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Daily usage for the LG 2x

Hi all,
For those already using the LG 2x as their daily phone, may i just ask how's the performance in terms of daily usage? Some reviews says it's speedy, so does benchmarks but i have also read reviews that said it should be much better considering that it's dual core and at times, there's some slight stuttering due to the custom froyo skin that LG has.
I'm presently using a Nexus S and it's smooth as butter running custom roms and oc kernel. I'll probably be able to sell off the phone at no loss and top up something like USD120 to get the LG 2x when it arrives in Singapore in the next 2-3 weeks.
Anyone here that have tried both phones and able to provide me with some insights on if i should bother switching? How's the real life use (browsing net, playing music, batt life while playing games etc) difference felt between the processing powers of the two phones?
As it is, the Nexus S can do everything i want except for those Tegra 2 only games. I don't really need a 1080 HD video capability, HDMI mirroring and the 16 Gig space, although limiting is not a deal breaker for me.
Has there been any indications that it'll be able to run custom roms and kernel soon? i know paul from modaco is looking into it at the moment.
Thanks all!

Hi there, I'm also considering between Nexus S and Optimus 2x.
Would appreciate any feedbacks from the users here.

About custom roms - Paul said yesterday that today would be available beta of clockworkmod for download, everything seems that O2X will be great phone for custom roms and stuff Probably there will be functioning Clockwork Mod and developers cooking even before you even get your O2x )

It is lightning fast, and much faster than the Nexus S on stock 2.3. I know because I tried them side by side.
The reviews are correct though, there is some stuttering. I'd say it's annoying as hell, but I'm an impatient guy when it comes to tech-gadgets. I'm sure it's only software issues that will be addressed, either by LG or by custom ROM's.
Sometimes it takes about 5-10 seconds to open the apps list when adding them to the home screen, and sometimes it's as quick as expected.
Sometimes it will stutter while scrolling but most of the time it's smooth as butter. You can clearly tell that there's nothing wrong with the performance because of the smoothness, but there are undoubtedly some serious flaws in the implementation causing intermittent stutter that needs to be addressed.
Playing games is as smooth as I've ever seen. It's simply amazing; There's no stutter or lag AT ALL, so the stuttering you see in the menus seem to be fairly isolated. So far I have tested Angry Birds and AB Rio in addition to Fruit Ninja + Samurai II from Tegra Zone. Samurai II on the TV looks better than a Wii game and is closer to PS3 to be honest.
Another evidence of the incredible performance is the Gallery app. My jaw dropped to the floor when I saw how quick and smooth it is. My Nexus One is like an old Sony Ericsson with Symbian in comparison. If you haven't tried an SE phone with Symbian, consider yourself lucky.

One thing also worth considering is the fact that Froyo is not really optimised for DualCore phones. When gingerbread hits the LG 2x then the speed difference between it and other single core phones should become even more apparent.

the only problem i have with o2x is LG's poor implementation of the LG skin on it. LG's UI w/c i believe can easily be fixed by tweaks/updates or custom roms. that's why im quite happy that g2x will come with vanilla android froyo.
hope LG recognizes the 'MINOR' flaws and stuttering when on the menu/app drawer. but besides that, all other things like browsing, gaming, camera, texting, calling etc are Great and is superior than any other phones in the market as of the moment.

MeX_DK said:
One thing also worth considering is the fact that Froyo is not really optimised for DualCore phones. When gingerbread hits the LG 2x then the speed difference between it and other single core phones should become even more apparent.
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Gingerbread isn't currently optimized to take advantage of the dual core devices either... Hence the information about a version 2.4 of Gingerbread dropping in April. http://goo.gl/b7P0g

I had mine for 8 days now and Im still not used to how fast it is!
My last phone was a HTC Hero, wich I really cant compare it to, but I have played around a lot with iPhone 4, Samsung Galaxy S and Desire HD and my phone eat em for breakfast. Mutitasking games like Angry Birds and Reckless Drivning is really fast and smooth.
Even though 02X dont have 2D accelerated graphics and iPhone 4 does, the smoothness in the menus are pretty much the same.

Amazing fast phone used my old desire (moved to my wife) and it scared the heck out of me found it very slow go figure lol
My son and I uses both the 2x and coming from desires...
Love the screen over the amoled great quality only notice with black when playing not a full screen movie... But the again almost not seen this...
Browsing the net is great and fast deciding which browser to use dolphin mini or opera the latest with flash.
Actually we found the camera great and the sound is great too...
Running myself launcherpro and the diskspace room 1.45gb to store apps beside the sd.
That's what i hated with my desire lol 148 mb
Battery life is building up nice now after 12 days 38 hours normal usage and heavy 8 hours...
lol and we have gorilla glass too
Bottom line an amazing fast phone just love it.
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The stutter/lag I saw some of seems to be as good as gone after upgrading with all the latest stuff from MoDaCo.

Ok guys just a quick one... Checked out the phone for quite a bit at the retail shop...
First Impressions...
It's both fast & slow at times. However believe that this should be able to be addressed via software eg custom roms etc... Games tried all seem smooth. Opening of apps at times there was lag but it was somewhat random and can't quite pinpoint. Other times it was fast.
Installed Golauncher, ADW and LauncherPro and all seemed to work alright. Do note was just a quick one at the shop...
For those into it...
Quadrand Std - 2600 - 2700 +
Linpack Score - 36 MegaFlops...
Neocore - er sorry don't recall & first time running it... 75???
Nothing else really significant to say except that in a nutshell this phone has potential...

I noticed something disturbing on the other threads

O2X Folks,
I noticed something disturbing and more than a little annoying.
It seems that because of the timing of the release of these devices, quite a number of forum posters are comparing the O2X to the SE Arc. Yes, the same SE Arc that runs on a later generation single-core snapdragon and runs 2.3.
Other than the relative timing of their releases to market, is there even an comparison between the two? It's apples-and-oranges all over.
I have BOTH devices and I can tell you now that the Arc is inferior to the O2X in many respects:
1. Dual core really means more. Whereas the stock O2X handily gets about 2,450 on Quadrant, the stock Arc barely gets to 1,300 under the same benchmark. Once you've got Paul O'Brien's ROM on the O2X, you can clock 3,100 -- even the SGSII couldn't clock that score.
2. Reality Display??!The so-called Reality Display on the Arc produces washed-out colors in daily use -- and this is true not just for my unit but the others I've seen. I never realized that reality could look that washed-out
3. Disk Space This never gets enough press and I'm starting to think SE bribed the so-called "professional" reviewers to ignore this: 512MB of disk space is never going to cut it these days. Two years ago, that would have been a monster deal. Today, it's just **meh**. The fact is, market app files are getting bigger and bigger and even with Apps to SD, it's just too limiting when you're really just playing with the 270MB that the Arc has out of the box.
4. Design and Build Quality Sure, the Arc features an attractive and unique design but it's just too... SHINY. After a while, it starts to look tacky with the chrome bezel, whereas the O2X has a statelier, more refined and restrained design with its matte accents and Wenger-toned back. What's more, the materials used on the O2X are obviously of a higher quality -- the Arc's bezel is obviously some cheap plastic that will wear away after a while -- I've had SE Phones dating back to the P900 days and their bezels/sides wore out after a while. I am willing to bet the Arc will be no different. SE is just not very good when it comes to these things -- or it does this on purpose to get you to buy a new one form them. It's also occurred to me that the decision to implement the arc design probably contributed to the lack of storage; a "fatter" chassis would have allowed for more storage modules to be compressed into the body.
Now, the main complaints against the O2X are lags and the quality control that led to some units having bleeding back-lighting. Legitimate ones, to be sure but luckily, I didn't experience the latter and Paul's ROM fixed the former for the most part.
I bring up the custom ROMs because it's annoying that people are posting on XDA complaining about STOCK ROMs when everyone bloody well knows that XDA is the go-to place for custom ROMs. The level of inanity is just seriously grating. Why even bother to come here if you're just going to rant about Stock ROM issues? Do it on the Android forums!
If any Arc/SE Fanboys are reading this: please just stop comparing the two devices. It doesn't work. As a fellow Arc owner, I know you want to justify your purchase but just because it got released right around the same time as the O2X does not mean that they're meant to be compared. I use my Arc mainly as a spare.
If you want to rightly compare the O2X to some phones, this is a much better template: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/15/htc-sensation-versus-the-rest-of-the-dual-core-world-smartphone/

Hey, I am not trying to start a flame war, especially since where I live the Arc isn't even an option. I am just curious as to the difference the dual core appears to make for daily use rather than quadrant scores. My next phone is going to be a dual core phone so I am not trying to start a bickering about single vs dual core. Thanks
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for now im still having se arc in my mind. the software is just so good, also love the skin of SE. a great camera too, its a fast and fluid phone. i like high scores in quadrant (btw 1,3- 1,5k is still a stock rom, so dont be comparing stock to non stock your self), but who gives a crap about them if you can run anything lag-free. of it just looks so plasticky, and too light for me too.
my only gripes on the O2x would be the battery screen bleed and shutdowns that every1 is crying about but probably still gonna try my luck and get it

jpbl1976 said:
If any Arc/SE Fanboys are reading this: please just stop comparing the two devices. It doesn't work. As a fellow Arc owner, I know you want to justify your purchase but just because it got released right around the same time as the O2X does not mean that they're meant to be compared. I use my Arc mainly as a spare.
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I don't own an arc or a 2x but looking into buying a new phone.
Why shouldn't they be compared?
They are both the latest android phones on the market and both are similarly priced with similar dimensions. People looking into buying a new android phone will be comparing these two and other phones to see what works best for them. I say keep the comparisons coming.

ko0l said:
I don't own an arc or a 2x but looking into buying a new phone.
Why shouldn't they be compared?
They are both the latest android phones on the market and both are similarly priced with similar dimensions. People looking into buying a new android phone will be comparing these two and other phones to see what works best for them. I say keep the comparisons coming.
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though they almost have the same pricing,
we can safely say that O2x is more future proof( having a dual core ).
I like SE arc's design but that's about it. overall the O2x is a lot better device. even the camera on the SE arc is not that impressive.

i never thought about LG or SE as one of my future phones but both companies are high on the list now since they offer phones with higher end specs and the liberty to flash new roms without much hassle.
I haven't touched an arc yet but the optimus 2x feels very nice and is a joy to play with, custom (read cm) software will only boost my enjoyment of this phone more and more.
Have been an HTC fan since the hero and i do like their buildquality but every time i try a different brand i'm smacked in the face with some of the details HTC always forgets (screen, speaker, batterylife).
Ofc (at least for now imo) LG has some major issues software wise but hopefully they will be fixed; I'd love to read this message back in a few months and just lauch at it while my LG is purring with CM goodness; this same CM goodness is brightly for SE, less for HTC and (unknown?) for Samsung. The lack of an easy way to root and flash custom roms is why I sweared never to buy a motorola phone ever again after the milestone.
Ofc this will be different for other people, but people are different

[POLL] Your Opinion about The LG O2X so far

Hello,
This is al little poll
Many people are a little bit dissapointed of this phone.
The hardware is very good, but the service from Lg is the main factor why people are dissapointed.
I want to know what your opinion about this device is
What is your opinion about this phone so far?
(look above the post for the poll)

this isnt the best phone ive seen so far, it isnt even the best looking one so far, buuuuut... if we consider that at the date of creation of this phone it was the first dual core ever, with great graphics power and productivity to match, nowadays brands still make new phones that are very simmilar to the o2x if not equal, so id say time passes, things change, but at the time it was being sold, it was quite simply the best phone ever. oh, and at least lg doesnt make phones that look like cheap toys... *cough samsung *cough*
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ohhh i forgot, if you guys wanna blame any1, blame nvidia, coz none, i repeat NONE of the phones out there with the same tegra 2 series as our p990 have oficial ics yet, that would include samsung, motorola and maybe others

Poor battery
bad camera quality
Bad support for Android updates
Laggy and crappy software installed by LG (currently latest Miui very very smoothhhhh)
The rest it is a good peace of hardware.
Format ok
Touchscreen ok
Material used for outside ok
Image ok
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skylinegt77 said:
blame nvidia, coz none, i repeat NONE of the phones out there with the same tegra 2 series as our p990 have oficial ics yet, that would include samsung, motorola and maybe others
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Well said!
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ohhh i forgot, if you guys wanna blame any1, blame nvidia, coz none, i repeat NONE of the phones out there with the same tegra 2 series as our p990 have oficial ics yet, that would include samsung, motorola and maybe others
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You are right
The hardware is fantastic for a phone made about 2 years ago.
But nividia is the main problem.
If they aren't updating the drivers, a custom rom of cm10 will never work as it supposed to be
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rjjcvb said:
Poor battery
bad camera quality
Bad support for Android updates
Laggy and crappy software installed by LG (currently latest Miui very very smoothhhhh)
The rest it is a good peace of hardware.
Format ok
Touchscreen ok
Material used for outside ok
Image ok
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I add Low RAM, and, something that bothers me a lot, is that the screen is asymmetrical, the lower space (between the display and bezel) is huge while the top space is short. I also don't like the protuberant back (very low quality) camera.
On the other hand, the display density is very good, but the IPS does not seem to be very good quality, since viewing angles aren't that good.

dark_sat said:
I add Low RAM, and, something that bothers me a lot, is that the screen is asymmetrical, the lower space (between the display and bezel) is huge while the top space is short. I also don't like the protuberant back (very low quality) camera.
On the other hand, the display density is very good, but the IPS does not seem to be very good quality, since viewing angles aren't that good.
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I like the design of the phone in general.
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Okay so that is my opinion on the LG Optimus 2x or in Germany called "Speed".
I brought the device in the beginning of December 2011, I compared it to my exgirlfriends Samsung Galaxy S2 and similar devices hard and often.
I took it for alot of reasons:
First of all the LG Optimus 2x was way more handy/ergonomical compared to the SGS2, its not too thin, not too wide. It is a bit more like the iPhone. 4' inch is really the most ergonomical size in my opinion.
Second, the device hardware is still a very good competitor to the SGS2, the SGS2 does have HDSPA+ (which isn't even near to be an standard in german cities) and 1GiB of RAM, the Optimus does have "just" 512MiB and HDSPA but therefor the powerful Tegra 2. So paying +100€ more for the SGS2 was just a joke. Also the LG Optimus 2x feels simply better and looks better especially in white, like mine.
Third from the beginning, I didn't cared about the software, cuz its the same with a pre-installed Windows on a Netbook, there is just crap on the device and it's slow, so you are FORCED to clean up, root and install something like Modaco. Same goes for the SGS2.
ICS in general made some trouble on both SGS2 and 3 on the beginning, also that Gingerbread is a very stable software and is in general a very good piece brings me to the question why I should upgrade anyways? I know because it can give us better performance and it looks better, but the device just works, I can write SMS and make calls and battery life is also good. The battery always reaches 24hours easy. Even 48 hours are possible if you are busy with other things than playing around on the device but writing messages both WhatsApp with GPRS or SMS/Phone calls.
For me the LG Optmius 2x is handy, well priced and the software is doing what it should. I had the stock Froyo and Gingerbread each a month from December to February and I only upgraded to a customsoftware because I was bored. Games worked well and I never had problems with the device. I just cleaned up the stock software, thats it! The 512MiB RAM don't bottleneck the device IF you manage and close stuff on your own. YOU DON'T NEED 1GIB OF RAM. It just makes the user lazy to manage the software maybe spying him cuz he installed so many crap like facebook.
In the end I can say, its a good phone. For me it will be in service until 2014 or rather the end of 2014 with or without ICS. Nor the Optimus4x or the SGS3 or the HTC whatever they call it. Will give you more. You still just can write SMS, accept phone calls and use WhatsApp. Just faster? Or because you guys really need to show of you penis lenght? Be effecient and think about it. ^^
At least it rather depends on the user.

draugurio said:
I like the design of the phone in general.
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Same here!!
For me the battery had normal duration like other smartphone.
camera isn't too bad and we have an excellent community support :highfive:
I am very satisfied with my P990

Crap GB ROM!!!
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I agree with N3mesis. Actually GB STOCK and CM7 is quite stable on this phone and battery lasts around 20 hours with moderate usage. In fact presently none of the highend phones gives much over the O2X excepting quad cores and higher RAM. Infact 512 RAM has never posed any problem for me and i have always 50 to 100 mb RAM free depending on roms and softwares used. I dont think quad cores and huge RAMs are required for phones for daily use including a bit of gaming like temple run etc. And regarding ICS it is just my over expectation of getting it as promised by LG makes me feel bad when they are not delivering it.
Only thing is LG knows how to kill their FIRST IN THE WORLD FLAGSHIP phone and destroy fans and customer base.

You guys basically sum up my situation. When I was shopping for a smartphone (coming off a Huawei X3) I looked at the GS2 and the Motorola 4G but this was cheaper, had similar specifications, and felt better in my hand. I also liked the little HDMI port.
I updated to stock GB when I got it, rooted with NVFlash, and used Titanium Backup to remove some of the preinstalled software. Apart from an unfortunate fall which chipped up the plastic trim (didn't chip the glass though) it's been sweet.
Production battery life isn't great but I picked up a couple of 3500mAh batteries on eBay for $16. They'll last a day or more with moderate use and I charge every night anyway.
Of course the problem now is, thanks to the clever people on here, upgrading to another phone becomes increasingly pointless. I'm still on the stock ROM but have a modified kernel that is advertised as making it faster and smoother, and it certainly seems like it does. The battery does seem to drain faster when I'm reading on FBReader, but that could be my imagination. Otherwise it's very good.
Sure, the Galaxy S3 is a better phone, but is it $700 better? For what I use it for, this is more than adequate.
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The xda forums are what keep this phone alive to this day.
Its a good device but I've seen better ones, however not at this price.
The real problem with it, no matter how you see it is lg and their way of treating the device.
This one could profit a lot from a jelly bean update.
Until then however I will stay on WajkIUI ROM and be happy.
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It feels like we paid for HW not SW upgrade with LG
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N3mesis said:
Okay so that is my opinion on the LG Optimus 2x or in Germany called "Speed".
I brought the device in the beginning of December 2011, I compared it to my exgirlfriends Samsung Galaxy S2 and similar devices hard and often.
I took it for alot of reasons:
First of all the LG Optimus 2x was way more handy/ergonomical compared to the SGS2, its not too thin, not too wide. It is a bit more like the iPhone. 4' inch is really the most ergonomical size in my opinion.
Second, the device hardware is still a very good competitor to the SGS2, the SGS2 does have HDSPA+ (which isn't even near to be an standard in german cities) and 1GiB of RAM, the Optimus does have "just" 512MiB and HDSPA but therefor the powerful Tegra 2. So paying +100€ more for the SGS2 was just a joke. Also the LG Optimus 2x feels simply better and looks better especially in white, like mine.
Third from the beginning, I didn't cared about the software, cuz its the same with a pre-installed Windows on a Netbook, there is just crap on the device and it's slow, so you are FORCED to clean up, root and install something like Modaco. Same goes for the SGS2.
ICS in general made some trouble on both SGS2 and 3 on the beginning, also that Gingerbread is a very stable software and is in general a very good piece brings me to the question why I should upgrade anyways? I know because it can give us better performance and it looks better, but the device just works, I can write SMS and make calls and battery life is also good. The battery always reaches 24hours easy. Even 48 hours are possible if you are busy with other things than playing around on the device but writing messages both WhatsApp with GPRS or SMS/Phone calls.
For me the LG Optmius 2x is handy, well priced and the software is doing what it should. I had the stock Froyo and Gingerbread each a month from December to February and I only upgraded to a customsoftware because I was bored. Games worked well and I never had problems with the device. I just cleaned up the stock software, thats it! The 512MiB RAM don't bottleneck the device IF you manage and close stuff on your own. YOU DON'T NEED 1GIB OF RAM. It just makes the user lazy to manage the software maybe spying him cuz he installed so many crap like facebook.
In the end I can say, its a good phone. For me it will be in service until 2014 or rather the end of 2014 with or without ICS. Nor the Optimus4x or the SGS3 or the HTC whatever they call it. Will give you more. You still just can write SMS, accept phone calls and use WhatsApp. Just faster? Or because you guys really need to show of you penis lenght? Be effecient and think about it. ^^
At least it rather depends on the user.
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Im agree with all you said. The phone works like it should must to work. I know that the LG software sucks, but the phone was the cheapest( and the best) than i could get in that moment.
The moderator can already close this post , there are not more to say, N3mesis said all.
Srry 4 my bad english guys!!!
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I think this is a great device... Very capable camera, nice screen, good battery, and feels great in the hand. Only downside is the support we aren't receiving from nVidia. 512MB of RAM is more than enough.... and why do viewing angles... Do you expect yourself to be lying down on your bed and having your phone laying face up on your night stand watching a movie?
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+1

I got this phone second hand about 2 months ago as my first Android phone. I must say that the open source Android world is really vast and awesome. This phone is by far the best phone I've ever owned.
The stuff I like:
+ good screen
+ nice design & build quality (though the bottom part is a bit long imo)
+ fast processor
+ Android of course, and really good devs
+ being "unbrickable" (I've bricked my sis's Galaxy 5 before :/...)
+ value for money
Stuff I don't quite like:
- poor support from LG/nVidia
- battery life, especially on 3G data
- feels heavy compared to other phones
- seems to lack RAM at times (I have lots of stuff installed/running). 1GB would've been nice. - camera could've been slightly better
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This phone has the nest hardware best look and with cm7 it's almost best in software (waiting for cm10 after the official drivers we get)...fir me this is awesome phone in almost every sense...

To all the people that say that the camera is bad, i compared it to my sister's GS2 and it isn't that awfull as you say it is, it is a camera phone! Are you really expecting DSLR quality from a phone? (Just a little side note, some of the people that say that their phone camera sucks just doesn't know how to handle the camera, try to explore the camera settings for a bit to see if you can take better pics.)

Updated benchmarks + battery tests with Nov 13th OTA update!

Engadget has the first update:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/12/nexus-4-and-nexus-10-android-4-2-final-update-adds-lock-screen-w/
Doesn't look like much has changed that much so far...
Anandtech's review:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6440/google-nexus-4-review
Battery still meh if you are a heavy user, and benchmarks still affected by thermal throttling...it's hard to get a proper gauge though because the devices that the N4 is compared to change from graph to graph...I wish there was a consistent comparison with the LG Optimus G
+ve about the build quality and apparently it has been dropped a few times without issues...so could be not bad depending on how it's dropped. Running stock android is also another +
Will update thread with more links as they are posted.

Performance is good enough omg. We want better battery life. But once I have Cm10.1 on my N4 I'll uc the cpu so I have better battery life.
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There were so many posts, that low benchmark scores where because of not final software....
they were all wrong
I bet camera photo and video is still **** @ 9mbps 22FPS

Raw hardware specs do not simply cease to 'exist' because software benchmarks show certain numbers.
We know the specs of the device, the hardware in it is more powerful than the majority of the phones out there, calling this OTA conclusive is still flawed.
Wait a while, or have fun joining in on the XDA arguing that I see as still pointless. The HTC One X forums taught me a lot about benchmarks...

Audioboxer said:
Raw hardware specs do not simply cease to 'exist' because software benchmarks show certain numbers.
We know the specs of the device, the hardware in it is more powerful than the majority of the phones out there, calling this OTA conclusive is still flawed.
Wait a while, or have fun joining in on the XDA arguing that I see as still pointless. The HTC One X forums taught me a lot about benchmarks...
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The problem we're having is with the battery life, not the benchmarks. It's been proven that the poorer benchmark results are due to the CPU overheating and throttling down - which in turn gives it poor battery life - 5 hours video playback vs 8 hours on the Optimus G.
That's why people are dying over the new benchmark results, to see if it still throttles down or not.

Daemos said:
Engadget has the first update:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/12/nexus-4-and-nexus-10-android-4-2-final-update-adds-lock-screen-w/
Doesn't look like much has changed that much so far...
Will update thread with more links as they are posted.
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Still sucks ...
I think I will hold my purchase till got clarification what's the true story about this under-performed S4 pro compare to LG G9.
My GNex is still more than capable anyway.

omersak said:
The problem we're having is with the battery life, not the benchmarks. It's been proven that the poorer benchmark results are due to the CPU overheating and throttling down - which in turn gives it poor battery life - 5 hours video playback vs 8 hours on the Optimus G.
That's why people are dying over the new benchmark results, to see if it still throttles down or not.
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Agreed. Call it early indicator if you will. If the benchmarks shows abnormal activities compared to sibling LG Optimus G than we have a problem. It also possible that Engadget's N4 has thermal problems like Anandtech but they didn't put in the fridge to proved thermal problems since both websites early benchmarks are equally crap compared to The Verge.

omersak said:
The problem we're having is with the battery life, not the benchmarks. It's been proven that the poorer benchmark results are due to the CPU overheating and throttling down - which in turn gives it poor battery life - 5 hours video playback vs 8 hours on the Optimus G.
That's why people are dying over the new benchmark results, to see if it still throttles down or not.
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I hear what you're saying, but no other phone runs 4.2 from Google does it? I'd wait till later this week when we have many rooted devices, custom ROMS/kernels and what not.
The software HTC shipped the One X running on was an unoptimized mess (which also had heat issues).
The people storming around shouting conclusive and saying the phone has hardware issues only serve to make people fearful at this stage where it is too early to be conclusive of any hardware issues. Software issues will be aplenty on a launch of new hardware.

Audioboxer said:
Raw hardware specs do not simply cease to 'exist' because software benchmarks show certain numbers.
We know the specs of the device, the hardware in it is more powerful than the majority of the phones out there, calling this OTA conclusive is still flawed.
Wait a while, or have fun joining in on the XDA arguing that I see as still pointless. The HTC One X forums taught me a lot about benchmarks...
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But there is a problem if the performance in benchmarks does not add up to what the 'specs' say.
It's like building two identical computers, put one in a different case...one running windows vista and say one running windows 8...
If the hardware is identical, the benchmarks should be VERY similar, if not there is something wrong with the build, hardware, drivers, software etc...and it is not working to it's potential.

This is quite alarming. Agreed with everyone that something is wrong. That's a huge difference: 4984 vs 7628. This might potentially make me wait to see if this some kind of bug. I mean in all seriousness, if I have the same hardware I would like it to perform the same. Google won't admit any wrong doing here either....that's good for ya. Let's hope they see the issue and try to find a fix.
Ugh. What a way to start my day....

new 3,4 kernel guys...give to google some times to fix that.

Well I just ordered one because I'm not really bothered by benchmarks. This is the first phone running on 4.2 and it's powerful enough as it is.
One thing I will point out is (from what I've seen) the N4 beats the Optimus G consistently in Geekbench 2 posting scores of over 2000. We need to ignore the browser benchmarks as chrome is not as well optimised as the old stock browser on Android.
We need to wait and see how the phone matures in time, I don't think there is a hardware issue here everyone is panicking over 2 phones that don't quite match each other...I know if my N4 goes wrong due to some unknown issue I know I can get a new one sent to me from Play so it's not really something that is going to bothering me.
Anyway, who buys their phone on benchmarks?! Are you benching it 24/7? No, so what's the need for you to see how a phone performs in tasks that you would never ever ask it to do in real world situations...

Came across this site:
lwn.net/Articles/524631/rss
(Guess I can't post direct links for now)
Can anyone explain what this CPU isolation actually means and how it translates to actual performance and benchmark scores?

iluk3 said:
Well I just ordered one because I'm not really bothered by benchmarks. This is the first phone running on 4.2 and it's powerful enough as it is.
One thing I will point out is (from what I've seen) the N4 beats the Optimus G consistently in Geekbench 2 posting scores of over 2000. We need to ignore the browser benchmarks as chrome is not as well optimised as the old stock browser on Android.
We need to wait and see how the phone matures in time, I don't think there is a hardware issue here everyone is panicking over 2 phones that don't quite match each other...I know if my N4 goes wrong due to some unknown issue I know I can get a new one sent to me from Play so it's not really something that is going to bothering me.
Anyway, who buys their phone on benchmarks?! Are you benching it 24/7? No, so what's the need for you to see how a phone performs in tasks that you would never ever ask it to do in real world situations...
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Not the benchmark score itself, but the "battery life" ... N4 is worse compared to LG OG, 5 hours video run-down vs 8 hours.
That's what worries me ...

NODO-GT said:
There were so many posts, that low benchmark scores where because of not final software....
they were all wrong
I bet camera photo and video is still **** @ 9mbps 22FPS
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And we are still not at final software. It will be multiple OTAs before we are at final software.
So, there's that.

I believe its a kernel problem. And also, why are you all comparing a jellybean ROM with a new kernel with an ICS one? That's not a really fair comparison in my eyes. That's just my opinion though
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gogol said:
Not the benchmark score itself, but the "battery life" ... N4 is worse compared to LG OG, 5 hours video run-down vs 8 hours.
That's what worries me ...
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ips vs amoled
people hate on amoled but I'll take the battery life..

ziddey said:
ips vs amoled
people hate on amoled but I'll take the battery life..
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Doesn't the Optimus G have same screen as N4?
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0.0 said:
I believe its a kernel problem. And also, why are you all comparing a jellybean ROM with a new kernel with an ICS one? That's not a really fair comparison in my eyes. That's just my opinion though
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More of a fact than an opinion :good:

I thought Optimus G has a IPS screen. Same one in the N4

[Q] 2 Years later... How happy are you with your 4X?

The title says it all!​
I wanted to hear about you guys about how satisfied are you with your Optimus 4x HD ! Say if it matched your initial expectations, long term satisfaction, if you still feel its fresh and not obsolete, how happy are you with LG's support to the phone and if you regret or not having bought it. Oh , and if you feel your battery performance is as good as in the first days !
Bring the debate on !

Hey . I really feel its a better device than it was at the beggining. Everything is more smooth and faster. I prefer official cm sources over p880-dev but the strength goes from those second and there is future. Even if official sources gives fluidity etc i hope p880-dev sources will be fixed from all bugs if it is possible.

I agree. There was a period when Android 4.3 came out until early Android 4.4 (until Demetris got in charge of CM) that I was very desperate and I was thinking of replacing my p880 with something else.
The thing is, now it becomes better and better by the day. Especially with Official CM. It has got to a point that CM11 is smoother and generally better than stock.
Now that we're getting M builds (reference: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55447963 ) I expect that we can finally have something even more stable and reliable than ever!
I think I could keep using this phone until we stop getting official CM support (or until it breaks )

amkirk94 said:
I agree. There was a period when Android 4.3 came out until early Android 4.4 (until Demetris got in charge of CM) that I was very desperate and I was thinking of replacing my p880 with something else.
The thing is, now it becomes better and better by the day. Especially with Official CM. It has got to a point that CM11 is smoother and generally better than stock.
Now that we're getting M builds (reference: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55447963 ) I expect that we can finally have something even more stable and reliable than ever!
I think I could keep using this phone until we stop getting official CM support (or until it breaks )
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Really? I've been feeling exactly the opposite, but I'm using slim bean 4.2.2 because of the battery drain ive experiencied with other roms... What are you using now ? (rom , kernel , special apps )

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Really? I've been feeling exactly the opposite, but I'm using slim bean 4.2.2 because of the battery drain ive experiencied with other roms... What are you using now ? (rom , kernel , special apps )
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Oh yeah, battery drain is definitely higher on everything 4.2+
I'm using what my signature says, but I don't mind charging my phone a lot. It usually makes throughout a whole day (barely). Sometimes it doesn't.
I'm not using any special apps for the time being. I used to use Tegra Overclock, but since I stopped using iodak/cyodak, I don't really need it.
If battery is something that you're really concerned about, stay on 4.2. Otherwise, if you're willing to sacrifice some of that in order to get performance, features and the latest version of android, Official CM is worth checking out!

For me it is another time the community is great.
2 years ago, the stock LG was crap, locked bootloader etc...
Now, CM11 is starting to work correctly (i mean, all the bugs are fixed, and we could enjoy a really different experience), OmniRom, and a lot of others.
I'm simply angry LG did not support / open source everything they could after 6 / 8 months. The smartphone is not updated after this time, and some spent hours of hacks to make it supported.
Kudos Demetris, Lauffenstepenwolf, Adam77 and others.

Graveen said:
For me it is another time the community is great.
2 years ago, the stock LG was crap, locked bootloader etc...
Now, CM11 is starting to work correctly (i mean, all the bugs are fixed, and we could enjoy a really different experience), OmniRom, and a lot of others.
I'm simply angry LG did not support / open source everything they could after 6 / 8 months. The smartphone is not updated after this time, and some spent hours of hacks to make it supported.
Kudos Demetris, Lauffenstepenwolf, Adam77 and others.
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Totally agree with you. The official support of our phone was crap, without the development of our great developers I think I would have ditched this phone long ago. After 1.5 yrs of using the phone, I think custom rom is the major force that keep 4x users, while official JB just drive them away.

I am satisfied, but the device is nearing end of its life cycle for me. I knew if i chose this device, I'd choose good hardware for lackluster official software support, so I hoped for an active devs to bring us latest android builds bugfree, and that's what they did, to everyones delight ;p

Flashed device 1/2 hour after I purchased it. Original LG ROM was awfull. Worked fine on cm10, works even better on the new cm11 snapshot. Thanks @Demetris I'll gonna keep p880 as long as it will work
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im no so happy because battery life terrible, gps is terrible, camra like 5 mpx

The battery is really bad, the phone is not as smooth as is should be, APN not very good...
I use it since 2 years, and at the end of the year i will change it !
Probably for a Nexus 5, or Xperia Z1, Moto X (2013) or OnePlus One
But thanks to this amazing community :victory:

Yeah same here, terrible battery, constant lags, touchscreen accuracy issues and a lot of little things that ultimately add up to make for an awful experience all around.
Can't wait for the OnePlus One to get officially released without the need of an invitiation so I can leave this pile of trash and regret behind.
Now to be fair to the devs, ROMs have improved a great deal recently but no piece of software in this world can save this phone.
Only good thing is that you can use it as a hand-warmer in the winter since it always gets so hot.

Apart from battery life, and ultra weak camera, i like the phone...design is good, screen is good, performs well for me.
But battery and camera are MAJOR flaws. i will change this phone as soon as i can.

I have had my Optimus 4X for almost 2 years (will be 2 years at end Oct)
Initial Expectations
Yes it did meet them when I bought the phone. It was fast had an awesome screen removable battery and removable storage.
It has also been brilliant at streaming media to/from compatible devices and plays most types of media files
2 years later does it meet expectations? The phone does what I need it to do but sometimes is a bit frustrating when it wants to pause/freeze so no it is not quite meeting my expectations atm
Long Term Satisfaction
After LG dropped software support and concentrated on their G2 and G3 I'll admit I did feel my device was feeling a little obsolete!! But I have a Galaxy S and S2 running KitKat and will be installing custom ROMs on my LG soon to bring it back up to date and give it a new lease of life
It's quite rugged taking a few drops with little or just bezel chips
Camera - Takes good quality pictures and video
Battery life isn't anywhere near as good - it's been rinsing the battery especially during gaming.
Bad bits
LG support, yes I have had to send it back at LG's expense but the lack of software support doesn't fill me with confidence!!
Camera takes a whilst to get ready to shoot
Phone can warm up a fair bit espec during some games
There have been times I have almost regretted buying it but having a think about it - No I don't regret it

its ****,
- some plastic lost here and there, power button 50% unresponsive, and 60C when watching videos
but i love it. yeah, this thing has a soul

My 4X looks like new after 1,5 years use. Screen have no any scratch but battery life is shorter about 40%. I always carry it in my pocket without any case. I think that was the best choice for this amount of money.
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Yo estoy muy muy contento con el 4x. Uso la rom de Zaiben que es perfecta para mi. Saludos

For me it is still a nice device.
Even battery works like others of my friends.
(but I use profiles either with pure 2G for telephony and battery saving or 3G-only for surfing)
We have newest ROM state and still 4-5 cores are state-of-the-art and only LTE is missing.
Camera ist working OK, but not high-end
and GPS sometimes great and sometimes bit "curious".
Overall , I am still happy and will wait for bigger differences to newest phones in the market until I will switch.
So, lets hope for further support on our custom-side ... :fingers-crossed:

After 2 years still looks like new device, very satisfied, I am playing with ROMs (MoKee, Beanstalk, Vanir, Nameless, ATM on ZAIBEN RC16), for the time 2 years ago on my opinion best buy device!
Looking forward on new Beanstalk ! :victory::fingers-crossed:

It's okay, just that it gets lagging and heats up very fast.
Using Vanir nightlies and battery drains fast. Looks like time for a replacement battery =(