Want to change my phone - need opinions - Off-topic

Hi
I know this is not P500-related but I really need some opinions as I am really confused.
I want to change my phone in october (waiting for my contract to expire so I can change it) and I want to change my phone also. So, these are the phones I'm considering (prices for the contract I will most likely get, but probably I will get a bigger one so the phones will be a bit cheaper)
- Sensation - 289eur; really like this phone, I love the way it feels in my hand, nice build quality, nice design, nice resolution (but not very bright). Cons: not as fast as a dual-core should be, risk of having the famous display bug (50-50 odds as I read)
- SGS2 - 379eur; fastest there is, gorgeous colors on the display, 21mbps hsdpa. Cons: doesn't feel nice in my hand, crappy plastic case (when you buy a premium phone you expect great quality).
- Xperia Arc - 239eur; gorgeous phone, I simply love the way it looks, great display and good build quality. Cons: 320mb internal mem, 1ghz single core (not a big con, the way this phone looks simply makes for it)
- Incredible S - 249eur; not sure if it's worth over the Xperia S but I'm considering it anyway
What I want from a phone: first of all I want it to be a good phone, so I don't want crappy in-call quality and signal issues. Second, I want it to look and feel good, after all I'm spending money on an object so I want it to be well-made.
I don't want to mod it, the only reason I'm modding my O1 is because it's too slow with stock rom. I want a phone that doesn't need modding.
I can only buy phones from Vodafone RO, so I'm pretty limited in options. I would love a Sensation XE or Arc S but I don't know when or if vdf will sell them.
I put SGS2 on the list but I don't know if it's worth the 90eur difference, especially because I need to change the tires and the brakes on my car so I have other pretty important things to do with extra money.
So I'm waiting for your advices or other suggestions (for other vdf phones: https://www.vodafone.ro/personal/internet-oriunde/internet-pe-mobil/smartphones/index.htm - these are some of the phones in the vdf deals, other phones are too pricy with a contract)

too much to read for me^^

22VIN said:
Hi
I know this is not P500-related but I really need some opinions as I am really confused.
I want to change my phone in october (waiting for my contract to expire so I can change it) and I want to change my phone also. So, these are the phones I'm considering (prices for the contract I will most likely get, but probably I will get a bigger one so the phones will be a bit cheaper)
- Sensation - 289eur; really like this phone, I love the way it feels in my hand, nice build quality, nice design, nice resolution (but not very bright). Cons: not as fast as a dual-core should be, risk of having the famous display bug (50-50 odds as I read)
- SGS2 - 379eur; fastest there is, gorgeous colors on the display, 21mbps hsdpa. Cons: doesn't feel nice in my hand, crappy plastic case (when you buy a premium phone you expect great quality).
- Xperia Arc - 239eur; gorgeous phone, I simply love the way it looks, great display and good build quality. Cons: 320mb internal mem, 1ghz single core (not a big con, the way this phone looks simply makes for it)
- Incredible S - 249eur; not sure if it's worth over the Xperia S but I'm considering it anyway
What I want from a phone: first of all I want it to be a good phone, so I don't want crappy in-call quality and signal issues. Second, I want it to look and feel good, after all I'm spending money on an object so I want it to be well-made.
I don't want to mod it, the only reason I'm modding my O1 is because it's too slow with stock rom. I want a phone that doesn't need modding.
I can only buy phones from Vodafone RO, so I'm pretty limited in options. I would love a Sensation XE or Arc S but I don't know when or if vdf will sell them.
I put SGS2 on the list but I don't know if it's worth the 90eur difference, especially because I need to change the tires and the brakes on my car so I have other pretty important things to do with extra money.
So I'm waiting for your advices or other suggestions (for other vdf phones: https://www.vodafone.ro/personal/internet-oriunde/internet-pe-mobil/smartphones/index.htm - these are some of the phones in the vdf deals, other phones are too pricy with a contract)
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I would go in for SGS2 anyday... wouldnt matter even if i had less $ remaining in my account... forget about the build quality n plastics... those are not something you will be affected with... look at the specs of it...
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luis2luis2 said:
too much to read for me^^
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Then why did you feel the need to post?
Rockr172 said:
I would go in for SGS2 anyday... wouldnt matter even if i had less $ remaining in my account... forget about the build quality n plastics... those are not something you will be affected with... look at the specs of it...
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Bad plastics affect me the most. I like quality things.

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Then why did you feel the need to post?
Bad plastics affect me the most. I like quality things.
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if you like quality things, i suggest going for the htc sensation.
not to mention that the sensation's forum on xda is quite impressive (im talking mostly about the developmental section)
EDIT: just read that you dont plan on modding your phone. but regarding the sensation xe:
http://www.xda-developers.com/tag/htc-sensation-xe/

If I were you, from those alternatives I'd go with the Sensation or Xperia Arc, and then mod it to solve the speed or memory size issue. My brother has a SGS II and I must say I don't really like it, as you say the plastic body doesn't feel nice to hold. Looks wise Arc is the most beautiful.
And I don't know if it's just my brother's settings but the SGSII UI doesn't feel so smooth either, compared to my O1 with CM7.

sgs 2 all the way

sweetnsour said:
if you like quality things, i suggest going for the htc sensation.
not to mention that the sensation's forum on xda is quite impressive (im talking mostly about the developmental section)
EDIT: just read that you dont plan on modding your phone. but regarding the sensation xe:
http://www.xda-developers.com/tag/htc-sensation-xe/
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That's really interesting; even though I said I don't want to mod my phone anymore, that sounds like something worth done.
I just read on gsmarena that HTC wants to make the following changes for Sensation 4G: overclock to 1.5ghz, change the battery. So if HTC will upgrade the non-4G models also I will get a Sensation without second thoughts.
Another plus for the Sensation: Sense UI; way better and more smartphone-like than Samsung's childish iphone-like touch-wiz. But in performance terms Samsung is simply better. I gotta decide if the performance plus matters that much to me...
Thanks for your opinions
By the way - I forgot one important thing: the phone must be updatable to ICS; SE confirmed that the Arc will receive ICE, Samsung didn't say anything but for sure they will update their flagship. HTC also didn't say anything but will there be a reason for Sensation not to receive ICS?

SGS2 is for the moment out of the question. As I said, I have other plans with my money and I don't think that a phone is worth it.
So, I want to make a decision: Arc or Sensation? Is the not-so-fast Sensation worth over the excellent-looking Arc? Price difference: 50eur, so not a big difference. The Arc has an excellent camera, excellent display, gorgeous design and great build quality. The Sensation has the dual-core advantage but it's actually not so fast in real life; sometimes it behaves like a bad 1ghz single core. And there's a thing that bothers me: I closed all the running apps and the remaining RAM was still 150mb (tried on 3 different devices and also saw it in a review).
The only thing keeping me from buying dirrectly the Arc is the 320mb internal memory.

22VIN said:
SGS2 is for the moment out of the question. As I said, I have other plans with my money and I don't think that a phone is worth it.
So, I want to make a decision: Arc or Sensation? Is the not-so-fast Sensation worth over the excellent-looking Arc? Price difference: 50eur, so not a big difference. The Arc has an excellent camera, excellent display, gorgeous design and great build quality. The Sensation has the dual-core advantage but it's actually not so fast in real life; sometimes it behaves like a bad 1ghz single core. And there's a thing that bothers me: I closed all the running apps and the remaining RAM was still 150mb (tried on 3 different devices and also saw it in a review).
The only thing keeping me from buying dirrectly the Arc is the 320mb internal memory.
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Get the Arc then, its almost guaranteed that it will get ICS.
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terratrix said:
Get the Arc then, its almost guaranteed that it will get ICS.
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its already confirmed that all SE xperia phone(2011) will get ICS

Google Nexus One
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Google Nexus One
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Its so fugly
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Nexus one is kinda old. I want a new gen phone. If I wanted an older model I would have gone for the Galaxy S Plus which is only 159eur.
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Just bought the Sensation, really loving it right now
In a way I regret the Arc but this is a phone that will last better in time (considering the specifications). Dual-core phones will get real support and I will be prepared for it
Thanks again for all your help and keep the good development for the p500 (my first Droid so I won't forget it )
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XeactorZ said:
sgs 2 all the way
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No way! Andy and dax are changing their new bought sgs2
Go for Nexus S!
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DJoptimus-One said:
No way! Andy and dax are changing their new bought sgs2
Go for Nexus S!
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they want selling their sgs2 ??
btw im waiting sgs 2 hd lte

XeactorZ said:
they want selling their sgs2 ??
btw im waiting sgs 2 hd lte
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Is there 4g in Malaysia?
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terratrix said:
Is there 4g in Malaysia?
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not sure, but i ask other forumer
it say as long as that phone support gsm, then can use adi
so that means can use
haha
to TS, anyway, happy with your sensation

XeactorZ said:
to TS, anyway, happy with your sensation
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Really happy, after I updated it to 2.3.4 and flash to 10.3 I managed to play flawlessly a 1080p YouTube clip (gsmarena said that it would crash on 1080p, totally not true). The display is great, now the p500 display looks funny )
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Later Edit: here are my toys

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Incredible s vs nexus s vs xperia arc

Hi guys all these phones are coming about same day to Canada. I need help which one to get? Since I need upgrade really bad. Please share you answers.
Thanks
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well if u want my opinion...
no more se.... nomather what they promiss...
erhm nexus s erhm samsung? right.... lol
so the one that remains ur in that section atm i assume
Aren't you a x10 dev?
Hawkysoft said:
well if u want my opinion...
no more se.... nomather what they promiss...
erhm nexus s erhm samsung? right.... lol
so the one that remains ur in that section atm i assume
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Same same as me in Singapore. But I add in LG 2X .
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I wish I could add optimus 2x . But none in states or canada
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There is. The tmo g2x. Google it.oltimus2x variant with stock vanilla 2.2
rockingx10 said:
I wish I could add optimus 2x . But none in states or canada
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Ya but 3g wont work for Rogers and att
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Hey there fellow Canadians
I will NEVER buy another SE phone again after the whole X10 issue... (rogers customer)
I would suggest out of all of them go for the incredible S. Since all the phones your looking at are from different carriers I would also suggest look at the Desire HD.
The desire HD is my current phone. It is the same as the Incredible S, except a Metal Unibody design.
What I would say however..... Wait a few months if you can.
New Android powered devices will be out.
Expect Telus to get em first.
Edit: Stay away from the LG imo. The 2x is pretty laggy from the model I play'd around with. Go watch some reviews of it... pretty badly optimized rom. Rather wait for HTCs new models.
Cause incredible s is coming to bell April 4th and nexus s around 14 April and arc is coming 21st both with Rogers. How you like your dhd?
Maedhros said:
Hey
there fellow Canadians
I will NEVER buy another SE phone again after the whole X10 issue... (rogers customer)
I would suggest out of all of them go for the incredible S. Since all the phones your looking at are from different carriers I would also suggest look at the Desire HD.
The desire HD is my current phone. It is the same as the Incredible S, except a Metal Unibody design.
What I would say however..... Wait a few months if you can.
New Android powered devices will be out.
Expect Telus to get em first.
Edit: Stay away from the LG imo. The 2x is pretty laggy from the model I play'd around with. Go watch some reviews of it... pretty badly optimized rom. Rather wait for HTCs new models.
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I've narrowed my choices down to the same 3 phones (rogers customer)
I'm leaning towards the NS. With the incredible second and almost out of the picture.
Waiting to handle all three in person before making my final decision
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I believe the Nexus S is the way to go on this one. The incredible S from what I hear isn't shipping with 2.3 which is really not as important as the hardware specs but even in that area I might go with the NS. The only thing I really like about the IS is the 8meg cam but overall I'd go with the NS.
Xperia arc sounds promising even my first choice is nexus I think. And incredible s is running 2.2 don't think it would have much dev support on xda.
Sunnyboy167 said:
I believe the Nexus S is the way to go on this one. The incredible S from what I hear isn't shipping with 2.3 which is really not as important as the hardware specs but even in that area I might go with the NS. The only thing I really like about the IS is the 8meg cam but overall I'd go with the NS.
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Hi, I might be out of the line here, but i sold my nexus s to get incredible s, the reason is good build quality & solid user experience, i first used HTC sense when i used hero, that was also very tightly controlled by HTC, but they have done very good job with it, i am holding on to my incredible s & i feel relieved that i got rid of my nexus s, believe me i had gone for nexus s for updates, but that phone is so badly made( according to my standards> u may find it Ok) ( dont make any decision on my comment see for yourself and decide)
but i am happy now
sofia-captivate said:
Xperia arc sounds promising even my first choice is nexus I think. And incredible s is running 2.2 don't think it would have much dev support on xda.
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yes you are right absolutely no support, nobody could even root the phone not even Paul (Modaco.com) AFAIK, but that is added part for me, i am not going to reflash & reflash, i want stable experience.
The Xperia Arc has a pathetic internal memory of only 300+ MB. Note that still a majority of apps doesn't support installation on SD cards. It also lacks a notification LED light and Front-facing cam, not that it's important, but this phone should be future proof.
Plus, I love the overall experience and tweaks of the Sense UI.
As we all can see ... I choose the IS
Why? First of all htc's quality is far better than samsung's ... Hardware wise ... Also sense ... Well sense is just unbeatable ... And for those who care about shipping with 2.2 ... Who cares ... we are getting an update to 2.3.3 in q2 that is this month right ?
So over all the IS is the best choice sense and 2.3.3 are goind to be a crazy combo ...
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Here is a comparison of Incredible S vs SE Xperia Arc vs LG Optimus 2x posted on AndroidSpin.
knightrocker said:
As we all can see ... I choose the IS
Why? First of all htc's quality is far better than samsung's ... Hardware wise ... Also sense ... Well sense is just unbeatable ... And for those who care about shipping with 2.2 ... Who cares ... we are getting an update to 2.3.3 in q2 that is this month right ?
So over all the IS is the best choice sense and 2.3.3 are goind to be a crazy combo ...
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Q2 is anytime between April till June, so we could be waiting till pretty much the start of the summer for Gingerbread
Worth the wait for Gingerbread, you did a wise choice in getting the IS.
chobie said:
Here is a comparison of Incredible S vs SE Xperia Arc vs LG Optimus 2x posted on AndroidSpin.
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could you please repost the link!!

hi, about to buy an optimus 2x, any suggestions?

just broke my galaxy s for the third time, so i think its time to move on. i have to decide to move to an optimus 2x, or an atrix. what u guys think? From what i saw, optimus have a better camera, what means a lot for me, lg have the best cellphone cameras imo. atrix have what it seens a little more speed and more space (16gb)
what do you guys suggest me?
I would not but a LG ever again. Imho Sony camera is much better.
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sony camera is cool too, but locked bootloader and still no dual core phone (or am i late?)
o2x imo is better than the atrix, the atrix has more memory so if that's what your after then get that, i love the design and shape and size of my o2x and if it wasn't for the ****ty lg support and nvidia ****ing with us by holding back vital drivers needed for ICS dev then this phone would be the best iv ever had.
The camera is pretty great iv never seen the atrix camera so cant compare tho.
The benchmarks tests always seem to show the o2x to be ahead of the atrix even tho they both have a tegra 2 chipset.
But with the customs roms this phone is pretty decent, its fast responsive, get a custom home screen and it will be smooth as you can imagine, the lg home screen is rather choppy but i use it because i like the way you can organize apps and games into separate category rather than just throwing them together into a big mess if you can do that with adw or go launcher then someone please tell me how so i can switch.
I only paid £200 for my o2x brand new so i cant complain too much, defo worth it compared to the 400-500 they are asking for that overpriced crap called the sgs2, decent phone.... ****ty price tag, no phone is worth that much.
In Australia there are close to no people using Optimus 2xes due to no one selling them on plans/contracts. Every second person has a galaxy s2 though so they can't be that bad.
I would lean towards avoiding the atrix due to the locked bootloader. Apparently there's a 50% chance of bricking it.
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If you can get it for £300 or less this is an amasing phone with cyangemod on it. Nvidias playing ball now so ics will be brill on here. Theres even rumours that yhe cm team have a alpha build of ics all features working minus camera. Its looking rosey and bright for this phone. I love it plays everything i throw at it, games, vids and music
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paul_cad44 said:
If you can get it for £300 or less this is an amasing phone with cyangemod on it. Nvidias playing ball now so ics will be brill on here. Theres even rumours that yhe cm team have a alpha build of ics all features working minus camera. Its looking rosey and bright for this phone. I love it plays everything i throw at it, games, vids and music
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That for the g2x and since the nvidia hal drivers havnt been released i seriously doubt it works very well.
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ok guys, really thanks! the optimus 2x have an open bootloader right? man i think i flashed my sgs more than 100 times.
better go for the s2..lg support is sh*t
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That for the g2x and since the nvidia hal drivers havnt been released i seriously doubt it works very well.
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It's quite possible that they sent RC what he needed, he's been asking them since day one, and is a serious coder, rather than the 'cook' type 'dev'.
I would say get one, the stock GB is apparently much improved over froyo, and CyanogenMod is just great, that's the reason I bought mine in the first place.
If I hadn't have managed to get a freebie, I'd keep mine.
For its money LG O2X is the best phone.
Please, don't buy that phone!
It's have the worst supported in the WORLD.
Nvidia and LG = S**T
I sell my phone, and Im really happy with that choice.
And I don't wanna see that phone again.
The best choice for you is the HTC, more beautiful and intuitive homescreen, custom roms, etc...
And forget about the Galaxy S2, this only good because the Super Amoled, and Camera, nothing more...
Cumps
ok, so i think i will choose atrix, since sg2 is too expensive for me
infestedd said:
ok, so i think i will choose atrix, since sg2 is too expensive for me
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Lol no don't. the Optimus is better than the Atrix.
infestedd said:
ok, so i think i will choose atrix, since sg2 is too expensive for me
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Wow....have you been reading, gl with that crap an its locked bootloader.
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eraldo said:
Wow....have you been reading, gl with that crap an its locked bootloader.
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Yeah common trend, people ask for advice then ignore it and buy whatever they want. Perhaps this thread will be useful for those whose stumble across it on Google.
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Yes you should buy it, looks great and does what its supposed to in no time. Got mine today and it came with Gingerbread out the box.
gr8 phone..
dude its a lovely phone.. go for it.. with stock gingerbread, its awesome no more stupid issues..
the htc high end smartphones not near as fast like the o2x or the sgs2, the hardware component quality is low, if htc not change that it will be died. maybe the rom is good but it just candy.. if you want a phone what is broken often go ahead and buy a htc. i had many htc, i never ever want again.
sgs2 it will be a good choice if isn't very overpriced. by the way the samsung company almost act like the apple, soon booth company will be in the android users blacklist. o2x is a good choice but the stock lg rom is a crap, you need to flash one of the custom roms!
vadonka said:
the htc high end smartphones not near as fast like the o2x or the sgs2, the hardware component quality is low, if htc not change that it will be died. maybe the rom is good but it just candy.. if you want a phone what is broken often go ahead and buy a htc. i had many htc, i never ever want again.
sgs2 it will be a good choice if isn't very overpriced. by the way the samsung company almost act like the apple, soon booth company will be in the android users blacklist. o2x is a good choice but the stock lg rom is a crap, you need to flash one of the custom roms!
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You obviously havent tried the sensation

About to pull the trigger on a nexus s, convice me otherwise.

I am about to buy a used nexus s (going to sell my sensation after I get it). I hate sense and I really want some of that ics action (I know kmobs is working on it, but the nexus will have support from google + a TON of great devs, not just the 3 working on the sensation cm team).
The reason why I'm posting this is to give you guys a chance to convince me to stay with my sensation. The nexus s seems like the better phone to me, but if one of you guys can convince me otherwise, please do.
P.S. Not trying to hate on the devs over here, it just seems like all of them are so focused on sense, very few aosp roms.
Hello, gonintendo. Can you please provide 5 reasons of why we should convince you to stay. Thank you.
I had the nexus one and nexus s. I took development for granted. Now I'm selling my sensation and waiting for my galaxy nexus to arrive. Not liking what Verizon is doing to the galaxy nexus.
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thebigham said:
Hello, gonintendo. Can you please provide 5 reasons of why we should convince you to stay. Thank you.
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Because you (I assume) love your sensation and the community built around it here on xda? I have convinced myself that I want a nexus s, which doesn't necessarily mean that it's the best phone for me, confirmation bias is a *****. Perhaps there is something huge that I am overlooking that would make it worth my while to stick with my sensation.
Had it before this phone. Main reason I never picked it up again is the screen. Its terrible.
Kinda wish I'd kept it for development though. O well
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Assuming you know the specs, but anyways...
Dual core
8mp camera with 1080p
larger screen with higher resolution
Option to run sense or not
ICS will come, and with that many more AOSP type ROMs
Plus tbh... I think this phone will run much better once it has ics support... It doesn't yet and the nexus s is smooth... But if you want simile specs minus quite as much dev support just get a vibrant probably for half price of the nexus...
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Nexus s is a great phone. Awesome audio chip, camera rocks despite lower pixels. I loved it. I bought tgis phone for the bigger screen.
I had a Nexus S for a week,talk about a **** build, I hated it, plastic kills me. I couldn't use it. Too vanilla for my taste and THAT plastic.
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Just get the nexus. You'll probably be happier.
If this phone isn't doing it for you, you should sell it and get what will satisfy your needs. Don't concern yourself with what others think.
aNYthing24 said:
If this phone isn't doing it for you, you should sell it and get what will satisfy your needs. Don't concern yourself with what others think.
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I'm never happy with any phone, I have ocd lol. Thanks for the advice guys, I think I'm going to go for it.
Screw the Sensation, it has so many buggs it makes me sick. I regret buying it
What is this, a forum filled with angsty teenagers, threatening to switch their phones? Nobody cares if you switch, go ahead and do it if you're not happy with it! This isn't a religious group, it's a dev forum.
Seems like the new HTC models have pissed off people who simply must have the latest technology....
gonintendo said:
The reason why I'm posting this is to give you guys a chance to convince me to stay with my sensation. The nexus s seems like the better phone to me, but if one of you guys can convince me otherwise, please do.
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the only thing thats stopping me is Nexus/S does not have micro SD card capability
( some one correct me if I'm wrong about it )
gonintendo said:
I hate sense ...
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I think that pretty much sums up your justification, provided that the cost to change phones is a non-issue.
one thing I see is "I hate sense". I say sell it why own an htc device knowing your getting sense..
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FnH84 said:
What is this, a forum filled with angsty teenagers, threatening to switch their phones? Nobody cares if you switch, go ahead and do it if you're not happy with it! This isn't a religious group, it's a dev forum.
Seems like the new HTC models have pissed off people who simply must have the latest technology....
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I'm not asking you to care, I am trying to make an informed decision. Relax, I sense some angst in your post.
jam34 said:
one thing I see is "I hate sense". I say sell it why own an htc device knowing your getting sense..
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I had never used sense prior to buying the sensation. I had played with sense 2.x on a buddy's thunderbolt and I actually liked it quite a bit. I don't know what they were thinking when they put 3.0 together. Everything about it is slower, uglier and less usable than the previous version imo.
Seems like a massive downgrade to me. Maybe I am wrong... but... I doubt it

Lg Optimus 2x or iPhone 4 16GB?

Hi There.
I am wanting to upgrade from my Nokia 6500s, as the screen just happened to crack last week.
So should i get the O2x for £250 New
OR
Should i buy my friends iPhone 4 for £270 as he is looking to buy the 4s
Looking For some advice from owners of the O2x
(This is my first post here, be nice )
Avfcman said:
Hi There.
I am wanting to upgrade from my Nokia 6500s, as the screen just happened to crack last week.
So should i get the O2x for £250 New
OR
Should i buy my friends iPhone 4 for £270 as he is looking to buy the 4s
Looking For some advice from owners of the O2x
(This is my first post here, be nice )
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Iphone= no customization+apple = lame
o2x has alot of faults but hopefully when nvidia release there drivers and we get a decent build of ICS those problems will be a thing of the past. But in the mean time there are alot of fun roms and kernels and various customizations you can do to make it very entertaining.
But if you don't like that stuff and don't mind apple **** then go get ripped off.
eraldo said:
Iphone= no customization+apple = lame
o2x has alot of faults but hopefully when nvidia release there drivers and we get a decent build of ICS those problems will be a thing of the past. But in the mean time there are alot of fun roms and kernels and various customizations you can do to make it very entertaining.
But if you don't like that stuff and don't mind apple **** then go get ripped off.
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Well i have had a iPod Touch 3RD Gen, it was always Jailbroken, though am looking a change from the usual "Oh Look at this thing, its amazing, even though Android has already had it" But i do like how everything just works.
Though, having something that runs android would give me a change to mess around with things and tinker, which i like to do
Just need to make a decision before the 11th
The IPhone is a good fone and we wouldn't be where we are now if we didn't have the IPhone. That being said, I don't like IPhones as they are closed, too expensive, don't prevent wifi dropping (on standby) if your on a data allowance, over rated..
I work for O2 in the UK & all the time see the down falls compared to Android. I personally chose Android due to the open'ness and customization... The IPhones are smooth though but it all depends if your into making YOUR fone YOURS & Personal ;-).
I hate Blackberries more though lol as you either need to do a battery pull every 2 minutes or the Host Routing Table lol.
Its just my opinion but have a play with them both .
nk7600 said:
The IPhone is a good fone and we wouldn't be where we are now if we didn't have the IPhone. That being said, I don't like IPhones as they are closed, too expensive, don't prevent wifi dropping (on standby) if your on a data allowance, over rated..
I work for O2 in the UK & all the time see the down falls compared to Android. I personally chose Android due to the open'ness and customization... The IPhones are smooth though but it all depends if your into making YOUR fone YOURS & Personal ;-).
I hate Blackberries more though lol as you either need to do a battery pull every 2 minutes or the Host Routing Table lol.
Its just my opinion but have a play with them both .
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Thanks for the Feedback, its much appreciated.
I already know how iOS works and all, and seem too like the idea of android. will be sure to test out the O2x if i get it, to see if i like it
Avfcman said:
Thanks for the Feedback, its much appreciated.
I already know how iOS works and all, and seem too like the idea of android. will be sure to test out the O2x if i get it, to see if i like it
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You will love it, its so much more customizable than any "i" device, seeing as you already have an ipad it makes no sense to get an iphone as well.
Try not to judge the o2x on it stock rom it kinda sucks, imediatly flash a custom rom and kernel and you'll have a blast it'll be fast and smooth but don't expect it to be aa smooth as the i devices remember android is an OS within an OS.
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eraldo said:
You will love it, its so much more customizable than any "i" device, seeing as you already have an ipad it makes no sense to get an iphone as well.
Try not to judge the o2x on it stock rom it kinda sucks, imediatly flash a custom rom and kernel and you'll have a blast it'll be fast and smooth but don't expect it to be aa smooth as the i devices remember android is an OS within an OS.
Plus we have both flash and html5 support apple rejecting flash had nothing to do with performance issues it was to do with itunes and other crap that's why i HATE apple and won't ever buy an apple product.
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The reason why i didnt even bothered with the iphone 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
Hi,
There is a pretty nice comparision of the 2x and the Ione on youtube... When i remember correctly it is from androidcentral ... Have a look at it, mightbe interesting for you.
Regards
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man, i owned the iphone4 and my brother have the 4s and my youngest have the gs2. honestly, they are realy jealous on my o2x, the speed, customization, stability, and the devs are very supportive.
go for o2x! cheaper than gs2 but i think gs2 is a little better. buy hey, i love my o2x!
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jefbeck said:
man, i owned the iphone4 and my brother have the 4s and my youngest have the gs2. honestly, they are realy jealous on my o2x, the speed, customization, stability, and the devs are very supportive.
go for o2x! cheaper than gs2 but i think gs2 is a little better. buy hey, i love my o2x!
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Yeah, I'd personally go for an O2X too. But seeing that the other option is an IP4, I'd take the O2X hands down. The IP4 is going to get old real fast once the IP5 is released Q2 to Q3 this year.
While the O2X is scheduled for ICS Q2 of this year. (give or take 2 quarters) lol.
If... the option was between the IP4S and the O2X though, I'd have to choose IP4S.
I have a optimus 2x. Bought it some days ago. By use its amazing. I accept that its software has some glitches but who has not? And moreover when you get a good hardware you should not really worry of software, as you will get it , its a open source.
I like apple as a media source. You told you have a ipod touch. I think its more than enuf from apple. You can enjoy there OS there touch feel and the apps. But apple doesnt allow you to do much customizations. It doesnt five yoi the degree of freedom android gives. So i would siggest you. Go for optimus 2x rather than Iphone 4 because you already have a iox device ipodtouch.
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Hello!
It is always about your needs...
But I see one big problem with the iPhone 4 16GB – your stuck with these 16GB and from my personnel experience this isn’t really much. I ordered a 32GB SDHC the moment I ordered my LG P990 and it is almost full including the build in 8GB… I actually very tempted to try one of the 64GB SDXD cards available – will order one and try it when the prices come down little more.
And compared to an iPhone 4 the LG P990 should be faster – I have seen some tests on youtube – but don’t have a link handy right now – and these tests where actually with the stock browser on stock rom…and custom roms are even a lot faster.
The rest is about taste…
IMHO Android is more versatile and I like the UI concept more, but this is purely dependent on what you like.
My tip go to some store where you can actually touch the phone and play around with it a little – even though the LG P990 is on stock not as fast ass it could be, but you get a basic idea of the look and feel.
I made this comparison between iPhone 4, SG2, HTC Sensation and LG P990…now guess which phone won…
salisbury_steak said:
If... the option was between the IP4S and the O2X though, I'd have to choose IP4S.
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much smaller, and little bit better
Heh you know if you asked this in the iphone section or a more iphone friendly area you would be told to get the iphone 4 or the 4s because they dont even know what a non apple product is.
eraldo said:
Heh you know if you asked this in the iphone section or a more iphone friendly area you would be told to get the iphone 4 or the 4s because they dont even know what a non apple product is.
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Yes, your are most probably right and that is why we should try to do better here - especially since many people around here will know the look and feel of the iPhone 4 too...
And as I wrote I personally like the UI concept of android more and he should try both before making that decision.
Speedwise the Optimus 2x should be a little faster – but not that much since I must admit the software of the iPhone is usually over all a little bit better optimized.
But IMHO the biggest con against any iPhone and also to the most recent Google phone is the lack of an SD-card slot – this is/would be a absolute no go for me…
if IP4 would had 4" screen i wouldnt even thinking.
Thanks everyone for the feedback, I think I might give it a chance, though i will have to order it from Amazon UK as there are no phone stores around my town that stock O2x's.
I also didn't post on an apple section as I know what the replys would be to buy the iPhone as 50%-70% of apple owners only buy apple products as they Have the fruit logo and defend it.
Just another thing to touch on, if I did get the O2x i wouldn't root it for approx. 6-8months in-case an issue would occur and therefore i would be able to use warranty. What is the Stock rom like? And is it Usable?
Rooting:
I would assume rooting is a bit like jail-breaking, just run a program and its done?
and flashing roms, you just put them on an SD card and flash using clockworkrecovery?
Thanks again
i will say buying an iPhone4 is just an action of ifanboy
Rooting is not difficult, just as easy as jailbreaking the iOS devices. I sold my iPod touch 4th gen a few months ago and I know the differences between these products.
First of all, I want to remark that the optimus 2x still has a lot of issues. Random reboots, sleep of deaths, charging BSODs, memory leaking. These are very common issues which I experienced myself. Especially if you use the stock LG rom, make sure you remember this.
Most probably you won't void your warranty if you flash custom roms because you will be able to flash back to stock LG rom with kdz/smartflash methods.
If you are looking for a stable phone I honestly would not recommend the O2X at this moment. It is a nice phone with current CM7-kangs or modded kernel/modded stock rom, but the LG roms are real crap imo and you may still have problems even with xda roms.
Samsung for example has much better stock roms. You might look for the Galaxy R for example which looks great to me.
Nevertheless the o2x is really cheap for a dualcore phone with decent IPS screen. Real bang for the bucks. It's so much faster than my previous iPod Touch 4th gen. (Same processor as iPhone 4)
If you have no problems with claiming warranty if you have issues amd if you dont care to flash custom roms, the o2x could be a good choice.
(Sorry for language mistakes, my native language is Dutch)
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[Q] Opinions on Upgrading

Im going to be upgrading shortly, and NO Im not giving up my Hero. Ive noticed alot of us are going to the Evo3D, I was concidering doing the same or possibly the Evo 4g supersonic. What are your opinions and why ??? Just out of curiousity. Thanks in advance
Got my wife a 3vo for Xmas...the 3d feature is kind of gimmicky IMO.
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Have you seen the epic 4g touch? I was dead set on getting another HTC untill i saw it in person. I made the sales rep take back the evo 3d he had just brought out for me. Stalk the forums to the phones your considering, sometimes the community is enought to turn you away.
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The specs on the 3D are amazing. I do not regret it at all
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
I've been patiently waiting the arrival of the Galaxy Nexus... but my patience is wearing thin. My Hero is on its last leg, and quite frankly it is just too slow for my liking anymore. So Im really debating on whether to hold out for the GN or just getting the Epic 4g touch.
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KelevrA_8 said:
I've been patiently waiting the arrival of the Galaxy Nexus... but my patience is wearing thin. My Hero is on its last leg, and quite frankly it is just too slow for my liking anymore. So Im really debating on whether to hold out for the GN or just getting the Epic 4g touch.
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I'm in the same boat. Almost 3 years with my hero and I do love it, but I'm due for an upgrade and I'm not sure I can wait for the GN or GSIII. I might have to take the plunge soon. Epic 4g touch or Evo3D....something, but until then I'm flashing roms like there's no tomorrow
dastin1015 said:
The specs on the 3D are amazing. I do not regret it at all
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
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Thanks to all for the insigjts, Daatin, have you expierienced any programing gliches (ranbom reboots, freezes ) as ive rread in some of the Sprint reviews. Anb in response to the epic 4g, yes it is a pretty badass device man. Definately on the list of upgrade cantidates. Is rooting the epic fairly basic, just wondering. Lol suppose i could use the search window, :-b One other thing i was curious about, I read the specs on the 3d and the supersonic and other than price didnt really see a difference, is there really a difference ???
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drlzanej said:
Thanks to all for the insigjts, Daatin, have you expierienced any programing gliches (ranbom reboots, freezes ) as ive rread in some of the Sprint reviews. Anb in response to the epic 4g, yes it is a pretty badass device man. Definately on the list of upgrade cantidates. Is rooting the epic fairly basic, just wondering. Lol suppose i could use the search window, :-b
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I haven't had any problems at all. All freezes were of my causing. Same goes with reboots.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
Lol,you responded before i could edit my ladt post. Anyways, whats the difference between the 3d and the supersonic other than $$$
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Better screen,ram, and processor.
#Root-Hack\Mod*Always_
""Shooter on Deck""
laie1472 said:
Better screen,ram, and processor.
#Root-Hack\Mod*Always_
""Shooter on Deck""
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thanks laie for your response, gave up all my thank you's today so i needed to write it out lol. anyhow in your opinion does that actually mean its a beter device or one of those "more bells and whistles more problems" devices. and yes sir your opinion does matter. Thanks man
Dive bombing in for a MUMP!! although this thread didn't need it
I have an upgrade available the 31st and I was hoping the galaxy nexus would be out by then but possibly not.. my sister got the Nexus S and the only problem I've seen with it is after a year or so of having it the battery life has probably cut in half if not more. My mom got the epic 4g touch and I didn't really like it. But no problems really that ive noticed. But I never got to mess around with rooting it/the programming side of it. I'm honestly thinking of going to iPhone because its not as fragmented as android. With android there's so many different phones, OS's, roms, etc. Then again that's what I love about it.. gaaaah the choices!! Either way good luck with whatever you choose
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I feel your guys' pain about the lack of options for HTC phones on Sprint. I ended up getting a HTC Amaze which is what the next EVO phone should have been but it never made it to Sprint. I was not impressed by gimmicky EVO 3D. The HTC Rezound is similar to the Amaze but again it's on Verizon.
Still kicking around the idea....I do like the 3vo, but the 3D is just too gimmicky for me...I think the Photon is out even though motorola is always a solid phone.
I would go for the Evo Design, but the processor lacks a dual core .....I really think I am leaning towards the SGSII...despite what people say about the plasticy feel, it is slim, it is light, the screen is huge and colorful--(and the blacks are black, not washed out), and from what I have seen for comparisons even though it has the "same" speed processor as the 3vo, it is just a touch faster. The price is just double what the others are....GRRR.
Now I have to pound it into my wifes head, because I think shes gonna get me a phone for my Bday....
I can overclock mine at 1.5ghz and it's just as fast if not faster than stock SGS2... just my 2 cents.
MattCrystal said:
I can overclock mine at 1.5ghz and it's just as fast if not faster than stock SGS2... just my 2 cents.
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And we genuinely appreciate your pennies.
BUT, if the SGS2 is OC'd and it is faster to begin with, imagine what it can do at 1.5ghz... I think the only thing I am not really diggin about the SGS2 is resolution..even though it is crisp and clear, the icons are bigger...
Who knows we will see what happens hell they might be sold out when it is time...I heard they are doing phones for new lines for a penny right now....makes me wanna walk away from them just to come back and get a discount....lol
That's when the shooter has another plus. It's resolution is higher which is why the icons are smaller but it also means better picture quality obviously with any higher resolution. I watch Top Gear on the netflix app and its perfect. Any game I've played works perfect and looks great due to the resolution.
On the processing front, honestly there's no need to even OC unless you want to just show off. but none of us end users need that much power to run what apps we like. Id be more inclined to want a higher processor if you could build from source on it. But most of us want better battery life. Which in turn you have to sacrifice some performance.
I love the SGS2. However they I believe still nerd to use odin to flash stuff. Odins been known to brick quite a few devices if not done properly. This weighed in my decision also along with I'm familiar with HTC. From a developing standpoint I was drawn because I know it already.
The 3D may be gimmicky... But it sure is fun Im excited to take more pictures now because of it. I can't wait for summer and snap shots of parades and ball games etc... Sure the SGS2 has an 8mp compared to the shooters 2 - 5mp which our Heros have a 5mp camera, but because of the resolution they turn out great. Won't be able to take advantage of that 8mp camera unless you remove the pictures and view them properly on a computer...
Now with all that being said I still want to buy an SGS2 outright because I just do. I mean its a great phone. But all that I mentioned pushed me towards the shooter for an everyday developing phone which is what the Hero was for me.
That's my .25 cents this time
I hope this helped boggle your mind a little more. Not saying you have to lean towards anything. It's your choice and all the phones out there are great. It's a matter of preference. Just stay away from the I-crap. I give Apple one little credit for implementing Unix in a way to a phone platform. But that's all ill give them.
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Will never buy an apple-- just picked up a new SGS2 for $0.01 on Amazon though....
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Go with what your budget can handle. Now that there is a possible fix for the 1. 5 hboot for the 3D, I'm encouraging my family to move towards it. Plus that phone has massive potential.

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