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[Q] Even lighter rom for X8?

Hey guys i just wanna know if a custom rom for our X8 can go lighter than 80Mbs..
Example.. Froyobread is around 91Mbs.. GingerDX also.. but X10i roms can go til 72Mbs.. i just wanna know if its possible with our X8

I think it's possible but no one has built one yet..

I had 111mb free ram with stable 2.2 rom by lizypen
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I am just curious.. why there are so many asking for ROMS with more free RAM? Why do you want to have always lots of free RAM?
You should be worried about how to better use your RAM than be worried about not using it.
It is really strange but I never saw something like this when people are always askin for more free RAM just to never use it.

Nothing beats Stock Rom .. however one can use task killers app to free up some ram though..

We need free ram for smoothness, anyway,i can.t. ask for more,the newer version of rom,the less ram we will have.
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dotsen9 said:
We need free ram for smoothness, anyway,i can.t. ask for more,the newer version of rom,the less ram we will have.
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That is not necessary true. Less free RAM not always implies slugginesh. android is based on Linux, and Linux have a RAM administration model wich tries to always use the free RAM. Per example if you load all your aplications ans system and you have 100MB RAM free then android will try to use that memory for fetching app data, increase storage cache, etc. All this to do a smart usage of the available resources... think a little, why do you want to have extra RAM just to leave it unused?
If an application needs more RAM then android will free the necessary ammount of RAM, unloading fetch and cache data and preloaded apps.

Well it's true,but why devs has created supercharger script or let's take the juwe's script.This got to be a reason for that.
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er guys.. i'm asking about the size of the ROM itself.. there's nothing about RAM here...

Well, it's easy to make a smaller ROM. Most ROMs nowadays include several extra apps (Google Apps, Keyboard, Calculator, etc...) for many user.
Just delete all Google Apps (Maps, street view, ...) and other unused apps, you will have a lighter one.

i've deleted many unused apps from the rom.. i managed to lower it to 85mbs.. x8 doesn't have much in terms of internal mem.. but i gues thats what app2sd is for.. is it recommended to store my apps in sd card instead?

Yes,i do that too.
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I got 67mb with the miniCM7 after delete a load of stuff ill never use
super.sense on x8

does SWAP help making games less lag?

soi curreltny made a 256 mb swap file and using v6 supercharger and everything but i didn'treally notice a difference in game performance , i can open like 5 apps but games nbot really?is it normal?

The smoothness of games depends also on the power of the cpu and gpu, which isn't the ace's strenght.
Swap helps for multitasking and keeping apps in memory longer (which reduces app loading time) but it won't make games run better or faster.

I guess little bit it help in performance of game as its usefull in load game data faster !
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If your sd card is class 6 or lower, it can even slow down your games

After installing some heavy games, there's really no gaming difference. Only multi tasking has drastically improved.
I even tried out JB this afternoon using this same method and it still didn't make a gaming difference. The multi tasking is awesome though so I have no complaints.

How hard on a SD card is this?
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alex_is_the_1 said:
How hard on a SD card is this?
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I bought an extra one just for swap. Bought a 4GB class 4. Not risking my 8GB. It's hard on a SD with INT2EXT+ also installed. I don't know how long it'll last but once you got swap, you'll never go back.
I can play Tank Hero, switch to facebook on Opera Mini while answering to chats on WhatsApp and IMO instant messenger. Without having my game interrupted. AND run a bunch of widgets that would slow down my phone. Multi-tasking is incredible.
And the best part is, since I'm using a swap file and not partition, I can shrink or increase the swap size at will

SuperAce609 said:
I bought an extra one just for swap. Bought a 4GB class 4. Not risking my 8GB. It's hard on a SD with INT2EXT+ also installed. I don't know how long it'll last but once you got swap, you'll never go back.
I can play Tank Hero, switch to facebook on Opera Mini while answering to chats on WhatsApp and IMO instant messenger. Without having my game interrupted. AND run a bunch of widgets that would slow down my phone. Multi-tasking is incredible.
And the best part is, since I'm using a swap file and not partition, I can shrink or increase the swap size at will
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So I should try it? I have an.extra SD to use for whatever. Its 4 g but has all my stuff on it.
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alex_is_the_1 said:
So I should try it? I have an.extra SD to use for whatever. Its 4 g but has all my stuff on it.
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Yeah dude. Try it out. Just make a backup before you do.

Swap is pretty useless on mobile
And you get a dead SD card with it too, like those buy one get one free in shops
"What it lies in our power to do, it lies in our power not to do" -Aristotle

Prawesome said:
Swap is pretty useless on mobile
And you get a dead SD card with it too, like those buy one get one free in shops
"What it lies in our power to do, it lies in our power not to do" -Aristotle
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Don't generalize. It's useless to you. I bet you haven't even used it before.

[Q] Love hardcore Gaming but internal memory acts as an Obstacle !!!

Is there any way to increase Internal memory Of our Cell Phone ......... M having so many gameloft and rockstar games collections ....... Juz wanna play those games !! Is there any way to increase the Internal memory ???? Or swap it with external memory ( juz like in case of galaxy s3 or Note 2 ) !! .........

If ur using a note. Currently u can play all the gameloft and rockstar games with ur 1 gb ram. Maybe in near future u will run out of space. But for now everything works.
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qazibasit said:
If ur using a note. Currently u can play all the gameloft and rockstar games with ur 1 gb ram. Maybe in near future u will run out of space. But for now everything works.
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I guess he means INTERNAL STORAGE not RAM...
ANG.MAHAL.NG.NOTE.KO

There's an app called Android Assistant that will let you move files to your external sd card if it supports it. Give it a go.

Search for GL to SD in play store works flawlessly needs root though
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Oh sorry my bad. I took it as a ram as i was preoccupied by some queries about ppl saying that 1gb ram is not enough for gaming.
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Swap file possible?

I used roehsoft ram expander on my old wildfire buzz to create a swap file on my sd card to increase the ram memory and it worked pretty well.
Is it possible to use this with the same mini? I ran a test using an app from play store, screen shot below. It may not be accurate. It says the kernel isn't compatible.
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The reason for this may be because willy had a custom kernel and our device hasn't got a custom kernel, I came from wildfire aswell.
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Well maybe you're right although I tried to run ram expander and it says error no sd card. I set the correct location and it refuses to detect it.
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Do you realy need more ram?? 1gb is not enough?
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While the system + running apps is using around 400 - 600 mb sometimes more, I don't want to have to clean up every time I watch a high quality video via my tv or play a heavy game. Some games optimally uses about 500mb, etc. No 1gb isn't enough xd.
Yes I can use su boost via console and it isn't hard, but if I could have more ram wouldn't that be optimal? Who doesn't want more? Why not just stick with a old handset if 1gb is all you'll ever need. I bet a year from now you'll want more when 1gb is relatively small
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Yes you are right.
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So I guess the question is, what would need to be modified in the kernel to allow creation of the swap file in the SD? Things like this is making me interested in learning android development
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Have you look this all ready: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2087497

iKlutz said:
While the system + running apps is using around 400 - 600 mb sometimes more, I don't want to have to clean up every time I watch a high quality video via my tv or play a heavy game. Some games optimally uses about 500mb, etc. No 1gb isn't enough xd.
Yes I can use su boost via console and it isn't hard, but if I could have more ram wouldn't that be optimal? Who doesn't want more? Why not just stick with a old handset if 1gb is all you'll ever need. I bet a year from now you'll want more when 1gb is relatively small
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Then maybe you should've gone with Note II or a new PC. S3 Mini is not for gaming.

Don't like giant phones :-[
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Swap file setup

Can someone please help me setup the swap file on my phone? Thanks in advance!

What app are you using for the swap file? Ram manager, ram expander, etc etc.
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what would you recommend?

an0maly13 said:
what would you recommend?
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I use ram manager pro
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There has been a recent discussion about swap files and the virtues of Ram Manager v. Roehsoft Ram Expander over in the AOIP ROM thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2284587&page=149
(the discussion begins earlier in the thread but this page sums it up nicely)
I tried both and found that Ram Expander seemed to help noticeably with multitasking, but it costs about $10.
Also keep in mind that a swap on your internal storage is probably a bad idea (since the flash memory will wear out) but if you put it on a fast (class 10) external SD card with wear-leveling then you should be all set. You'll need to suspend the swap file when you mount your phone's storage via USB, but Ram Expander has a quick option for that.