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Sadly, Google CEO Eric Schmidt has confirmed that there wont be a Nexus Two:
http://androinica.com/2010/07/05/go...oming-that-means-a-nexus-two-is-coming-right/
Im actually really disappointed, as I planned on selling my Nexus One to upgrade to the Nexus Two. Then it made me wonder....I wonder now if the resale price on the Nexus One will go higher, as this is the only phone Google had directly manufactured for them?
I managed to get 120 euros for my old G1 when I sold it, and it was a year old (I babied it and kept it in FLAWLESS condition). I paid 370 Euros for my Nexus One (contract free) from someone who had purchased it from Google directly and only had it for a week. I wonder now if when January comes around, if I can get more for it now?
Would you sell your Nexus One later this year if you knew you could get more for it than what you paid? And if you could, do you think its worth it to sell it or hold onto it? Do you think Nexus Ones that came directly from Google vs a carrier will be worth more?
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I paid $199 for my AT&T 3G Band Nexus One & Dock... I'm pretty sure I could get back what I paid now, even if they do make a N2
They should release a Nexus 2 but as a limited edition phone...just make like 200K of the handsets...high quality...make a flagship Android phone...it'd go great with the dev and geek community. A Nexus every year.
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They should release a Nexus 2 but as a limited edition phone...just make like 200K of the handsets...high quality...make a flagship Android phone...it'd go great with the dev and geek community. A Nexus every year.
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Brilliant idea! I really feel that Google needs to put out their own phone regularly, as a high Android powered device running stock Android is in my eyes badly needed. The thing is, I dont think Google is pulling our chains on this. I really dont think another phone will come directly in the same form that the Nexus One did.
Im sure alot of people including myself would scoop up 200,000 of these handsets in a relatively short amount of time.
I personally think thats a great idea, as I love the fact that I dont walk around seeing everyone and their mother having my phone
Then what will be the next phone to receive updates without carrier consent? Or the next developer phone entirely? Or the next phone with fastboot OEM unlock? There may not be a Nexus two, but there needs to be a equivalent.
My nexus is going in my permanent collection I think. It's too nice of a phone to sell when I'm done with it. Maybe I'll change my mind later, but It's almost like a collectors phone in a way.
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Brilliant idea! I really feel that Google needs to put out their own phone regularly, as a high Android powered device running stock Android is in my eyes badly needed. The thing is, I dont think Google is pulling our chains on this. I really dont think another phone will come directly in the same form that the Nexus One did.
Im sure alot of people including myself would scoop up 200,000 of these handsets in a relatively short amount of time.
I personally think thats a great idea, as I love the fact that I dont walk around seeing everyone and their mother having my phone
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yep...and then it's exclusive status will cause it to sell out faster...maybe the year after they can up it to 500K and soon the Nexus brand will be widely known as quality and exclusivity..."oh you have an iPhone 6? well **BAM** I have a Nexus 3, you were saying?"
You guys are forgetting that Google has never really been about content CREATION. The nexus was some kind of weird test for them and their production/marketing teams. They're much happier (as an organization) to either be a link from others' created content or to provide backend support for others. They don't want to be in the production, direct selling, QA, and support business. This is why you'll probably never see another google phone.
very disappointing, but a pretty cool way of backing off. not like apple where they give you the 3G then the 3GS, hate their upgrades.
i dunno what i'm supposed to get after the N1 grows old someday.
planning on getting another one before the online store closes.
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very disappointing, but a pretty cool way of backing off. not like apple where they give you the 3G then the 3GS, hate their upgrades.
i dunno what i'm supposed to get after the N1 grows old someday.
planning on getting another one before the online store closes.
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lol, my exact thoughts...I have NO idea what my next phone is gonna be now :-(
they could have at least made a few improvement and release Nexus 2.
all i want is SAMOLED, FM-tuner......and.....thats it i guess.
kolyan said:
they could have at least made a few improvement and release Nexus 2.
all i want is SAMOLED, FM-tuner......and.....thats it i guess.
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dedicated GPU and the newer multitouch sensors....oh I'd like the touch buttons to be either heavily improved or replaced with good quality hard buttons that look like the Legend's
Just bought mine. Don't think I will sell it until a see a dual core gsm phone. But even then the Nexus is just soo nice!
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Just bought mine. Don't think I will sell it until a see a dual core gsm phone. But even then the Nexus is just soo nice!
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That's rumored for this winter: http://androidspin.com/2010/06/24/rumor-dual-core-800mhz-phone-hitting-t-mobile-before-holidays/
im gonna hang on to alexis, my nexus, for a bit and retire it as i did my adp1. i think the htc sidekick looks like a worthy replacement in the specs but if its got a ui over stock android im out. Nothing beats having a unbranded device.
i was really looking forward to nexus successors. As a TMobile customer it was my strongest hope of having high powered stock Android options
But what if gingerbread doesnt eliminate other skins like google hopes it will? These other stupid companies have worked hard to put their stupid skins (other than HTC's Sense obviously) on these otherwise great android phones, maybe they wont want to just drop their development.
Then maybe Google would release a phone to display their own UI like they put out the nexus to set the previous bar...
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Brilliant idea! I really feel that Google needs to put out their own phone regularly, as a high Android powered device running stock Android is in my eyes badly needed. The thing is, I dont think Google is pulling our chains on this. I really dont think another phone will come directly in the same form that the Nexus One did.
Im sure alot of people including myself would scoop up 200,000 of these handsets in a relatively short amount of time.
I personally think thats a great idea, as I love the fact that I dont walk around seeing everyone and their mother having my phone
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Honestly mate, that's what's happened to the iPhone, don't cha think? At least that's how it is in Singapore. Every other schmuck has an iPhone. To think that not too long ago, anything with an "i" as the first letter in its name was something to be proud of. Now it's a phone for the masses.
What I'm trying to say is, I suppose Schmidt had his heart in the right place when he decided to announce that Google's pulled the plug on the project..
However having said that, a "limited edition" every year (to the date, e.g. 5 Jan 2011 for N2) would be wicked
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i was really looking forward to nexus successors. As a TMobile customer it was my strongest hope of having high powered stock Android options
But what if gingerbread doesnt eliminate other skins like google hopes it will? These other stupid companies have worked hard to put their stupid skins (other than HTC's Sense obviously) on these otherwise great android phones, maybe they wont want to just drop their development.
Then maybe Google would release a phone to display their own UI like they put out the nexus to set the previous bar...
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We're all aware of Google's "Do No Evil" motto aren't we? Taking that into consideration I'd say that a more likely route Google may take is to mandate that its partners (Moto, HTC, Acer, etc., ) must, to the best of their abilities, educate their customers on the choices they have (stock vs. something-meatier-on-top [e.g. Sense UI]), and to allow these customers to easily switch between UIs.
Remember how in the earlier builds of HTC's Desire, you could actually "force stop" the Sense UI like any other app? Something like that, just intentional this time
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We're all aware of Google's "Do No Evil" motto aren't we? Taking that into consideration I'd say that a more likely route Google may take is to mandate that its partners (Moto, HTC, Acer, etc., ) must, to the best of their abilities, educate their customers on the choices they have (stock vs. something-meatier-on-top [e.g. Sense UI]), and to allow these customers to easily switch between UIs.
Remember how in the earlier builds of HTC's Desire, you could actually "force stop" the Sense UI like any other app? Something like that, just intentional this time
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yea you could forcestop the sense homescreen, but that's about it...you couldn't do anything about the systemwide integration of sense.
If these OEMs made their skins like home replacements or something and simply disabled stock launcher that'd be great...that way regular joes would use their OS and the more tech savvy people would easily disable the OEM home replacement. Then updates would probably happen faster as well.
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lol, my exact thoughts...I have NO idea what my next phone is gonna be now :-(
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I don't think you need to go looking for a phone as such, I think they find you in a way.....
I went to the shop for my upgrade and saw the G1 for the first time, bang! that was it! that was the handset I wanted.
I then wanted the Hero and I'm now on the Nexus.
Of all the phones out now there is truly not one I want, I'd love a mash up of a couple though! (Samsung S Amoled screen, Desire radio, 8mb camera with Dual flash, HD video, hard buttons...etc).
Basically, until a new hadset comes out, makes me want I don't go looking.
I don’t know if it’s true but the guy at the Verizon store told me he heard the Bionic was being canceled and they were coming out with a better version with a 12MP cam, 1 GIG Ram, etc and it would be out in September now.
Don’t know if it’s true or old news.
That is the current rumor. The Bionic is being replaced with the Targa. No official confirmation from Moto or Verizon yet.
If and when confirmed I will need to buy an interim device from Craigslist to hold me over until the release of the new batch of dual core 4G phones are released.
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I wish there were more information about time lines. I am eligible for upgrade now. Nothing looks good at this point if this gets canceled. The Charge is single core ($300, WTF!), the Revolution rumors are going back and forth (dual/single core), the X2 doesn't have 4G, the Thunderdolt has a tiny battery and is a single core device... Targa in September? My DInc won't last that long. I might just upgrade to the DX on a one year contract. (Yes, I know the one year contract is unavailable to the masses...)
I called verizon and I'm not sure which rep you talked to, but they not only told me the rumor wasn't true, but they said reps shouldn't ever give a rumor like that unless it's confirmed. Then this popped up... http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Motorola-Droid-Bionic-Delayed-as-iPhone-5-Looms-229162/
It's delayed no canned.
this is great news, i wasn't looking forward to eating the 600 bionic cases i received 2 weeks ago! well great news would be a may release date, but this is at least good news.
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this is great news, i wasn't looking forward to eating the 600 bionic cases i received 2 weeks ago! well great news would be a may release date, but this is at least good news.
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Unfortunately you may not be out of the woods yet. In addition to "enhancements" the rumor mill also suggests an updated form factor.
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That is the current rumor. The Bionic is being replaced with the Targa. No official confirmation from Moto or Verizon yet.
If and when confirmed I will need to buy an interim device from Craigslist to hold me over until the release of the new batch of dual core 4G phones are released.
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this is true.
I bought a DInc from Craigslist. I have rooted and loaded CM7.0.2.1. It's running smooth with all day battery life on stock battery with moderate use, about 12 hours with 20% of battery left. This includes about 4 hours of Pandora use on 3G.
I can wait for the new Bionic now.
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The Bionic has been removed from the Motorola web site
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Home
Motorola has removed the Droid Bionic from their web site. Searching on the site will only lead you to the Mobile Phone Support site.
Hope to see the new Droid Bionic site up in the near future.
I was at the Verizon store today, and inquired about the Bionic. The guy there said it was being postponed because they're removing the dual core processor & going with single core, due to massive overheating that they couldn't find a workaround for.
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I was at the Verizon store today, and inquired about the Bionic. The guy there said it was being postponed because they're removing the dual core processor & going with single core, due to massive overheating that they couldn't find a workaround for.
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Though there was no specific information given about the changes being made other than the form factor, I highly doubt they'd do that. It's been the phone every is zeroed in on because of the Tegra 2 along side 4G.
Motorola's DROID BIONIC LTE smartphone, first announced at this year's International Consumer Electronics Show, will launch this summer with Verizon Wireless. Based on compelling feedback since the show, we are incorporating several enhancements to make this an even better consumer experience. This includes expanded features, functionality and an improved form factor.
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Source: http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-DROID-BIONIC-Fact-Sheet-353a.aspx
I highly their idea of an enhancement is a downgrade. The "Improved form factor" could mean they're using a different phone entirey(same features, obviously and hopefully more or "enhancements" wouldn't be the right word) because of issues they were having, as some have thought to have been heat issues before. There have been others saying that it resembled the HTC Thunderbolt too closely, which is true in a lot of ways, but nobody but the people working on the phone really know anything for sure. All we can do is speculate.
Motorola isn't going to drop to a single core processor. It'd be a bad move on their part to release a phone with such similar specs to, both, the Thunderbolt and Charge, which are both already out there. We all wanted the Bionic because it would blow the other Verizon phones out of the water in comparison.
On a personal note... they need to hurry up and get the Bionic out there so I can upgrade.. lol My Droid 1 is still nice and all, but my physical keyboard is done for... letters separated and glue not holding.. letters overlapping, making it hard to type without constantly pushing them back... lol I refuse to settle for less than upgrading to a phone of the Bionic's specs or better. A phone that is overkill now is a phone that'll still be decent when I upgrade again, is the way I look at it.
I ramble... sorry.. lol
This is true. It has been scraped for a better Moto Device. This device is to be released during the summer. So far they do not have alot of specs on it. I know a VZW employee and he could not give me a name of the Moto 4G device that is coming out but its this summer.
Well thats pretty dissapointing i was very much looking forward to atleast getting my hands on one, hopefully Motorola releases something better this summer
Wow I almost waited for the Bionic when I bought my Atrix because I was tired of AT&T. Then they kept pushing the bionic out and I finally caved and got the Atrix. By September I will be 1/3 of the way through my contract and maybe when this contract is up Verizon will have one I want. Sorry to hear it may be canceled.
one thing every one here seems to need to learn... PEOPLE AT THE VZW STORE ARE ****ING SALESMEN!
meaning, they will tell you whever lies they think you want to hear to try to get you to buy a new phone THAT DAY.
just saying they are always lieing to you to get sales... i see it happen all day at work. dont be a sucker. you're getter off geting info from sites liek this than sales associates.
There will still be a Droid Bionic, it just won't be quite what it was originally supposed to be. It will need a different case than what was originally going to need, so if you already bought cases, you will be out of luck. The problem is that other companies (Samsung) have announced better phones, with better screen since Motorola announced the Bionic. The Dual 1.2ghz is better than what Motorola had announced so they have to go back and fix that. After the long wait, they don't want to come out just to be second best.
What is this new form factor that is alluded to? I hope that it is shaped like the Atrix honestly.
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http://www.bgr.com/2012/01/02/droid...-to-be-discontinued-in-january-report-claims/
How is it going to affect our phone and service? I had a D1 before the upgrade (a short while ago). As far as I can remember, D1 didn't reach that mark somewhere 1 year or more after its inception. Anyway, how do you feel about this if it turns out to be true?
Thank you.
I like my phone and with Hash porting ICS, it is even sweeter. Who cares?
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My old phone was the Droid Eris, which received its 2.1 upgrade after it stopped selling and has received two security updates since, including one in March 2011, about one year after the Eris went EOL.
So far the rumors have said that the D4 would come December 8, then December 22, now February 2. I tend to trust rumors only after they come true. In any case, the Droid X got its GB update after EOL, as did the D2, so EOL doesn't mean much anyway, unless, of course, you want to buy another.
We knew the d4 was coming so this is old news.This doesn't mean its end of support.
What does "all of Verizon's 4G LTE Hotspots to be discontinued" mean? As in, your 4G device cannot act as a hot-spot any longer? At first glance, it sounded like they were shutting down all their 4G connections, haha.
So now that the D3 is "retired" does that mean if I get a replacement under warranty it'll be a Droid 4 or something else?
I swore off Samsung after the Fascinate. Their software was god awful and their support was terrible. But since then, they've taken so many steps in the right direction. TouchWiz4 is actually pretty fantastic, and they're the fastest with updates now. Not only that, but they've left their bootloaders unlocked and are very dev friendly.
Motorola, on the other hand, has been on a downward spiral since the Droid. When I first saw the Droid 3, I was expecting a slow, bulky phone with terrible software, an awful keyboard, and a fugly screen. But I was wrong. I thought they were turning things around, I fell in love with the phone, and I sprung for it. The phone was beautifully designed, with a great keyboard, thin profile, and it was paired with shockingly nice software. It was fast, and is still Verizon's best 3G phone. They were promising unlocked bootloaders and quick updates.
Yet here we are, less than 6 months later. It has only seen one update. And it's successor is already finalized and ready to be released. Motorola wasn't expecting the phone to be so wildly popular(it was the 2nd or 3rd top selling Android smartphone), and they were desperate to get a 4G version out. They've completely forgotten about the Droid 3 and are giving it's owners the middle finger. And they're doing the same to Bionic owners with the Razr and Razr owners with the Maxx(aka Droid X3.)
So, unless they turn things around like Samsung, this was my last Motorola phone. This is my 5th or 6th Droid 3 and, thankfully, Verizon gave me an early upgrade for my troubles, so I'm getting a Galaxy Nexus very soon. I'm done with Moto's BS.
This phone is only something to hold me over until T-Mobile goes away. Even then, I will use it on VZW until it either falls apart or becomes completely irrelevant. Somehow, I don't think either of those things will happen too soon, unless I drop it repeatedly on pavement lol. It's already been dropped, before I bought it from craigslist, and still looks fine
After we go back to VZW, I may contemplate getting the D4, but it doesn't look as good as the D3 IMO.
Lyxdeslic said:
What does "all of Verizon's 4G LTE Hotspots to be discontinued" mean? As in, your 4G device cannot act as a hot-spot any longer? At first glance, it sounded like they were shutting down all their 4G connections, haha.
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More likely they are coming out with a complete new line of MiFi and USB devices.
fairplay89 said:
So now that the D3 is "retired" does that mean if I get a replacement under warranty it'll be a Droid 4 or something else?
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Since VZW is still selling reconditioned Droid R2D2 units right now, and have put in place a trade-in program when you buy a new phone, I have a strange feeling that they will have quite an inventory of reconditioned D3s to send out in these cases. Also, Moto can still manufacture a few - VZW just won't be selling them new.
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Yet here we are, less than 6 months later. It has only seen one update.
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That's one more update that the Fascinate saw in six months, IIRC. And just about the same as the Thunderbolt, or the Inc 2, for that matter. As far as what the phone is designed to do with GB, is there something in software that needs to be updated on the D3 right now? (Well, actually, I'd love some of the Tasker-like battery saving stuff in the Razr...)
And it's successor is already finalized and ready to be released. Motorola wasn't expecting the phone to be so wildly popular(it was the 2nd or 3rd top selling Android smartphone), and they were desperate to get a 4G version out.
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Remember that Motorola does not decide which phone Verizon sells - Verizon decides that. Thinking back on the history of the keyboard Droid line, the D2 came out about 10 months after the D1. I am sure that Verizon was eager to get a D3 in house in about the same amount of time; I am also sure that they would have loved having it with LTE, but the reality is that Motorola was struggling with LTE (witness the Bionic's long delay and complete redesign). So, Verizon ordered the D3 for July - 10 months after the D2 launch, with a reliable 3G radio and pretty darned good hardware for the time (I think I would have preferred 1 GB of RAM, gut 512 MB isn't terrible.)
Now that LTE is more widespread, Verizon obviously thinks of it as a competitive advantage over other carriers, it sort of makes sense that they want an LTE Droid keyboard phone to carry on. I think that this six/seven month difference (we are still waiting for the D4) is just a one-time thing because of the launch of LTE - I think that a presumed D5 will come out closer to the end of 2012 than toward the middle.
Well, maybe until they come out with 5G networking in about ten years or so...
They've completely forgotten about the Droid 3 and are giving it's owners the middle finger. And they're doing the same to Bionic owners with the Razr and Razr owners with the Maxx(aka Droid X3.)
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I still don't see how coming out with new lines is giving existing owners a middle finger, but whatever...I'd say that if the D3 never gets another software update, and doesn't get ICS, I'll agree with you, but we are, I think, months away from that being a decision that can be made. (And I think that D3 runs just fine on GB. There are some cool features in ICS, but they are not exactly killer cool features compared with GB in my opinion.)
So, unless they turn things around like Samsung, this was my last Motorola phone. This is my 5th or 6th Droid 3 and, thankfully, Verizon gave me an early upgrade for my troubles, so I'm getting a Galaxy Nexus very soon. I'm done with Moto's BS.
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Good luck with the Nexus - it sounds like a great phone.
The D3 is definitely my last Moto phone for a while, unless they drastically change the way they do things. This device on it's current version of GB is still loaded with tons of known bugs and issues, and Motorola isn't doing a damn thing about it. When the D4 comes out, then it is even more unlikely to get updated. Add in the unwillingness to unlock bootloaders and you have your answer.
The people making the decisions at Motorola are a bunch of pretentious a-holes who think their large market share will last forever, but it won't.
This phone is frickin' sweet with ICS. I think it'll keep me happy for quite some time...unless it breaks that is. EOL? Meh.
After reading all these replies, my concern comes down to this: what is the likelihood verizon and motto stop supporting this phone after it reaches to mark? Supporting means OTA first, ICS next.
As far as the phone is concerned, I LOVE it. I think it offers better value than D4 in terms of cost ($40 at costco), scalability (removable battery), and option to use XT883 radio.
I think verizon and motto probably realize there are some un-intended values bundled in D3, that's why they are anxious to put the label on it just 6 months after its inception.
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After reading all these replies, my concern comes down to this: what is the likelihood verizon and motto stop supporting this phone after it reaches to mark? Supporting means OTA first, ICS next.
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Considering that they just released a security update for the D1, and that the DX received a GB update, as did the D2, both over a year after they were released - I think it's pretty likely that there will be at least security updates going forward, perhaps GB updates to 2.3.7 if they decide not to do ICS. But, we'll see...
Well it's a story known all to well. I had the bionic. Every time I would call Verizon they would tell me to wait for the new update that was around the corner or they would just replace the phone with another Bionic. The new. 905 update just made the phone unusable. I finally broke down and called verizion yet again not expecting any real help. I was very kind and basically killed em with kindness. After explaining that I have had issues since day one and that I required a working smartphone for work and there was a history of me calling all the time, they finally moved me to what they called level 2 support. Had to explain the whole process from day one to now again. The man was very kind, as was I and offered me a thunderbolt. I asked him if there was any way to change out to a different dual core 4g phone cause the thunderbolt was a step backwards. He then said he could give me a razr. OK I guess but I then asked if he could do any dual core 4g that wasn't a Motorola. He said no at first cause phone companies are cracking down on the exchanging phone issue. As I started to say OK send me the razr, he asked if I would hold for about 10min. I said sure. When he came back he said I can tell you are not happy with Motorola at all and in general not happy with the way things have been handled. He said he asked his boss if something could be done and got approved the Galaxy Nexus for me. Now I am waiting on it to arrive. (If you are willing to take a total of an hour and a half and be extra kind and not demand stuff they will work with you. Key is to keep talking till they offer a phone and never say no if they offer a phone you don't want. Just ask if its possible for something else in an indirect way) So I can't wait to start being part of the nexus forum and am very excited to be getting a phone with an unlocked bootloader again. My Incredible was just that. Incredible. I am hoping the nexus will be the same.
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Congratulations, but the "big mistake" is unnecessary and kind of insulting. I've never had any problems with mine unless I was on one of the GB-based ICS ROMs.
Sorry if offended. I have had nothing but trouble from this phone. It has been so unreliable its not funny. Even with the ics leaks I still had issues. It would had been a great experience if it was reliable. I am not the type that likes to offend so I will remove that part. Apologies my friend.
I was just being a baby. Maybe it's just me being jealous. Seriously Congrats on the S3. My brother just got one (I made him pre order to not screw up our family's unlimited plans) and I want to make love to it.
I thought the op got a galaxy nexus not a s3
Too bad you been having problems with your bionic, I haven't have any problems with mines even on the ICS leaks from 2231-235
Hope you enjoy the gnex more than I do bc for me the bionic have a better reception/data connection than the gnex I had
It is a nexus that is on its way indeed. Thanks and I am not too worried about reception as I am stability. The bionic just would not stay connected to data for nothing except on .902 and even with that I had to battery pull about every 2-3 days cause of no data. Even with the ics leaks. 3 bionics and all have had the same problem. It would have been a great phone just if data was a solid connection and an unlocked bootloader. Maybe for those still with the bionic maybe you will get an unlock tool one day. Saw a tweet from Motorola about a week ago saying they were working on one but of course its been said for a year they were going to unlock the bootloaders.
Nexus, my bad. Too many Galaxy devices going on right now! the Galaxy Nexus is a piece of sheer beauty though. Someone came with with the GSM variant on 4.1.1 for me to root, and I was amazed at just how smooth JB is.
I would not ditch a Bionic for a Nexus now.
I ditched the bionic for any dual core 4g phone they would give me. Just so happened to be a nexus.
I just got off my 3rd phone call with VZW.
1st call- Told them some of what I had tried to do to fix the data dropping. (All of which I read about here or elsewhere on the interwebz) Removed battery, adjusted nighttime settings.
Result- New Sim Card, no data drops for 2 days, then they came back with a vengence
2nd call- They asked me to factory reset my phone. I'm a little bit pissed at this point but I tried it. They are the expert in this conversation and I figured refusal to waste my time would result in me wasting more time before anything was actually resolved. Also I didn't want to end up yelling at some poor soul in a call center.
Result- Data drop within 3 hours of resetting the phone.
(less than 10 minutes ago) 3rd call- Samsung Galaxy Nexus is being shipped to me. I was leaning towards the razr but they told me that the razr was having some data problems as well. I'm really sick of this and just want a working 4g smartphone. 4g is the greatest thing before or after sliced bread, I can watch youtube with no buffering at any time. I loved the bionic so very much visible screen in direct sunlight ftw, good build qualify, fits well in my hand, ect. I didn't have to hint or argue with them to get the nexus, I asked what phones were available to me and they said the Nexus and the Razr. I hinted about the S3 and they shot that down without missing a beat, probably knew I was going to ask before I started. Also I'm getting the extended battery because they are out of the regular batteries.
Result- Oh please merciful spaghetti monster let phone work out.
If you're having data trouble call them and follow the steps. I'll see you in the nexus forum, I'll be the one lurking.
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Never ever have I had problem with my Bionic. I would never of traded, no way Jose. With ICS its the best thing out. Strong casing, not that plastic thin stuff. Love my Bionic but if you happy and it is what it is. Good luck with the Nexus. Reading all posts here seems like people feel the same way. In the past I never waited that long for an exchange lol.
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I just got off my 3rd phone call with VZW.
1st call- Told them some of what I had tried to do to fix the data dropping. (All of which I read about here or elsewhere on the interwebz) Removed battery, adjusted nighttime settings.
Result- New Sim Card, no data drops for 2 days, then they came back with a vengence
2nd call- They asked me to factory reset my phone. I'm a little bit pissed at this point but I tried it. They are the expert in this conversation and I figured refusal to waste my time would result in me wasting more time before anything was actually resolved. Also I didn't want to end up yelling at some poor soul in a call center.
Result- Data drop within 3 hours of resetting the phone.
(less than 10 minutes ago) 3rd call- Samsung Galaxy Nexus is being shipped to me. I was leaning towards the razr but they told me that the razr was having some data problems as well. I'm really sick of this and just want a working 4g smartphone. 4g is the greatest thing before or after sliced bread, I can watch youtube with no buffering at any time. I loved the bionic so very much visible screen in direct sunlight ftw, good build qualify, fits well in my hand, ect. I didn't have to hint or argue with them to get the nexus, I asked what phones were available to me and they said the Nexus and the Razr. I hinted about the S3 and they shot that down without missing a beat, probably knew I was going to ask before I started. Also I'm getting the extended battery because they are out of the regular batteries.
Result- Oh please merciful spaghetti monster let phone work out.
If you're having data trouble call them and follow the steps. I'll see you in the nexus forum, I'll be the one lurking.
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Won't see me there. Never had data drops and since everyone is in 4g there is no 3g traffic so 3g is very smooth. Also the fact that they gave u the fat battery means they will send u the back also which when connected, it will be heavier. But if you're happy thats what counts/
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The reason they're running out of Bionis is because people are re-buying them. G o to Swappa and see that price has not dropped and that the demad is high. The Bionic is back.
Getting a new Bionic and sim card sent to me. Hopefully it works better than this one.
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For those being sent a Nexus, what about your Bionic? Did they want it mailed back to them? Did they say keep it?
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my bionic's headphone jack started going bad about 5 months in, called vzw and they sent me a new phone for free being it was under warranty. I love the bionic, if it's broke, just fix it.
To those who haven't had any trouble with the bionic, I envy you greatly. I think I've given the phone more than a fair shake at this point and it gave me a white 4g signal of doom in return.
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For those being sent a Nexus, what about your Bionic? Did they want it mailed back to them? Did they say keep it?
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They want it back. I'd like to keep it, perhaps one day, when cars fly, moto will fix it and I'd have a valuable backup, or maybe the nexus would be the back up. Or I could use it like a tiny tablet for....something.
The Bionic could have been a great phone if it was not for the LOCKED BOOT LOADER, and the monsterious level of bloatware(I blame Verizon/Motorola, and not android for this issue). My experience with pure google phones has been outstanding(I own a Nexus S 4g), heck most of the modder's/developers on XDA are in essence trying to actually enjoy the greatness of simply pure google. Why else would I install a custom ROM, because most of the custom rom's are faster and bloatware free. I have what cellphone carriers have done to great phones, quite simply they turn them to ****.
My Verizon contract just ran out and I traded my Bionic for an unlocked GSM Galaxy Nexus. I never had any problems with my Bionic and loved it, but the Nexus is a better phone. It's amazing how much faster and smoother it seems, and the build quality is very good. It's not cheap feeling at all. I think the Bionic's flimsy back actually made it feel a little cheaper. I do miss the Bionic's super bright screen outside, though. That thing is just amazingly visible in direct sunlight. The Nexus' screen can't hold a candle to it in that regard, at least.
I am curious to know if anyone here, that has switched from the Bionic to the Nexus, actually used ICS on their Bionic first. When I switched over to ICS from GB on my Bionic, it WAS like having a whole new phone, and responsiveness was amazing. Probably the same experience I would have gotten if I had upgraded from a .905 Bionic to a Nexus.
Well, that was my thought last night, so I called VZW and after about 10 minutes the conversation got to the point where they were offering me a replacement. No yelling or any arguing was required - it was very nice. They offered me any 4G LTE phone except the HTC 1X, Galaxy SIII or new Incredible (for free and no contract extension). They said that the Galaxy Nexus and Razr MAXX were probably the best that were available. After much deliberation, I opted for the Razr MAXX since I think it barely wins out due to the awesome battery life. Plus, ICS is officially released for it, so it's an upgrade from the Bionic any way you look at it. It should arrive in 2-3 days. I have no idea what the development community is like for the MAXX; I was just kind of hoping there was something out there.
Worst case scenario - I don't like it, sell it on eBay and buy a Nexus with the sale money.
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I am curious to know if anyone here, that has switched from the Bionic to the Nexus, actually used ICS on their Bionic first. When I switched over to ICS from GB on my Bionic, it WAS like having a whole new phone, and responsiveness was amazing. Probably the same experience I would have gotten if I had upgraded from a .905 Bionic to a Nexus.
Well, that was my thought last night, so I called VZW and after about 10 minutes the conversation got to the point where they were offering me a replacement. No yelling or any arguing was required - it was very nice. They offered me any 4G LTE phone except the HTC 1X, Galaxy SIII or new Incredible (for free and no contract extension). They said that the Galaxy Nexus and Razr MAXX were probably the best that were available. After much deliberation, I opted for the Razr MAXX since I think it barely wins out due to the awesome battery life. Plus, ICS is officially released for it, so it's an upgrade from the Bionic any way you look at it. It should arrive in 2-3 days. I have no idea what the development community is like for the MAXX; I was just kind of hoping there was something out there.
Worst case scenario - I don't like it, sell it on eBay and buy a Nexus with the sale money.
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I never rooted my bionic and my reading lead me to believe that the dev community hadn't fixed this particular issue with the data. You can buy a 4k battery fro the nexus for $20 so that wasn't a big issue to me. They didn't offer me a maxx just the regular razr.
Yeah, I've seen that 4K battery...Yikes. It could power a boat. The biggest appeal to the Nexus is unlocked bootloader and slim profile. Everything can have ICS these days, with the right hacks, so the "always get the latest updates from Google" tagline never swayed me. I still don't see how it beats the MAXX. I guess I'll find out soon enough if I made the right choice. I never had any complaints about the screen on the Bionic, and the MAXX is supposed to be the same if not a little better. I sit in front of an HD display all day at work to compare it to.
So with the Nexus 4 around the corner, I'm sure a lot of us are wondering if we should keep messing with this phone. The Nexus 4 is 300 bucks for the 8gb version, so you could sell this phone and get 150-200, and cover the rest. It is completely unlocked and has higher specs all around than this phone (besides no LTE which may stop me from buying it). So I was wondering how much of this community will stay with the AHD. It's a great device, especially with the new battery, but is it worth not be able to flash as many roms as possible to it? Let me know your opinions and help me make up my mind! If I do decide to get it I will have a AHD with the battey mod, otterbox, TPU case, hdmi, and Zagg screen protector for sale lol. But seriously anyone open to speak their minds? I don't know what to do!
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So with the Nexus 4 around the corner, I'm sure a lot of us are wondering if we should keep messing with this phone. The Nexus 4 is 300 bucks for the 8gb version, so you could sell this phone and get 150-200, and cover the rest. It is completely unlocked and has higher specs all around than this phone (besides no LTE which may stop me from buying it). So I was wondering how much of this community will stay with the AHD. It's a great device, especially with the new battery, but is it worth not be able to flash as many roms as possible to it? Let me know your opinions and help me make up my mind! If I do decide to get it I will have a AHD with the battey mod, otterbox, TPU case, hdmi, and Zagg screen protector for sale lol. But seriously anyone open to speak their minds? I don't know what to do!
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Given the lack of a working recovery at this point. I'm giving serious consideration to picking up a N4 as my primary, and keeping my AHD as a backup.
If you read the reviews on the N4, in spite of the newer hardware, it still gets spanked by the One X, and the S3. HERE on Anandtech.
Knowing that my phone spanks both the OneX as well as the S3 like a red headed step child, it's going to be tough moving to a somewhat slower phone, but having a working recovery to backup, and flash my ROMs as updates occur is much more important to me
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Given the lack of a working recovery at this point. I'm giving serious consideration to picking up a N4 as my primary, and keeping my AHD as a backup.
If you read the reviews on the N4, in spite of the newer hardware, it still gets spanked by the One X, and the S3. HERE on Anandtech.
Knowing that my phone spanks both the OneX as well as the S3 like a red headed step child, it's going to be tough moving to a somewhat slower phone, but having a working recovery to backup, and flash my ROMs as updates occur is much more important to me
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Everything I have read says that it's better than the S3 and One X. I know Hashcode will get a recovery worked out. I am also annoying Moto on twitter and their live chat. So we will see if they ever unlock this bootloader.
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Everything I have read says that it's better than the S3 and One X. I know Hashcode will get a recovery worked out. I am also annoying Moto on twitter and their live chat. So we will see if they ever unlock this bootloader.
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lol read my hits @motorola. I try to spank them daily. Remember when tweeting them to use #motofail lol
As to the N4 being better than the One X and S3, read the link. The only thing it beats the S3 and One X is in gaming, and as I've said before, that's what my XBox is for, not my phone
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lol read my hits @motorola. I try to spank them daily. Remember when tweeting them to use #motofail lol
As to the N4 being better than the One X and S3, read the link. The only thing it beats the S3 and One X is in gaming, and as I've said before, that's what my XBox is for, not my phone
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Ah, do you see any chance of us getting the bootloader unlocked? It looked like Matt was making good progress, I'm guessing that is when he bricked his phone, although I dont know for sure. Or do you think this phone will end up getting left behind completely. I really like this phone, but I am tired of moto already. Seriously, coming out with a dev version 4 months after the retail???? With NO word it will ever come out. That is absolute bs. At least let us trade in out retail version for the dev version (obviously with a small upgrade fee, maybe 50-100 bucks). I would be fine with that and it would be do able for them.
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Ah, do you see any chance of us getting the bootloader unlocked? It looked like Matt was making good progress, I'm guessing that is when he bricked his phone, although I dont know for sure. Or do you think this phone will end up getting left behind completely. I really like this phone, but I am tired of moto already. Seriously, coming out with a dev version 4 months after the retail???? With NO word it will ever come out. That is absolute bs. At least let us trade in out retail version for the dev version (obviously with a small upgrade fee, maybe 50-100 bucks). I would be fine with that and it would be do able for them.
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I don't know wtf Moto is up to lately?!?
I was reading that there's a "brick wall" between Google and Moto, meaning that Google bought them for their patents, and they refuse to show any bias towards them in fear of pissing off other phone manufacturers.
I sure wish Google would rethink this strategy, and start building phones that really blow anything else out of the water.
They have the OS, and they now own a company that has the "potential" to build the best phones out, yet they keep frigging things up.
I know I'll never purchase another Moto phone until/unless they start rethinking their strategy, and at the very least stop encrypting the signatures for the bootloaders.
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I don't know wtf Moto is up to lately?!?
I was reading that there's a "brick wall" between Google and Moto, meaning that Google bought them for their patents, and they refuse to show any bias towards them in fear of pissing off other phone manufacturers.
I sure wish Google would rethink this strategy, and start building phones that really blow anything else out of the water.
They have the OS, and they now own a company that has the "potential" to build the best phones out, yet they keep frigging things up.
I know I'll never purchase another Moto phone until/unless they start rethinking their strategy, and at the very least stop encrypting the signatures for the bootloaders.
Just my .02c
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Yea I read that also, I also read the that "brick wall" may, just may, be full of holes lol
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Yea I read that also, I also read the that "brick wall" may, just may, be full of holes lol
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Let's hope that no one starts sticking their thumbs in those holes lol
LG phone? You know that build quality is about on par with a fake Chinese triple sim yPhone... forget it...
Ill buy another phone when it can be converted to a laptop with the whole bundle costing under $300.
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LG phone? You know that build quality is about on par with a fake Chinese triple sim yPhone... forget it...
Ill buy another phone when it can be converted to a laptop with the whole bundle costing under $300.
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From reviews, it suppose to be pretty high quality. Also is suppose to feel nice in the hand. With that said, still a good point and something to look for.
LG's build quailty is under-rated. Same as with any hobby or whatever you call this phone obsession. People look at price and give it a bad name. I think LG started turning the corner with the Nitro. It was a solid phone. Nothing compares to Moto though with build quality. But I think LG beats Samsung and HTC.
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LG phone? You know that build quality is about on par with a fake Chinese triple sim yPhone... forget it...
Ill buy another phone when it can be converted to a laptop with the whole bundle costing under $300.
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Yeah ummm OK. Google is going to allow LG to build them a cheap azz phone as their flagship Nexus device?!?
And keep holding your breath for that bundle under $300.00 lol
Sent from my A H Delicious Maxxx!
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Yeah ummm OK. Google is going to allow LG to build them a cheap azz phone as their flagship Nexus device
And keep holding your breath for that bundle under $300.00 lol
Sent from my A H Delicious Maxxx!
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I have had lg phones back in the day that crapped out on me, BUT my roommate has an lg phone and it has been a great phone for him.
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I have had lg phones back in the day that crapped out on me, BUT my roommate has an lg phone and it has been a great phone for him.
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Yeah, while I'm not a big fan of LG devices, the N4 was built to Google's specs, not LG's.
For soljagirl to say otherwise was ludicrous lol
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Yeah, while I'm not a big fan of LG devices, the N4 was built to Google's specs, not LG's.
For soljagirl to say otherwise was ludicrous lol
Sent from my A H Delicious Maxxx!
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Not to mention there is no way any of us have actually used the device yet. I did see a review where the back was already cracked though. Not a good sign, but could also just be a freak accident.
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Not to mention there is no way any of us have actually used the device yet. I did see a review where the back was already cracked though. Not a good sign, but could also just be a freak accident.
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Anandtech's Performance review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review
Their "Closer Look" review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6419/nexus-4-and-nexus-10-a-closer-look
The back is made of glass, the one big negative if you're one not to use a case.
Like no one learned anything from the mistakes of the IPhone/IPod?!?
Sent from my A H Delicious Maxxx!
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Anandtech's Performance review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review
Their "Closer Look" review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6419/nexus-4-and-nexus-10-a-closer-look
The back is made of glass, the one big negative if you're one not to use a case.
Like no one learned anything from the mistakes of the IPhone/IPod?!?
Sent from my A H Delicious Maxxx!
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I wish I could send my Atrix HD to google and get a good percentage off on this phone lol. I am over not being able to flash away. That is a big reason I got an android, I wanted to learn to develop roms. Unfortunately I feel that is much harder on a locked down device lol
Oh I'm staying. Don't need the nexus 4. Very happy with my Had.
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Oh I'm staying. Don't need the nexus 4. Very happy with my Had.
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Haha I agree, I will be giving it a few more months! I have decided to wait lol
I'll definitely be sticking with the Atrix HD. I was a flashaholic on my Atrix 4G so I was disappointed that this phone has a locked down bootloader. On the other hand, I've had absolutely no complaints about this phone especially where battery life is concerned with the EB40. Having all the power that this phone has to offer with excellent battery life is just what I needed. This phone has completely replaced my computers altogether. As for the bootloader, Hashcode has already done tremendous work on getting safestrap working for our devices. Why worry about a locked bootloader when we can get around it with safestrap? Isn't the point of an unlocked bootloader to get a custom recovery for flashing and isn't that what safestrap hopes to do without the need for unlocking the bootloader? I won't be giving this phone up anytime soon and I look forward to getting a Paranoid Android build going for it.
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