Couple of questions... - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

New to android world and looking for first rom. On stock Froyo 2.2, rooted, clockwork installed. Which rom can be installed without Odin? Do kernels have to be installed separate, if so, is it before or after rom install? Looking for sense-like ui.
Thanks!!
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If you want sense go buy a HTC lol. Odin is going to be your bread and butter since its the easiest way to flash to stock and flash kernels. Most roms can be installed without odin though. Go to the dev page and look around at the roms and make your choice. Remember Gingerbread needs new bootloaders (except Cyanogenmod and Miui) and as always read read read.

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Couple of ROM questions

Hello, SGS newbie here (phone not actually arrived yet, will be here Monday).
I think the phone looks amazing, only thing I'm not mad on is the iPhone look and feel Samsung have gone for with the home screens, so I'm thinking of either customising it or putting a different ROM on the device. Cyanogen, Darky's and MIUI are the ones I've read about the most.
What is Darky's? Is it more or less a stock Android with LauncherPro, or is it more than that?
Edit: also wondering - is the Samsung Gingerbread ROM worth trying, does it solve some of the performance problems of earlier versions?
Everything is worth trying! If you want to skip the usual newbie routine, then jump straight ahead to an AOSP ROM like CM7 or MIUI... You won't regret it.
Try Tweaky's AOSP
click on my signature to check out Tweaky's AOSP rom - a slim and quick Nexus S (purer Android) look-a-like rom
oh....and I expect your phone will come with GB installed any way...if not, depending on your supplier, Kies may offer you the firmware upgrade when you install it, and despite some reports (in my opinion) it represents a big improvement over 2.2 Froyo.
All the new custom roms are based on 2.3.3 gingerbread any way
Also pretty newbified here, but is it possible to get GB simply on a kernel flash and stay on stock rom, or will i have to flash a custom rom to do this. I have froyo 2.2 but speedmods kernel - pretty happy but would like to try out GB.
wangchung_sucks said:
Also pretty newbified here, but is it possible to get GB simply on a kernel flash and stay on stock rom, or will i have to flash a custom rom to do this. I have froyo 2.2 but speedmods kernel - pretty happy but would like to try out GB.
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Just flash the JVH gingerbread with bootloaders.
STOCK.
wangchung_sucks said:
Also pretty newbified here, but is it possible to get GB simply on a kernel flash and stay on stock rom, or will i have to flash a custom rom to do this. I have froyo 2.2 but speedmods kernel - pretty happy but would like to try out GB.
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Navigate to Ramad's stock rom thread, choice of stock 2.3.3 rom there, both odexed and deodexed
Cm7 is pretty much same as nexus s rom with lots of additions( theme manager,dsp,cyanogenmod settings,etc). You can also try sammy gb roms if you wish( flash with odin,there is guides about it just google) but you have to downgrade the bootloaders before you go back to cm7 ( I bet you will)
Thanks for the info folks. I guess I'll stay on the stock rom at least for a few weeks and get used to it although I reckon I'll use launcherpro with it as I don't like the samsung launcher.
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JVH
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That's something else I meant to ask, what are these three letter codes I see around - are they version numbers for the Samsung roms?
That's something else I meant to ask, what are these three letter codes I see around - are they version numbers for the Samsung roms?[/QUOTE]
ABC ABD ABG versions of firmware build 2.2.1 version ABC followed by ABD etc
samfirmware.com for build list ..
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Need ROM recommendation

Hi all. I'm a long time WM user, but a complete Android noob. My gf just got a Vibrant, and I was able to root and unlock it. I deleted some of the bloat that came along with it.
I'm going to get a Captivate very soon (it's stock ATT). I know the phones are almost identical, but I would like to get a stripped rom. Think Da_G's Fuze and Jacko's Rhodium.
What would be a good rom for me to start with? With WM, you would just flash a rom and be done, but with Android, I notice there are both roms and kernels. Which would I need? And what order do I flash them in?
Thanks in advance for any help and info.
a. this is the dev section, meant for posting roms/kernels and not for asking simple questions
b. a rom always comes with a custom kernel
c. since there's dozens of roms you're going to have to look at its features/themes and decide which one suits you best.
Need to learn where to post properly.
Sorry - can a mod please move this to the general section. But thanks for the info regarding roms/kernels.
Start with Cyanogen first.
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dont post here blah blah...
read the rules first blah blah...
Id go with a Froyo ROM first, i went with Mikeymike's Serendipity 6.4 for me first, super easy to do it and much less can go wrong. never soft bricked my phone on a froyo ROM.
then when i went to gingerbread i went with Mikymike's Serendipity VII, soft bricked it 3 or 4 times. i recommend getting a JIG or making ur own JIG before doing a gingerbread ROM.
First rom, avoid gb roms. Do not mess with boot loaders until you understand your phone. Froyo roms, cm7, miui
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mcord11758 said:
First rom, avoid gb roms. Do not mess with boot loaders until you understand your phone. Froyo roms, cm7, miui
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+1 best advice of them all , personally im biased .. (read my sig )
although I disagree , cm7 and miui is not somethign for starters .. read the Cyanogen OP it clearly states its not a rom to start with ..
for the rest .. best advice is to try them all and se what works best for YOU.
You are correct about cm7 and miui, and you make great roms
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Although CM7 and MIUI are great Roms.. Go with Serendipity. Start with Froyo then go to the Gingerbread version.
Personally, it's the most stable and has never done me wrong.. But then again it's all up to the user.

[Q] Can I get back to 2.2.? from 2.3.3?

So, I am thinking about putting custom ROM to my SGS i9000. Its currently with Android version 2.3.3.
I've been reading through this forum and most of custom ROMs are for Froyo? I mean many of instructions say that you have to be on Froyo if you want to use this ROM.
My question is must I get back to Froyo somehow or is it possible to put custom ROM for my current Android version?
Sorry about my noobishm. And I hope my english is good enough for you to understand.
Many thanks
-Jani
Check out the link in my signature.
Wrong, most of the custom roms are based on gingerbread. Stay as you are mate more excitement to come
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You can always switch between 2.2. and 2.3.x. The only thing you need to pay attention to is that you need to flash the proper bootloader.
Flashing a bootloader is risky insofar as if the bootloader is not flashed properly, your device is thoroughly bricked and can only be revived by Samsung (or someone with the proper hardware). Furthermore with Froyo you may erroneously flash a locked bootloader which would make you stuck with that one ROM for the rest of your device's life, so make sure you only flash unlocked ones.
This said, there are actually few ROMs out there that still rely on Froyo (Insanity comes to my mind as an example). So you probably won't need flash Froyo just because of custom ROMs. Simply follow DonVito2020's link and choose a Gingerbread one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1221298&page=2
Look at the fifth comment. Nice instruction, but is it safe one?
I'm gonna try it if it is.
Erakko said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1221298&page=2
Look at the fifth comment. Nice instruction, but is it safe one?
I'm gonna try it if it is.
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It looks like a good how-to. Whether it is safe or not I cannot tell without looking into the files, however since the post links to Gingerbread ROMS, not Froyo ROMs, it is most certainly safe, as far as the bootloader is concerned (at least I have never heard of locked Gingerbread bootloaders for the Galaxy S).
Though since you are already on stock Gingerbread, take a look under at the Baseband Version under Settings - About Phone. The last three letters will tell you which release of Gingerbread you have. In my case the baseband is I9000XXJVR, so I have JVR.
If you already have JVQ or JVP, you can flash the kernel and then Darky's Rom directly. Just don't forget to backup everything.

[Q] Rogers stock Froyo to ICS. Some questions?

I've currently got Rogers stock 2.2 Froyo running on my i896. I rooted it and replaced the 3e recovery with the modified recovery so I can run CWM Recovery on it. I also unlocked the phone by modifying the nv_data.bin file.
Now I want to upgrade to ICSSGS. A few questions:
1) Should I first upgrade using Kies to Rogers 2.3.3? What ill effects, if any, will that have to my 3e recovery, my nv_data.bin unlock, and the root?
2) What system files should be backed up before upgrading to ICS custom ROM? EFS files, etc?
3) Is it possible to go straight from Froyo to ICS? The ICSSGS installation instructions mention requiring Gingerbread.
Thanks in advance
Don't bother with kies.
No need to go to gingerbread first, and going to stock gingerbread will undo you're 3e replacement and root.
just flash ics from froyo.
It's always recommended to have multiple backups of your /efs folder in several locations.
I've read that people have a lot better results if they go to cm7 first, then go upgrade to ics. Since almost everything is based on team hacksung.(Cm9 I would go to that ics first.
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shaker2k said:
I've read that people have a lot better results if they go to cm7 first, then go upgrade to ics. Since almost everything is based on team hacksung.(Cm9 I would go to that ics first.
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Why would that be though? Any logical explanation to that theory?
Well my guess is that because cyanogen has done cm7 so well and stable. most ics builds are based on their work with cm9. It's kind of just a natural progression.
I've also read some dev's suggest doing it this way.
Also I did it this way and have had almost none of the problems that other people have.
I've never had a sleep, or charge death. Never had the data data bug. Never had the data signal bar always full bug.
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shaker2k said:
Well my guess is that because cyanogen has done cm7 so well and stable. most ics builds are based on their work with cm9. It's kind of just a natural progression.
I've also read some dev's suggest doing it this way.
Also I did it this way and have had almost none of the problems that other people have.
I've never had a sleep, or charge death. Never had the data data bug. Never had the data signal bar always full bug.
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Interesting, thanks for sharing your experience. I might go ahead and try flashing CM7 first and then one of the ICS custom roms.
loonieryan said:
Interesting, thanks for sharing your experience. I might go ahead and try flashing CM7 first and then one of the ICS custom roms.
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No problem. Good luck!
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actually it used to be part of the instructions to flash CM7 first.
CM7 CM9 and ICS use a different partitioning table and call partitions by different names, CM7 used to be the only one, and has a conversion script.
now most of the more popular ICS base roms include the conversion script.
read the instructions for each ICS you look at.
some have no requirements but CWM, some require flashing CM7 or any other ICS rom first.
coming from pure stock froyo you want to flash a CWM3 kernel with odin, then reboot to recovery and flash the ICS rom off your sdcard.
read the how to flash captivate roms sticky, also found in my signature.

[Q] Captivate decision: Stock Gingerbread or CM7

Hello all-
This is my first post here, so go easy on me
Well, I am Samsung captivate user on AT&T. I am currently running 2.2 rooted. My question: Should I upgrade to AT&T's gingerbread and try to root in there, or should I just pull the trigger and go to Cyanogenmod?
It seems rooting in 2.3 is not the simple SuperOneClick that it was for 2.2, and rooting with odin actually seems MORE complicated that flashing CM7 (And I guess more risky with multiple kernel flashes, yada yada yada). I am just thinking the less steps, the safer it probably is.
I am also liking all of the features of Cyanogenmod, epically the gesture app launching from the unlock screen.
In this How-to, the guy says to download the latest nightly build. Will it work the same if I choose the 7.1 stable release (I'm going for having whatever option I choose to be my daily use (I'm not gonna be flashing ROMs every month or week)):
I'd like to post it as a link, but xda is hating me and thinks I want to spam them D) so it is youtube at watch?v=iBPu-GqM9RE
What do you guys think?
PS I'm pretty sure you can, but using Titanium backup you can just "restore" all your apps just like that, correct?
If you are still on 2.2 you are way behind the curve.
There are some things you need to know. CM7 is a great ROM but is going to be replaced eventually by CM9 as everything is progressing towards Ice Cream Sandwich based ROMs. Gingerbread is an easy upgrade done through kies even with your rooted phone. It will flash the gingerbread bootloaders that are necessary to flash all gingerbread and some Ice Cream Sandwich based ROMs. Also, if you do choose to go to gingerbread, the kernel flashing process to root is very safe and very straight forward.
Lastly, I highly suggest getting away from a stock rom and flashing a custom ROM. It will make your phone feel like a new device compared to a stock ROM of any build. And yes, you can restore with Titanium Backup but remember to only restore the apps not the data.
Ive seen multiple guides for the stock gingerbread on captivate rooting.
Could you please point me towards the right one? I wanna make sure I dont try something outdated, wrong, ect.
Also, even if I choose to go to CM9 in the near future, should I still upgrade to the stock gingerbread right now and root? Will staying on 2.2 rooted make the CM9 flash easier ( I don't have clockworkmod recovery yet, if that matters ) or will having the 2.3 stock on it make the entire process easier?
Thanks!
From 2.2 Stock you can flash directly to CM9 without changing your boot loader to Gingerbread. That will put you straight to ICS 4.0.3. However your first step is to install CWM. But yes definitely get away from stock!
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So there is no advantage to going to stock 2.3 in terms of flashing CM9 (start to finish)?
Here is the thread on how to root gingerbread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21375771
Cm9 as well as most all ice cream sandwich roms are still in beta phases so keep that in mind. If you absolutely have to have 100 percent reliability then a beta ROM is not for you.
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capocaccia said:
Here is the thread on how to root gingerbread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21375771
Cm9 as well as most all ice cream sandwich roms are still in beta phases so keep that in mind. If you absolutely have to have 100 percent reliability then a beta ROM is not for you.
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+1 to everything they said in posts above.
The only thing I would add is that while the CM9 build is beta (alpha actually) it is VERY stable. Many folks, myself included, use it a our daily driver with no real issues.
In any event, by all means, get off of stock and onto CM. You'll love it.
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Heres another thought, what is the chance that I will brick my phone, honestly, so bad it really stays just a brick?
I am just scared, as I have another 10 months till I could even consider a phone upgrade and I like the fancy android phone I have now!
If you follow the instructions then chances are pretty low. Just make sure to read and read again. Ask before you go too far. The safest way I say is to use kies to upgrade to gingerbread because that flashes the bootloaders for you. Then you can go anywhere you want from there. That is if you want to go the gingerbread route.
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dellagd said:
Heres another thought, what is the chance that I will brick my phone, honestly, so bad it really stays just a brick?
I am just scared, as I have another 10 months till I could even consider a phone upgrade and I like the fancy android phone I have now!
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You will only get a true brick if you fail during a bootloader flash. Most other "bricks" aren't really bricks at all, and can be easily recovered if you can get into download or recovery, which is usually the case.

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