Hi.
I am looking at purchasing my first HTC phone. My first thought is who to go with. As I am looking through the forums people generally don't seem to happy with what orange have done with the tytn 2. However vodafone customers seem quite happy with the v1615, apparently vodafone have not messed with the phone too much and it still remains close to the HTC release.
Do either vodafone or orange change the main screen with the options for weather etc.
If anyone has any further experience with this, It would be great to hear from you.
Thanks
Marc
I have the V1615, which is only lightly branded. The HTC Home plugin (with the weather etc) is disabled when you first get the phone, but can be easily re-enabled in the Today screen settings. Similarly you can swap the vodafone message and calendar icons for proper WM6 icons in the same settings page. It comes with a nasty Vodafone theme installed, but again you can swap that for something more standard.
The only other customisations I found were the dialling screen, and comms manager, which have cosmetic changes to fit with the Vodafone theme but are functionally identical to the HTC versions. It's also missing a couple of apps - namely Windows Live, Messenger, and Worldcard Mobile.
It's perfectly livable with, certainly compared to what I've seen of the Orange version... having said that, I did debrand mine in the end and switch to the stock HTC rom.
PS - from what I've read here and elsewhere the V1615 is actually sim unlocked, so open to any network, but I've not actually tried any other sim in mine.
The orange customisation is appalling... I flashed the phone with the shipped HTC generic ROM as soon as I got it home. Keep in mind that to do this you have to sim unlock the phone (currently no free solution, £20 or more depending on where you do it)
Also, the orange do not provide the TomTom taster than comes in the generic package.
HOWEVER... I have not seen the Voda TYTN II, but I say with certainty that the Orange TYTN (Hermes) looked much better than the Voda TYTN (Hermes).
Can anyone comment on the differences between how the Kaiser handsets differ visually?
EDIT: I just checked, the two variants look almost exactly the same
Just to jump in here too, I'm looking at getting the TyTN II on either Vodafone or T-Mobile, but can't decide which one to get
Just to add, the Voda V1615 did come with the TomTom taster on disk, along with Sprite backup etc - the same CD package as the HTC, afaik.
I flashed the phone with the shipped HTC generic ROM as soon as I got it home. Keep in mind that to do this you have to sim unlock the phone (currently no free solution, £20 or more depending on where you do it)
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If this is true (and I've no reason to doubt it) then the Vodafone is definitely SIM unlocked. All I had to do with mine is use the free CID utility available here (which just "unlocks" the firmware itself) and then run the usual Rom Update Utility to flash it with the generic HTC version. Total cost = £0.00.
If this is true (and I've no reason to doubt it)
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There are loads of threads with noobs who've flashed and then said AAAAHHHHHHHH WTF ha ha ha ha
I'm not exactly sure why the sim lock kicks in... legally I don't think it should because I have an orange SIM in an orange phone - I've just flashed it with a non-orange OS build.
I read in another thread that maybe the handset detects that you've got a radio stack of a non-orange build and prompts for SIM unlock code...
My UK v1615 is also unlocked. How cool is that?
I rather like the phone so far and visualy it's a very pretty phone with the brushed metal around the screen and the black glossy back. Very nice indeed.
Havent tried to debrand the ROM yet as i've found no reason to.
I have the V1615 from Vodafone and can confirm it is not sim locked none of the phonesi have ever had form Vodafone including my old TYTn were ever locked.
V1615 seems quite normal and has a very low amount of customisation, less than on most Vodafone phones.
Boinng said:
If this is true (and I've no reason to doubt it) then the Vodafone is definitely SIM unlocked. All I had to do with mine is use the free CID utility available here (which just "unlocks" the firmware itself) and then run the usual Rom Update Utility to flash it with the generic HTC version. Total cost = £0.00.
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What happens is, if you flash a new radio rom (that is not an orange rom) to an orange TYTN 2 then the phone complains about the sim card not being accepted.
The only current way around this is to pay £20+ (there is a member on here that will provide you with an unlock code) and unlock the phone.
Then you can carry on using the phone with none orange radio roms.
What people are currently doing (and sucessfully with out paying £20+ to unlock the phone) is flashing HardSPL and then flashing just the OS rom to their orange phones
Putting aside the Orange variants problem with simlock (which can be solved relatively cheaply) I would have said the argument is which carrier provides you the best deal, not just on the phone but the airtime package, network coverage etc.
At the end of the day, the device is the same and you can flash any of the ROMs found here and customise your shiny device any way you want
To be clear on the Orange simlock issue - this only occurs if you flash a different radio rom, flashing an OS only rom has no issues at all. Currently there is no need to use a different radio rom with the cooked rom's available here.
Here is v0.1 of the Wings S730 Sim unlocker.
Steps:
- connect your phone and make sure activesync icon is green
- run the file Simunlocker.bat
- after short time notepad will open and show the unlockcode
- insert a "strange" SIM and enter the unlockcode when prompted
I'm not sure if it works, but it's worth a try. It cannot harm your phone in any way.
I have an original HTC S730... do I have simlock then?
Is there any S730 with simlock? I thought there isnt
A.Bagatov said:
Is there any S730 with simlock? I thought there isnt
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Maybe not yet.
ok
thanks anyways for the great tool and effort
well, in denmark they are locked, but don't have one my self so i can't try it
Lennart
This software works with Tmobile Wing ?
http://www.mobilissimo.ro/img/mobilissimo/Image/T-Mobile/Wing/T-mobile-wing.jpg
If not, can anybody give me an advice (i can pay for the unlock code, but if is free then better)
sunco said:
This software works with Tmobile Wing ?
http://www.mobilissimo.ro/img/mobilissimo/Image/T-Mobile/Wing/T-mobile-wing.jpg
If not, can anybody give me an advice (i can pay for the unlock code, but if is free then better)
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No, your T-Mobile Wing (Atlas) is another model.
Drop me a PM and I make you a reasonable offer to SIM unlock your phone.
Too bad, no unlock Jocky . I get an unlockcode from your app, but it doesn't work.
Bagatov; Every HTC (even the newest/first ones) shipped to providers that request simlock (most do, but probably no simlock when buying from 3th party with subscription extention i.e. The Phone House).
Jocky; If you need any beta-testing (I have a whole range of HTC products here (TyTN, S710, S730, Touch, Touch Dual, TyTN II). Also direct contact with HTC) gimme a PM.
Hmm not working here, simlocked S730 from Holland (KPN). Anyone knows what i can do ?
i can get a Wings for sure contact me for experiments
If is possible to unlock HTC S730 from Telenor Mobil network
When I put my sim card in to mobile,unlock code is required.Please advise if it is possible to get this number and how?
I try to use Simunlock-Wings-V0.1 and notepad opens with following
"975
UN_Lock_code=120812"
After all I am not sure weather I have to type 975 first ?When I type the number 120812 the unlocked code is asked again .Have you got any suggestions what to do?
Thank you in advance for your answer.
Softbank X03T--no joy on unlocking
I get an error message that the phone is not unlockable...any ideas?
My Unlock code
jockyw2001 said:
Here is v0.1 of the Wings S730 Sim unlocker.
Steps:
- connect your phone and make sure activesync icon is green
- run the file Simunlocker.bat
- after short time notepad will open and show the unlockcode
- insert a "strange" SIM and enter the unlockcode when prompted
I'm not sure if it works, but it's worth a try. It cannot harm your phone in any way.
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This is what my unlock code looks like:
á›ìÿë ê *ã*á *áÔìÿ
Now what?
shufflez said:
Too bad, no unlock Jocky . I get an unlockcode from your app, but it doesn't work.
Bagatov; Every HTC (even the newest/first ones) shipped to providers that request simlock (most do, but probably no simlock when buying from 3th party with subscription extention i.e. The Phone House).
Jocky; If you need any beta-testing (I have a whole range of HTC products here (TyTN, S710, S730, Touch, Touch Dual, TyTN II). Also direct contact with HTC) gimme a PM.
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i need the T-Mobile wing unlock code for free i am from ecuador
In some weeks I plan to post a security/sim unlocker for Wings.
help me jocky please
jockyw2001 said:
In some weeks I plan to post a security/sim unlocker for Wings.
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but when cause i reallly need my t mobile wing unlocked please help me please
jockyw2001 said:
In some weeks I plan to post a security/sim unlocker for Wings.
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just make now when cause i really need to unlock my t mobile wing please hekp me
You're not really in a position to make demands Naniboro!!
He's making something for us (the community) for free(?) and not for you personally. Probably in his spare time too, so if you want something free or soon, go watch the sun come up or the rain falling.
Jocky, take it easy, some people want it all, for free and yesterday.
shufflez said:
You're not really in a position to make demands Naniboro!!
He's making something for us (the community) for free(?) and not for you personally. Probably in his spare time too, so if you want something free or soon, go watch the sun come up or the rain falling.
Jocky, take it easy, some people want it all, for free and yesterday.
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first that all i am not talking to you i am talking to jocky i know that hes makinng the hard possible so u shut up if am wrong tht i am not sorry jocky but i really need the simunlock please
jockyw2001 said:
Here is v0.1 of the Wings S730 Sim unlocker.
Steps:
- connect your phone and make sure activesync icon is green
- run the file Simunlocker.bat
- after short time notepad will open and show the unlockcode
- insert a "strange" SIM and enter the unlockcode when prompted
I'm not sure if it works, but it's worth a try. It cannot harm your phone in any way.
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This is what I got from "Notepad" after running the program:
"á›ìÿë ê *ã*á *áÔìÿ"
Additional info: I'm using a cooked ROM (OpenTouch by Ttran). Is that why this happens??? Am I supposed to use it with the original ROM???
Wat to do now ????
I have a HTC Kaiser on 3UK. (marked HTC on the front, but shows the 3 splash screen on boot).
I have been to the HTC website, and tried to download the WM6.1 upgrade for the TTYN II. I have entered the serial number of the handset, and get a message, that the upgrade is not compatable with my handset.
Any one else tried this, and got it to work with a 3Uk handset?
Try with this address: http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=13&cat=2&dl_id=475
jase_31 said:
I have a HTC Kaiser on 3UK. (marked HTC on the front, but shows the 3 splash screen on boot).
I have been to the HTC website, and tried to download the WM6.1 upgrade for the TTYN II. I have entered the serial number of the handset, and get a message, that the upgrade is not compatable with my handset.
Any one else tried this, and got it to work with a 3Uk handset?
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Almost all rom upgrades are carrier specific. The carriers pay a license fee to MS and Ms allows HTC to write them an upgrade for their phones.
Unless you Hardspl your phone and carrier unlock it from 3UK you can only use a 3UK upgrade on it. No other rom upgrades will work.
unlock problems for rogers htc touch diamond!!!
hell everybody, i need help i purchased an unlock code from a reliable site for my rogers htc touch diamond. for some reason when i attempt to type this unlock code it says sim card is missing. i read somewhere that my phone may neeed a new rom upgrade but my knowledge is limited. can anyone help me please?
i havent been able to use the phone for two months now and its getting quite agitating. thanks everybody!
Hi - I want to sim unlock my HTC Touch Diamond so i can sell it...
I called Orange UK for the code and they wanted £20!
Any cheaper reliable places? My phone has already been installed with HardSPL and has a custom Rom on it.
I assume a code won't wipe the phone of data etc?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_SIMUnlock