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Ok, so I'm thinking about finally flashing a rom because I am tired of waiting on the official update, probably using cog. However there are some things that I want to make sure I understand before I start flashing.
(1) I want to be able to go back to this official jh7 in car something arises. If I am not mistaken, I can do that through clockwork recovery by using "flash clockwork mod". If I'm correct this will create an update.zip file that can be reinstalled by going to phone recovery and reinstalling packages. If so, what all does this back up? Will it be like a stock jh7 with only default apps and settings? Do I need to un root and un-lag fix from what I did through ryanza oclf?
(2) do I need to un root and un lag fix oclf to install a rom.
(3) I'm pretty sure that it will not have my apps/settings from now, to get these I must backup using titanium, and reinstall from titanium on new rom correct?
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Nerz said:
Ok, so I'm thinking about finally flashing a rom because I am tired of waiting on the official update, probably using cog. However there are some things that I want to make sure I understand before I start flashing.
(1) I want to be able to go back to this official jh7 in car something arises. If I am not mistaken, I can do that through clockwork recovery by using "flash clockwork mod". If I'm correct this will create an update.zip file that can be reinstalled by going to phone recovery and reinstalling packages. If so, what all does this back up? Will it be like a stock jh7 with only default apps and settings? Do I need to un root and un-lag fix from what I did through ryanza oclf?
(2) do I need to un root and un lag fix oclf to install a rom.
(3) I'm pretty sure that it will not have my apps/settings from now, to get these I must backup using titanium, and reinstall from titanium on new rom correct?
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Great place to start is with Cognition Roms. Have run several and currently on 2.3b6. It's fast and the Froyo touches make it worth NOT waiting for an official update.
1. Once you are rooted, install Rom manager, and flash Clockwork Recovery. Reboot into Recovery from Rom manager. There are several options in recovery but toggle to backup and restore and then select backup. Doing this will create a nandroid backup of your phone as it exists now. This file will be stored on your phone's external sd and from there I always copy or move mine to my removable sd card. If you ever want to restore reboot into clockwork recovery, toggle to backup and restore, then restore and find the file (would rename it if i were you) then restore.
Another great tool is the Odin 1 click restore. If you get your phone jacked and can't get into recovery this will take you back to stock with no root. Cog recommends flashing back to stock with Odin and then rooting again before flashing another rom so it would be good to learn this method anyway.
2. Can't flash a new rom without being rooted. I would uninstall the lag fix also. There is a lagfix built into the current Cog rom called Voodoo.
3. Backup up apps with Tit backup but when you restore, restore the app only and not the data. I backup my text messages and call log with sms backup which works pretty well and restores easily.
From your current state. Download the latest cog rom 2.3b6 from your phone's browser and rom manager will pick up the download. Go to rom manager when it's downloaded, click download rom, find the zip file, wipe date, wipe cache and watch the magic.
The cognition wiki explains the steps as well.
The water's warm so jump on in.
Roof King said:
3. Backup up apps with Tit backup but when you restore, restore the app only and not the data. I backup my text messages and call log with sms backup which works pretty well and restores easily.
From your current state. Download the latest cog rom 2.3b6 from your phone's browser and rom manager will pick up the download. Go to rom manager when it's downloaded, click download rom, find the zip file, wipe date, wipe cache and watch the magic.
The cognition wiki explains the steps as well.
The water's warm so jump on in.
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Thanks for your help, I'm anxious now. If I want to restore a game amr its save games don't I have to restore data too? And on the wipe data and write cache, by that you mean from clockwork recovery? Thanx again for your help
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I've read it many times in the Cognition forum that restoring data with apps can give you problems. I have done it in the past with no difficulties on some apps and had issues with others. You can try and see what happens. My kids always get upset when I flash a new rom because they have to start Angry Birds from the beginning again. I'm not an expert by any means but you might want to search the cognition thread and get some second opinions.
You can flash a new rom from rom manager and since you are at stock with root is probably the easiest. Go to rom manager, install rom from sd card, you will then be taken to your sd file directory, go to download, then the cog file you want to flash. You will get a prompt to backup existing rom which you can do if you haven't already done your nandroid backup but if you have a backup already then you can leave unchecked. You will also get a prompt to wipe date and cache which you want to do. Rom manager will take it from there. Phone will go into recovery and you will see on the screen what is happening as the file is downloaded and everything currently on the phone is wiped and will reboot.
Note on Tit backup - I would copy your backup file to your external sd. My files, long press tibu, copy, go to external sd, paste. Little extra protection and only restore apps and not system stuff. Apps are always a certain color in tibu.
Ok, so when I try a remove oclf it gives me an error dating I have 312 mb free on rfs, but 662 mb used on ext2, must free up some space.
Do I delete some stuff on /data/data to free up some space?
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Not sure on that one. I had oclf installed once and was able to uninstall pretty easy in Ryan's program. It might not matter if you are wiping data but DG has posted several times about disabling lagfixes. You can always give it a shot and then restore your backup if you have issues.
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I successfully installed cognition and like to say thank you for your help and thanks to thanks to great developers and helpful ppl of this great community.
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I successfully installed cognition and like to say thank you for your help and thanks to thanks to great developers and helpful ppl of this great community.
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No prob! Welcome to the club
when i go into recovery mode, and select backup / restore, should i be selecting backup "data" or backup "all"? what is the difference?
I believe backup data will just backup your user apps and basic data on sd. Backup all baghdad up system apps and data as well. Significance is that you would not want to restore all if you were not running the same rom
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I believe backup data will just backup your user apps and basic data on sd. Backup all baghdad up system apps and data as well. Significance is that you would not want to restore all if you were not running the same rom
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So if i would like to restore my phone to the state it is in now, would i be doing a backup "Data" or backup "all"?
when i go into recovery -->backup/restore --> backup, it says backup and restore data is recommended, and that backup and restore all was "use at own risk" or something along that line.
If you are looking to restore your current state on rom "x" down the line, our if you are playing with themes and something goes wrong you would restore all. To be honest I am not sure why you would ever restore just data, that is why I use titanium backup.
You would not want to restore a backup from rom x onto rom y
I only do nandroid backups if I am planning on playing with themes
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If you are looking to restore your current state on rom "x" down the line, our if you are playing with themes and something goes wrong you would restore all. To be honest I am not sure why you would ever restore just data, that is why I use titanium backup.
You would not want to restore a backup from rom x onto rom y
I only do nandroid backups if I am planning on playing with themes
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hmm. so I shouldnt be using nandroid backup/restore to get back to where i originally was if i was testing out a different rom?
I think you have me backwards
If you are running phoenix rom, but wanted to try paragon, you could do a nandroid backup of phoenix so that your set up on that rom is saved. Try paragon, but maybe it uss not for you, so you go back to phoenix. now you can restore your nandroid after you reflashed phoenix to get your settings and apps back. You can not restore the phoenix backup while on paragon. Well actually you could but it will likely cause issues
Now if you wanted to play with themes and you try one out and tower phone won't boot. You can go back to recovery and restore to get rid of the theme
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I think you have me backwards
If you are running phoenix rom, but wanted to try paragon, you could do a nandroid backup of phoenix so that your set up on that rom is saved. Try paragon, but maybe it uss not for you, so you go back to phoenix. now you can restore your nandroid after you reflashed phoenix to get your settings and apps back. You can not restore the phoenix backup while on paragon. Well actually you could but it will likely cause issues
Now if you wanted to play with themes and you try one out and tower phone won't boot. You can go back to recovery and restore to get rid of the theme
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So that means i should always "reflash" back to phoenix rom before restoring my backup onto phoenix?
in this case, would i be using the "restore/backup data" or the "restore/backup all" from the recovery menu? like i said earlier, there is a recommendation in the menu to use backup/restore data and a warning with backup/restore all.
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So that means i should always "reflash" back to phoenix rom before restoring my backup onto phoenix?
in this case, would i be using the "restore/backup data" or the "restore/backup all" from the recovery menu? like i said earlier, there is a recommendation in the menu to use backup/restore data and a warning with backup/restore all.
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Yes you would reflash phoenix
Backup all, I believe the warning is to prevent you from restoring all from one rom to another.
Ok, I have a backup from stock 2.1. I am running paragon which is 2.2.1. If I try to restore my stock backup I will likely get stock in a boot loop and will have to use odin to recover. I believe, note believe, that if I restored just data I would be ok because I would not be restoring any system information. I use titanium to back up my apps, so I do not see a use for the option
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Yes you would reflash phoenix
Backup all, I believe the warning is to prevent you from restoring all from one rom to another.
Ok, I have a backup from stock 2.1. I am running paragon which is 2.2.1. If I try to restore my stock backup I will likely get stock in a boot loop and will have to use odin to recover. I believe, note believe, that if I restored just data I would be ok because I would not be restoring any system information. I use titanium to back up my apps, so I do not see a use for the option
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I see, still a bit confused because because i have a stock backup 2.2 from "rom manager". When switching between roms before, i would restore my phone back to the rom manager stock backup through recovery menu restore option before flashing it to another rom. That seemed to work fine.
Is there a reason for this? or is the rom manager backup different from a nandroid "backup all"?
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Is there a reason for this? or is the rom manager backup different from a nandroid "backup all"?
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No they are the same, may be better if you tell me what toy want to do, I don't know how to explain this in different terms. Restoring your rom manager backup does not qualify as flashing stock if that is what you are doing
Please someone tell me how to backup using nandroid. I've tried many times using ROM Manager but still stuck on recovery 3(e). My captivate run on froyo JI6. Thanks.
max_82 said:
Please someone tell me how to backup using nandroid. I've tried many times using ROM Manager but still stuck on recovery 3(e). My captivate run on froyo JI6. Thanks.
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Get into recovery using power menu. Then you can use backup/restore to backup the rom.
How do you run a factory rom backup of everything? Without downloading some stupid app, or is there even a way. I am rooted and have clockwork mod, but I am just interested in how to do this?
Well usually we perform a nandroid backup but we can't flash cwm on the thrill yet though so the only thing I know of that we can do is flashing Cwm through Advanced and restore to the original rom/stock rom.
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so if you have clockworkmod then you can do it that way?
Hi Guys.
I haven't worked much with CWM so far and couldn't find a proper answer in the threads here.
When I do a restore from a CWM backup I've not seen an option to choose just data or apps ... so I suppose the whole system including the rom and kernel will be restored. right?
As I'm happy to have CM 10.1 running after all finally, I'd just like to restore the data (SMS, etc.) from a CWM backup. Is there a possibility to do so?
Thanks for your help.
Cheers
I don't think you can do that. I used titanium backup pro to restore only the apps+setting to do that.
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Ok, thanks. Should have thought about it before.... Sometimes fingers are faster than the brain.
Cheers
You can do an advanced restore and just restore /data but it's not recommented to do this coming from stock and restoring on CM I guess...
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You can do an advanced restore and just restore /data but it's not recommented to do this coming from stock and restoring on CM I guess...
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Why not?
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Why not?
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Stock and CM use different bases, and therefore restoring data of Stock can bring over some incompatible data/apk's and this can and most likely will cause a bootloop, from reading i think i can establish the safest way when your changing Rom's is to full wipe and 'clean' install. However when going from nightly to nightly this is not needed, and some data can be restored between same android version Rom's, for example CM10.2 is 4.3.1, data may work on slimbean 4.3.1.
Hope this clears things up for you.
I would also suggest to do a clean install without data recovery. If you want your data you can use Titanium Backup for App data. For the other personal stuff you can make a backup to your PC..
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CWM Recovery, URGENT REPLY!!
I faced this problem that my rom got stuck on boot image, so I had another custom rom zip in my sdcard, so to install that I had to format my phone, now I have that backup and I only want to restore system settings, apps, app data, my data(sms, call logs and stuff), I dont want to restore the system or anything else which will make it get stuck on boot image again, now which choices shall I choose in advanced restore to restore only these specified items?
Please reply urgently as I have to travel in a few days and I wont be able to do it over there.
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Hey all,
I'm very new to Android and have ARHD on my HTC One. I was thinking of trying out Trickdroid but I always see instructions to backup and wipe all data before I install the new ROM. I know how Nandroid backups work but if I wiped the data and installed Trickdroid, then recovered from Nandroid, wouldn't that restore the ARHD ROM as well? How would one go about backing up my phone to make sure I lose as little information as possible after the switch?
The Inquisition said:
Hey all,
I'm very new to Android and have ARHD on my HTC One. I was thinking of trying out Trickdroid but I always see instructions to backup and wipe all data before I install the new ROM. I know how Nandroid backups work but if I wiped the data and installed Trickdroid, then recovered from Nandroid, wouldn't that restore the ARHD ROM as well? How would one go about backing up my phone to make sure I lose as little information as possible after the switch?
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Do a htc backup then do full wipe in trickdroid rom then restore htc backup that's what i would do
Use TitaniumBackup in order to backup your user applications, system settings, preferences, and many other things. It requires root priviliges to work, but since you're already on ARHD then you have it. After backing up with TitaniumBackup, go to recovery, wipe, install Trickdroid, and after you boot in Trickdroid install TitaniumBackup and restore either 'missing apps with data' or 'all user apps + system data'.
So the wipe won't remove the Titanium Backup from the phone?
No. Wipe system and data is different from format sd card. But just to be safe you can copy the titaniumbackup folder to your pc after you backup and then copy it back to device if it's lost.
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So the Trickdroid file won't even flash on my device now. I tried to flash it through recovery and it says that the installation failed and then says "(bad)"
Any fix or do I need to try and download the file again?
The Inquisition said:
So the Trickdroid file won't even flash on my device now. I tried to flash it through recovery and it says that the installation failed and then says "(bad)"
Any fix or do I need to try and download the file again?
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Maybe a bad download.
Check the MD5
So, re try to download.
Yeah, I'd say it's a bad download as well. Also make sure you're using the latest version of whatever custom recovery you are using. I use TWRP 2.5.0 and it flashes ROMs with no problem.
Just downloaded another copy and it works now. Thanks for all the help guys.