What are the chances ICS will come to the BIONIC via an update?
How about custom roms, e.g., Cyanogenmod? I understand ICS is GPU accelerated... will it even be possible for ICS to be custom ported w/o (writing) hardware drivers for the graphics acceleration? At least before Motorola provides an update...
okashira said:
What are the chances ICS will come to the BIONIC via an update?
How about custom roms, e.g., Cyanogenmod? I understand ICS is GPU accelerated... will it even be possible for ICS to be custom ported w/o (writing) hardware drivers for the graphics acceleration? At least before Motorola provides an update...
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Well, its hard to say but ICS was written around OMAP processors and Moto Mobility will soon be ran by Google so its a good chance we will see it on the Bionic hopefully.
We just have to pray that Google open-sources ICS unlike Honeycomb. If not, i forsee CM branching off into its own Distro for future builds kind of Linux has done on desktop computers.
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Schmidt already said ICS will be open-sourced, so no worries there. As for custom ROMs, I saw an alpha version of CM7 being worked on & UNL3ASH3D is great right now in its infancy. I say no worries...
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Hi bought my milestone this week and wanted to know about 2.2 update wen it is coming out i checked the phone spec on gsm arena and it said upgradable to 2.2 ? Thanks
delayed again..
suppose to be early Q1 2011 now it Q1 2011.
originally it was Sep 2010.
so, root & install gingerbread from Milestone Development section.
alijs said:
delayed again..
suppose to be early Q1 2011 now it Q1 2011.
originally it was Sep 2010.
so, root & install gingerbread from Milestone Development section.
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thats the way to go instead of waiting on motorola's lazy ass
byaco said:
thats the way to go instead of waiting on motorola's lazy ass
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Problem is thanks to locked bootloader we still have to rely on them for a kernel
Hopefully they'll provide us with a good Froyo kernel with the official release, but we'll never get a true Gingerbread kernel
chambo622 said:
Problem is thanks to locked bootloader we still have to rely on them for a kernel
Hopefully they'll provide us with a good Froyo kernel with the official release, but we'll never get a true Gingerbread kernel
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It doesnt matter anyways. I'm running gingerbread for several days now and it runs flawless. The speed is amazing and the improvement compared to 2.2 is noticeable. You wont be needing a 2.3 kernel. I think the milestone can stay with this. Installing an AOSP Gingerbread + some memory tweaks in open recovery juices the most from this phone. Flash works perfectly! Can it get better than this?
I believe when the minor bugs(mostly unnoticeable) in Gingerbread will be fixed everything is going to be great.
So who cares about motorola anyways?!
may someone kindly explain how is this possible to "run" gingerbread on froyo kernel (as same as it was with froyo running on eclair kernel)?
What exactly do we get by running new OS without new kernel?
What will be better if we would have gingerbread kernel for the gingebread roms?
It would be nice to know why is this, not just how it manifests.
With the froyo leak, a new kernel was released, so there are a lot of ROMs that can replicate froyo performance for real now... and please correct me if i'm wrong but gingerbread is based on the froyo kernel right? so thats why we've already got froyo as well as GB roms for milestone...
if we are lucky end of February, early March official release is to be expected
Yeah froyo will be one your er.. our phone in two weeks.
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gingerbread is based on the froyo kernel right?
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no, there is some difference in version number
btw people writing things like
"in two weeks"
"at the end of the march"
are wild guesses, right? or do you have any background info you can share with us?
MuF123 said:
no, there is some difference in version number
btw people writing things like
"in two weeks"
"at the end of the march"
are wild guesses, right? or do you have any background info you can share with us?
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Official statements are still in the form of Q1 2011...the rest is guessing. I suggest you root your phone and learn how to flash ROMs. Froyo (2.2) is the end of the line for our phone from Mot...but the community already has 2.3 working.
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Caz666 said:
Official statements are still in the form of Q1 2011...the rest is guessing. I suggest you root your phone and learn how to flash ROMs. Froyo (2.2) is the end of the line for our phone from Mot...but the community already has 2.3 working.
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I've already had tried almost every rom available for milestone, I just hope that the official froyo release will bring the devs some better ground to build their roms on, isn't that right? Won't be the official froyo release any better?
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I've already had tried almost every rom available for milestone, I just hope that the official froyo release will bring the devs some better ground to build their roms on, isn't that right? Won't be the official froyo release any better?
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You are probably right to a certain extent...the kernel and motor drivers are not release/final. But for all we know, the latest leak is final.
What problems remain for you?
The latest android leak has excellent battery life and performance in CM7 is through the roof...
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The cm9 ics 4.0v go to milestone?
donno about CM9 but MIUI GALNET has android 4.0...
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donno about CM9 but MIUI GALNET has android 4.0...
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it's not an ICS
thks folks!
will be very nice for my miles!
big deal for milestone
what features do you expect from ICS?
i really don't get it
compatibility
i don't understand. compatibility with what?
compatibility with new applications designed for ICS
Time to bury the dream: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5181/cyanogenmod-9-should-support-most-cm7compatible-devices
While these newer chips will get early attention, Cyanogen said that support for most of the devices compatible with the Gingerbread-based CyanogenMod 7 would be forthcoming - he singled out Qualcomm's QSD8250 and the Google Nexus One as examples of what the team would be targeting on the low-end. Unfortunately for some, he also singled out the original Motorola Droid (which uses an older TI OMAP3430 and just 256MB of RAM) as a device which definitely wouldn't be supported, advising Droid owners that it is "time to upgrade."
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From the beginning, Milestone users must knew that the CM9 won't get it... Small amount of RAM (with compare to other phones), maybe Milestone/Droid 2 will have a CM9
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milestone doesn't have an official cyanogen rom, there only KANG's. It was already said that nadlabak will try to boot ICS on milestone, so will have to wait and we 'll see what we will get
ok, maybe he'll boot ICS on Milestone, but it will be fully functional? Do you want newest ROM with lags and restart? Or max 30MB free RAM and nothing more? At this time, I don't see ICS on milestone for today using
no, i don't. i think that cm7 with GB is max what we can get on milestone.
and as i've already said - i don't see any features of ICS that will make my phone better.
I fully agree with you. No CM7 at all,any ROM based on Android 2.3.7 it's enough for the stone
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Maybe CM9 wouldn´t work on Milestone/Droid, but G1 runs with ICS too. It is laggy and slow but it works on phone with less RAM then Droid/Milestone.
main question is will it be usable on milestone?
g1 has unlocked bootloader and porting ics on it is a bit easier
Can anyone explain to me why the netflix app doesn't work on this ROM. Nothing ever gets displayed. AOKP on droid 4 latest build.
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Are you on one of the ICS leaks, or still have a Gingerbread "unsafe" system?
The Gingerbreak/ICS frankenROMs don't have hardware acceleration working properly (due to mismatched kernel). Thus Netflix, Chrome, Opera and anything else like that won't work.
Yeah I have gingerbread/aokp installed right now. So it sounds like I can't have a non safe system, just the ics leak installed. Is that correct? I still can't deside if I want to flash the ics leak or not. AOKP is nice and all with all its extra features, but for whatever reason, they cannot get data to work. Its pretty ridiculous they still don't have 3g/4g working after several months. Should i just go ahead and flash the ics leak?
It really isn't their fault, it is because the kernel is locked. AOKP-based off of the leak (as opposed to the Frankbuilds based on GB) work much better.
I finally jumped to the leak and atm I'm actually using the stock leak and am pretty happy with it. That being said, if you move to the leak you have to be ok with the fact that you might be off the upgrade path forever. The chance of that happening looks to be pretty small, but nobody can rule it out...
I understand its not AOKP's fault. The stuff they are pulling off is pretty advanced. Its just very frustrating from a users end trying to get data to play nice. I dont want to go to stock ICS because I really love the features AOKP has thrown in. And I dont wont to be off the upgrade path either. So will AOKP ever have solid data or are they going to have to take the stock ICS kernal and build a new AOKP ROM from that?
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I understand its not AOKP's fault. The stuff they are pulling off is pretty advanced. Its just very frustrating from a users end trying to get data to play nice. I dont want to go to stock ICS because I really love the features AOKP has thrown in. And I dont wont to be off the upgrade path either. So will AOKP ever have solid data or are they going to have to take the stock ICS kernal and build a new AOKP ROM from that?
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Bottom line is: a locked Bootloader prevents developers from providing a proper Kernel to the device. So, you don't get the HW codecs with a Gingerbread based ICS ROM, therefore no Netflix. If you install any of the leaked ICS builds, Netflix runs just fine (I can confirm)
I guess Motorola says that it's to protect us "in the name of security", but nobody seems to realize that the root exploits in themselves, already breaks that so called "security", so why not just let us have an unlocked bootloader!
Hopefully with the Google acquisition, someone can revisit that policy, and clarify to us users what it actually means. Moto probably loses customers over that policy.
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revisit that policy, and clarify to us users what it actually means. Moto probably loses customers over that policy.
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This^
You CAN have a safe system with the ICS leaks installed. You just have to use the Safestrap v 2.00 and ICS Leak build of aokp. AFAIK Netflix and HW Acc. codecs work with the new ICS leak builds!
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This^
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I would say they lose some of the die hard users, who *need* to have an unlocked boot loader. Just reading through other posts, I have seen many get so frustrated at the fact that Moto won't unlock the boot loader, that they say they won't buy moto products because of it.
I'm just thankful that people have found loopholes that allow us work arounds, but it certainly adds a lot of complexity, that wouldn't be necessary if they would just unlock the boot loader (as they said they would do).
I get Moto's stance that they need to provide support, and if people are loading custom overclocked kernels, it could certainly cause HW damage, if the chip is running at a speed out of specs, but why not have the users sign something giving up that warranty, so they can do with their devices as they wish.
I'm just saying I think they should reconsider their policy of locked boot loaders, and open up their phones to hacker enthusiasts. Heck, Jelly Bean has been announced, and most phones still don't have ICS! I would bet an unlocked boot loader would have gotten ICS into the hands of users much faster, and in this instance where there is a ICS ROM, but a GB kernel, it would actually provide for a much better user experience.
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You CAN have a safe system with the ICS leaks installed. You just have to use the Safestrap v 2.00 and ICS Leak build of aokp. AFAIK Netflix and HW Acc. codecs work with the new ICS leak builds!
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OK now I'm confused. I've been using the aokp builds for a while and they are the ics build 40 then the date. I've been flashing those for a long time but data is just as bad if not worse on some builds. Can someone explain why even though I have the ics leak, data is still screwed up? I was told data was much better on these builds.
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OK now I'm confused. I've been using the aokp builds for a while and they are the ics build 40 then the date. I've been flashing those for a long time but data is just as bad if not worse on some builds. Can someone explain why even though I have the ics leak, data is still screwed up? I was told data was much better on these builds.
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Nevrmind figured it out
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I was reading how Jelly bean was released, how long ago im not sure.
I know the Bionic has a boot loader, and i believe the only way that ICS and ICS roms are only available on the device through a leak.
How hard would it be to put this on the Bionic (since the source was released).?
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I was reading how Jelly bean was released, how long ago im not sure.
I know the Bionic has a boot loader, and i believe the only way that ICS and ICS roms are only available on the device through a leak.
How hard would it be to put this on the Bionic (since the source was released).?
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There's a dev, known as Hashcode0f who along with a few others is working on a kernel which can bypass the bootloader. Once he gets it working (primarily on the Droid 3), he's going to put it on the Bionic and other newer Droid phones, JB will soon follow. It'll probably be a few weeks at the earliest before we see anything for the Bionic though.
Has anyone figured a way to get flash to run on hero cdma armv6 running custom ics rom?
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Has anyone figured a way to get flash to run on hero cdma armv6 running custom ics rom?
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No and it's not likely. Flash is proprietary and closed source. They never released an armv6 variant. The only hope would be if lightspark of gnash came to android. However performance would be below par. There is the "flash-lite" that htc used in sense roms but it's tight to closely with the sense framework.
I agree. We'll never see flash work properly on this bad boy.