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HTC Touch Diamond Vs iPhone 3G

OK so now that both have been officially announced, and both will be out in the UK in July, what would you go for and why?
Personally, I iPhone 3G holds a lot of appeal for me, it has resolved all its shortcomings from the original version it’s a tough choice.
For me, the only thing holing me back are: -
1. Support for third party applications, it’s limited at the moment, but will get better over time.
2. A proper satnav application that can make use of the built in GPS (TomTom on the iPhone 3G!)
Please share your thoughts...

Most of the new software features are things that Windows Mobile has done for ages. I'm actually quite pleased with the 3G iPhone - the Touch Diamond has it beaten in key areas for me. These include style, size (apparently it has got bigger, while HTC has managed to make the Touch Diamond smaller than the Touch), handy features and third-party applications.
What shocks me is the way people are reacting to some of the features - Apple seemed to introduce A-GPS as some sort of new innovation, when the Touch Diamond is already out in places, with that very feature...

If you heard the keynote you'll see that apple will have the phone call home. They also sign every executable. That means 'homebrew' wont really exist.
They said that developers can still make free apps, but they have to be distributed through the apple store. In the end thats not going to make a huge difference and you'll see plenty of apps for the iphone appear very very quickly.
For me the 3g iphone wins in everything except size and screen resolution. The main thing that made me think twice about the diamond was the 3g iphone battery life!
.. to be continued.. not decided yet

Dark Fire I know what you mean. Apple fan-boys always seem to be impressed when Apple implement something Windows has been doing for years, and this is not just in iPhone but also the Mac OS as well.
For my money I would go with the Touch Diamond anyday. Apple will always have too much control over it for my liking - I mean today people seemed ecstatic that Apple would now allow you to make and buy applications for it!

Tim 45 said:
Dark Fire I know what you mean. Apple fan-boys always seem to be impressed when Apple implement something Windows has been doing for years, and this is not just in iPhone but also the Mac OS as well.
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True, but you got to admit whatever windows does, osx and linux do about 10 fold faster.

Can't buy an iPhone, if you have fingernails, you can't use the keyboard. Useless.

Actually that reminds me... on the iphone you can press a key, and it kind of pops up the letter above your finger. You can slide your finger to another letter if that one is wrong i.e. it only picks the letter when you lift your finger.
Does the HTC keyboard do that at all?

Well, as pointless it may be to others, size & weight really matters to me & the Diamond fits perfectly in my hand or pocket can't say that about the iphone the only downside to having that stunning 3.5" screen.

No, it doesnt

someone1234 - Yes.

I think I will be sticking with the diamond, and then waiting and seeing what applications come out for the iPhone. I can always move over to it.

Would you need to include the Sammy i900 in this comparison? Due about the same time.

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someone1234 - Yes.
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cool! thanks.
I think once the 3G iphone is unlockable i'll buy one. For $199 its a bargain. Until then its not worth it - there'll be no decent apps, and what there are will probably cost stupid money.
So I'm decided.. sticking with diamond.

Size is the big issue for me. Diamond wins hands down.
In fact, the only point that iPhone wins is in the interface but TouchFlo is not far behind now, after tweaks

Somehow i think an unlocked iphone 3g is gonna cost a lot more than $200!! more like $300-$350 your forgetting thats $200 plus a maybe 2 year contract!
IMO the diamond has it beat apart from the memory.
Diamond has these over the 3g iphone:
Twice the resolution
video calling
faster browsing
Stereo bluetooth Headphone Support (not confirmed on the 3g iphone)
Picture Messaging (not confirmed on the 3g iphone)
Stylus if prefered
Better Camera
Way More Apps and games for now.
Not restricted to certain providers.

someone1234 said:
True, but you got to admit whatever windows does, osx and linux do about 10 fold faster.
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Indeed - 10 fold faster, several years later. That's the main difference these days...
someone1234 said:
Actually that reminds me... on the iphone you can press a key, and it kind of pops up the letter above your finger. You can slide your finger to another letter if that one is wrong i.e. it only picks the letter when you lift your finger.
Does the HTC keyboard do that at all?
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Yes, it definitely does that. The problem with the HTC keyboard is that the letter doesn't appear above the key you're pressing - the key sort of expands, so it's still mostly obscured by your finger. I don't really know why HTC thought that was better...
jkr284 said:
Somehow i think an unlocked iphone 3g is gonna cost a lot more than $200!! more like $300-$350 your forgetting thats $200 plus a maybe 2 year contract!
IMO the diamond has it beat apart from the memory.
Diamond has these over the 3g iphone:
Twice the resolution
video calling
faster browsing
Stereo bluetooth Headphone Support (not confirmed on the 3g iphone)
Picture Messaging (not confirmed on the 3g iphone)
Stylus if prefered
Better Camera
Way More Apps and games for now.
Not restricted to certain providers.
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Exactly my point. The tables have turned - the Touch Diamond has the 3G iPhone out handy-featurised and, if anything, the Touch Diamond slightly wins on specs too.
Also, yeah, I think $199 is with a contract. I was reading that Apple wouldn't let network operators subsidise the iPhone before, but now they will let them do that, hence the much lower price.

imranbashir_uk said:
OK so now that both have been officially announced, and both will be out in the UK in July, what would you go for and why?
Personally, I iPhone 3G holds a lot of appeal for me, it has resolved all its shortcomings from the original version it’s a tough choice.
For me, the only thing holing me back are: -
1. Support for third party applications, it’s limited at the moment, but will get better over time.
2. A proper satnav application that can make use of the built in GPS (TomTom on the iPhone 3G!)
Please share your thoughts...
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TomTom for iPhone is already in beta testing and should be released shortly after the 3G iPhone hits stores.

imranbashir_uk said:
OK so now that both have been officially announced, and both will be out in the UK in July, what would you go for and why?
Personally, I iPhone 3G holds a lot of appeal for me, it has resolved all its shortcomings from the original version it’s a tough choice.
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But.... how about cut/copy/paste -- no mention of them.
For me, after trying two different iphones, I have to say that iphone2 is underwhelming -- we who have WinMo phones have been using the direct push email for more than a year and the volume of apps available (many either free or very inexpensive) tip the balance. I know apple has an advantage in controlling hardware and software-- they can optimize them and we see faster performance (but not always) -- but with WinMo there's both hardware and software that will fit everyone's needs/wants. Speed isn't everything.... and I kind of like the freedom from "mother apple" control (according to current info it will be extremely difficult to jailbreak this system).

Why you need an apple when there is HTC

one thing iPhone 3G got its CHEAP hehehehe

Need some advice on what to buy.

First a little story
Recently I helped a friend out and built him a kick ass Vista Media Center HTPC and networked his entire house with extenders, touchscreen PC for most of his rooms and even a Media Center Extender in his shower with a touch screen lol. Basicly how i envisioned my dream house would be if i ever managed to get out of college. Seeing how I saved him thousands by doing this by myself he gave me his 32GB Ipod Touch 1st Generation also because he just got himself an Iphone 3G.
Now first off I hate Apple....alot... hate their OS, hate their stupid laptops (my i-tard friends claim they are different by using macs yet when I enter a lecture hall everybody has identical white or black macbooks...). Don't get me started about apple people, whenever my girlfriend drags me into the apple store to look for cute accessories for her ipod I seemed always run into one of those "you should switch over to macs" people or the employees that have the "eww you like Vista" I try to ignore it but something a small OS war would ensue.
Anyways the first thing I did was put this thing up for sale on ebay. During the few days that I was waiting I began playing with the ipod touch and soon i started liking it. It's not the most amazing thing ever since i come from a long history of touchscreen devices (Asus A620, Axim x30, Axim X50V, HTC Tytn) but i love the 3.5 inch screen and the mutli touch is awesome. Safari is not bad and I'm constantly amazed by it's size and performance. Soon however Someone bought my player off of ebay for $330 before I could take down the listing.
Now heres the advice I need. I can get an Ipod Touch 32GB 2nd Generation for about $350 but now i started thinking if I really need this thing. The main attraction I had for this device was the fact that it has sooo many applications for it now since it's become popular and that it's soo small. The only other device i want is something the same size that is running Windows Mobile and has atleast 32GB of internal storage. I don't know of any PMP devices that run windows mobile.
But then i remembered that my Axim X50v has a larger screen with higher resolution 640x480 and has bluetooth and Wifi. I can also get 16GB SDHC and 16GB Compact Flash for under $100 on ebay therefore = ipod touch capacity. The only thing is, its quite large and unsexy by today standards and it doesn't have TV-Out or multi touch....
Also should i even be getting a PMP since I'm already getting an Xperia X1 or Touch Pro once AT&T or T-Mobile has them....
Or should I save the money and wait for the super sexy UMPC of my dreams the Viliv S7 http://www.umpcportal.com/products/product.php?id=218
wow that was alot of rambling...

I went throu a debate similar to this as well, recieved an Ipot tough for my birthday, whenI was using my tilt as my MP3 solution. the only thing I liked more was the bump in space, as I didnt need to constantly plug in my SD card. No BT audio is the killer on these devices. It's the most simple of features to implement, why they left this out off BOTH gen iphones and the ipods is beyond my feeble mind... lol.
I say wait for the touch pro or experia. Its never going to be as smooth as the apple interface, but as far as features go, I think most power users will lean towards winMo for customization options, and all in one convenience.
My two cents.

[Q] Are you getting an Android Tablet this year? Which one?

With so many tablets coming out over the next few months, it seems to be a task just to find out which is the best value. We have some dual-cores, which are about 2X as much as the Archos 101 tablet; Google employees stating that Android's current state is not meant for the tablet form-factor; Android 3.0 (Gingerbread) on the horizon, which should be optimized for tablet-use.
The ones that I know about (and I'm sure I'm missing some)
Samsung Galaxy Tab
Archos 101
Archos 71
eLocity
Folio
So with all that said, for those of you planning on buying an Android tablet, which are you going to get? Are you going to be looking for one thing in particular (i.e. dual-core, or the first Gingerbread tablet), or are you just going to get the first one out?
I'm a little torn right now. With Google TV coming out soon (expected within one month), I honestly don't know if I can find the money for all of these gadgets, including getting the first dual-core 3.0 phone. I'm in need of other peoples' opinions.

Yesterday I was 100% certain I was going to get a Galaxy Tab. I woke up this morning and my RSS feeds are telling me it won't have voice capabilities, so now there is a 0% chance I will be picking one up. Even with the 4 carrier blitz, I suspect the Galaxy Tab will be a flop, but who knows..
I'll probably just get a Windows Phone 7 phone and wait for HTC's Q1 2011 tablet. Hopefully there will be native VOIP in Android by that time and I can get a Wi-Fi only tab off-contract for less than $300. I think the 7" form factor is the way to go too.

A part of me hopes WP7 flops just so I'm not tempted to get one. We'll find out soon.
I'm also with you that 7" seems to be the way to go. I'd still like to do a side-by-side comparison with a 10" though.

Tired of waiting.
When I heard Google saying that Froyo wasn't for tablets I realized I'd be waiting a while for an Android based tablet. Or I'd be looking at a Chrome OS tablet and I said screw it and bought an iPad.

Ipad is a little too large, and Tab is a little too small. I want something 9x6, just like a steno pad. I also wouldn't mind Chrome instead of Android as the operating system.
PS: Video chat and VOIP over wifi only? WTF is Samsung thinking? Why would Android owners buy a 3G model when our phones are freakin' hotspots?

Notionink Adam

Since the launch of iPad, sometimes I stop and think - why the hell would anyone need a tablet, and what exactly is this oversized phone good for?
Its functionality is lacking severely when compared to any normal laptop, but these things still require a bag to carry them around, because of their size. And if I want some productivity and have to carry a bag anyway - I'll most definitely be taking my laptop with me. For anything else, I have my phone that doesn't require a bag. So what's good in them? What can you do with one? Surf the web and watch videos? That's all?

Jack_R1 said:
Since the launch of iPad, sometimes I stop and think - why the hell would anyone need a tablet, and what exactly is this oversized phone good for?
Its functionality is lacking severely when compared to any normal laptop, but these things still require a bag to carry them around, because of their size. And if I want some productivity and have to carry a bag anyway - I'll most definitely be taking my laptop with me. For anything else, I have my phone that doesn't require a bag. So what's good in them? What can you do with one? Surf the web and watch videos? That's all?
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With my Nexus, I would say I use it 5% of the time as a phone (SMS, calls), the other 95% of the time is spent surfing the web, playing games, and watching videos. I feel like I am an ideal candidate for a person who would find a tablet extremely useful. It's not about productivity for me, and when it is I go straight to my laptop. For me it's about the leisure time, killing time, comfortably -- and not having to squint when reading webpages.
I think a tablet would be simply my home go-to device. If I'm the type of person who would rather surf the web on my phone vs. my 17", 5 lb laptop (due to size, weight, convenience), then I'm definitely the type of person who would prefer a 7-10" tablet over my 3.7" phone.

bigmout said:
Ipad is a little too large, and Tab is a little too small. I want something 9x6, just like a steno pad. I also wouldn't mind Chrome instead of Android as the operating system.
PS: Video chat and VOIP over wifi only? WTF is Samsung thinking? Why would Android owners buy a 3G model when our phones are freakin' hotspots?
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I bought a wifi iPad because of my N1! I agree 9x6 would be nice. But, games on a bigger screen and books is what did it for me.
I think Google should pick ONE manufacture and create devices like they did with the n1. Android is getting to be a little to all over the place, especially now that tablets are becoming something the general public wants. If Google wants Android or Chrome on tabs, they need to figure it out now.
I love Google products but I also would rather spend my money on something I know will work great and look great. I would like to see my Android apps on a bigger screen, but not if they look like crap.

I'm looking at the Archos 101, as long as I can fenagle the Android market onto it.
Jack_R1 said:
Since the launch of iPad, sometimes I stop and think - why the hell would anyone need a tablet, and what exactly is this oversized phone good for?
Its functionality is lacking severely when compared to any normal laptop, but these things still require a bag to carry them around, because of their size. And if I want some productivity and have to carry a bag anyway - I'll most definitely be taking my laptop with me. For anything else, I have my phone that doesn't require a bag. So what's good in them? What can you do with one? Surf the web and watch videos? That's all?
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I'll have it on a dock in my living room....it will serve as a toy for my 3-year-old daughter (she loves my n1...even more than my mom's iphone! xD), laptop "replacement", as well as my universal remote once I get my Google TV set-top box.

Getting an HD7, some questions about the device.

1. Is the gunmetal/chrome/shiny band around the device metal? It looks like the plastic on my galaxy s in the pictures, but a bunch of reviewers have said that it's metal.
2. How do you guys like windows phone 7?
3. Is there any compelling reason not to buy the phone? (I can't think of any new wp7 phones coming out on tmobile)
Thank you for answering!

My first suggestion is to make sure if any the feature currently missing from WP& matter to you such as the MMS Video feature. IMHO, WP7 is the best cell OS I've used. It's very fast & does what it can do very well. GPS is much faster than it was on my old TP2. Been a while since I played with Android to compare the GPS on it. What I mean is it locates you very fast. On my TP2, it'd take a few mins just to find a satellite. Keep in mind in order to get GPS, I had to unlock my device & load a patched Navigon Select XAP & load my maps for the USA. As for the hardware, it is very nice IMO. The only metal on it though is the kick stand & a small piece on the back below the battery door.

I plan on keeping my galaxy s until I've made a decision. I can sell one or the other. (My friend offered me his HD7 for $200 which seems like a good price judging by what I'm seeing on ebay and craigslist)
From what I can tell, it has everything that I need.
Another question that I'd like to add is how is wifi support on the os? I currently have no data plan and run only on wifi. This has worked well for me as my school has free wifi in most places.

WiFi works great for me & doesn't seem to effect battery life as badly as it did on my old TP2. I keep it on WiFi when ever I'm at home.

Thanks! 10char

WP7 is very solid, but it's not as developed as Android. As the above post suggests, you should review the feature-set and make sure there aren't any critical absences.
I don't quite agree on the build quality. Having used an iPhone 3G, a Nexus One, and an HD2, the HD7 falls short IMO. It has an attractive design, no doubt, but the materials/execution feel somewhat cheap in comparison. My HD7 for example has a rattly battery door and originally had terrible buttons. HTC fixed the camera button, but the other three are a bit squishy feeling. If you buy the phone, make sure you check the buttons!
$200 is a pretty solid price IMO. I bought one with the button quality problems (mint otherwise) for $250, and I thought that was a really good price.
Having said all that, I'm not sure if it's your best bet with regard to the Wifi. As far as I know (and I could be TOTALLY wrong), the Wifi shuts off when the screen turns off, and there is no way to change this behavior. Don't think you'll get notifications with no data plan. I recently switched from a Vibrant (and I also don't have a data plan), and it was/is somewhat of a problem. Again though, there might be a way to control the Wifi standby.

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WP7 is very solid, but it's not as developed as Android. As the above post suggests, you should review the feature-set and make sure there aren't any critical absences.
I don't quite agree on the build quality. Having used an iPhone 3G, a Nexus One, and an HD2, the HD7 falls short IMO. It has an attractive design, no doubt, but the materials/execution feel somewhat cheap in comparison. My HD7, for example has a rattly battery door and originally had terrible buttons. HTC fixed the camera button, but the other three are a bit squishy feeling. If you buy the phone, make sure you check the buttons!
$200 is a pretty solid price IMO. I bought one with the button quality problems (mint otherwise) for $250, and I thought that was a really good price.
Having said all that, I'm not sure if it's your best bet with regard to the Wifi. As far as I know (and I could be TOTALLY wrong), the Wifi shuts off when the screen turns off, and there is no way to change this behavior. Don't think you'll get notifications with no data plan. I recently switched from a Vibrant (and I also don't have a data plan), and it was/is somewhat of a problem. Again though, there might be a way to control the Wifi standby.
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Thanks! I don't mind the wifi thing, that's how I have my vibrant set up (it drains the battery otherwise)
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Wait, that chrome on the sides is plastic covered with paint? It feels much more solid that the plastic bezel on the Vibrant though.

i've had 6 android devices in the past and i traded my android for the HD7 and i am very pleased with that decision.
Wp7 is so fast and smooth! its just beautiful and i love the metro ui. my mom has the galaxy s 4g and android just feels so stale and dated compared to how beautiful and smooth wp7 is. yea its not as developed but the things this phone does is genius! people, photos, music & video hubs are all genius and has nice things that i would truly miss if i ever switched to another OS. you find lil things that you think are genius lol. like for me ima HUGE picture freak and the fact i can go directly into picture taking while the screen is off is genius for me plus the camera software is the easiest i have used plus its fast.
wp7 is the most original os and i love it! i dont have to worry about force closes or downloaded utilities too keep my phone running at peak performance. the type of apps i dowloaded on android are completely different now. i download fun stuff and not utilities. i was a power user with android flashing the latest roms and re setting up my phone every week or so and now i dont have to worry about that.
your gmail account syncs flawless with wp7 as if its a android phone lol, and im talking contacts, calender, and email and top it all off its push email!
the data on the works fast. i had the g2 and mytouch 4g but things seem to load faster on the HD7.
i really like the OS an im very satisfied with it! i cant wait to see whats in store for the future on the OS. people truly dont give it enough credit

Anybody here own or use a Nokia N9?

After reading the Endgadget review, I'm kinda considering getting one, mostly for how easy-to-use the UI is, and the nice sleek physical design of it. I currently have a HTC G2, and I'd either be upgrading to the new Nexus on T-Mobile (or if it doesn't have the proper bands, the GSII on T-Mobile) otherwise. Getting an iPhone (for the UI and sleek design) is out of the question since I can't get it on T-Mobile, and don't want to pay for AT&T or whoever when I can pay $40 and get all that I want.
I know, Meego is dead and there aren't many apps for it, it isn't that powerful, there's a WP7 version coming out, etc. - but I want a phone that's good at the basics (phone calls, texts, emails, and web browsing) with a nice screen/size, battery life, and camera, and the N9 seems to do all of that just fine.
I don't care for games or other such apps, and a lot of the "nice" features on these new phones (like huge screens, NFC, etc.) don't appeal that much to me (I'd be getting the Nexus or whatever more for dev support and screen quality than anything else).
I mean, I have CM7 on my G2 and I even OC'd it, but there isn't much on it that I can't live without by getting rid of Android (and I'd probably get a Honeycomb tablet to supplement the N9, if anything).
Anyway...anybody here use or own one that can comment on how it performs and feels and whatnot?
Also, any idea how the N8 with the Anna update fares now? I'm looking at it based mostly on the amazing camera/flash.

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I just got the N9 about a week ago. The os is so smooth and so easy to use. The design is great as well. Pictures and video does not do justice you really have to see it in person. I had Android and IOS and for me Meego is a way better OS, only problem is the apps store. But like you I can live without all those apps, Nokia already have intergraded apps and the import ones I use are in the App store.

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I just got the N9 about a week ago. The os is so smooth and so easy to use. The design is great as well. Pictures and video does not do justice you really have to see it in person. I had Android and IOS and for me Meego is a way better OS, only problem is the apps store. But like you I can live without all those apps, Nokia already have intergraded apps and the import ones I use are in the App store.
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Yeah, I can definitely live without the apps, but looking into it, Skype video calls don't seem to work on Meego or Symbian Anna, so I think any Nokia device is out for me...I'm currently looking at the iPhone 4S instead, with a prepaid carrier.
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It's does have nfc so much for not having features xD nobody beats Nokia
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I read into it a lot, and it's not full NFC - it's missing some security-related stuff which won't ever allow it to have virtual wallets like Google Wallet.

Hi all,
I don't know if this thread is still alive, but I figured that maybe there are still people out there wondering whether to get the N9.
I've got mine sitting on my desk right now, and wow! it's such a beautiful piece of hard- and software! I've tried them all, iOS, Android, WP, webOS - and Meego on the N9 just beats them all in terms of pleasure in usage. The screen where you get time, weather, missed notifications and facebook/twitter/RSS feeds has just about all the info you need in one neat place. It makes even the WP UI look fragmented. So this is a gorgeous device...
IF...
... if you can live with restricted options as far as apps and expandability go. If you're okay with the N9 as it is, you'll love it. It does calls, email, SMS/MMS, Calendar, on- and offline navigation (Nokia Drive!), RSS feeds etc beautifully. (although I found that even my old Windows Mobile 6.1 devices offered deeper support for Outlook integration). The browser is very minimalistic. There are a few preinstalled additional apps that I don't use, and there's a bit more in the Store. That's about it.
Like I said - for sheer joy of use (the live standby screen with time and notifications alone is a beauty) this is the best device I've used so far. For the expensive device that the N9 still is, even on eBay, there are far more powerful alternatives out there.
The thing is: I LIKE IT, and don't see myself giving it away. For the money I've spent (I have the 64 GB version) I could get a SGSII or similar, but if you've used the N9 you'll find any Android or iOS user interface offensive. Not to mention the hardware: Size is just perfectly right, and you'll be hard pressed to find a device with similar elegance out there. The HTC One X has taken design clues from the N9 (like the curved glass), but it doesn't match the comfortable fit in your palm.
Give me a shout if there's anything particular you want to know.
N.

They are beautiful, if the lumia 800 had all the same hardware, it'd be the best phone ever. Right now, the Nokia n9 may reign supreme. It multitasks better than the one x

Nightcookie said:
Hi all,
I don't know if this thread is still alive, but I figured that maybe there are still people out there wondering whether to get the N9.
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Yeah, interestingly enough I was just thinking about the N9 again the other day. Thanks for the detailed post, I'm definitely interested in it again. I've realized that in day-to-day use, I'm perfectly fine with the functions/features you mentioned - if anything, I'd prefer something that minimalistic so it doesn't get too cluttered. I'd still want to keep an Android device for certain apps (like Square), of course.
Anyway, I guess I have three kinda important questions:
-Can the N9 sync Google contacts, calendar, and mail?
-The N9 can do wireless hotspost, correct? And how does it affect battery life?
-How's the virtual keyboard? Coming from a G2, I want to make sure I don't end up regretting the switch.

magus57 said:
Yeah, interestingly enough I was just thinking about the N9 again the other day. Thanks for the detailed post, I'm definitely interested in it again. I've realized that in day-to-day use, I'm perfectly fine with the functions/features you mentioned - if anything, I'd prefer something that minimalistic so it doesn't get too cluttered. I'd still want to keep an Android device for certain apps (like Square), of course.
Anyway, I guess I have three kinda important questions:
-Can the N9 sync Google contacts, calendar, and mail?
-The N9 can do wireless hotspost, correct? And how does it affect battery life?
-How's the virtual keyboard? Coming from a G2, I want to make sure I don't end up regretting the switch.
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yes it syncs google contacts, the wireless hotspot offers a bit more battery drain, but barely noticable, your options are swype, which I took, or the stock keyboard which is the only one I've seen rival WP7 in terms of responsiveness. Its a great experience.

z33dev33l said:
yes it syncs google contacts, the wireless hotspot offers a bit more battery drain, but barely noticable, your options are swype, which I took, or the stock keyboard which is the only one I've seen rival WP7 in terms of responsiveness. Its a great experience.
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I think I'm sold on it, especially for the pentaband 3G (meaning I can switch carriers easily if I want to). Now I'm wondering what Android device I'd want to supplement it. I'm thinking either a Xperia Play with a bad ESN (since they go as cheap as $100 and would be great for portable gaming) or some 7" tablet (probably the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, although that wouldn't be as portable as the Play...).

You could also just dual-boot android on it... It does emulation up to the playstation better than ANY android phone.
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z33dev33l said:
You could also just dual-boot android on it... It does emulation up to the playstation better than ANY android phone.
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Wait, really? I remember hearing something about an Android port, but it was really buggy/unfinished - how is it now? Do you have a link to it maybe?
In any case, I'd still probably prefer the Xperia Play if only for the hardware controls (not a big fan of touchscreen controls, especially when something like a PS1 game would take up like half the screen in buttons) - and at $100 for a dedicated gaming device, I can't say it'd break the bank.

http://forum.nitdroid.com/index.php?topic=94.0
It's pretty complete, I only had one issue overall in that I couldn't turn when driving on NFS, aside from that I didn't notice any issues. I'll still speak on the behalf of emumaster though, it's outstanding. I bought an xperia play for the same reason, because with all my Lumia love, I can't emulate a PS1 on it and why buy a new psvita when you can just buy a play?

z33dev33l said:
http://forum.nitdroid.com/index.php?topic=94.0
It's pretty complete, I only had one issue overall in that I couldn't turn when driving on NFS, aside from that I didn't notice any issues. I'll still speak on the behalf of emumaster though, it's outstanding. I bought an xperia play for the same reason, because with all my Lumia love, I can't emulate a PS1 on it and why buy a new psvita when you can just buy a play?
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Oh wow, didn't think it'd be that nice. Any idea if it's still being worked on? Only ask since it's been a little over a month since the last update.
Also, can you still get official updates for Meego with that, or would an update screw everything up, or what? In any case, with it being able to dual-boot, it's nice to know I wouldn't have to worry about forgetting my Android device in case I need to take a Square transaction or something. And I'd definitely get the 64GB version in that case.
EDIT: Just saw the Alpha #3 on that same site, nice.

Spoke with the developer last Thursday and he said he expected to keep working on it after finals, he's had a hectic schedule. There have been no official updates since nitdroids release but they are speculating that it will block nitdroid when the next pr goes public.

Crap...I just won ~$50 of accessories toward a T-Mobile phone of my choice, and now I don't know whether I should still get the N9 and forfeit the accessories, or get a One S (which would be about the same price as the 16GB N9) with said accessories. I do really prefer the design/style of the N9, but the One S certainly does have its advantages (faster data, much better specs, and full Android primarily)...

Edit: sorry my phone went crazy and quoted the post

the n9 sounds really great. unique UI that makes the phone easy to use. lets ignore the fact that this phone is getting less and less support and has a poor app selection
why pick the n9 over the galaxy nexus? they are about the same price and as unique as the n9 is, isn't the UI of ICS just as usable? i wish the n9 was 50-100 bucks cheaper!