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Goodbye NOOK community.

Unfortunately i have had to exchange my nook two times. I thought the third one would work. But today I returned it and the accessories. Are there any other tablets one would reccomend sans Galaxy Tab. I realize most (if not all) of you don't give a **** about this post. But I just want to see peoples input. I may buy an NC again in the future once a new hardware revision comes out. Goodbye again.
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I surely would waste my money on a galaxy tablet I had 1 and its etremely crappy waste of money no matter how you flash it or what you do to it doesn't matter it still junk.
Laggy browser multi touch slow tiling in the browser Go to sleep while watching youtube videos on and on
Definitely not worth 600 dollars
I would buy a viewsonic g tablets and root the hell out of it before I would buy another galaxy

Third one is working for me. Too bad you didn't have any luck.
Have you looked at the Velocity Micro Cruz Tablets? Same price, but don't know any details about the hardware.
Good luck,
kev

jackjumper85 said:
Unfortunately i have had to exchange my nook two times. I thought the third one would work. But today I returned it and the accessories. Are there any other tablets one would reccomend sans Galaxy Tab. I realize most (if not all) of you don't give a **** about this post. But I just want to see peoples input. I may buy an NC again in the future once a new hardware revision comes out. Goodbye again.
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What was the problem with each tablet, individually?

I too haven't had any luck. My first Nookcolor wouldn't turn on or reset after I plugged it in to charge. The second one would randomly reboot, reload or freeze. B&N are sending me a third one. My cousin bought her nookcolor on release date and she has never had to reset or soft reset hers.

3g...no thanks

Viewsonic g tablet if you are into custom Roms. Crappy out of the box.
Archos 70 or 101. Tempted to sell my NC for the 101.
Sent from Nook Color.

khaytsus said:
What was the problem with each tablet, individually?
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First one - usb port was jacked up (like smashed)
Second one - Volume buttons broken
Third one - Defective digitizer
Sent from my rooted HTC EVO 4G.

Were you having the digitizer problems while plugged into the charger? This seems to be a common issue that is actually caused by the charger itself. I know you already returned your third Nook but maybe someone else will see this if they're having a similar problem. I have this same issue with my Nook and will be calling customer service to get a replacement shipped out. In the meantime i haven't had the need to use my device while it's charging due to the long battery life.
For those considering changing to a gtablet or archos i can only say that i owned an archos 101 and returned it due to its horrible screen and build quality. I have also used a gtablet and it was quite heavy and also had a very poor screen. However, there's no denying that it has pretty powerful hardware and performs well when you ditch the stock software for a custom rom.
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My third Nook is on it's way... First two had cracked screen! :|

leeh41 said:
Viewsonic g tablet if you are into custom Roms. Crappy out of the box.
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I've heard good things about this one too. If I had to buy one right now, this would probably be it. Otherwise, I'd wait for the NotionInk Adam.

leeh41 said:
Viewsonic g tablet if you are into custom Roms. Crappy out of the box.
Archos 70 or 101. Tempted to sell my NC for the 101.
Sent from Nook Color.
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Hmm (quick look at Viewsonic web page and Amazon) ... twice the price for 7 or 10 inch, slower and way less onboard memory, what's not to love? Web cam, BT and Froyo are there also there, OK some things.
Homer

ianandamy said:
I surely would waste my money on a galaxy tablet I had 1 and its etremely crappy waste of money no matter how you flash it or what you do to it doesn't matter it still junk.
Laggy browser multi touch slow tiling in the browser Go to sleep while watching youtube videos on and on
Definitely not worth 600 dollars
I would buy a viewsonic g tablets and root the hell out of it before I would buy another galaxy
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I hear ya, surprised the fanbois insecure in their purchase haven't popped up yet to cry foul though.
Anyways, I'd wait. CES is coming and supposedly alot of new tablets will be demoed with actual release dates not too far out... i.e. I'm not even going to recommend a rooted/custom fw'ed gTab. (It is fast(browses almost as well as my MSI GT725 P8600 2.4GHz/ATI 4850 mobility), but you never know something with a better stock fw might be on the way...)
I'm kind of in the OP's position, as my first NC came OOB w/a borked USB port and I had a b!tch of a time getting them to exchange it. No wonder that B&N are in trouble with that kind of QA & CS... Exchange unit is doing OK now, so I plan to keep it unless something happens to this one before 14d are up, in which case I'm going to have to think hard about another exchange or just flat out return. Their crap CS is making me lean to return as it was the very worst CS experience that I've ever had in my life.
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Do NOT buy the Cruz Craplet. It uses a non-standard MIPS CPU in the SoC unlike every single other recent device that uses ARM based SoCs. Also their reader is just an overpriced white Pandigital Novel. The fws are nearly directly exchangeable.
Archos: beware of 256MB of RAM in those, and their current froyo build underclocks their CPU to 800MHz plus they tooketh away features that were in their 2.1 build... (mainly some codecs that they want you to buy now, or so I gather). The RAM is a limiting factor in app usage and potential further OS upgrades, so I'd look for devices with a minimum of 512MB of RAM onboard. (I'd also REALLY like to see easily user replaceable batteries.... but...)
Notion Ink: I'd wait and see on those guys. More like until they release their next tablet(see if they survive) and see if they fix their crappy warranty & shipping & return policies and/or get into B&M so that you can see/try BEFORE you buy...
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I went from an Archos 101 to a NC and I definitely second the comment about the ram. 256MB just isn't enough for me - lockups and freezes are common when you do anything interesting with it. My dad ended up the Archos for Christmas for checking sports scores and emails and stuff and he loves it so far.
The latest Archos gen8 firmware allows you to bump the speed back up to 1GHz, so that's not an issue. The A101's screen (TN versus IPS) and touch sensor (tested via fruit ninja) are crap next to the NC's. As far as video playback goes, the A101 runs rings around the poor NC. Everything just played. Lack of bluetooth sucks on the NC, but hopefully "they" will fix that for us soon.
My NC has a single dead pixel smack in the middle of the screen, but it's definitely not worth the hassle of a return.
EDIT: I forgot about the terrible wireless on the A101. As of 2.0.71 firmware WPA2 AES finally works, but it's not as stable as wireless on the NC. On the other hand, the A101 neatly beats the NC on battery life.

bugeyed1 said:
Third one is working for me. Too bad you didn't have any luck.
Have you looked at the Velocity Micro Cruz Tablets? Same price, but don't know any details about the hardware.
Good luck,
kev
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Was contemplating getting a cruz tab but from what I read, it has slow mips processor which stops market access. The reviews also said it had build issues. I'm happy with my galaxy tab and my wife is happy with her nc, she still won't let me root her nc lol
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i agree wait until CES is done. Lots of Android tabs coming out. It's unfortunate at the problems some are having. I have 2 NC's and no problems. For the money, the NC is hard to beat. I would not get the Galaxy tab as it is overpriced IMHO.

Been followign the CES and pre-CES launch announcements, and I would say hang on til june and get one of the Asus Tablets. They will retail between $399-$499 depending on model (the 7", which includes a capacitve stylus and ap suite to take advantage of it, and the 10" slider models are $499, the 10" tablet that has an optional keyboard dock is $399). The LG tablet is another that is on the horizon that looks very promising.
In fact, CES now has me second guessing whether or not I will get a NC.

leeh41 said:
Viewsonic g tablet if you are into custom Roms. .
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I had one....terrible screen....I returned it. Loving my nook

fwdixon said:
. They will retail between $399-$499 depending on model (the 7", which includes a capacitve stylus and ap suite to take advantage of it, and the 10" slider models are $499, the 10" tablet that has an optional keyboard dock is $399). The LG tablet is another that is on the horizon that looks very promising.
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That's $150 - $250 more than the NC for an Android tablet.
That and I would never spend that kind of cash on a tablet with a mobile OS. Say what you want, but Android, iOS, WM7 are all still just phone/hand held operating systems.

For the record: first unit had a borked USB port, and the second has 2 defective pixels plus a backlight display defect near the top. No worries! I'm taking the second back to BestBuy and picking up a third on Sunday! I'll keep doing it 'til it's perfect. For $250 it's all that.
Sorry to hear that B&N customer service sucks. Anyway, Walmart is carrying them too now so options are good.
-Matt

Nookcolor thoughts after CES

Now with CES behind us but with thoughts of all those new tablets still fresh in our heads, anyone still think a rooted Nookcolor will be able to hold it's own against the tide that's coming.
Anyone with a rooted Nookcolor-will you still buy a tablet this year and if so which one, or will the Nookcolor still do.
I think the price point of the Nookcolor is it's greatest strength now.

I agree for $250, the NC can't be beat. Honeycomb on NC
I do plan on getting a new tab, maybe one of 10.1" running Honeycomb but don't know which one yet.

My opinion is...
The Nook is a book reading device first. Its a make shift tablet second.
It is not really fair to compare it to tablets that are designed to be tablets.
With that said, the newest thing is always around the corner. What is NOT around the corner is the hundreds more dollars for me to spend that these new devices cost as compared to the Nook.
Once the Nook gets a stable and functional Froyo, it will put it a very good advantage for at least the next year with app support.
It will take some time for Tegra2 to build up steam and drop in price. Meanwhile you have all of these older devices/tablets/cellphones still running older systems.
Just because 3.0 is coming up does not mean that all support will stop for the older devices. Developers would be foolish to stop supporting the older builds.
So, the answer for me is YES, the Nook is a great buy at this moment in time.

I have to agree with the price point being the NC's largest draw and strength. For $250 you can't get a better piece of hardware. Once we can get honeycomb (and by we I mean you people smarter than myself) on the NC we'll be flying high.

From what I have read, which may be BS, honeycomb will require dual processors to function properly, so I doubt nook color can handle it.
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There's always something "better" available "real soon now". I'd have to check, but none of the CES announcements included either a price for the device or a release date. Heck, the Adam took almost a year from CES to release, and even then it had a very limited release and still hasn't shipped. But you can go over to B&N and pick up a NC right now.

There is no minimum processor requirement for Honeycomb.
http://twitter.com/#!/morrildl/status/22845294886518785

Oh, and if you don't know who Dan Morrill is...
http://www.google.com/profiles/morrildl

I just picked up a Nook Color for $180 from CL...but even at full price I didn't see anything that blew me away from CES. Sure the newer tablets will have better CPUs etc. but I doubt they will have the Screen quality of the NC at this price-point. For me what sold me on the NC is the ability to Root it, make it a very functional tablet (even if so claim its a book reader first, I think it makes an amazing tablet). I am one of the few that do not need a webcam etc. And let's not forget the amazing Screen quality!

CES Shows some really awesome looking devices but the market at the moment is pricing everything retardedly high. For the moment the $250 NC is the best bang for the buck for a simple Tablet. And I do fully expect to see a Honeycomb port in due time.
Untill the market gets saturated with actually good devices around the $300 price point and not the $499 point, (Especially the 3G only devices?! Not everyone wants or needs 3G!).

From my viewpoint:
The OS is sometimes the most expensive part of buying a PC/tablet. I would expect with the fact that Android is open, costs for these devices would be driven down significantly. However, the new crop of Android tablets are up there with Win OS tablets (almost), yet don't have a full featured OS.
I agree with spikey911 that this is an ereader first, Android tablet second. To me, having it run android apps is a benefit, not the primary reason I got it.
I would love a dual core or a Tegra 2 tablet. Would I pay more than $300 for one? Absolutely not. By the time that comes down in price, the next crop of the "greatest" comes out.
The only way I would upgrade to different tablet is if/when the Lenovo LePad/U1 comes down in price. Then I could chuck the NC and my Core 2 duo netbook.

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From my viewpoint:
The OS is sometimes the most expensive part of buying a PC/tablet.
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That's the same thing i thought, but then how to you explain the galaxy tab? 600 bucks for what? Where they price gouging? I picked the nook color because the ability to root and the build quality was outstanding. Closest to that of the iPad. With the new crop of devices coming they are not bringing anything new, dual core yay but other than that what else. For those with nooks is 4-500 dollars worth a larger screen? What can you do on those that you cant do on the nook color? Also nook is still on 2.1 so with froyo there should be a slight speed increase.
Dont think anything from CES was mind blowing and would make me considering giving up my nook.

Outside of Android, Gigabyte just announced a reasonably nice Win7 Tablet with a N550 (duel core) and even a 320G HD supposidly aimed at the sub $300 market. If so with a reasonable capacitive screen it would be one of the first reasonable Win7 Tablets. For a device that has netbook specs it may be the first to finally get it that they need to be priced reasonable for the reasonable specs. Touchscreen replacement for a keyboard should not cost $200 more.

I'm still waiting patiently for the NC with 2G/3G... Anyone know when it will be out?

myv6mustang said:
That's the same thing i thought, but then how to you explain the galaxy tab? 600 bucks for what? Where they price gouging?
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I think that we are seeing the NC at razor thin markup (almost cost) due to the "razor/razor blades" marketing model that ebooks use. B&N expect to make all their money on book sales, not the hardware. Until we have a Tegra2 KindleIV to compare to, I doubt we'll know for sure

I'm not looking for my Nook to replace my laptop. The thing that got me is the performance/price and the big thing: not having a data plan. I don't understand who has the money to buy a $500 device and then pay $25-50/month for 24 months. I can buy a really nice laptop for $1100-1700.
Homer

For me the NC is a tablet first & an ereader second! At least that's the way I use it. IMO it has enough going on hardware wise that the only time that it is an ereader first, is that period of time between opening the box & rooting it! Just because it doesn't have a few hard keys, camera or GPS & USB host doesn't mean it is not a viable tablet. Actually, a rooted NC has more tablet functions than it does ereader functions. I am very happy with the NC without these features, as that kept the price where I could afford it. With it competing in the ereader market, B&N had to price it accordingly. If it had been competing as a tablet, it could have demanded a much higher price. I was not looking for a laptop replacement, just a more portable connected device that doesn't require a data contract.
Cheers,
kev

Best tablet for under $300. Once Froyo is successfully ported and BT able kernel it will be even better. There is no way you will find another 7" tablet with capacitance screen, 1024x600 res, 512MB RAM, 8GB Internal Storage for anywhere near this price. B&N is selling them at a low price to get people to buy their ebooks.
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911jason said:
There is no minimum processor requirement for Honeycomb.
http://twitter.com/#!/morrildl/status/22845294886518785
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Glad it was BS.
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duloz said:
Glad it was BS.
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I am not convinced that not having some pretty strong minimum hardware specs is a good thing. Microsoft was pretty smart by setting the bar high on their Win Phone 7 units. I think the Android community would benefit from having some specs that ensure that a tablet or phone will perform fast and smooth. You know that Apple will increase their specs for the next iPad and it will suck if honeycomb runs poorly on previous gen tablets.

Question about Nook vs Galaxy Tab

Alright so here's the deal....
I've had this Nook Color for a long time but i l've realized it's become more of a toy to tinker with instead of a tablet. I was constantly working on it instead of using it as a tablet. So i gave up and posted it on Ebay and was going to sell it but now i've installed the latest phiremod and... i feel like my nook is finally there. Video is actually worth a damn and it's all smooth. What would you guys do? How does the tab compare now? Still a little smoother but not much or.... all opinions welcome. Sorry for punctuation, typing on nook color.
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I think you should keep it. I used it just to experiment when I was runing froyo but now I 'm using the latest CM7 (rc4) and I 'm now really using it as a tablet [browsing,reading,some games and the occasional navigation]. It's the perfect tablet for the money I paid.

The cpu speed is equal or better if you use the overclock kernel, the graphics are equal now, the operating system is better cuz it can run gingerbread where the galaxy is just froyo. All in all for 250 bucks youre way way better off with the nook.. and its getting better everyday with the cm7 nightlies.
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get a asus eee pad transformer. better specs and cheaper price. already have a nook but might get one.

luciferii said:
... the graphics are equal now ...
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Hi,
no, they aren't. The galaxy has a newer, more advanced graphic chipset. It's been reported to play almost any video you throw at it, while the nook has significant limitations.
Regs,
Maciej

jrob9583 said:
alright so heres the deal....
ive had this nook color for a long time but i lve realized it had become more of a toy to tinker with instead of a tablet. I was constantly working on it instead of using it aa a tablet. so i gave up and posted it on ebay and was going to sell it but now ive installed the latest phiremod and... i feel like my nook is finalky there. video is worth a damn and its all smooth. what would you guys do? how does the tab compare now? still a little smoother but not much or.... all opinions welcome. sorry for punctuatiin typing on nook color.
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I say keep it. When CM7 goes final with the Tablet Tweaks and Phiredrop mods it, it's going to be epic. That dude really knows how to put a user interface together.
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The cpu speed is equal or better if you use the overclock kernel, the graphics are equal now, the operating system is better cuz it can run gingerbread where the galaxy is just froyo. All in all for 250 bucks youre way way better off with the nook.. and its getting better everyday with the cm7 nightlies.
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I think the Galaxy can do 720p videos (no need to reencode, can stream from your main system or whatever.)
I also think the bluetooth has a longer range, and it has cameras? It's good stuff, but it's also more expensive.
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get a asus eee pad transformer. better specs and cheaper price. already have a nook but might get one.
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Which one? The one I see is like $1100?
If you have $1100 to spend, that certainly isn't a bad way to spend it if you want the rugged reliability of the SSD storage.
I also like the $1100 IBM/Lenova Thinkpad convertable. It has better stats and bigger storage, but it uses a normal type of harddrive.

chisleu said:
Which one? The one I see is like $1100?
If you have $1100 to spend, that certainly isn't a bad way to spend it if you want the rugged reliability of the SSD storage.
I also like the $1100 IBM/Lenova Thinkpad convertable. It has better stats and bigger storage, but it uses a normal type of harddrive.
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He is talking about this. http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/25/asus-...fers-honeycomb-and-a-convertible-form-factor/
Showing up online for $400 for 16GB and $500 for 32GB.

We all have different requirements but to me the only real competition to a rooted Nook Color right now is the Galaxy Tab. Anything bigger than 8" is in laptop/netbook size territory, which just is not as portable.
And the price of a Galaxy Tab is now in NC territory although you have monthly contract charges for 2 years...
The extra cost involved with the contract, or buying one outright, will keep me happily using an NC. When a 7" tablet with significantly better specs and quality becomes available in the same price range- >$250 then I may consider it.
Right now there is nothing.
But if the size doesn't bother you- well, I have no input really because I haven't seen ANY 10" tablet I would buy.

Thanks for all the replies so far guys. Also sorry for the quality of that post last night. I was using NC and was too tired to really want to fix it. Anyways...
I agree that 7" is just the right size. The IPad is great and all but it's so bulky. That's why it's between this and the Galaxy Tab. I'm still not sure. I really do like this a lot and it's actually usable since installing RC4 version of Phiremod. Just want something where everything is smooth and works perfectly. Before, the argument couldn't be made that the nook color was all that smooth but it's worlds better now. Thanks for all your input guys.

Ok, here is my next question then, since we agree on the 7" size:
What os are you using?
Stock rooted?
Froyo?
Honeycomb?
CyanogenMod7?
I have gone through all of the above to one degree or another, HC for the shortest time due to the issues since source is not out.
Once CM7 was available I have not even read a thread about another.
It may still be in the nightly/RC stage, but CM7 is extremely good as it is and is in very active development to complete making things perfect.
One of the issues we all have with the NC- lack of hard buttons- even has a project at the "feature freeze" point of bug fixes before release- Tablet Tweaks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002000
Do us both a favor and at least try it before you spend money.
You may decide that you don't need to.
(Note: if you are already running CM7 then ignore my post. )

Having seen what even a stock rooted Android 2.1 Nook Color can do, I wouldn't spend money on another 7" tablet. I might buy a 10" Honeycomb tablet like the XOOM if the prices come down for use at home where the extra screen real-estate outweighs the decreased portability. But the Nook Color would still be the device I take with me when I'm leaving home.

Nburnes said:
He is talking about this. http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/25/asus-...fers-honeycomb-and-a-convertible-form-factor/
Showing up online for $400 for 16GB and $500 for 32GB.
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How is double the cost a cheaper price?

RoboRay said:
How is double the cost a cheaper price?
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It's not double, its $150 more. Comparing it to the 32GB model isn't fair.
You gain a bigger screen (debatable if it's worth it- but for me- typing a little on a 7" screen would be an awkward size, 10" makes it better). And much more power... And bluetooth and all that jazz. With the ability to run 3.0 natively.
Worth $150, up to you.
Take the $300 GTablet. No IPS screen. Is $100 for an IPS screen running 3.0 worth $100? I think so.
Is it worth $150 more than the NC? That's more debatable I think, because you already have a IPS screen. The only thing lacking is 3.0 and the power.
Now....... If the keyboard is included in that $400 price: hands-down, $150 for a tablet you can attach a keyboard to is a freaking no-brainer... The Eee Pad Transformer kills the NC.
But if the keyboard is optional, it's up for debate.
Anytime I've seen the Eee Pad Transformer listed accidentally, it always seems to have the keyboard included. But other times, it seems like it might be an optional thing you buy extra. Weather or not the keyboard is part of that $400 is a huge thing, in my opinion.
If it is, not only does it murder the competition in the tablet market, it'll also murder the competition in the netbook market.
I'm waiting for release (rumored to be April 9) and pricing, and to see if the keyboard is included or not. That Eee Pad Transformer could viably be, a laptop replacement. 16 hours of battery life is awesome. The ability to also use it as a tablet is a huge plus as well.
The ONLY thing- I would want it to be able to do: is boot Windows (so I can use full Office and Windows programs). If I could make it do that: this is an awesome device. Why?
1) Light, long lasting netbook with some power
2) Full Windows apps (stream to 360, etc)
3) Tablet PC for light browsing or on the move
One device to rule them all, one device to bind them......

Pfft
I want a Nook Color with a 1.5 GHz dual-core Snapdragon (Adreno 220 GPU).
Downright amazing performance; better even than the Tegra 2:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/2

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Pfft
I want a Nook Color with a 1.5 GHz dual-core Snapdragon (Adreno 220 GPU).
Downright amazing performance; better even than the Tegra 2:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/2
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Of course but the problem is... The NC doesn't have that hardware configuration, lol.
I'm guessing, since it just released 4.5 months ago, we won't see a NC until this fall again. I love the fact B&N isn't trying to crush the open source community on it so I've got hope the next one will be the same way. They need to keep the cost cheap- I think they realize (especially with the upcoming update) they've nailed the cost/feature ratio. Hopefully they don't think, "It's a tablet now, let's charge more" on the NC2.

I'll say keep it and buy better tablet down the road.
I'm really interested in the Asus Transformer ($400 for 16GB) but I'll keep my Nook Color.

If you guys want to keep the 7" factor, but gain powerful hardware, wait for this to release stateside.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/04/acers-7-inch-iconia-tab-a100-priced-at-300-in-uk-launching-ap/

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If you guys want to keep the 7" factor, but gain powerful hardware, wait for this to release stateside.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/04/acers-7-inch-iconia-tab-a100-priced-at-300-in-uk-launching-ap/
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But for the same price (actually cheaper)... the Asus 10" gives you IPS, twice the RAM, twice the space...
While if you want 7" this will be the best viable option, could you deal with 3" bigger for better hardware, is the question.

Nburnes said:
If you guys want to keep the 7" factor, but gain powerful hardware, wait for this to release stateside.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/04/acers-7-inch-iconia-tab-a100-priced-at-300-in-uk-launching-ap/
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$483?? When the iPad is $500 (or $300 if you can still find a clearance on the first version)? What kind of deal is that?
Apparently there are no plans for anything to be in the Nook Color's league when it comes to the quality / price / performance metrics. Still waiting...

TexUs said:
It's not double, its $150 more.
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Ok, then how is $150 more a cheaper price?

First genuine Nook Color competitor

Would you look at that... somebody actually gets the appeal of the nook
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/01/lenovo-announces-ideapad-a1-the-199-android-tablet-we-go-hand/
7" 1024x600 screen, $200. Dont see anything on the other specs, but unlike most competitors the screen is there.

Jotokun said:
Would you look at that... somebody actually gets the appeal of the nook
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/01/lenovo-announces-ideapad-a1-the-199-android-tablet-we-go-hand/
7" 1024x600 screen, $200. Dont see anything on the other specs, but unlike most competitors the screen is there.
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I saw this earlier too.... sounds *real* familiar overall. It's even running Gingerbread, a la CM7, etc. It will be interesting to see how it does, but it comes off sort of like a slightly tweaked, slightly more mainstream CM7 NC. It's kind of a credit to the NC that this thing is coming out a year+ later for a similar price point and doesn't really blow it away, as far as I can tell.

The story also doesn't talk about the display quality. If it is on par with the NC, then maybe...
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PC World is listing the processor as a single core 1Ghz Cortex A8 and 2GB internal memory. Only info so far on the screen is that it's Capacitive touch with a 1024x600 resolution. Still no info on any kind of hardware acceleration which can make or break it as a media player.
Edit: They do mention a GPS receiver, which is rather interesting.

Looks pretty sweet! $200 is definitely the right price point.
Has advantages over the NC - camera, GPS
You can buy a refurb NC for $170 these days though.
Also article says the 8GB model will not be for sale in the USA. 16GB model will at $249.

Unless the screen and battery are total lemons, I would say the 16GB model blows the NC out of the water going head-to-head at $250 retail. Of course, it would be a little ridiculous to buy a NC at full retail right now, this late in the production cycle and with full-warranty refurbs fast approaching the $150 mark.
The recent Vizio tablet is also a decent contender in the NC's retail range and nearly the same form factor.

I'm digging that widget in the middle of the screen. Anyone know what it is?

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I'm digging that widget in the middle of the screen. Anyone know what it is?
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I would guess it's a proprietary UI element, but it may just be a pre-loaded market widget.

Taosaur said:
Unless the screen and battery are total lemons, I would say the 16GB model blows the NC out of the water going head-to-head at $250 retail.
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Um, well, except for the fact that probably 95% of the people who buy a NC buy it because it's an eReader with apps.

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Um, well, except for the fact that probably 95% of the people who buy a NC buy it because it's an eReader with apps.
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Which has little bearing on the question of whether said "eReader with apps" is comparable in value to an almost identical device with several advantages, nor on the question of whether a year-old and decreasingly unique piece of electronics is still worth the initial retail price.
Or are you simply arguing that B&N can continue selling NCs for $250 on the basis of consumer ignorance?

Hmm... if i ever upgrade I might hold out for Sammy's 7.7" super amoled with GPS and 0.7 pound weight and 10 hour batt life. But only at $250!

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Which has little bearing on the question of whether said "eReader with apps" is comparable in value to an almost identical device with several advantages, nor on the question of whether a year-old and decreasingly unique piece of electronics is still worth the initial retail price.
Or are you simply arguing that B&N can continue selling NCs for $250 on the basis of consumer ignorance?
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I'm obviously saying that the vast majority of people who want an eReader aren't getting a tablet, and vise versa.

The price point to beat will be the one that Amazon sets with its new tablet. If a decent tablet from a known company is available below that price point, that can use the kindle app and nook app, then consumers will catch on. The real issue however is that Lenovo has no stake in an app store or media store, so they can't afford to lose money on hardware, while Amazon and B&N can.

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That's the Lenovo Launcher, a custom widget that comes on all their tablets.

colorado_al said:
The price point to beat will be the one that Amazon sets with its new tablet. If a decent tablet from a known company is available below that price point, that can use the kindle app and nook app, then consumers will catch on. The real issue however is that Lenovo has no stake in an app store or media store, so they can't afford to lose money on hardware, while Amazon and B&N can.
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Supposedly Amazon's tablet will be a $250 7" 6GB tablet with wifi, negotiating 3g/4g. There's some rumor that 3g access will be "free" (along with 1 year Amazon Prime free membership) but... man that's a lot of bandwidth to be giving away free for a tablet.
No camera, and also apparently no HC --- "a system prior to 2.2".
Personally I'm not really all that jazzed, kind of disappointed at the mediocre (so far) specs.
The articles should be filtering in for this about now.

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Supposedly Amazon's tablet will be a $250 7" 6GB tablet with wifi, negotiating 3g/4g. There's some rumor that 3g access will be "free" (along with 1 year Amazon Prime free membership) but... man that's a lot of bandwidth to be giving away free for a tablet.
No camera, and also apparently no HC --- "a system prior to 2.2".
Personally I'm not really all that jazzed, kind of disappointed at the mediocre (so far) specs.
The articles should be filtering in for this about now.
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I read that this morning too. I'm sure they will sell a lot due to brand recognition, but it sounds like they're late to the party with that one. The NC is essentially the same, but has been out for a year. And it sounds like they are readying a new one.
Too bad. I was hoping for better hardware at a subsidized price. The Lenovo looks much better than the Amazon Tab.

Don't know how credible it is, but this was posted over on mobileread:
Dulin's Books said:
The AmTab will have a AFFS lcd panels provided by Hydis which is a subsidiary of PrimeView/Eink Holdings http://www.hydis.com/eng/04_rnd/rnd_03.asp
AFFS or Advanced Fringe Field Switching Displasy are a Hydis patented tech which produces bright displays with very good color and 180 degree viewing angles with lower power usage then similar size IPS displays
http://www.hydis.com/eng/04_rnd/rnd_03.asp
http://www.hydis.com/eng/04_rnd/rnd_02.asp
http://www.boehydis.de/techno/techno.html?reload_coolmenus
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So, it sounds like at least a minor screen improvement over the NC, but maybe this also explains the rumors of B&N acquiring "e-paper backing" from eInk for the next-gen NC.

Wow free 3g!
Ill buy this or the amazon tab if theres a 250gb HD like the Archos tabs. I need that space to replace my ipod classic sometime...

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Ill buy this or the amazon tab if theres a 250gb HD like the Archos tabs. I need that space to replace my ipod classic sometime...
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I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a 250GB tablet from any of the top tier manufacturers. The 8/16/32GB flash memory model seems to be pretty much standardized now. Some of the lower-end, fringe companies like Archos might come out with hard-drive based tablets, but the big guys won't.
Amazon certainly won't, because they want you to use their cloud services to store your MP3s, and putting a huge storage capacity in their tablet would be counterproductive for that goal.

The best we can expect in terms of storage is 64GB SDXC support and/or multiple SD slots. The Lenovo actually has one micro and one standard SDHC slots, creating the potential for 16/32GB internal + 32GB uSD + 32GB SD = up to 96GB storage for a total of around $400 (less if you have the cards on hand), which is pretty massive by tablet standards.
As has been said, though, tablets and the mobile OSes they run are better optimized for cloud computing than managing substantial quantities of files locally.
ETA: honestly, if this thing materializes and reports on performance and screen quality are positive, I may consider it as a trade up from my NC.

ASUS Eee Pad MeMO

I've walked through a few pages in this NC world and don't see anyone mentions about this little tablet so I post.
Name: ASUS Eee Pad MeMO
Price: expect to be $250
Screen: 7" 1280x800 IPS capacitive touchscreen
Processor: quad-core NVIDIA Tegra 3
RAM: 1GB
OS: ICS
Camera: 5MP back, 2MP front
GPS: ?
Hmmmm, it looks very good.

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I've walked through a few pages in this NC world and don't see anyone mentions about this little tablet so I post.
Name: ASUS Eee Pad MeMO
Price: expect to be $250
Screen: 7" 1280x800 IPS capacitive touchscreen
Processor: quad-core NVIDIA Tegra 3
RAM: 1GB
OS: ICS
Camera: 5MP back, 2MP front
GPS: ?
Hmmmm, it looks very good.
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$250 for a quadcore tablet? hell, yeah!
Tapatalkin' it from my rooted NookColor running CM7 MiRaGe [KANG] [7.2 RC] overclocked @ 1.2 GHz

Sounds like it'll be a great deal when it's actually available in the wild. For now, my NC is meetings my needs well enough that I'm debating between getting a Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 Plus, or waiting for the Asus MeMO or something like it.

I definitely have the 7" tablet bug, but only had my NC for a few months. Not quite ready to upgrade. However, when the time comes, this sure has my attention.

Again, it's just a demo and I don't believe we will know for sure its hw. spec. until very close date to release, which ........ who knows? probably this summer? or Xmas?
I've read here and there, some say it's ready to ship, some others say it'll be in Q2.
Don't know yet but sure, it looks very optimistic.

Thanks for directing my attention to this beast. Already has $250 cash ready to throw at Asus when it is released.
Just got two Nooks for Xmas (one for wife). But I'm already bored with it. Lack of video acceleration in CM9 and lack of built-in GPS is a downer.

jdpdata said:
Thanks for directing my attention to this beast. Already has $250 cash ready to throw at Asus when it is released.
Just got two Nooks for Xmas (one for wife). But I'm already bored with it. Lack of video acceleration in CM9 and lack of built-in GPS is a downer.
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Yes, if it's GPS capable then, heck yes, I shall give it some love, however, it reported having A-GPS, which mostly requires data network to work with, can't do offline GPS alone. But again, let's just hope.

Just wish that Asus is clever enough and put NO locks on its bootloader as Nook Color did. This is the better and faster alternative for Nook Color Tablet. Kindle Fire and NT are for eReader only, and are not designed for tablet from the beginning.

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Just wish that Asus is clever enough and put NO locks on its bootloader as Nook Color did. This is the better and faster alternative for Nook Color Tablet. Kindle Fire and NT are for eReader only, and are not designed for tablet from the beginning.
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If rooting is atleast possible, I wouldn't mind at all. What's the point of a bootloader unlock when you already have an unskinned ICS running on it?

votinh said:
Yes, if it's GPS capable then, heck yes, I shall give it some love, however, it reported having A-GPS, which mostly requires data network to work with, can't do offline GPS alone. But again, let's just hope.
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Lots of A-GPS devices still have full standalone GPS capability, though you're right that some don't. For example, my Incredible gets great GPS accuracy in airplane mode even if the initial time to lock is longer.
That said, I can imagine there must be a lot of little concessions to meet a pricepoint like that so I wouldn't be too surprised if it doesn't have full GPS capability. Wifi might be stripped down like so many budget tablets too, i.e. 2.4GHz only, possibly even limited to 54mbps.

Looking forward to seeing this new asus tablet, I did see this post ealier though stating that it wouldn't be as awesome as it looks, because some rumors say that Google has chosen Asus to manufacture their new nexus tablet. If this happens, Asus will have to compromise on both internal storage as well as replace the processor. It will however be a whole chunk cheaper.
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If you were holding off on rooting your NT because you were going to sell and buy the Memo 370T, you can forget about it.
I'm not happy about this at all. I was really looking forward to a great mid-range 7" tablet: $250, Tegra 3 quad core processor, full Android ICS, camera, etc.
The latest rumors are that Google has chosen Asus to manufacture its new Nexus tablet to compete with the Kindle Fire. To be able to do this, they'll probably have to cut the internal storage and use a different processor.
Reports are that it will cost $150, which is insanely cheap, and even though I do like Asus products, I'll probably be sticking with my NT. My mother's going to be upset, she was looking forward to getting my NT when I bought the 370T.
Rant over.
Here's the source: http://androidcommunity.com/insider...ancelled-rebranded-the-nexus-tablet-20120316/
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But then again, these are just rumors :b I'm really looking forward to this and I think I'm still gonna get one of my own

I've completely forgotten about this thread, my thread
Anyway, as I said earlier in different thread, this device is too good to be true.
For that much of money $250 packed with those high-end spec, it's not gonna happen, not until the year of 2013 or even 2014.
And again, 370T has been killed, we're not gonna see it.
They will slash $50 with dual-core processor, half of the promise internal storage, lower screen resolution and different chipset. When will it be available? No clue.
Again, just a rumor.

I'd love a reasonably priced, full features tablet that didn't have to be constantly hacked to get the latest Android on it. A Google NExus tablet sounds good.

Well word from digitimes(which has a good track record with asus rumors) is reporting that not only will asus release the nexus tablet but the memo 370t is still being made and will be released in may-June.

frenize said:
Well word from digitimes(which has a good track record with asus rumors) is reporting that not only will asus release the nexus tablet but the memo 370t is still being made and will be released in may-June.
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Link, pls?

votinh said:
I've walked through a few pages in this NC world and don't see anyone mentions about this little tablet so I post.
Name: ASUS Eee Pad MeMO
Price: expect to be $250
Screen: 7" 1280x800 IPS capacitive touchscreen
Processor: quad-core NVIDIA Tegra 3
RAM: 1GB
OS: ICS
Camera: 5MP back, 2MP front
GPS: ?
Hmmmm, it looks very good.
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Thanks for the inform, but at the same time, I'm always wondering why this type of post is done in the NC forums portion of XDA. Seems to me that the general forums for Android would be the best place for these posts. Helps encourage us to check in there from time to time.
But when I come to the NC forum portion, I really want my information to be relevant to that device.

SeaFractor said:
Thanks for the inform, but at the same time, I'm always wondering why this type of post is done in the NC forums portion of XDA. Seems to me that the general forums for Android would be the best place for these posts. Helps encourage us to check in there from time to time.
But when I come to the NC forum portion, I really want my information to be relevant to that device.
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Then don't read, don't reply, don't waste your time, m8.

I also wait for news on this Asus tablet !!! And believe it is relevant to the nook, since it could be an alternative for many users here.... Hope to get some updates sooon!!!

The unfortunate thing of Nexus devices is that Google will likely specify that it does NOT include a micro SD card slot, which might make it a non-starter for me.