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Switching to Verizon: Droid Bionic or wait?

After a falling out with AT&T, I think I'm switching to Verizon. I'm currently using the Motorola Atrix, loving it so far. Bionic seems like the brother to it in Verizon. Now, this will probably take place in the next few weeks. If I switch, should I get the Droid Bionic or wait for a newer phone? I'll be paying off contract for the phone. Hoping to hear some input from users (as well as people who know the real definition of 4G, novel concept).
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I'd go with the bionic, there will always be a better phone released a couple months after you buy, no matter what it is. Don't wait around to jump into the latest and greatest, because you'll always be waiting.
The bionic is a solid device, and most are very satisfied. I know I am. Wirefly is selling it for $150 with new contract right now, and you may even find better elsewhere.

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cbal04 said:
I'd go with the bionic, there will always be a better phone released a couple months after you buy, no matter what it is. Don't wait around to jump into the latest and greatest, because you'll always be waiting.
The bionic is a solid device, and most are very satisfied. I know I am. Wirefly is selling it for $150 with new contract right now, and you may even find better elsewhere.
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Yup. I completely agree.
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Ok, despite the fact that I bought a Bionic just yesterday, and did not wait, I think I would wait those couple of weeks to see what's up with Verizon's new handsets (Prime, Vigor, etc.), and perhaps to wait out the expected OTA update to the Bionic that people say is coming in November.
If you can't wait, the Bionic is a nice phone.

I would recommend waiting for the Prime or considering something that has an unlocked bootloader.

Underwater Mike said:
I would recommend waiting for the Prime or considering something that has an unlocked bootloader.
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Is there any word of verizon getting any phone with an unlocked boot loader? I know that some, like the thunderbolt, can be unlocked via hacks, etc... but will there be one that will come with the ability to unlock it right out of the box? If there is, I may also hold off on the bionic.

cbal04 said:
I'd go with the bionic, there will always be a better phone released a couple months after you buy, no matter what it is. Don't wait around to jump into the latest and greatest, because you'll always be waiting.
The bionic is a solid device, and most are very satisfied. I know I am. Wirefly is selling it for $150 with new contract right now, and you may even find better elsewhere.
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Unfortunately I will be footing the entire phone cost, so subsidized phones aren't a luxury for me.
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I would recommend waiting for the Prime or considering something that has an unlocked bootloader.
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Do you think the Prime will have better specs than the Bionic?
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nosit1 said:
Do you think the Prime will have better specs than the Bionic?
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The latest rumor is a 1.2 GHz dual core processor, with 32 GB of external storage, 4.65" display (though ice cream sandwich has no menu/home/back/search buttons, so the size of the phone may be about the same), slightly thinner (1 mm I think), about the same battery.
This is a rumor, of course.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/06/samsung-galaxy-nexus-full-specs-revealed-verizon-wireless-exclusive/
As far as I know, since they are development phones, all of the Nexus phones have had unlockable bootloaders, though there is no guarantee of that, either.
We should find out next Tuesday at CTIA.

I would def go with the Bionic. I first upgraded to the Samsung Charge, But then quickly returned it once the Bionic released. It was a great decision. The week that i owned the Charge i was running into all kinds of small Glitches and bugs, nothing real major but enough to get on my nerves. The only thing that the Charge had over the Bionic was the Picture quality....
So far i have yet to experience the amount of glitches with my Bionic.

Wait a month and get the Nexus Prime. I know my Bionic is going out the window for that bad boy.
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If your just buying the phone outright, I'd wait a couple weeks until the Prime comes out and pickup a Bionic on the cheap from someone who's switching. I have a feeling the used market is going to get flooded with them.

nosit1 said:
After a falling out with AT&T, I think I'm switching to Verizon. I'm currently using the Motorola Atrix, loving it so far. Bionic seems like the brother to it in Verizon. Now, this will probably take place in the next few weeks. If I switch, should I get the Droid Bionic or wait for a newer phone? I'll be paying off contract for the phone. Hoping to hear some input from users (as well as people who know the real definition of 4G, novel concept).
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If you can wait until the end of the month, strongly rumored Samsung Nexus-type phone is "due out" near the end of tthe month, better screen, faster processor, and Android 4.0 (and a Google Experience phone so no crapware.)
If you can't wait three weeks, get a Bionic in your hands to look at the screen; although if you already have one Motor qHd screen & if doesn't bother you, the Bionic appears to have the best Motorola pentile qHd display so far.
I'm happy w/ myBionic so far,but wouldn't mind 50% faster CPU and a 720p screen

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Do you think the Prime will have better specs than the Bionic?
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According to this, it will be a pretty sweet phone.

What is there, a 30 day return on phones. Think if I picked it up on contract (found a loophole), would that buy me time to a Nexus Prime?

nosit1 said:
What is there, a 30 day return on phones. Think if I picked it up on contract (found a loophole), would that buy me time to a Nexus Prime?
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I think it's only 14 days.
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That it would appear so...
Hmm. I guess I can always fork my paychecks over for the Prime when it's released.

I would wait for the Prime. Coming from a Charge the Bionic is inferior in every way other then speed. The Bionic is not a bad phone but the Prime will be a lot better.

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What is there, a 30 day return on phones. Think if I picked it up on contract (found a loophole), would that buy me time to a Nexus Prime?
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lrs421 said:
I think it's only 14 days.
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It's 14 days, plus a $35 restocking fee.

14 days for Verizon. If, like me, you order from Amazon, you have a 30-day window but then you can't reorder another phone from them for 60 days (to keep people from scamming rebates). meanwhile, unless you keep your Verizon contract active during that period, you'll be hit with an early term fee of several hundred bucks.
Personally, I'd rather buy phones unlocked and pay the higher price with the benefit of not being locked into a contract. But, none of the large carriers does it that way in the U.S.

anyone else flip phones on craigslist?

lol i do.
yesterday i needed some quick cash because of a move im doing and i was short on my energy bill...
so i put my sprint galaxy nexus on craigslist for sale/ trade.
last week i got it new in the box for 150. a deal to me for sure.
i got a bunch of crap offers but eventually someone offered me their epic 4g touch and 100 cash for the gnex.
so we met up at a sprint store and called customer care because the store cannot do active phone swaps and we both went home happy.
right away i listed the phone on craigslist, within a few hours i got a few offers, mostly junk but one was or seemed to be worth while.
a white iphone 4 8gb, with case and charger, even trade. so telling her i was interested i posted the white iphone up on craigslist also forsale/trade before i even had it. i got many offers, a few low balls (lol even 50 dollars with the excuse that its outdated and old and the new iphone will be out this month lol), then a 225.00 offer, a 200 dollar offer, you get the idea. i entertained them all, but one of the guys ended up changing their minds and made a even better offer, he retracted his 200 dollar offer and said he would trade me his mint condition epic 4g touch with case,charger and 100 cash... BINGO lol, i quickly accepted.
how could i loose, i met up with the girl at 615pm to do the swap for my epic touch for her iphone 4, after thats done i wait for the guy who comes at 7 and we call sprint all over again and do another swap, it all works out and i leave with another 100 in cash and the same phone i came in with lol.
so i was tainted with a apple phone for about 10 mins... Lol it wasn't that bad but the screen was hard to adjust to.
anyone else flip on craigs? needless to say i have my epic back up on CL for hopefully another trade or sale.
i already got my epic touch running jellybean and honestly its not too much different then my gnex minus the lte which i dont have yet and the HD screen which is noticeable to me.

Seems kind of immoral to me. It's like abusing Wal-Mart return policies to make a buck. You're using Craigslist outside of its intended use for profit. But you do what you gotta do to make the bills work: I personally would not make a habit of "flipping phones".

alpha-niner64 said:
Seems kind of immoral to me. It's like abusing Wal-Mart return policies to make a buck. You're using Craigslist outside of its intended use for profit. But you do what you gotta do to make the bills work: I personally would not make a habit of "flipping phones".
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lol immoral?
im using a public website that is made for buying,selling, and bartering.
thats exactly what im doing.
im not "abusing" or misusing anything, and its not a mega corporation where im scamming their return policies.
its a buy sell and trade website..
thats exactly what im doing.
in fact there are reality tv shows based on this same thing, that where they use outlets like craigslist, people do it with everything under the sun, from tvs, to cars.
im not ripping anyone off or telling people things that they arent.
im giving people what they want and im getting what i want.
exactly what the website is for.

When you start to talk about morality, you instantly are entering into a subjective paradigm in the philosophical/metaphysical sense. However, I do agree you're in a way taking advantage of peoples lack of knowledge on the tech you're trading. Is this immoral? Depends on how you define it. If both parties are happy and walk away from the deal feeling like their was an equitable exchange, then I personally don't think so. Ignorance is bliss I guess. Now, if you intentionally mislead the other party into believing they're getting a much better offer than they realize for your profit then yes this is, to me, immoral, but I don't think your doing this. It is the reason I believe the majority of advertisements and those working in the field are in some sense immoral, but this is getting off topic.
In short, I haven't done it and for me the amount of time and effort isn't worth the small return.

I didn't mean to imply you're ripping anyone off. I just find it interesting how one can make a buck nowadays. I stress the kind of part because I read about the iphone part and it boggles my mind how people are willing to pay so much for so little. I get that if the needs are met then it's fine. However it boggles me further how people can conclude the iphone 4 and the galaxy s2 phone is of equal value. Galaxy s2 clearly has better specs plus MIUI more than makes up for the iOS experience. I get that not everyone is gifted with our passion which is why I use the term "immoral" for someone who knowingly barters with this information in hand. But I do agree with l3lessed that if the girl is happy then that's what matters. Then I conclude that while the ends justifies the means this time, I wouldn't make a habit of this kind of business.
That said: I'm sure you can many people in the MP that has "flipped phone".

alpha-niner64 said:
I didn't mean to imply you're ripping anyone off. I just find it interesting how one can make a buck nowadays. I stress the kind of part because I read about the iphone part and it boggles my mind how people are willing to pay so much for so little. I get that if the needs are met then it's fine. However it boggles me further how people can conclude the iphone 4 and the galaxy s2 phone is of equal value. Galaxy s2 clearly has better specs plus MIUI more than makes up for the iOS experience. I get that not everyone is gifted with our passion which is why I use the term "immoral" for someone who knowingly barters with this information in hand. But I do agree with l3lessed that if the girl is happy then that's what matters. Then I conclude that while the ends justifies the means this time, I wouldn't make a habit of this kind of business.
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Ahh I see.
I was just short this month and this way its legal Lol
Everyone was happy. In fact all the deals I did were brought to me, made by the other party.
I agree the iPhone to me isn't worth much but as everyone can see they have a huge faithful following, enough so to dump more premium phones (in our eyes) in order to have one.
Locally regular iPhone 4 non s versions are still selling more than galaxy s2s.
Its mind boggling to me actually.
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I flip phones all the time. If i find a great deal then i will most definitely snatch it up. One thing I never do is low ball. I always offer them a fair price that's low enough for me to make a profit, yet sits well with conscience. Business on Craigslist is easy money if you can negotiate.
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I can't see the immorality in his actions. He's entertaining offers from others and not misrepresenting his goods. If anything, I'm impressed by the fact that youre arranging Craigslist deals in advance and juggling it all. You should get into stocks or futures or something and make real money with your talents.

It's not immoral, nothing wrong with it.
I have done that once or twice, it's how I get "new phones for free" but honestly it takes too much time/effort/driving and to me is not really worth it. I do it like once a year to upgrade my phone but that's about it. It's not a bad way to get a decent device though, just be willing to put up with all the BS that goes along with it.
I actually prefer the MP here for the most part, except for a few items that are overpriced here that I want to buy or underpriced (compared to local prices) that I want to sell.

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guthrien said:
I can't see the immorality in his actions. He's entertaining offers from others and not misrepresenting his goods. If anything, I'm impressed by the fact that youre arranging Craigslist deals in advance and juggling it all. You should get into stocks or futures or something and make real money with your talents.
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If I only knew where to begin.
I'm stuck at a dead end job for the last 8 years and live check to check.
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TeeJay3800 said:
Moved to Off-topic.
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I apologize I thought I was in the off topic section.
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Damn, that's a really good idea. Never though of that. ;p

KayxGee1 said:
I flip phones all the time. If i find a great deal then i will most definitely snatch it up. One thing I never do is low ball. I always offer them a fair price that's low enough for me to make a profit, yet sits well with conscience. Business on Craigslist is easy money if you can negotiate.
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Exactly.
Low ballers make me sick,but that's just a part of Craigslist.
Its not hard to do,but can be time consuming and irritating when you run into tire kickers and people who bs.
Throughout all the years I've used Craigslist for everything under the sun, from TVs,to fish tanks,to cars,refrigerators and probably other things I can't recall. But I've never have had one bad experience, never been robbed or put into any bad situations.
You just have to be smart and smell a bad situation before it happens.
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intheb0x said:
Exactly.
Low ballers make me sick,but that's just a part of Craigslist.
Its not hard to do,but can be time consuming and irritating when you run into tire kickers and people who bs.
Throughout all the years I've used Craigslist for everything under the sun, from TVs,to fish tanks,to cars,refrigerators and probably other things I can't recall. But I've never have had one bad experience, never been robbed or put into any bad situations.
You just have to be smart and smell a bad situation before it happens.
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I've never been robbed either. Just very nice people looking to buy and sell items.
If they want quick cash and I'm willing to buy, so be it. I take the time to relist the item and sit on it for a few days, a week, hell I've sat on an item for 3 months! It's all about time and effort. Here in NJ, there are really good deals. Business is just business.
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alpha-niner64 said:
Seems kind of immoral to me. It's like abusing Wal-Mart return policies to make a buck. You're using Craigslist outside of its intended use for profit. But you do what you gotta do to make the bills work: I personally would not make a habit of "flipping phones".
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So you feel the same about people that flip houses, cars, etc? Essentially you hate capitalism? Supply & demand, etc?

I made money on craigslist this pass week. I just sold my GS3 for $400 (which I bought new for $440 on eBAY) and with the money I bought a white EVO LTE in mint condition for $225 which I sold on Ebay for $340 ($300 after fees and ship).
I list it on XDA http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900703 but the memebers here are to cheap to even recognize a good deal.

shook187 said:
I made money on craigslist this pass week. I just sold my GS3 for $400 (which I bought new for $440 on eBAY) and with the money I bought a white EVO LTE in mint condition for $225 which I sold on Ebay for $340 ($300 after fees and ship).
I list it on XDA http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900703 but the memebers here are to cheap to even recognize a good deal.
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Very nice.
I made some additional moves on Craigs list recently which I didn't post about.
I traded my gs2 for a white 16gb 4s which in return i traded for a new in the box black evo lte.
Sad to say I'm surprised that the resale value on these phones aren't higher, because the lte is not too much different than the gs3...
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I have for years!
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I think it depends on your local community. For me craigslist is a massive headache full of flakes and people wanting msrp for 2 year old used tech.
I can't even tell you how many times I've relied to ads and been ignored.
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Theory as to why LG is constantly out of stock, and why Google made a bad decision.

I have a theory as to why the Nexus 4 is out of stock, and for such a long time. This may or may not have been mentioned before (probably has) but I just wish to discuss it. Remember, this is purely speculation.
The reason LG has only made around 400,000 handsets and starved production was due to their own flagship, the LG Optimus G. Every single thing about this phone, is IDENTICAL to the Nexus 4, besides the fact the N4 is rocking stock stock android and the aesthetics are slightly different. The N4 has an advantage among the developer community with it being able to be torn apart and tweaked and tinkered with, unlike the OG which LG is still being a little b____ about the bootloader on many of their recent phones.
The 16GB LG Optimus G is $800 here in Australia, and the 16GB Nexus 4 is $400. You do the math.
I don't know if LG's actuaries are idiots or something, but they would have known about the guaranteed success of the next Nexus device, going on the sales figures of all the other devices. LG thought that making a tiny amount of profit on every Nexus device and in turn increasing their companies reputation in the mobile business, was worse than not making ANY profit on their CRAPBOX 3000 (LG Optimus G). I can see where they are coming from, as they don't want their spectacular flagship to be left in the dust with full stock, but zero sales so basically I think they were just chucking a cry or something.
SO DON'T HATE ON GOOGLE FOR THE LACK OF NEXUS'
What you can hate Google for, is choosing LG in the first place. Yeah, they may of felt generous and were trying to support them but at the cost of their own company getting hated? Why didn't they just buy LG like they did with Motorola, and that would be the end of it? When I heard of the new Nexus Device, I celebrating because for some reason I thought they were going to choose HTC for production (who knows why). Nek minnit, they choose some struggling company that either can't or won't keep up with production.
This may of looked like a run-out-of-the-mill rant, but this was some, high-quality, researched ranting skills to pay the bills.
Discuss.

^ not sure what you meant by high quality research as I don't see any evidence, references and all I can see is pure speculations that have been floating around in this forum since the day problems with stock started.
Do share some of your research details with us to base your ideas that has some concrete evidence of what you are assuming I'd happening and I'll gladly click thanks button under your name
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^ not sure what you meant by high quality research as I don't see any evidence, references and all I can see is pure speculations that have been floating around in this forum since the day problems with stock started.
Do share some of your research details with us to base your ideas that has some concrete evidence of what you are assuming I'd happening and I'll gladly click thanks button under your name
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Yeah he did say it was purely speculation. Whatever the reason, the lack of stocks is simply annoying.
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I fail to see how you guys can always come up with such gossip.
Google has made contracts with LG and they are producing the amount Google demanded.
Whether it was Google ordering just a tiny amount of phones, or LG can't keep up with production, due to manufacturing errors or anything else, we will never know.
Also, LG is not a bad hardware manufacturer. They do have the capability to spit out hundreds of thousand devices a month, and they've proven that they can.
For your info: devices produced in October: 75k
Devices produced in December: 400k
As you can see, they can definitely keep up with the demand, it's probably just Google ordering only tiny amounts of it.
A contract breach, as in simply not delivering the amount of phones Google demanded, would have legal consequences for them, so I guess they will be thinking twice before hampering the production.
Cheers.

Lg has good hardware? Hmmmm...i don't know. Have you hold Lg L9 or L7, its a pure piece of ****. Quality zero. Maybe they build good displays and parts, but housing of every device is ****y. TVs also.
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Nuu~ said:
I fail to see how you guys can always come up with such gossip.
Google has made contracts with LG and they are producing the amount Google demanded.
Whether it was Google ordering just a tiny amount of phones, or LG can't keep up with production, due to manufacturing errors or anything else, we will never know.
Also, LG is not a bad hardware manufacturer. They do have the capability to spit out hundreds of thousand devices a month, and they've proven that they can.
For your info: devices produced in October: 75k
Devices produced in December: 400k
As you can see, they can definitely keep up with the demand, it's probably just Google ordering only tiny amounts of it.
A contract breach, as in simply not delivering the amount of phones Google demanded, would have legal consequences for them, so I guess they will be thinking twice before hampering the production.
Cheers.
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Lol, do you think "hundreds of thousands of devices a month" is anywhere near enough for a $600 phone priced at $350? Try several millions a month.
Oh and those production numbers were just speculation (albeit a logical one). No one knows the exact numbers.

Why does everyone blame LG? Is there a valid excuse for Samsung taking forever to restock the Nexus 10?
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Good point. Google is just building the hype. If they wanted to really earn money on N4 they would behave differently.
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ed10000 said:
Lol, do you think "hundreds of thousands of devices a month" is anywhere near enough for a $600 phone priced at $350? Try several millions a month.
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Yes, 400k might not be enough. But don't expect the nexus to sell like the iPhone or a Samsung galaxy. There simply is no marketing at all for the nexus. Companies like Apple and Samsung invest millions every year into marketing. Have you ever seen a nexus 4 ad other than on YouTube?
Probably not. The nexus' demographic is mostly tech enthusiasts.

I don't think LG is intentionally halting the manufacturing process, i mean they would be really stupid to do so, some of of you seem to forget that one of the biggests ways to sell is having quantity over price, if LG sells 5 million Nexus 4 that would make them a ton more money than selling 1 million Optimus G :laugh: , also it doesn't hurt that a lot more people are talking good stuff (regarding quality) about them, that could never hurt a company .
What LG did on purpose (in my opinion) was refusing to provide a 32 gb version of the phone , so if people want more storage (and LTE) they should buy the Optimus G

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Lg has good hardware? Hmmmm...i don't know. Have you hold Lg L9 or L7, its a pure piece of ****. Quality zero. Maybe they build good displays and parts, but housing of every device is ****y. TVs also.
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I had a 2012 47" LG HDTV and the housing was actually pretty nice. They used some type of real brushed metal for the housing instead plastic made to look like brushed metal like other manufacturers. I ended up returning it for a bigger TV though.
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hundreder said:
Lg has good hardware? Hmmmm...i don't know. Have you hold Lg L9 or L7, its a pure piece of ****. Quality zero. Maybe they build good displays and parts, but housing of every device is ****y. TVs also.
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I disagree. I had a g2x and it was awesome except for the software. When is the last time you had a phone with HDMI out??? G2x had it, also was the first device with dual core.
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Nuu~ said:
Yes, 400k might not be enough. But don't expect the nexus to sell like the iPhone or a Samsung galaxy. There simply is no marketing at all for the nexus. Companies like Apple and Samsung invest millions every year into marketing. Have you ever seen a nexus 4 ad other than on YouTube?
Probably not. The nexus' demographic is mostly tech enthusiasts.
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Actually I've seen nexus 4, 7 and Samsung chromebook adverts in newspapers and on advertising boards on the London underground. Haven't seen any marketing for the nexus 10 though.
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Blame Google because they are paying LG and someone really messed up in projecting how many to produce.
I mean last time it was Verizon holding it back so Google had to plan better this time.
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Nuu~ said:
Yes, 400k might not be enough. But don't expect the nexus to sell like the iPhone or a Samsung galaxy. There simply is no marketing at all for the nexus. Companies like Apple and Samsung invest millions every year into marketing. Have you ever seen a nexus 4 ad other than on YouTube?
Probably not. The nexus' demographic is mostly tech enthusiasts.
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I'm sorry but this post is complete and utter rubbish. I have seen more adverts on telly for nexus 4 and nexus 7 than I have Samsung devices in the last month, so you cannot claim that there is no marketing at all. Get your facts straight.
Add to that the nexus adverts had me thinking it was an advert for an iPad, and Google are pretty bloody clever with their advertising.

biffsmash said:
I'm sorry but this post is complete and utter rubbish. I have seen more adverts on telly for nexus 4 and nexus 7 than I have Samsung devices in the last month, so you cannot claim that there is no marketing at all. Get your facts straight.
Add to that the nexus adverts had me thinking it was an advert for an iPad, and Google are pretty bloody clever with their advertising.
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I can only speak for my country, but advertising for the nexus 4 is nonexistent here.
Hell, the only nexus ad I've ever seen was for the nexus s a few years ago. On the other hand, there are Samsung and Apple ads multiple times a day.
And I know that this is the case for a lot of countries.

biffsmash said:
I'm sorry but this post is complete and utter rubbish. I have seen more adverts on telly for nexus 4 and nexus 7 than I have Samsung devices in the last month, so you cannot claim that there is no marketing at all. Get your facts straight.
Add to that the nexus adverts had me thinking it was an advert for an iPad, and Google are pretty bloody clever with their advertising.
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Which country?

rogerski1 said:
I disagree. I had a g2x and it was awesome except for the software. When is the last time you had a phone with HDMI out??? G2x had it, also was the first device with dual core.
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Yeah, but the O2X also doesn't have enough RAM, the proportions are a bit off and the spontaneous shut downs were never fully fixed. I have owned one for the past year and a half and wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

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"telly" suggest the UK or somewhere there which makes sense as someone else says the "Tube" and such which is London's subway .
In the USA however, there is 0 ads on TV for the Nexus 4, there are some for the Nexus 7 but NEVER has there been one for the Nexus 4 or 10. Not even in the newspaper other than reviews and such mentioning it. Maybe that's why they don't however as they've already got tons of (positive) press here. In general, you advertise to get your name out there and build brand, once you are out there and everyone knows your name you tend to save those ad dollars.

Guys, this is a $350 phone. UNLOCKED!

I don't start many opinion threads and I've been on this site a very long time.
However, I've been seeing lot of threads come up for the NEXUS 5, regarding it's QC, and maybe questionable components. So I'll chime in and offer some of my views, for what they're worth and you can go ahead do the same.
In this day and age, a $350 smartphone (Unlocked and with no contract) is a bargain, ESPECIALLY one as capable of the Nexus 5. You guys CANNOT forget that.
This is a device that can easily handle some of the devices costing twice as much. it's a powerhouse with very up to date specs for a price that is very low.
You're getting the latest in processing power as well as graphics. You're getting an excellent screen that's large, VERY bright, very sharp with accurate color reproduction. Yes your contrast might not be as ridiculous as the OLED screens but they both have ups and downs. but come on, you forget all the negatives when you think it's a $350 device. I do atleast.
Me personally, battery life is good for me, but if it's not for you, well again, it's good, not excellent. But if you got this battery life with a $700 device, you'd be upset but at $350...........how upsent can you possible be? not to mention it's one of the very few wireless charging devices with VERY fast charge times.
Camera is Good, not a ground breaker but trust me....it's much better than other sub $350 retail phones. Compared to them, it's a gold mine of a camera.
Not to mention the software...it has the latest and during it's cycle will always be the first to have the latest.
wait....did I mention it's a $350 phone? Think about alll the feature it has at $350....... then see if you complain about the little "button rattle" you have.... which you only discovered because someone else did...... come on now..
It's one helluva a device, and if you take price into account....GOD DAMN, It's a bargain of the decade (Till the next nexus ).
your thoughts?

It's a bargain no doubt. If you don't mind the cut corners in battery, speakers and camera and value latest software very highly then it's the right device for you.
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MohJee said:
It's a bargain no doubt. If you don't mind the cut corners in battery, speakers and camera and value latest software very highly then it's the right device for you.
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Of course, that's why it's a $350 phone, not a $650 phone
But given the choice of nexus 5 at $350 and a Galaxy s4 at $600.................I just couldn't justify the extra $250 for the GS4...that's me. ..... and I own both lol.

I still think it is pretty crazy what they managed to pack into a $350 phone.
I just think these people are whingers. If they weren't whinging about this, they would have something else to whinge about.

I'm not one to complain. I've just sold my HTC One and bought this. But in the UK and a lot of other countries we are paying $560 for this phone.
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It's a great bargain no doubt, it's just that discovering hidden flaws in a product is never pleasant, regardless of the price.
Also they try to make it pass for a no-compromise product, which inevitably sets people up for disappointment. If they just came out and said "hey, this is just a decent phone, not perfect, but the price is amazing guys" then it would be different, expectations would be different I think.
They're the one inviting comparison with $700 devices by marketing it as they do.

n19htmare said:
I don't start many opinion threads and I've been on this site a very long time.
However, I've been seeing lot of threads come up for the NEXUS 5, regarding it's QC, and maybe questionable components. So I'll chime in and offer some of my views, for what they're worth and you can go ahead do the same.
In this day and age, a $350 smartphone (Unlocked and with no contract) is a bargain, ESPECIALLY one as capable of the Nexus 5. You guys CANNOT forget that.
This is a device that can easily handle some of the devices costing twice as much. it's a powerhouse with very up to date specs for a price that is very low.
You're getting the latest in processing power as well as graphics. You're getting an excellent screen that's large, VERY bright, very sharp with accurate color reproduction. Yes your contrast might not be as ridiculous as the OLED screens but they both have ups and downs. but come on, you forget all the negatives when you think it's a $350 device. I do atleast.
Me personally, battery life is good for me, but if it's not for you, well again, it's good, not excellent. But if you got this battery life with a $700 device, you'd be upset but at $350...........how upsent can you possible be? not to mention it's one of the very few wireless charging devices with VERY fast charge times.
Camera is Good, not a ground breaker but trust me....it's much better than other sub $350 retail phones. Compared to them, it's a gold mine of a camera.
Not to mention the software...it has the latest and during it's cycle will always be the first to have the latest.
wait....did I mention it's a $350 phone? Think about alll the feature it has at $350....... then see if you complain about the little "button rattle" you have.... which you only discovered because someone else did...... come on now..
It's one helluva a device, and if you take price into account....GOD DAMN, It's a bargain of the decade (Till the next nexus ).
your thoughts?
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And what is wrong with the battery? Stock, my battery life has been very good so far.
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And what is wrong with the battery? Stock, my battery life has been very good so far.
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Posts like this is what causes contention among people. I think most people understand it's basically a steal for what you get at this price, but when you have people who act like the phone is flawless it's highly annoying. The nexus 5 is a great phone but the battery life definitely isn't one of it's strengths. Battery life is average on this phone, if you think it's great(or great with tweaks) try out other phones and you'd reconsider your definition of great.

I'm assuming the Nexus program was an intention of to show what Google can bring to the platform through software and not hardware.. Well then.. can Google make another program where hardware matters and listen to the community of what they want without cutting corners? I'll pay for that.

I have yet to see anyone acknowledge the feet accomplished by Google. Let's look at the problem space here. We need to build a phone with a good camera. Has latest hardware specs. Performs well with new operating system as it will be a hallmark device for it. Works on major carriers. Has LTE support. Work internationally. Has international LTE support. Supports both gsm and cdma. Oh and let's not forget it needs to be half the cost of all other flagship phones! Come on people there is only one other company that is even comings close to accomplishing such feet's and that xoimi. And for now they are only China based handsets. So let's give some props where props are due. I just got my bad boy today and I am in love with it!
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Many of you talk like Google Play supported countries are the only countries in the world. In many countries in Asia the Nexus 5 will cost just as much as the S4 and Htc One. In that case, it is unreasonable to see these issues in such an expensive phone. I may still buy it because of the development but please don't say that there had to be corners cut for the cheap price when in the majority of the world the phone is being sold for the equivalent of other high end phones.

shoco said:
It's a great bargain no doubt, it's just that discovering hidden flaws in a product is never pleasant, regardless of the price.
Also they try to make it pass for a no-compromise product, which inevitably sets people up for disappointment. If they just came out and said "hey, this is just a decent phone, not perfect, but the price is amazing guys" then it would be different, expectations would be different I think.
They're the one inviting comparison with $700 devices by marketing it as they do.
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I'm sorry but what do you mean by "they try to make it pass for a no-compromise product"? Who exactly are "they"?
From my understanding, the product was launched WITHOUT any fanfare. It just mysteriously one day popped up on Google Play store.
If by "they", you mean the Tech Media and their "rumors" and leaks..... then yes, that's what they do. but the manufacturer and seller of this product never set any expectations, we set them as consumers from what we were fed by the tech media.
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And what is wrong with the battery? Stock, my battery life has been very good so far.
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If you read what I said, I also said it's been good for me. Not sure about your question.
cas8180 said:
I have yet to see anyone acknowledge the feet accomplished by Google. Let's look at the problem space here. We need to build a phone with a good camera. Has latest hardware specs. Performs well with new operating system as it will be a hallmark device for it. Works on major carriers. Has LTE support. Work internationally. Has international LTE support. Supports both gsm and cdma. Oh and let's not forget it needs to be half the cost of all other flagship phones! Come on people there is only one other company that is even comings close to accomplishing such feet's and that xoimi. And for now they are only China based handsets. So let's give some props where props are due. I just got my bad boy today and I am in love with it!
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pretty much.
Lastest in processing, graphics, bluetooth, radio chipset, NFC, wireless charging (Very few phones support this), excellent software, a rather well built device, great screen, acceptable battery life, acceptable camera...... and to package it all in a $350 price tag...it's no small feat indeed. I think the more we take THAT into account, we can begin to appreciate the $350 price tag.
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Many of you talk like Google Play supported countries are the only countries in the world. In many countries in Asia the Nexus 5 will cost just as much as the S4 and Htc One. In that case, it is unreasonable to see these issues in such an expensive phone. I may still buy it because of the development but please don't say that there had to be corners cut for the cheap price when in the majority of the world the phone is being sold for the equivalent of other high end phones.
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unfortunately, there are other economic factors that play into the pricing here when involving other countries that just out of Google's hands. Customs, taxation, economic conditions all play a role in it....... just things that can't be controlled in all cases.

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unfortunately, there are other economic factors that play into the pricing here when involving other countries that just out of Google's hands. Customs, taxation, economic conditions all play a role in it....... just things that can't be controlled in all cases.
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Yes but in my case it is completely reasonable for me to moan about low QC, battery, speakers, and camera when I paid full price. Of course I won't be doing that because the nexus 5 is awesome for the most part.

avocco said:
I'm not one to complain. I've just sold my HTC One and bought this. But in the UK and a lot of other countries we are paying $560 for this phone.
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You did ??!!! Really ??
But why ?
Are you satisfied ?? Please put up your thoughts
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And what is wrong with the battery? Stock, my battery life has been very good so far.
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Say how good ?
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I certainly wouldn't trade a working HTC One or Note 3 for one as some have suggested. Not even a G2. But for those who need a new phone on their own dollar there is no other choice.

My phone is perfect in every way not one defect. Best phone i have owned. Coming from a s3
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It's not only hardware. It's also this f****** closed source cpu drivers with Samsung, (exynos), the considerable delay to have version updates with correct sources and so on. A lot of major companies tend to turn like Apple. (See Knox, region simlock and so on)
Google is not a charity foundation neither, but at least our devs have less pain to bring us good roms.

Yeah 350 for you guys in the states, I got mine at 520 in asia
Life is not fair

12 hours usage so far today, battery is at 73%. Spent about an hour streaming music over wifi at the gym. About 1 hour of sporadic screen on time. Pretty happy with the battery.
What people forget is that when they get a new phone they tend to spend much more time than usual installing new apps, testing things out. The battery ran out on me and I started to agree with you all... until i realised i had installed 80 apps and played 3 different games for 4 hours of screen on time. (add on top of this all the stuff going on in the back ground setting things up).

Its a nexus device I guess aim toward developer so they can build better apps and stuff. The regular Betty and Nancy can love along lol
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Nexus 6 - still worth it?

Android - I'm coming home! Now to find a phone.
Been looking at the Nexus 6 pretty hard. I don't want LG, and I refuse to pay premium prices for a Haiwei crash-o-matic piece of junk.
Spent some time at Best Buy today fondling a Nexus 6 - love the screen, love the feel, love the speed.
So, nearly a year after it's release, is it still worth it? Thinking about doing another 2 year with AT&T, which would make it $149, or $349 outright through Best Buy.
THoughts?

Plain and simple: Yes
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Its as cool to have as an Indialantic beach!

People are still happy with their Nexus 4's for that matter, so I'd say yes, it's still worth it for the next 2 years. Although personally I despise 2 year contracts.

Most definitely. I have a Galaxy S6 and this thing blows it out of the water, except the camera. Way faster, much more support, better battery life.. Although I figured I'd get more than what I do. I'm keeping my eye out on the upcoming Nexus(es) but I have a feeling I'll stick with this and the S6 for awhile.
BTW I just purchased this about a month ago from Swappa. Couldn't stand being locked down with the S6 anymore.
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Traded my G4 for a nexus and its so much better so YES ! Great screen, speakers and performance !! I will never use a skinned Android phone again !
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Hmmmm... I just looked at the AT&T website - it was there last night, not there this morning.
I hope this doesn't mean they pulled it.
If they did my only hope is that they make the Moto X Pure available, but I am doubtful.

JWhipple said:
Hmmmm... I just looked at the AT&T website - it was there last night, not there this morning.
I hope this doesn't mean they pulled it.
If they did my only hope is that they make the Moto X Pure available, but I am doubtful.
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Get the unlocked version! That way you have options. IMO, over the next 2-5 years, we are going to see major changes in the way cellular, and probably all technology, services are handled. It would suck to be locked in for the next 2 years.
Im on Straight Talk for $50 a month and using AT&T towers in my area w/ 4g LTE. Unlimited everthing Full speed up to 5g and throttled after that. Unless you are grandfathered in on some amazing deal, being locked in always favors the carrier.
BTW, Best Buy has 6 month interest free financing.

byrdcfmma said:
Get the unlocked version! That way you have options. IMO, over the next 2-5 years, we are going to see major changes in the way cellular, and probably all technology, services are handled. It would suck to be locked in for the next 2 years.
Im on Straight Talk for $50 a month and using AT&T towers in my area w/ 4g LTE. Unlimited everthing Full speed up to 5g and throttled after that. Unless you are grandfathered in on some amazing deal, being locked in always favors the carrier.
BTW, Best Buy has 6 month interest free financing.
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I want the unlocked one, but funding is tight... plus so is the wife's purse LOL
She controls the money in the house so I play by her rules - happy wife, happy life!
Regarding the financing, I tried already - because I had a bankruptcy in the past 3 years Best Buy won't give me any credit (even though every other bank in the free world seems to be throwing it at me!)

My wife about cut me when I ordered our Nexus 6's because of the price haha! But now that she has one I doubt she'll let me get her out of the Nexus lineup from here on out. The Nexus community doesn't seem to die out like our devices often do. The hardware really isn't that dated. I admit the camera is a bit lacking on this device. Finding a case can be a challenge if you're a destroyer of phones like myself. But the speed, screen and speakers on this phone are amazing!
Case wise I had to get a unicorn beetle. It has saved my phone twice now.

I contacted AT&T via Facebook - all they could tell me is that it wasn't available right now - which doesn't necessarily mean that they will not have it again, just that it's not available NOW. Go figure...

JWhipple said:
I contacted AT&T via Facebook - all they could tell me is that it wasn't available right now - which doesn't necessarily mean that they will not have it again, just that it's not available NOW. Go figure...
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New Nexus is coming out later on this month or next month. It's made by Huawei. Guess AT&T have just unloaded all their old stock. Amazon and ebay sellers are doing the same.

JWhipple said:
Android - I'm coming home! Now to find a phone.
Been looking at the Nexus 6 pretty hard. I don't want LG, and I refuse to pay premium prices for a Haiwei crash-o-matic piece of junk.
Spent some time at Best Buy today fondling a Nexus 6 - love the screen, love the feel, love the speed.
So, nearly a year after it's release, is it still worth it? Thinking about doing another 2 year with AT&T, which would make it $149, or $349 outright through Best Buy.
THoughts?
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Thank you for your service!!!

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Thank you for your service!!!
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Semper Fi!