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Low Quadrant Standard Test Score

Hi guys,
I've just run a Quad Standard test on my N1 running CM7 RC2 and am getting a score of 1199, which is lower than even the stock 2.2. I've tried with SetCPU ON & OFF, but got pretty much the same score?
A while back, I've flashed the RODS MIUI ROM & the WM Kernel (1152MHz) and ran the test only to get a score of 1192.
Wonder what could be wrong??

It's a synthetic benchmark and therefore meaningless. Does the phone run ok, does it feel like there's a problem?
The only thing Quadrant is good at measuring is how well a ROM is optimised for Quadrant

The phone runs absolutely fine. Its not like i have any issues with it, but just wanted to compare how it performs with different ROM's.

karthik247 said:
The phone runs absolutely fine. Its not like i have any issues with it, but just wanted to compare how it performs with different ROM's.
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Best to break out the stopwatch and perform some real world tests. They're the only ones that matter

The only major difference i noticed after switching to MIUI from CM7 is that booting is super fast. Besides that, everything else felt pretty much the same.
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Does anyone know how to get rid of the power widget on the notification bar?

The option is in the CM settings which can be found in the usual settings

I noticed this too when i ran the benchmark, but simply dismissed it because its not the final version of the rom, and just a RC

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The option is in the CM settings which can be found in the usual settings
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I meant in the MIUI ROM.
Also wanted to know which kernel is the better among Pershoot and WM?
After using the phone with MIUI for a couple of hours now, figured out two issues.
1. When im getting a call, the trackball starts flashing and only after a good 2-3secs does the ringer go off.
2. And while playing music videos, the audio-video sync doesnt seem to be perfect. Its as if the phone is lagging a wee bit. Could this be cuz i only got around 40mb of free space on the device??

Quadrant scores, IMO, mean nothing. They give you a numerical value on the specs and capabilities thattthe phone can do under certain situations but they don't give you any real world numbers.
Yes the scores on my 2.3.3 N1 were "low" as. Well but how do you explain it being just as fast (no exaggeration here) as a stick Atrix? I had both and took the Atrix back.
The Atrix has amazing specs and its hardware is awesome, but as an overall feel I didn't like it, the whole experience didn't feel fluid to me.
All in all, quadrant scores are good for testing stock phones and comparing specs to each other, but you should by no means use that to judge the quality or value of a phone.
That would be like buying a car off of eBay by only comparing specs and stuff written on paper; you ddon't have a feel for the car.
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Daily usage for the LG 2x

Hi all,
For those already using the LG 2x as their daily phone, may i just ask how's the performance in terms of daily usage? Some reviews says it's speedy, so does benchmarks but i have also read reviews that said it should be much better considering that it's dual core and at times, there's some slight stuttering due to the custom froyo skin that LG has.
I'm presently using a Nexus S and it's smooth as butter running custom roms and oc kernel. I'll probably be able to sell off the phone at no loss and top up something like USD120 to get the LG 2x when it arrives in Singapore in the next 2-3 weeks.
Anyone here that have tried both phones and able to provide me with some insights on if i should bother switching? How's the real life use (browsing net, playing music, batt life while playing games etc) difference felt between the processing powers of the two phones?
As it is, the Nexus S can do everything i want except for those Tegra 2 only games. I don't really need a 1080 HD video capability, HDMI mirroring and the 16 Gig space, although limiting is not a deal breaker for me.
Has there been any indications that it'll be able to run custom roms and kernel soon? i know paul from modaco is looking into it at the moment.
Thanks all!

Hi there, I'm also considering between Nexus S and Optimus 2x.
Would appreciate any feedbacks from the users here.

About custom roms - Paul said yesterday that today would be available beta of clockworkmod for download, everything seems that O2X will be great phone for custom roms and stuff Probably there will be functioning Clockwork Mod and developers cooking even before you even get your O2x )

It is lightning fast, and much faster than the Nexus S on stock 2.3. I know because I tried them side by side.
The reviews are correct though, there is some stuttering. I'd say it's annoying as hell, but I'm an impatient guy when it comes to tech-gadgets. I'm sure it's only software issues that will be addressed, either by LG or by custom ROM's.
Sometimes it takes about 5-10 seconds to open the apps list when adding them to the home screen, and sometimes it's as quick as expected.
Sometimes it will stutter while scrolling but most of the time it's smooth as butter. You can clearly tell that there's nothing wrong with the performance because of the smoothness, but there are undoubtedly some serious flaws in the implementation causing intermittent stutter that needs to be addressed.
Playing games is as smooth as I've ever seen. It's simply amazing; There's no stutter or lag AT ALL, so the stuttering you see in the menus seem to be fairly isolated. So far I have tested Angry Birds and AB Rio in addition to Fruit Ninja + Samurai II from Tegra Zone. Samurai II on the TV looks better than a Wii game and is closer to PS3 to be honest.
Another evidence of the incredible performance is the Gallery app. My jaw dropped to the floor when I saw how quick and smooth it is. My Nexus One is like an old Sony Ericsson with Symbian in comparison. If you haven't tried an SE phone with Symbian, consider yourself lucky.

One thing also worth considering is the fact that Froyo is not really optimised for DualCore phones. When gingerbread hits the LG 2x then the speed difference between it and other single core phones should become even more apparent.

the only problem i have with o2x is LG's poor implementation of the LG skin on it. LG's UI w/c i believe can easily be fixed by tweaks/updates or custom roms. that's why im quite happy that g2x will come with vanilla android froyo.
hope LG recognizes the 'MINOR' flaws and stuttering when on the menu/app drawer. but besides that, all other things like browsing, gaming, camera, texting, calling etc are Great and is superior than any other phones in the market as of the moment.

MeX_DK said:
One thing also worth considering is the fact that Froyo is not really optimised for DualCore phones. When gingerbread hits the LG 2x then the speed difference between it and other single core phones should become even more apparent.
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Gingerbread isn't currently optimized to take advantage of the dual core devices either... Hence the information about a version 2.4 of Gingerbread dropping in April. http://goo.gl/b7P0g

I had mine for 8 days now and Im still not used to how fast it is!
My last phone was a HTC Hero, wich I really cant compare it to, but I have played around a lot with iPhone 4, Samsung Galaxy S and Desire HD and my phone eat em for breakfast. Mutitasking games like Angry Birds and Reckless Drivning is really fast and smooth.
Even though 02X dont have 2D accelerated graphics and iPhone 4 does, the smoothness in the menus are pretty much the same.

Amazing fast phone used my old desire (moved to my wife) and it scared the heck out of me found it very slow go figure lol
My son and I uses both the 2x and coming from desires...
Love the screen over the amoled great quality only notice with black when playing not a full screen movie... But the again almost not seen this...
Browsing the net is great and fast deciding which browser to use dolphin mini or opera the latest with flash.
Actually we found the camera great and the sound is great too...
Running myself launcherpro and the diskspace room 1.45gb to store apps beside the sd.
That's what i hated with my desire lol 148 mb
Battery life is building up nice now after 12 days 38 hours normal usage and heavy 8 hours...
lol and we have gorilla glass too
Bottom line an amazing fast phone just love it.
Sent from my LG-P990 using Tapatalk

The stutter/lag I saw some of seems to be as good as gone after upgrading with all the latest stuff from MoDaCo.

Ok guys just a quick one... Checked out the phone for quite a bit at the retail shop...
First Impressions...
It's both fast & slow at times. However believe that this should be able to be addressed via software eg custom roms etc... Games tried all seem smooth. Opening of apps at times there was lag but it was somewhat random and can't quite pinpoint. Other times it was fast.
Installed Golauncher, ADW and LauncherPro and all seemed to work alright. Do note was just a quick one at the shop...
For those into it...
Quadrand Std - 2600 - 2700 +
Linpack Score - 36 MegaFlops...
Neocore - er sorry don't recall & first time running it... 75???
Nothing else really significant to say except that in a nutshell this phone has potential...

Are you satisfied with your o2x?

I am coming from a SGS Vibrant. Which IMO has one glaring defect, the GPS. And that Sammy is slow to release source and updates. But the g2x seems to have a slew of problems:
-auto shut down
-major battery drain
-Call quality issues
-screen issues
I realize product forums are going to be very heavily weighted with issues but there seems to be so many for the O2x and I thinking about passing.
All devices have areas of improvements but are there any or many owners who are satisfied with the O2x? Could/would you recommend this phone or is it too early to tell, IE hoping LG with fix some issues with updates?

I would also like to know this, I'm coming from a Vibrant and would love to get the g2x when it releases.

i had sgs and dhd and i'am very satisfied with my leaked o2x

SykesAT said:
I am coming from a SGS Vibrant. Which IMO has one glaring defect, the GPS. And that Sammy is slow to release source and updates. But the g2x seems to have a slew of problems:
-auto shut down
-major battery drain
-Call quality issues
-screen issues
I realize product forums are going to be very heavily weighted with issues but there seems to be so many for the O2x and I thinking about passing.
All devices have areas of improvements but are there any or many owners who are satisfied with the O2x? Could/would you recommend this phone or is it too early to tell, IE hoping LG with fix some issues with updates?
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I'm (not) sorry to say, but I don't experience any of these issues.
Battery lasts around 1 and a half day, depending on how I use it. And frankly, that ain't bad at all.
Everyone I've called to say they can hear me fine, and vice versa.
And what screen issues?
And autoshutdown? Never had such a problem..

Very statisfied - it's the best phone I've ever seen.
My specimen has none of the issues I have read about except for very light backlight bleeding.

Dont have any of the listed issues and very happy with my LG
Its a wonderfull phone which will only get better as new firmware are released

really happy aswell, had a few reboots at first but haven't experienced one, in the last 3 weeks. After Paul has started producing rom, the phone has become blistering fast. Came from an iphone, and haven't regretted my swap, fantastic phone

Well, it‘s brilliant to use.
Backlight leak isn't a problem. It's quite minimal. I've had one reboot and one freeze in 2 days. Reboot certainly caused by a bad memory card eject. Freeze was during charge, not happened since. Battery seems good.
If there is a fault and those affected can get repairs or software updates to fix, then living with these niggles is ok. It really is a great phone when its running.
My only issue is no gb yet and i can't root just incase it is a hardware problem.
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Very happy with mine and Paul's ROM just made this device crazy fast. Battery life can improved, hopefully with gingerbread .
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What about the loudspeaker when the phone rings? All the reviews I red said it's very low!

Been using my new 2X for a bit now and haven't noticed anything major. Call quality is more or less like previous phone (ie, fine) and no reboots or hangs yet.
Looking at a black image fullscreen I can see slight bleed from both top corners. Sloppy yes but not a problem for me. My Samsung 24" monitor has way worse bleed all around and that was called "acceptable" by reviewers compared to other monitors.

Mafs said:
I'm (not) sorry to say, but I don't experience any of these issues.
Battery lasts around 1 and a half day, depending on how I use it. And frankly, that ain't bad at all.
Everyone I've called to say they can hear me fine, and vice versa.
And what screen issues?
And autoshutdown? Never had such a problem..
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And that is great. I was hoping that people like you, and others who have posted in the thread, would do just that. On the whole in the general section we mostly read the bad aspects of a device. It's hard to gauge the positives. Hence the creation of the poll. Currently (if you exclude the "show me the results" option)
-65% are satisfied
-15% are not satisfied
-19% say it's too early to tell.
Although the numbers are not optimal, they do paint a much better picture than just reading the problem threads in this section.
Please keep the votes coming so future owners can get a better idea of the scope of the problems, or lack thereof, with the o2x.

It's quite the opposite in the Arc section, people are very satisfied up there

I love this phone! Yes it has some small problems for instance the fact it cant run mkv video's without stuttering is silly but that will be fixed sooner or later. I dont have any problems with it and since paul's custom roms it runs like hell!

I liked the phone, but I had some issues with the LG modded Android firmware the phone came with. Contact list was not syncing properly and I had was annoyed by the crap apps installed and "recommended".
However, I installed Pauls MoDaCo firmware and was amazed how much better it was. Leaner and meaner. More stylish.
I hope a mod will be made quickly off of the 2.4 release with dual core support, but it's very responsive as it is now.
This is my first smartphone so I don't have much to compare with, but I devote a considerable amount of time to tweaking my workstation desktops so I am sensitive to slow devices of all kinds. Hate them..

3 days of use...mostly pleased
Had my LG 2X for 3 days now. Obtained in UK from King of Gadgets.
Had a couple of lock ups during charging, however since setting the phone to stay awake during charging I've had no difficulty. Battery life is good..I'm at 70% after 15 hours mild use.
Apart from the couple of lock-ups I like the phone,..it is fast and smooth. Came from a HTC Hero running 2.2. I did not like the LG skin and look forward to loading some customs ROMs, once I'm convinced I'm keeping it.
hope this helps

Best phone I've ever owned (And I have owned al lot of phones!!).
Only issue, once in like 10/16 days, a autodhutdown...
Doesn't bother me tho.

dhatman said:
I hope a mod will be made quickly off of the 2.4 release with dual core support, ...
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Android has native multi core support already.

SykesAT said:
I am coming from a SGS Vibrant. Which IMO has one glaring defect, the GPS. And that Sammy is slow to release source and updates. But the g2x seems to have a slew of problems:
-auto shut down
-major battery drain
-Call quality issues
-screen issues
I realize product forums are going to be very heavily weighted with issues but there seems to be so many for the O2x and I thinking about passing.
All devices have areas of improvements but are there any or many owners who are satisfied with the O2x? Could/would you recommend this phone or is it too early to tell, IE hoping LG with fix some issues with updates?
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please post your sources regarding these problems, i have found no such claims on the internet

lg o2x
my lg o2x don't have any of those problems.
everything is working perfect.

[Q]Upgrading to 2.3....worth it?

Hello guys,
First i'd like to thank the forum for all the support and knowledge i've gained reading tons of posts
Well i upgraded from 2.1 to 2.2 like 3 months ago, running a custom rom which works fine but it suddenly crashes or some apps hung till i feel like throwing the phone to a wall ( has not happend yet ) so im checking everything about gingerbread and to be honest im feeling tempted to try it out.
here's my main concern, battery life, for the moment my phone manages to survive around 35hours with 3g on most part of the day ( juice defender helped me alot), but this random crashing is starting to drive me mad.
so now, which rom would you recommend for what i've seen darky and juwe's are like the top ones.
so tell me guys, which one would you suggest
this question might sound stupid, but i need opinions to be honest.
Regards
p.d. sorry if i screwed up at writting, ain't my first language

You should just try them and see if any is to your taste. I myself stick to stock roms. Right now the latest 2.2.1 which is rock solid, no complaints and excellent battery life. The gingerbread roms still have some problems and people are reporting battery drain on them although I used a few before and had no such problems.

No
I have been using 2.3 for some time, but I don't think it is worth upgrading. Nothing new in Android and it hasn't been very stable for me. GPS seems to be worse too, getting a fix takes ages.

My experience:
-- battery life far behind (Using Voodoo kernel on Ginger or CM7 VS Hardcore kernel on Froyo)
+ GPS a bit better
+ Better speed (very fluid), but it was already good in Froyo with Hardcore's kernel
+ Web browser a bit better thanks to the improved speed I guess
+ Gtalk with audio and video is possible
As I don't need battery life so much since I'm not on vacation at the moment, I prefer to use Gingerbread daily. I hope that thanks to future releases from Samsung and Hardcore's kernel, or improvements to CM7 we will reach the battery life we had with Froyo someday.
If I was in need of battery life, I would stick with Froyo for now.

To be completely honest, I use custom ROM's anyways, and there isn't a whole lot I notice different in 2.3 over 2.2. I have noticed improved GPS connectivity, and slightly better battery life.
If you are having problems with 2.2, I would suggest making an upgrade.

IMO what you get in 2.3 vs. 2.2 is the Android OS bug. And that's pretty much the only "important" change.
I'm considering downgrading, as a phone with 6 hour battery is useless...

Not sure on some of the custom rom's but was using 2.3.3 XXJVO stock for a couple days and had no trouble, battery life was much the same as what I had to stock 2.2
Trying to get gingerreal working to give that a crack.

I'm on JVO now but I still think JPY is better.
For me, I don't see any significant improvement on Gingerbread over Froyo 2.2.1
I only see some annoying faults in JVO that sometimes I makes me wanna return to JPY.

Iv'e used stock JVB and had 36 hours average on both of the phones we have. Then I moved to Tweaky's JVH based rom and saw an increase in speed, but battery life plummeted to 12 hours without fixes, 24 max with fixes. Went to MIUI 4 for a day and found it looked like a copy of iOS and dropped it like it's hot after 8 hours of playing with it. Now one is on Darky's 10.1 and battery life is improved to 24 hours of heavy use. We skied Whistler last weekend, so music is running, gps on the Whistler tracking app, Bluetooth for the motorcycle intercoms strapped to the helmets for 6 hours at 0 Celsius. And I have yet to apply the fixes recommended in Darky's thread. Wifi is always on as well.
Granted batt life is not nearly as long as stock JVB, but decent enough for what we do.
I've also attached screens of the last 14 hours of usage with WiFi and Bluetooth running. Again without the recommended fixes, and it's still at 84%.

I see more possible cons than pros ill just install a stock 2.3 for the moment if it doesn't work for me ill get back to froyo
Thanks for the feedback everyone
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RorixRebel said:
I see more possible cons than pros ill just install a stock 2.3 for the moment if it doesn't work for me ill get back to froyo
Thanks for the feedback everyone
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Give it a go ....why not?
battery life is excellent "IN MY EXPERIENCE" (don't believe everything you read)...give yourself a fighting chance though...suggest
backup
factory reset with internal USB format
flash
factory reset again
then judge for yourself.
And if you do fancy going custom...yes I can thoroughly recommend Juwe 4.3.1 too

well as we speak im flashing the phone, sadly i bricked it
3 times now lol, thankfully i got my jig in here so the 2.2 stock rom i downloaded from here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846913&highlight=stock+rom) doesn't work or im doing something wrong
sucks getting stuck at sbl.bin....
guess ill first get an stable rom then i can try with 2.3

to be fair my personal opinion is that the latest froyo firmware for me JSD is laggy and this is even with hardcores speedmod which makes things worser :/ so for now im on tweakys AOSP edition which is GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRReat except for battery life and oh yeah the browser on gingerbread is way better than froyo with the exception its slower but smoother

Like some others, I've gone from JPY 2.2.1 to JVO 2.3.3
Honestly, if you're on a 2.2.1 rom, you won't gain too much by upgrading to Gingerbread. It's not like Eclair=>Froyo.
If you're on 2.2 still, then go for it - however, 2.2.1 is pretty much solid with fewer bugs.

well after an evening full of frustration and amusement
im on 2.3.3, ill test it out for couple weeks and will share my thoughts about it
as a side note, Mexican sgs are so freaking hard to flash to GB srsly
thanks everyone

whaave said:
IMO what you get in 2.3 vs. 2.2 is the Android OS bug. And that's pretty much the only "important" change.
I'm considering downgrading, as a phone with 6 hour battery is useless...
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I'd go along with that - though the bug has only appeared once in the last two weeks. Re-booting sorted it. Apart from that I see no other changes.
P.S. My phone has just re-booted itself. Been reported elsewhere I seem to recall!!!!!

I have tried Juwe's Smart edition, simply honey and Darky 10.1 but all of them were slow compared to Darky 9.5 with hardcore's kernel. 2.3.3 wasnt that smooth and it was buggy.
Wtf is that browser? They tried to make it like iphone but stupid Samsung forget that in iphone if u touch the status bar the page goes all the way up. However in 2.3.3 when u read tons of pages, you have to scroll patiently to the top. Its so annoying...
Besides I couldn't see any significant battery saving
So I returned back to Darky 9.5 and very happy with it...

only one reason for me why I use Gb JVH: finally I have a free professional email app! The tab-like mail app from sgsii. works great! all else works just like froyo.
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well im now running 2.3.3 JVH with Darky's 10.1, so far the performance is pretty good
and the battery life is amazing
10 hours up and still 83% left, im pretty happy with the outcome

benoitb85 said:
My experience:
-- battery life far behind (Using Voodoo kernel on Ginger or CM7 VS Hardcore kernel on Froyo)
+ GPS a bit better
+ Better speed (very fluid), but it was already good in Froyo with Hardcore's kernel
+ Web browser a bit better thanks to the improved speed I guess
+ Gtalk with audio and video is possible
As I don't need battery life so much since I'm not on vacation at the moment, I prefer to use Gingerbread daily. I hope that thanks to future releases from Samsung and Hardcore's kernel, or improvements to CM7 we will reach the battery life we had with Froyo someday.
If I was in need of battery life, I would stick with Froyo for now.
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I have to tell, I'm now using the Speedmod kernel and the battery life is much better, on par with Froyo.
So no reason not to upgrade to Gingerbread now

Is galaxy S still worth buying?

I want to buy a phone with SuperAMOLED display. I cant afford galaxy S2 and SuperAMOLED nexus S is not available in my country. So that leaves only the galaxy S.
Now I really dont want to root and all that, I just want a good "stock" experience. I dont care about having the highest benchmark score but I do want the user interface and games to run reasonably smooth in comparison to phones like the nexus S and xperia arc.
I have heard galaxy S is very slow if you dont change the memory system that the phone uses? Is stock gingerbread slow as well?
To a user like me would you rather suggest a nexus S and compromise on LCD?

Get a galaxy s, use stock jvt and custom kernel for reliability and speed. Best of all worlds you can also use a theme to make it look better
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I also think that it's still a good choice, you can get it fairly cheap especially as used device from people that are upgrading to the newer device generation.
The AMOLED screen is awesome! I never want a LCD anymore.
But you're right, the stock firmwares are not the best from a speed perspective. A custom Kernel with a lag fix or Cyanogenmod will increase the speed a lot.
But that shouldn't be a show stopper, as you will get all necessary howto's here on XDA devs.

I just purchased SGS too recently, and here are some of the reasons
- 4.0 inches display, although it is common, but it is better than having a 3.5 inches or less screen
- the GPU at SGS is really really rocking! so supporting ICS isnt really a problem
- Super Amoled Display, which phone can be as cheap as SGS and get it? same goes to Gorilla Glass Display on it, so no protective screen is needed ( at least I am not using it)
- Processor? hhmm... sounds normal, but you gotta love Hummingbird than Snapdragon or else
- front camera, some other phone which has the par price with sgs mostly dont have this, do not underrate front camera, they are useful
edit: u gotta love Super Amoled screen, especially under bright sun!

Nexus S SuperClear LCD version is actually a little cheaper than galaxy S. But it's just that it's not superAMOLED.
It will soon get native ICS which is really the biggest thing in it's favour.
Can someone explain something to me. I have heard the memory system of the galaxy S can slow it down "over time"? What does it mean? It will run smoothly for a few days but then gets slower? Am I over thinking about the memory system and it's not actually that bad? Are there other reputable phones which use it as well?
Sorry for all the questions.

I'm running on a custom ROM (MintBerry MIUI) with Thunderbolt script tweaks and I rarely turn off or even reboot my phone. I haven't noticed any slowdowns after long usage.

I bought used galaxy s from a guy at work because he wanted iphone so it would work better with his mac. And i must say i've been pretty pleased. I used it without any modification several months until i needed more power to get a flash game running and started to overclock it etc..
But even without any rooting and modding its pretty decent phone for "normal" use and right now i might buy it instead of s2 if i had too little money. For now i am temped to buy s2 but with modding to my galaxy s is so good i can skip s2 and buy s3 when it comes out, if there is not a better phone coming

Thanks everyone. So seems like stock unrooted galaxy S gingerbread still runs pretty good and things only improve once I am ready to root and all.
Will be buying galaxy S, SuperAMOLED FTW.

The Galaxy S is not slow at all if you run it on froyo 2.2.1. But on Gingerbread roms, there will be some microlags

Update it to stock firmware called "JVT". This version is rock stable, incredible gaming performance, modem has no signal issues etc.
I am using it, however I am using a kernel and a script, both of which were very easy to install took less than 5 mins and this is the best phone I have used yet.

Only thing i complain about galaxy s is that its slow on browser flash games and without modding and overclocking they don't usually work at all. But then again s2 it works but is laggy. Flash is old and bad and very heavy so no wonder. But without that need of flash i would not much consider of changing to any other phone from galaxy s if i don't got extra money in my pocket.
oh and if you are really cheap a friend got one of those zte phones if i recall the name.. well anyway it had 3 letters and they are slow. Well rooting and modding them they are pretty decent phones to use so you could save some money doing that.

Im very pleased with my Galaxy, before i got this little baby i used to gargle at the top phones all the time.
But this bright charming little thing still got everything i need! Its fast, screen is great, lots of custom roms (including ICS). Battery is good enough if you calibrate iy
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I first had the phone complete stock for a month or two, I'd say it was pretty fast, and I believe it actually never crashed. But then I became to tempted with al the root stuff, and things like voodoo sound. At first I didn't understand at all what a kernel and all that does, and completely panicked when the phone got a bootloop after I flashed something. Ofcourse, after some time you understand what it all means and that sgs is actually really, really very hard to brick. Now I'm try new kernels or Roms every now and then, but I'm really good with my setup now. All that modding and flashing makes the phone faster, but you just gotta need something to understand it.
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Gambler_3 said:
I want to buy a phone with SuperAMOLED display. I cant afford galaxy S2 and SuperAMOLED nexus S is not available in my country. So that leaves only the galaxy S.
Now I really dont want to root and all that, I just want a good "stock" experience. I dont care about having the highest benchmark score but I do want the user interface and games to run reasonably smooth in comparison to phones like the nexus S and xperia arc.
I have heard galaxy S is very slow if you dont change the memory system that the phone uses? Is stock gingerbread slow as well?
To a user like me would you rather suggest a nexus S and compromise on LCD?
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galaxy s with early froyo was slow,with gingerbread is a beast. so hell yeah,it worths buying it