks all for any help!

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On WP8 only way to tether (I could be wrong) is to pay carrier extra fee. I am waiting on another option as well, and as far as mass text you can do that in the groups setting I send out text to 16 people at a time for basketball games and such. And the room feature seems to be nice but I haven't used it yet. There is also http://xyo.net/lumia/ which will tell you what apps are somewhat equivalent.

WP8 -- in settings has an option for internet sharing (no app needed) that provides up to 5 other devices (at least on my 920 with AT&T). I assume that this is a general option in WP8 ...
I have the shared data plan that allows tethering, so I am not sure if networks need to have it allowed in order to use it ...
But, the option is there without the need of an app ...

eth3rton said:
I just ordered a HTC 8x (keeping my 32gb SIII for now) from Verizon and had a few questions. I have not used a Windows phone since my HTC TP2 - which I loved until the HTC Incredible came out. Is there an app that allows WiFi tethering - like FoxFi? I don't use it all that much but when I travel it is nice. I am grandfathered in to unlimited so the tiered plans are not an option. I also use mass txt messages several times (13 team members) a week and I am currently using GoSMS to do it. I am hoping there is a similar app that allows mass txting on Windows Phone OS - stock would be great. Does the wireless charging system use more power than the traditional hard wired cables?
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wi-fi tethering is a built-in feature in WP8 (since WP7.5) - it's called "internet sharing". i have no problem with at&t, using my nokia 920 as a wi-fi AP for my notebook and my ms surface rt. i can even go remotely to my work computer through VPN.
you can create a group, adding anybody from your contacts. after that you can send email or text sms to all the contacts from this group - just by one click.
and yes, you don't need any additional applications for these features.
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buffalosolja42 said:
On WP8 only way to tether (I could be wrong) is to pay carrier extra fee. I am waiting on another option as well, and as far as mass text you can do that in the groups setting I send out text to 16 people at a time for basketball games and such. And the room feature seems to be nice but I haven't used it yet. There is also http://xyo.net/lumia/ which will tell you what apps are somewhat equivalent.
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i've been a t-mobile customer, and now i'm an at&t client. i didn't pay anything additional for using my phone as a modem (through bluetooth or wi-fi, whatever) and i'm not paying now. the only payment you should be aware of - for the data, you use. i subscribed to a data shared mobile plan in at&t - $90/mo for 6Gb shared data (plus unlimited voice and text) for up to 10 (i believe) lines (i use 4) plus $35/mo per device. i pay $225/mo for 3 smartphones and 1 simple phone. we've never overlimited our 6Gb plan. though if you do, it costs $15/1Gb.
the room is a cool feature, but it works only for WP-phones. but as i said you can group your contacts to be able to email or text all of them by one click.

I think on Verizon unless I am on the Share all plan I am not allowed to use the wifi/bluetooth tethering. At least without an app like FoxFi. Speaking of contacts... how are they managed on WP8? I will go out on a limb and say iCloud is definitely out and probably so is Gmail... hope its that easy.

blackofe said:
the only payment you should be aware of - for the data, you use. i subscribed to a data shared mobile plan in at&t - $90/mo for 6Gb shared data
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The 6Gb data share plan (for families, or 5Gb for individual) is needed to enable tethering with AT&T ...

eth3rton said:
... how are they managed on WP8? I will go out on a limb and say iCloud is definitely out and probably so is Gmail... hope its that easy.
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Gmail is seamless, and so are your contacts if they're synced with Google.
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eth3rton said:
I just ordered a HTC 8x (keeping my 32gb SIII for now) from Verizon and had a few questions. I have not used a Windows phone since my HTC TP2 - which I loved until the HTC Incredible came out. Is there an app that allows WiFi tethering - like FoxFi? I don't use it all that much but when I travel it is nice. I am grandfathered in to unlimited so the tiered plans are not an option. I also use mass txt messages several times (13 team members) a week and I am currently using GoSMS to do it. I am hoping there is a similar app that allows mass txting on Windows Phone OS - stock would be great. Does the wireless charging system use more power than the traditional hard wired cables?
Looking forward to WM8 & thanks all for any help!
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I'm sorry man...but why the hell would you ever leave the gsIII for any other phone period? All the things you need are on Android and the gsIII.
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While the SIII is a great device it is NOT the end all of phones. There are still plenty of force closes and lock ups on the device. I am just wanting to try something different and I have been looking forward to WM8 for a long time. Here's hoping.

^ you might want to read the WPcentral forums, and the iPhone forums, as they do the same lock ups and force closes.
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eth3rton said:
While the SIII is a great device it is NOT the end all of phones. There are still plenty of force closes and lock ups on the device. I am just wanting to try something different and I have been looking forward to WM8 for a long time. Here's hoping.
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the only way to avoid lockups is turning off these phones.

I don't think I've had a lock up or app crash on Windows Phone. They were all too common on iOS though.
But can we leave all the playground arguments over best platform to some other forum? they're only phones at the end of the day.

gilesjuk said:
I don't think I've had a lock up or app crash on Windows Phone. They were all too common on iOS though.
But can we leave all the playground arguments over best platform to some other forum? they're only phones at the end of the day.
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You're the first person in this thread to mention best platform, no one is arguing.

Crashes are present in Windows Phone as well, but are less obvious as the system simply closes down the app without saying a word.
In most cases, crashes are due to the poorly written app and not the system.
Although I have a killer wifi and university that restarts my phone lol.

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^ you might want to read the WPcentral forums, and the iPhone forums, as they do the same lock ups and force closes.
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After reading several of your posts, I still can't figure out if you are a WP8 supporter or not.
Either way, I have been on Android for my entire cell phone career for several years and most recently had the GS3. I can't even tell you how many force closes I have had from apps, lag and slowdown because of horrible resource management of the OS, dalvik cache slowdown, etc. I rooted all of my devices and was heavily into the technical side of things.
I never had an iPhone but have played with many. Never was my cup of tea, but I won't talk bad about it since I simply don't know enough.
I finally grew tired of it all and purchased a HTC 8X last week. I can tell you that WP8 OS is such a breath of fresh air coming from Android. There is absolutely no lag or slowdown whatsoever....ever. I can pop in and out of apps, do whatever I want and it constantly stays smooth. No ram dumps or reboots required. I also have not had a single force closed app or random reboot like some people have reported. It has been an absolute flawless experience so far.
Just thought I would post some positive energy after a lot of negative. Is WP8 a lot more simple than Android? Yes. Is it a bad thing? No. It's such a seamless and smooth experience that I'm not sure I can' go back to Android at this point. At least not for a while. YMMV.

You quote me why? Who was negative? Just stated a fact, dont be so defensive.
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vetvito said:
You quote me why? Who was negative? Just stated a fact, dont be so defensive.
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I'm not being defensive at all. Just stating my opinion based on your quote. The other reason why I quoted you is that I've seen you all throughout this WP8 forum sort of talking down on WP8. Just curious as to why and which side you are on. Not saying you have to pick a side or you can't talk down on WP8, but just curious.

What have I said down? That it lock ups? Is that a lie? App crashes? Is that a lie?How about random reboots? I could go and mention a host of other things but there is no point.
So don't quote me with baseless rhetoric.
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vetvito said:
What have I said down? That it lock ups? Is that a lie? App crashes? Is that a lie?How about random reboots? I could go and mention a host of other things but there is no point.
So don't quote me with baseless rhetoric.
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You know, apologies are in order. I think I completely got you confused with someone else.
Anyhow, my bad. At the same time, my experience with WP8 that I posted doesn't change. I'm loving this OS so far! :good:

A ton of folks are, enjoy it. Don't take this stuff seriously, it's just a phone at the end of the day.
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Hotspot not so unlimited with root. - T-Mobile USA LTE

Got cut off today while finishing the Dragon Ball series. I have LTE enabled and was streaming with it. I still love t-mo though, coming from Sprint their speeds are to die for.
Didn't see a thread about this.
Edit: not to say they ever implied it was unlimited in the first place, but it would seem so with root.
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which plan are you on?

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which plan are you on?
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Unlimited 4G with 500MB hotspot. Took Sprint 2.5 years to catch me tethering without paying with hot spot hack on sph-d700 (epic 4g)
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Well the hotspot of all their plans it technically only 500mb then you have to pay an extra $10 for another 1gb. Using data on the phone is unlimited. They probably saw your user agent string and noticed it was for a computer rather than your phone. Still you got a lot more than 500mb of hotspot out of it, so not too bad a deal.
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They probably noticed quickly because it was so much data in a short period of time. If you spread out the tethering more (maybe less video), they probably wouldn't notice. I'm on the $30 prepaid plan and tether around 5gb a month but I spread it out over a couple days (maybe 500-2gb a day) and haven't been caught yet.

lazer155 said:
Well the hotspot of all their plans it technically only 500mb then you have to pay an extra $10 for another 1gb. Using data on the phone is unlimited. They probably saw your user agent string and noticed it was for a computer rather than your phone. Still you got a lot more than 500mb of hotspot out of it, so not too bad a deal.
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Yeah but compared to Sprint, T-mo is really keeping an eye out for the tether'ers. Glad I got as far as I did though lol. Any way around the user agent string?
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tdoglablarezigzaguno.1.3.13 said:
Yeah but compared to Sprint, T-mo is really keeping an eye out for the tether'ers. Glad I got as far as I did though lol. Any way around the user agent string?
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you can spoof it on your computer i guess but im not so sure that's the problem

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you can spoof it on your computer i guess but im not so sure that's the problem
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Smasung series 3 Chromebook? If not it's cool. Guess I gotta wait till I can wait to get a PC and patience for anime episodes lol
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tdoglablarezigzaguno.1.3.13 said:
Yeah but compared to Sprint, T-mo is really keeping an eye out for the tether'ers. Glad I got as far as I did though lol. Any way around the user agent string?
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Yeah you can spoof it by changing your browser setting. Depending on your browser you can look it up: http://www.howtogeek.com/113439/how...user-agent-without-installing-any-extensions/
It's a feature built into basically all browsers.
It decreases your chances of being detected but it really depends on how tmobile detects tethering. The user agent way is the simpliest and quickest but they can also do it by TTL (time to live) of the packets your computer requests as you for example watch videos or browse. They can also detect it other ways but those are 2 of the more common ones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734138 Post 8 explains the TTL method a bit more
Basically changing your user agent is the quickest method that my help a bit (depending on if they favor that detection method). Using a vpn on your computer might further and better prevent detection. (I've never tried this myself but in theory it might help more than a simple user agent change. You can find guides of other methods people use to try and get around it. I haven't heavily investigated any other methods aside from the vpn and user agent since I've never been cut off so I don't really know of of any specific ones.
I personally think the thing that really tips them off is a huge spike in usage for a short time period.
If you tether over bluetooth or USB, you basically never get caught in my experience as well as several others I know who do the same. So I would try that. It's a bit slower but not bad.
I'd suggest bluetooth or usb tethering next time and see if that prolongs your hotspot usage. But as I mentioned, I really think it is the massive usage spike in a short time that tips them off so you may still get caught. When I use bluetooth and usb tethering, I still try not to go to heavy on usage over short periods.
I suspect that the TTL method may be more commonly used since it's not easily avoidable so you are best off slowing your usage when you are tethered. It would be very easy for them to see a spike in usage and check the TTL of your packets, realize you're tethering, then cut it off. It's more reliable than user agents.

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It's funny though that I can go to G+, FB, and G-Mail but not uanime.com or any forums, whether USB or wireless tethering now. Guess I'll try spoofing.
Edit: Override the user agent in the browser on ChromeOS to resemble a GNex and it works, thanks. Although some web pages are now literally half the size they used to be, it doesn't effect full screen videos.
I could kiss you lazer155 haha thank you so much, I wish I could thank your post multiple times
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They blocked all the user agents I used to be able to use. They certainly are beefing up their detection abilities.
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tdoglablarezigzaguno.1.3.13 said:
It's funny though that I can go to G+, FB, and G-Mail but not uanime.com or any forums, whether USB or wireless tethering now. Guess I'll try spoofing.
Edit: Override the user agent in the browser on ChromeOS to resemble a GNex and it works, thanks. Although some web pages are now literally half the size they used to be, it doesn't effect full screen videos.
I could kiss you lazer155 haha thank you so much, I wish I could thank your post multiple times
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Lol no problem, glad it works for you now. :highfive: Yeah that is the downside I forgot to mention. You can try to fix that problem by experimenting with making your browser look like other desktop browsers (for example maybe tmobile doesn't block some of the more obscure desktop browsers like opera etc.) or copying your phone's desktop style user agent in chrome. That might result in desktop style pages but tmobile will think you are a phone requesting desktop. (the user agent actually shows your operating system too so if you spoof that part to android you should be able to get desktop style while still staying hidden) You'd have to look up the android chrome desktop user agent though. I don't know what it is.
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They blocked all the user agents I used to be able to use. They certainly are beefing up their detection abilities.
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Yeah they do seem to figure out the user agent trick eventually if you use it several times. That's happened to other people I know. I think if you keep using a lot of data when tethering eventually they review your usage more carefully with their other methods like the TTL check.

Absolutely no less than 90% of this has been used while connected via native wifi tethering, and this usage is over the course of only 2 weeks. I have unlimited 4g (prepaid) and no tethering plan at all.
I've gotten a page that says I'm either not authorized to tether or over my limit two or three times in the last 3 days, but I just disable/re-enable tethering and reload the page....that's solved it every time.
just in case anyone is wondering, I'm using native wifi/usb tether on official PA (always the latest build) and franco M3 kernel....I've also got the chrome user agent switcher installed on my phone and set to desktop. I'm sure that doesn't matter, but I thought I should mention it. I'm also using chrome on my ubuntu PC with no user agent switcher installed.
I'm curious how much data everyone else who has had a problem tethering have used. I'm pretty sure my usage is way heavier than probably 99% of their customers...even those of us here

You guys have me all kinds of curious about tethering now.
Are any of you using mostly LTE?
If so, what's the battery life?
Stability of tethering?

CrashTestDroid said:
You guys have me all kinds of curious about tethering now.
Are any of you using mostly LTE?
If so, what's the battery life?
Stability of tethering?
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I stay on LTE, no serious difference in battery lifeand I'm usually plugged in while I tether, so battery life doesn't matter much there. Perfectly stable until T-Mo discovers you're over the limit.
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I wonder if whether or not T-mobile can measure how much data you've used for tethering without using their hotspot app (what they use on T-mobile branded phones to meter tethering usage) depends on the APN you're connected through?
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Update wow, I got my Chromecast today and viewed The Hunger Games and a few episode of Breaking Bad through Netflix and it really sky rocketed my data usage. I guess it'll take some time for T-Mo to catch on to Chromecast tethering. Someone let me know if I should delete this post in case T-Mo is watching.
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duce102 said:
Update wow, I got my Chromecast today and viewed The Hunger Games and a few episode of Breaking Bad through Netflix and it really sky rocketed my data usage. I guess it'll take some time for T-Mo to catch on to Chromecast tethering. Someone let me know if I should delete this post in case T-Mo is watching.
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I don't think that has anything to do with chromecast. You streamed a ton of high res media. That uses data. Don't you have WiFi where your TV is?
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duce102 said:
Update wow, I got my Chromecast today and viewed The Hunger Games and a few episode of Breaking Bad through Netflix and it really sky rocketed my data usage. I guess it'll take some time for T-Mo to catch on to Chromecast tethering. Someone let me know if I should delete this post in case T-Mo is watching.
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So is the Chromecast connected via Wi-Fi to your home router or to your phone (acting as a hot spot)?
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pwc realtor said:
So is the Chromecast connected via Wi-Fi to your home router or to your phone (acting as a hot spot)?
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Phone, I don't see much point in paying two different companies for the same service lol
Richieboy67 said:
I don't think that has anything to do with chromecast. You streamed a ton of high res media. That uses data. Don't you have WiFi where your TV is?
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No, I know it's not the Chromecast at fault, just stating I was using that to stream though. I'm surprised at how well its working and I've never streamed 1080p before so the jump in data usage caught me off guard a bit.

My phone sent an SMS that I did not send

So this morning I open Hangouts and see that in the middle of the night my phone sent a text message to 2635. The text message body was:
/T:20fa2a57-f8b2-41c8-93d7-15c2b1fa2327/ /R:5294462c0cf29206e34cd1ac/
Can anybody tell me what this is, why it sent, etc? Has anyone else had this or something similar happen?
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GreenMunky said:
So this morning I open Hangouts and see that in the middle of the night my phone sent a text message to 2635. The text message body was:
/T:20fa2a57-f8b2-41c8-93d7-15c2b1fa2327/ /R:5294462c0cf29206e34cd1ac/
Can anybody tell me what this is, why it sent, etc? Has anyone else had this or something similar happen?
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what service do you have? and are you using hangouts?

charlie-n said:
what service do you have? and are you using hangouts?
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Verizon, and yes, I'm using Hangouts and GEL.
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My phone did the same thing. I'm pretty sure its for the NFL mobile app. I'm also on Verizon. Its done that in the past to verify your service
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strictlyphat said:
My phone did the same thing. I'm pretty sure its for the NFL mobile app. I'm also on Verizon. Its done that in the past to verify your service
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That makes a lot of sense. I opened the NFL Mobile app last night for the first time, then it tried to verify something that I didn't want to wait for so I closed the app and then disabled it. Thank you very much, I was kinda freaked out that my phone had some kind of malware that was sending encrypted info without my knowledge. I guess it was just crappy bloat-ware instead.

strictlyphat said:
My phone did the same thing. I'm pretty sure its for the NFL mobile app. I'm also on Verizon. Its done that in the past to verify your service
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Hangouts shows sms messages that are supposed to be hidden, it intercepts them as they go out, you are not charged extra for them, it goes as far as intercepting voicemail commands on my sprint version so I had to switch back to stock sms app until they fix it.

Confirming this. Very odd. The NFL app should have warned that it was sending a txt but it didn't. Bit scary...

Verizon / NFL Mobile
Yes, it is from Verizon verifying that you are eligible to watch free, live, NFL games that are broadcast in your region and all national prime time games using the NFL Mobile app. Today CBS changed our game from Houston @ Minnesota to Pittsburgh @ Miami so I tried to watch Houston @ Minnesota on my phone and it worked fine.

THANKS for your clear and timely response. I was about to hard reset my phone because I thought it had been compromised!

That freaked me out thanks for putting my mind at ease guys. That's certainly what did it. Super Bowl while in line for dinner. Any good suggestions for identifying applications or possibly root kits etc. And the connections these types of apps tend to use, I intend of contributing to the boards more again. I used to everyday for mobile hardware and Web app development generals. But Im curious if there are apps by which they execute tasks like in this manner which I know this particular one isn't but I don't know the best path for figuring that kind of detection and more advanced feedback results and whos signature database wont be easily corruptible, maybe something more productive and professional but real scan and firewall features would be nice however I think thats why some socks and vpns services exist. I use a couple things. I can't help thinking I'm an idiot for wanting to know what and who want what from my android Mac or Windows device. Instead I could be allowing perms access to apps advertising to stop it but make you vulnerable to the point of someone walking on in and helping themself. I want control over my life my tools and devices, but would settle for doing my best to avoid it from someone else. This is one of a couple weird events. Subtle (what I think are attempts to install $.... yet stood out tremendously at the time. Sorry for etiquette I'm conjuction with topic question a small add on to it and thoughts of others encountering nfl live, any info or comments welcome don't beat me too hard, it's been a working progressive thing for the last year I noticed all these horrible warning signs of the end of true privacy as we know it, since it resonated my interest has grown but maybe my interest has drawn attention like vpns and etc. Idk what to do at this point. Take me back to 1996 and a Circle K with a few dimes and a pay phone if I need you on the phone right now, bad wish for a developer. :]

wht if u never use (hangouts.) & in fact have it disabled on ur phn. do not have a (NFL APP) on ur phn, have never opened one or installed one on ur phn. do not watch t.v. or movies. or sports of any kind on ur phn. have no idea how to cast to anything, nor
do i have any kind of casting/movie/ t.v. watching or playing player or app on my phn. & Have disabled the (google play) (movie/t.v./app) as well on my phn. /& u do not use (verizon wireless) phn service. ???? Or do
not have or use the (google voice messaging/calling service) yet i still got the same text message on my phn as well. ? ANYONE have any other ideas? of to why this happened? or wht it cld be from? thanks, {samiam.~}