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I know this has been asked 4082340238923 times probably, but nobody has asked this question exactly the way I want to, nor has anybody really given a technical answer to this isn't possible, which I'd find hard to believe anyway. Why can't MMS messages be sent without the data plan?? Is there some way to route MMS messaging through the same manor that SMS messages are received?
Nearly every other phone I've used didn't require a data plan to send them. I think it is ridiculous, especially when it comes down to dealing with two different technologies/protocols.
With people like Cyanogen, JAC, Drizzy, Stericson, Twisted, Ccyrowski, Barak, and androidspin, development of moded roms has greatly progressed. I'm shocked that this hasn't been brought up and that any solution, even if one that required wifi hasn't been found. I just want to know what we are dealing with here and to possibly build support for this concern in the community.
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I know this has been asked 4082340238923 times probably, but nobody has asked this question exactly the way I want to, nor has anybody really given a technical answer to this isn't possible, which I'd find hard to believe anyway. Why can't MMS messages be sent without the data plan?? Is there some way to route MMS messaging through the same manor that SMS messages are received?
Nearly every other phone I've used didn't require a data plan to send them. I think it is ridiculous, especially when it comes down to dealing with two different technologies/protocols.
With people like Cyanogen, JAC, Drizzy, Stericson, Twisted, Ccyrowski, Barak, and androidspin, development of moded roms has greatly progressed. I'm shocked that this hasn't been brought up and that any solution, even if one that required wifi hasn't been found. I just want to know what we are dealing with here and to possibly build support for this concern in the community.
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MMS is sent through APN's... find the one that sends the mms and disable the rest or talk to your service provider
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MMS is sent through APN's... find the one that sends the mms and disable the rest or talk to your service provider
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Ah, I thought APNs were strictly for the data plan. I used APNdroid, which renames all of the APNs. Oddly enough I see one called "T-Mobile US", when I delete the extra characters APNdroid added to make it invalid, not only does MMS work but so does the entire data plan and I'm sure I get charged.
Even if there was a way to enable MMS through the APN's I'd probably get charged for it still.
Also, I can't talk to T-mobile because I'm sure they'll try to stick me on a data plan if they find I don't have one anyway, so I don't see that as an option.
What I'm asking is for a modification that changes the flow of traffic through wifi at least, if not something to get MMS working like it does through other phones with only a messaging/texting plan and no data plan.
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Ah, I thought APNs were strictly for the data plan. I used APNdroid, which renames all of the APNs. Oddly enough I see one called "T-Mobile US", when I delete the extra characters APNdroid added to make it invalid, not only does MMS work but so does the entire data plan and I'm sure I get charged.
Even if there was a way to enable MMS through the APN's I'd probably get charged for it still.
Also, I can't talk to T-mobile because I'm sure they'll try to stick me on a data plan if they find I don't have one anyway, so I don't see that as an option.
What I'm asking is for a modification that changes the flow of traffic through wifi at least, if not something to get MMS working like it does through other phones with only a messaging/texting plan and no data plan.
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u cant get it through wifi unfortunately (same reason that Visual Voicemail +tmo my account app doesnt work ) because that data is sent only through tmobile's data network. You can try to edit the apn's to only allow the mms messages to go through. i too use apndroid bcz i dont have a data plan, but i dont have mms.
Search online to find out how to edit the APN for mms for tmobile, so only mms comes through.
disable 3g so mms comes only through grps/edge
also, i know the hero roms allow u to turn off mobile data (though i still use apndroid)
dont flash the new spl unless youve flashed the newest radio!!! (just a disclaimer i have to add everytime i mention anything requiring it)
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u cant get it through wifi unfortunately (same reason that Visual Voicemail +tmo my account app doesnt work ) because that data is sent only through tmobile's data network. You can try to edit the apn's to only allow the mms messages to go through. i too use apndroid bcz i dont have a data plan, but i dont have mms.
Search online to find out how to edit the APN for mms for tmobile, so only mms comes through.
disable 3g so mms comes only through grps/edge
also, i know the hero roms allow u to turn off mobile data (though i still use apndroid)
dont flash the new spl unless youve flashed the newest radio!!! (just a disclaimer i have to add everytime i mention anything requiring it)
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Well see, I haven't been able to find the correct APN setting to allow only MMS to go through. There use to be a way as mentioned by the user "dave" on this site, but T-mobile blocked it awhile ago: http://inportb.com/2008/12/29/using-a-g1-without-a-data-plan/#comment-436
So if I flashed to a Hero rom I should have support for both SMS and MMS without a data plan because Hero roms have an option to shut off the data connection?
What if I unlocked my phone and connected to an AT&T network using an AT&T APN, could I get MMS that way?
Sorry for my ignorance on any of these technicalities. I haven't seen any conclusion come to this issue, anywhere on the internet, in every android community I've been to so I want to find at least a feasible conclusion to this.
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Well see, I haven't been able to find the correct APN setting to allow only MMS to go through. There use to be a way as mentioned by the user "dave" on this site, but T-mobile blocked it awhile ago: http://inportb.com/2008/12/29/using-a-g1-without-a-data-plan/#comment-436
So if I flashed to a Hero rom I should have support for both SMS and MMS without a data plan because Hero roms have an option to shut off the data connection?
What if I unlocked my phone and connected to an AT&T network using an AT&T APN, could I get MMS that way?
Sorry for my ignorance on any of these technicalities. I haven't seen any conclusion come to this issue, anywhere on the internet, in every android community I've been to so I want to find at least a feasible conclusion to this.
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i dont know if it would work. i dont have a data plan nor mms. i dont see why i wouldnt work though. maybe someone will provide additional input
if you have tmobile, connecting to an ATT apn won't do you any good. the reason it has to be sent by tmobile is because its tmobiles data. att cannot access your MMS. The mms isnt sent through the regular internet, it is ONLY over mobile internet. there isnt anyway to find them online and have them downloaded. its like a phone call. you can't just find it online, its only on the carriers airwaves
EDIT: Try what dave said but with these settings
http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm2...ex=4&navtypeid=6&pagetypeid=7&prevPageIndex=2
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i dont know if it would work. i dont have a data plan nor mms. i dont see why i wouldnt work though. maybe someone will provide additional input
if you have tmobile, connecting to an ATT apn won't do you any good. the reason it has to be sent by tmobile is because its tmobiles data. att cannot access your MMS. The mms isnt sent through the regular internet, it is ONLY over mobile internet. there isnt anyway to find them online and have them downloaded. its like a phone call. you can't just find it online, its only on the carriers airwaves
EDIT: Try what dave said but with these settings
http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm2...ex=4&navtypeid=6&pagetypeid=7&prevPageIndex=2
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Well I tried that, and MMS worked but so did the rest of the internet. That's the problem--MMS will work but so does the internet, so I can't help think that I'm going to get charged for that. So does that mean I was connected to the mobile internet or the data plan? I'm confused with entering that data, This is what I did:
APN: wap.voicestream.com
Server: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MMS proxy: 216.155.165.050
MCC: 310
MNC: 260
Is there a way somebody could create an application to help with this?? Maybe make a driver or whatever it would be called for WiFi to be used as an APN. I don't know, something to remedy this. Please! Thanks greatly for your help already, B-man.
@cephasara
do you have the data plan?
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@cephasara
do you have the data plan?
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No I don't. And probably connecting to the data network for short intervals like I am probably isn't a good idea, since I assume data usage adds up real quickly of which I'll get charged for.
well i dont see how you would get charged since you didnt sign up for the data package,
can you tell me which rom you are using and the settings your using
thanks
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well i dont see how you would get charged since you didnt sign up for the data package,
can you tell me which rom you are using and the settings your using
thanks
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Well I thought if you didn't have a data plan then you get charged by the megabyte. Am I wrong? Is there any way I can check without having T-mobile pushing one on me if I call them since it is suppose to be required?
And my settings are as described in my second to last post, I can use the default "T-mobile US" settings too which I think only varies by the "MMS port" which is 8080.
Originally I put my dad's SIM card in my phone to setup Android and he has the data plan. We're on a family plan. Maybe coming from a SIM with the data plan caused mine to glitch up, I really don't know.
you could check your tmobile account online
are you on cupcake 1.5, cyanogens, jacxrom ?
and if you do get to check your tmobile account online and there is no change
price wise then you should be good to go
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you could check your tmobile account online
are you on cupcake 1.5, cyanogens, jacxrom ?
and if you do get to check your tmobile account online and there is no change
price wise then you should be good to go
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Oh sorry, I'm using CyanogenMod v4.0.2
Well I just checked my account information and it says nothing about a data plan yet I'm able to connect to the internet just by the mentioned settings I used. When I click under "Billing & Payments" then click "Data" I get "There is no data use for this line.", so I guess I'm getting the data plan for free..
Still I would like to know how to send pictures without the data plan because I doubt this will last forever. And for whoever else may want MMS without having a data plan.
Well after learning a little more about this I figured out that I was obviously getting the data plan for free. I think T-Mobile was upgrading to 3G in my area or who knows why I had it free for that time, but since then it has stopped working.
I am still interested to know if anybody has luck with MMS without a data plan. I haven't been able to get MMS since the data plan stopped for me. And I'm starting to believe that Android pushes MMS through that data connection, so there would be no APN setting that would allow this to work right. But that is just my own rationalizing from experience, because the APN settings I had when I had that data network worked fine, and MMS messages were sent and received. Even after leaving them the same I am in able to send and receive MMS, but that's just my two cents back by own my trial and error, so anybody with actual logic of this situation, please, go ahead and let me know any more information about this!
Hi I just got a g1 and was wondering is there a way u can have picture message without having to buy the Internet plan? Or are all andriod power phones required to have Internet plans to have picture message or mms. That would suck cause it would be like owning a Chinese cell phone. Can anyone please help me thanks.
i think it depends on the provider, tmobile has SMS/MMS service and then they have there data plan, i could be wrong about this
You just need to find out your carriers MMS settings and enter them in the phone. MMS do not use one's internet plan, they use the MMS settings and data services, then you either get charged per MMS or if you have an MMS plan, based off that.
A data plan, and the data that comes with that data plan, is totally different from MMS.
How do u get. To the mms plan?
Is there a way u can just download it put it on ur phone and then set ur country to united states or wherever ur from.Cause on my htc wing I had to download a network wizard onto my phone and just fixed my settings and after that it worked. I could reciebe and sent text with my htc wing.
I was wondering can I do that same with the g1. Thanks
if U got Tmobile : What ever textPlan U got ,u Get Mms Dont Need No Data Plan. IN THE US i dont no in other Countrys =D
g1
no thats not true at all. u need internet plan in order for the G1 to have mms. i'm in the US. is there a setting that i have to fix?
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no thats not true at all. u need internet plan in order for the G1 to have mms. i'm in the US. is there a setting that i have to fix?
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YOU DO NOT NEED A DATA PLAN TO MMS!!!!! MMS does not use your data plan settings or data! All you need to do is enter the proper MMS settings into your APN list, and then when you go to send a MMS, your G1 will automatically test each APN you have until it finds the right one, or none of them work.
Where is my apn list located?
Slightly off topic
but phone plans on the other side of the pond are ridiculous. my contract is for 600 minutes anywhere in europe per month, unlimited texts, unlimited data (and none of that being charged for receiving a call nonsense) with a free htc magic for £30 per month on an 18 month contract. you guys really do get shafted
g1
that still doesnt answer my question.
t-mobile's unlimited texting includes mms, it's on the site. as picture messaging.
ive never had just a messaging plan, but they do have sms/mms settings, and it doesnt use data for mms. in transfering my samsung blackjack 2 from att to tmo, i had first got the sms/mms settings working, then data. tmobile is very helpful in porting over unlocked phones from other carriers. very. but att and tmobile 3g is differant so that part wont work
g1
so i'm screwed?
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so i'm screwed?
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no...your phone will work on tmobile...they won't require data plan for mms.
g1
my phone does work. everything works but my mms. t mobile wants people to buy internet plan in order for the phone to work properly, so they made the phone not work with mms unless u purchase the internet plan with the phone. I dont have the internet plan with the phone. So my mms doesnt work. So i was wondering if there is a way to make my mms work. Since this site has hackers to do these things i just thought it would be possible to do this.
not sure but google tmobile samsung blackjack 2 sms/mms settings, then maybe find where to input the mms settings. if i remember right everything on the phone worked except mms and internet on the bj2 before i called tmobile and got it worked out. i specifically remember setting up mms FIRST, testing to make sure that worked, then set up the data.
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my phone does work. everything works but my mms. t mobile wants people to buy internet plan in order for the phone to work properly, so they made the phone not work with mms unless u purchase the internet plan with the phone. I dont have the internet plan with the phone. So my mms doesnt work. So i was wondering if there is a way to make my mms work. Since this site has hackers to do these things i just thought it would be possible to do this.
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If you actually read what many of have been posting, you would see that YOU DO NOT NEED A DATA PLAN TO MMS!! All you need to do is enter the correct settings... seeing that you managed to find this site somehow, I would assume you are proficient in the use of the interwebs... maybe try googling "t mobile MMS settings G1"...
But do not rant and rave anymore about T-Mobile trying to shaft you into a data plan, when that is not true at all, and as many of us have pointed out multiple times already, all it takes is for you to enter the MMS settings into your phone.
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my phone does work. everything works but my mms. t mobile wants people to buy internet plan in order for the phone to work properly, so they made the phone not work with mms unless u purchase the internet plan with the phone. I dont have the internet plan with the phone. So my mms doesnt work. So i was wondering if there is a way to make my mms work. Since this site has hackers to do these things i just thought it would be possible to do this.
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Only two pages and your already doing my head in, now open your ears, engage your brain and you might learn something!
1) get off your lazy arse.
2) read the manual for the phone.
3) find your apn settings menu (and don't ask me where, that's why god created manuals!)
4) this has fook all to do with 'hacking'
5) goto your service providers web page and find their mms settings.
6) enter those settings.
7) YOU DO NOT NEED A DATA PLAN ON T^MOBILE!
8) say 'DoH' and come back here
9) look sheepish and say sorry to all the nice people!
Hear endeth your lesson
i'm bak!
I'm bak but not to apologize. I went on tmobile website and cant find any MMS settings. Can anyone help me? please.
htc_wing23 said:
I'm bak but not to apologize. I went on tmobile website and cant find any MMS settings. Can anyone help me? please.
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We can't help you anymore than we have... we have given you advice on multiple options to find out what your MMS settings are, not to mention simple common sense. If you truly can't get it with the hand fed info we have given you, try going into a T-Mo store and having them enter the settings for you (the most common sense option of all, by the way).
This is not a problem with the phone so much as more the owner not reading carefully. I was so happy to get my hands on a T-Mobile HTC HD7 that I missed a key detail. Apparently the phone does not work on FIDO 3G (I am in Toronto). It is unlocked and I can make and receive calls with no issue, but for the life of me I cannot get 3G to work. I'd even be willing to live with Edge since I'm near WiFi hotspots most of the time, but even on Edge I can't get data to flow (send/receive emails, browse web, login to facebook).
So any ideas on how to get this to work on 3G or should the owner concede defeat ?
I called FIDO tech support and they offered no help over the phone. They said contact the phone manufacturer. After checking with the great gentleman I bought the phone from, he asked did I set up the APN ? I of course said what's that? So I did an internet search and sure enough right off FIDO's Tech Support website:
APN: internet.fido.ca
Username: fido
Password: fido
Why couldn't FIDO Tech Support on the phone just suggest this? sigh....
So issue is fixed once again. Not sure if I'm getting 3G or Edge but seems to be fast enough for me eitherway as I'm mainly checking email or facebook. Maybe when tethering is available, I'll notice a difference. Hope the above info is helpful.
You won't get 3G Data with this version of the HTC HD7. I believe a 3G version for Fido/Rogers etc will be available in the future but not release date is set yet.
Hello everyone! I just took the plunge and ordered my Note from Amazon. I am a former Dell Streak/DJSteve user who has been forced to use the Samsung Infuse with MIUI for the past 6 months and I could NOT be happier about the Note.
When it arrives tomorrow, what are the steps I should take to ensure maximum compatibility with AT&T's network/speeds? What configurations settings should I modify? Lets start an AT&T optimization thread .
I anticipate rooting the device as soon as I turn it on - any suggestions for a custom ROM/Radio while you are at it?
Thank you all in advance for the tips AT&T users!
I'm another refugee from the Dell Streak 5, for which DJ Steve could do only so much. You'll like the Note much better.
I can't comment on rooting. Let me start the ball rollling on getting you going on AT&T.
I popped into my Note the SIM I was using on my Streak. Others can correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't need a special "4G SIM" since the Note is not an LTE phone.
Next relates to your plan. Your post doesn't say what it is. I'm on a metered 4G Smartphone plan. Others have grandfathered unlimited plans. In any event, you need a compatible plan. The one you had for the Streak (assuming it was on AT&T) should work.
Third is the APN. There are a ton of posts in this forum on this issue. The wap.cingular APN works fine (if you can't find configuration I can point you to a link) but it is only 3G. You want the phone APN for HSPA+. But ... you need to be properly provisioned for that APN. Just having the SIM and the plan aren't enough.
if you call customer service, when they look up your IMEI, you won't be provisioned for the phone APN, just wap.cingular. (You can tell by the SOC for your data plan but that is a whole another discussion). Call tech support, nicely explain the situation. You'll need to give them an IMEI from an AT&T 4G phone. I used the IMEI for the Infuse (easily findable through a Google search). The tech then could provision me for the phone APN (if you can't find configuration I can point you to a link). I wrote here about this experience on my blog, and the AT&T tech even responded with a comment!
Hope this helps.
GenghisKhent said:
Third is the APN. There are a ton of posts in this forum on this issue. The wap.cingular APN works fine (if you can't find configuration I can point you to a link) but it is only 3G. You want the phone APN for HSPA+. But ... you need to be properly provisioned for that APN. Just having the SIM and the plan aren't enough.
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If you're grandfathered into an unlimited plan, stick with the wap.cingular apn. The newer apn's are regulated much more closely. You'll still get HSPA+, but your speeds probably won't go much higher than about 6mbit at best, which is more than enough for most things really.
The other thing to do is disable fast dormancy. From the dialer, enter in *#*#9900#*#* and disable fast dormancy.
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
If you're grandfathered into an unlimited plan, stick with the wap.cingular apn. The newer apn's are regulated much more closely. You'll still get HSPA+, but your speeds probably won't go much higher than about 6mbit at best, which is more than enough for most things really.
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If you are metered rather than unlimited (can't tell from your post) I would think regulation would be a non-issue as you pay through the nose if you go over your limit. Also, I believe that theoretically the phone APN has a higher HSPA+ limit than the wap.cingular APN. Nevertheless, in practice my experience so far (in the Los Angeles area) is that the phone APN and the wap.cingular APN have similar speeds. So even if you are metered, you might want to skip going through the bother of provisioning to the phone APN as long as your speed is OK for your purposes on wap.cingular.
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The other thing to do is disable fast dormancy. From the dialer, enter in *#*#9900#*#* and disable fast dormancy.
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Definitely good advice. I forgot that one.
I'm on grandfathered data and have never noticed speed differences between the APN settings floating around on the net. It's not a 4G phone, so at max, any APN will give HSDPA+ (i.e. fake 4G) speeds any way you slice it.
I'm just using wap.cingular and it works well enough.
ericshmerick was the guy who got AT&T to recognize the GTN-7000 as a phone so we could have voice + data. When I called AT&T yesterday and gave them my Note's IMEI, they knew it was a phone, not a tablet. We all owe ericshmerick a lot of thanks, since now all we have to do is pick and choose among APNs, as opposed to dealing with AT&T trying to kick us off the voice network.
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ericshmerick was the guy who got AT&T to recognize the GTN-7000 as a phone so we could have voice + data. When I called AT&T yesterday and gave them my Note's IMEI, they knew it was a phone, not a tablet. We all owe ericshmerick a lot of thanks, since now all we have to do is pick and choose among APNs, as opposed to dealing with AT&T trying to kick us off the voice network.
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+1
Indeed! Major kudos to Eric ^_^
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+1
Indeed! Major kudos to Eric ^_^
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Thanks guys. It's hard to take credit for something that was broken to begin with. I just emailed and called a few people who probably wondered how I found their information (google is amazing).
But since AT&T has fixed their issues, we can all celebrate and use this awesome smartphone as it was designed.
Enjoy!
So I'm on a 2GB a month plan. Is wap.cingular ok or should I change it? If so, change it to what? And what does dormancy do?
Just got mine around lunch from UPS, threw the battery in just to
fire it up. WOW! Screen is clear as a bell & bright.
Mine came from Germany via Amazon. Sealed Note box, inside a box
with the adapter & instructions to set it to English.
It will get all setup tonight.
Namuh said:
So I'm on a 2GB a month plan. Is wap.cingular ok or should I change it? If so, change it to what? And what does dormancy do?
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On the 2GB plan, you should use the Phone apn. You'll get the best speeds that way. Just do a search for the correct settings on the Phone apn, and make sure that your account is provisioned for 4G. I believe you need to make sure that it using the "HSDPB" SOC code.
As for fast dormancy, you should disable that by entering *#*#9900#*#* in your dialer and disabling it from the menu that comes up. Basically, fast dormancy is a feature that some networks use in order to more quickly transition from an idle UMTS state all the way up to HSPA+ and back to idle again (when the connection isn't being used for a period of time). The idea behind this feature is to a) conserve battery life on your device and b) more efficiently scale and distribute available bandwidth between you and the cell tower. However, as AT&T does not use this feature on their network, having it enabled on your device can have a negative effect on your battery life in addition to making your data connection more erratic and generally slower (because there's wasted overhead being transmitted). The effect of disabling fast dormancy while on AT&T is that you'll notice the initialization time for your connection from idle to active will be slightly longer, but once active, it will stay at the highest available transmission rate (HSPA+) for longer before going back to idle instead of rapidly going between 3G, H, and H+ all the time.
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
On the 2GB plan, you should use the Phone apn. You'll get the best speeds that way. Just do a search for the correct settings on the Phone apn, and make sure that your account is provisioned for 4G. I believe you need to make sure that it using the "HSDPB" SOC code.
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I'm not positive, but I believe that SOC code is for unlimited plans. Mine is a metered plan, and my new SOC code is HSSMT7. Once my SOC code changed to that, I was able to access the phone APN. Before I could not.
I'm curious if anyone else with a metered plan can confirm the different SOC code.
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I'm not positive, but I believe that SOC code is for unlimited plans. Mine is a metered plan, and my new SOC code is HSSMT7. Once my SOC code changed to that, I was able to access the phone APN. Before I could not.
I'm curious if anyone else with a metered plan can confirm the different SOC code.
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I'm on the 2GB Smartphone plan for 4G and my code, assuming I'm looking in the right place in my bill, is HSSM. I had to view my data plan details for my prior month billing to find it. But, I'm not sure that's the correct code because nowhere do I see the acronym SOC.
In any case, I'm using the "phone" APN settings and I get 6.6 down and 1.0 up.
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I'm on the 2GB Smartphone plan for 4G and my code, assuming I'm looking in the right place in my bill, is HSSM. I had to view my data plan details for my prior month billing to find it. But, I'm not sure that's the correct code because nowhere do I see the acronym SOC...
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I view my SOC code by the following method which I learned somewhere on this incredibly useful forum:
1. Log on to my AT&T Wireless account.
2. Choose Manage Features.
3. On the next displayed page, find and choose the hyperlink to your data plan. Mine is called DataPro 2 GB for Smartphones on 4G.
4. On the resulting popup window, take a look at the URL, particularly the end, which shows the SOC code. My URL ends: olamexecute?selectedFtrSoc=HSSMT7
Admittedly this roundabout way of viewing your SOC code is sort of like driving from LA to SF by way of NY. Reportedly there is an easier way viewing your data details, but if that alternative works, I can't figure out how to use it. Perhaps one of the countless more knowledgeable people on this forum can chime in.
FWIW, the very helpful AT&T tech who helped me provision my account so I could use the phone APN told me that the actual SOC code wasn't that critical, there were several that would get me to where I wanted to go (the HSPA+ fast lane).
Hope this helps.
GenghisKhent said:
I view my SOC code by the following method which I learned somewhere on this incredibly useful forum:
1. Log on to my AT&T Wireless account.
2. Choose Manage Features.
3. On the next displayed page, find and choose the hyperlink to your data plan. Mine is called DataPro 2 GB for Smartphones on 4G.
4. On the resulting popup window, take a look at the URL, particularly the end, which shows the SOC code. My URL ends: olamexecute?selectedFtrSoc=HSSMT7
Admittedly this roundabout way of viewing your SOC code is sort of like driving from LA to SF by way of NY. Reportedly there is an easier way viewing your data details, but if that alternative works, I can't figure out how to use it. Perhaps one of the countless more knowledgeable people on this forum can chime in.
FWIW, the very helpful AT&T tech who helped me provision my account so I could use the phone APN told me that the actual SOC code wasn't that critical, there were several that would get me to where I wanted to go (the HSPA+ fast lane).
Hope this helps.
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Thanks! I'm on HSSMT7. Also, it's good to know that the SOC code isn't that critical. Thanks again.
QuarterToNine said:
Thanks! I'm on HSSMT7. Also, it's good to know that the SOC code isn't that critical. Thanks again.
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You're welcome. One caution. I'm relating what the AT&T tech told me (about the actual SOC code not being that critical). He seemed knowledgeable as well as helpful. But I can't 100% confirm. Though after his change I had no problem accessing the phone APN.
QuarterToNine said:
I'm on the 2GB Smartphone plan for 4G and my code, assuming I'm looking in the right place in my bill, is HSSM. I had to view my data plan details for my prior month billing to find it. But, I'm not sure that's the correct code because nowhere do I see the acronym SOC.
In any case, I'm using the "phone" APN settings and I get 6.6 down and 1.0 up.
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Good point. I hadn't thought of that.
Hmm thats weird my code is olamexecute?selectedFtrSoc=LTESMT2....I used my wifes APN settings from her skyrocket and I get way faster download results in speedtest from 1.92mbs to 6.0mbs, but it times out in the upload phase of the test. MMS works, text works, phone calls work and internet works. I'm gonna try the "phone" apn settings next. Her skyrocket APN name is ATT pta. We don't have 4g LTE in our area yet. I'm on the 2GB 4g LTE data plan (I had a skyrocket too and returned it) and so is she. I also have AT&T's LTE provisioned SIM card in my Note kept over from my skyrocket. Should I call tech support and have my IMEI provisioned for HSPA+?
Namuh said:
Should I call tech support and have my IMEI provisioned for HSPA+?
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Namuh, I'll let better minds than mine answer that. My advise is to hold off until you get those answers. Once you go back you may never go back, if you know what I mean.
On the phone with tech support. My account is provisioned for 4G Hspa+. under a different imei number than the note though. They did give me the option to replace the imei number that is on my account with the Notes imei number. Not sure what to do. She told me that her supervisor told her that the only apn settings she could give out is wap.cingular because its an international phone. But wap.cingular only gives 3g speeds right? I'm in an Hspa+ area. I'm off the phone with tech support. I'm going to wait on a reply in this thread or other threads to see if I should have them apply my Notes imei to my account.
So I've had the S6 since release and I've been on T-Mobile since January 2014. I've had the Xperia Z1S, Nexus 5, LG G3, iPhone 6, and now the S6, and I never had problems with my data speeds/reception till I got this phone. It drops more calls, has 5 bars but has barely usable data speeds, and it just outright sucks. I never really noticed because I'm on WiFi usually, but this time I went on vacation to Clearwater, Florida which has great reception for T-Mobile customers, and having no WiFi was seriously painful using this phone. I should also note that I have to constantly re-send messages even when I have 2-3 bars as they fail.
Does anyone else have this problem? What can I do to fix the issue?
I'm running the stock ROM with no root or anything other than using Nova Launcher Prime btw.
Thanks.
How much data did you use last month and this month?
ThePagel said:
How much data did you use last month and this month?
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Last month 1 GB (I have a 3 GB plan) and this month I used 3, but I started using data from my data stash so that shouldn't matter. It's not throttling, I would know the difference.
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How much data did you use last month and this month?
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If you think he is being throttled, remember he also has to resend messages, which sounds like a radio problem. Some devices simply have bad radios, and there is nothing that can be done besides exchanging it.
If you were on a custom rom (especially based on the international S6), this would be sorta expected because some roms don't have the correct T-Mobile APN. But rooted stock should not be having these issues.
This is what I would do. Go to your nearest T-Mobile store and explain the situation to a rep. Then ask the rep to do a network speed test on his phone, then do the same test on your S6 and show him the crappy results. Then ask him if he would be happy with the results. When he shakes his head no, ask him to exchange the phone.
majp89 said:
Last month 1 GB (I have a 3 GB plan) and this month I used 3, but I started using data from my data stash so that shouldn't matter. It's not throttling, I would know the difference.
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Oh okay, I was thinking you had the unlimited plan and went over the 10 gb mark. A few months ago Tmobile started "prioritization" which means if you used 10+gb and it's "peak hours" they kick you to the back of the line to get data. Sorry I can't help you hope you find a answer.
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If you think he is being throttled, remember he also has to resend messages, which sounds like a radio problem. Some devices simply have bad radios, and there is nothing that can be done besides exchanging it.
This is what I would do. Go to your nearest T-Mobile store and explain the situation to a rep. Then ask the rep to do a network speed test on his phone, then do the same test on your S6 and show him the crappy results. Then ask him if he would be happy with the results. When he shakes his head no, ask him to exchange the phone.
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Let's pretend he is being throttled or prioritised just for this question. Would having volte turned on change your answer? I think volte kicks on based on 4g reception not data speeds.
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Let's pretend he is being throttled or prioritised just for this question. Would having volte turned on change your answer? I think volte kicks on based on 4g reception not data speeds.
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If so, then every person with a T-Mobile S6 with VoLTE enabled should have crappy download speeds and problems sending messages. I don't see that being the case.
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If so, then every person with a T-Mobile S6 with VoLTE enabled should have crappy download speeds and problems sending messages. I don't see that being the case.
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Not really, it's only the major offenders in high usage areas getting hit right now but I could see somebody slipping through the cracks. Obviously this isn't the case for the op because he doesn't have unlimited.
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If you think he is being throttled, remember he also has to resend messages, which sounds like a radio problem. Some devices simply have bad radios, and there is nothing that can be done besides exchanging it.
If you were on a custom rom (especially based on the international S6), this would be sorta expected because some roms don't have the correct T-Mobile APN. But rooted stock should not be having these issues.
This is what I would do. Go to your nearest T-Mobile store and explain the situation to a rep. Then ask the rep to do a network speed test on his phone, then do the same test on your S6 and show him the crappy results. Then ask him if he would be happy with the results. When he shakes his head no, ask him to exchange the phone.
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I will try that.
It sucks there is no way to reset the APN or radio anymore.
majp89 said:
I will try that.
It sucks there is no way to reset the APN or radio anymore.
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Not sure about the radio but you can reset the apn, you might need to create a new apn before the option is avaliable. I have the default apn and a ipv4 apn, if I click on more in the apn selection window I have a reset option.
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If you think he is being throttled, remember he also has to resend messages, which sounds like a radio problem. Some devices simply have bad radios, and there is nothing that can be done besides exchanging it.
If you were on a custom rom (especially based on the international S6), this would be sorta expected because some roms don't have the correct T-Mobile APN. But rooted stock should not be having these issues.
This is what I would do. Go to your nearest T-Mobile store and explain the situation to a rep. Then ask the rep to do a network speed test on his phone, then do the same test on your S6 and show him the crappy results. Then ask him if he would be happy with the results. When he shakes his head no, ask him to exchange the phone.
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Not sure about the radio but you can reset the apn, you might need to create a new apn before the option is avaliable. I have the default apn and a ipv4 apn, if I click on more in the apn selection window I have a reset option.
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Do you know what the settings are so I can create one manually?
I just did a speedtest to a server I use in Pittsburgh constantly. 483ms 2.95mbps down and 0.41mpbs up. Something is definitely up with my phone.
majp89 said:
Do you know what the settings are so I can create one manually?
I just did a speedtest to a server I use in Pittsburgh constantly. 483ms 2.95mbps down and 0.41mpbs up. Something is definitely up with my phone.
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Name: T-Mobile US LTE
APN: fast.t-mobile.com
Proxy: Not set
Port: Not set
Username: Not set
Password: Not set
Server: Not set
MMSC:http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MMS proxy: Not set
MMS port: Not set
MCC: 310
MNC: 260
Authentication type: Not set
APN type: default,supl,mms,hipri,dun
APN protocol: IPv4/IPv6
APN roaming protocol: IPv4
APN enable/disable: APN enabled
Bearer: Unspecified
MVNO type: None
MVNO value: Not set
If you can't edit/add APN, then probably your only choice is swapping the phone. Good luck!
majp89 said:
Do you know what the settings are so I can create one manually?
I just did a speedtest to a server I use in Pittsburgh constantly. 483ms 2.95mbps down and 0.41mpbs up. Something is definitely up with my phone.
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Name = whatever you want
Apn = fast.t-mobile.com
MMSC = http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MCC = 310
MNC = 260
Apn type = default,supl,mms
Apn protocol = should probably be ipv4/ipv6 but you can play with it without anything negative happening.
I just got 24 Mbps down, 21 Mbps up and 36 ms ping on 4/5 bars of LTE.
Yeah, something is definitely not right with your phone.
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I just got 24 Mbps down, 21 Mbps up and 36 ms ping on 4/5 bars of LTE.
Yeah, something is definitely not right with your phone.
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I did the settings you gave me and now it seems to be stuck on 4G. I'm going to go outside and see if it'll get LTE back, I have great coverage where I work so. It seems like I have 4 bars instead of 2 though since I did that, so we'll see.
majp89 said:
I did the settings you gave me and now it seems to be stuck on 4G. I'm going to go outside and see if it'll get LTE back, I have great coverage where I work so. It seems like I have 4 bars instead of 2 though since I did that, so we'll see.
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Sometimes after creating a apn you need to reselect lte/wcdma/gsm under network mode.
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Should probably note that dun is no longer needed in the apn and hipri probably won't help data speed in fact it might hurt speeds depending on how tmobile handles it.
4-5 bars ,yeah something isn't right
kill2010 said:
4-5 bars ,yeah something isn't right
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I have the same isssues as the op, except i can prove theres a problem with it. I have the lg G4 and the tmobile s6 and i get better speeds on my G4 than my s6.
First two are the lg and the second two are the GS6.
same problem here, on original s6 and replacement s6 :-/
I'm not sure if it's because the 5.1.1 update is rolling out or not but today my service is HORRIBLE. Everywhere I usually get full bars full 4G LTE...I'm getting either EDGE or no service at all. Rebooting, toggling airplane mode, etc... no fix for me. Any one else?