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First off, I'm in Canada so I would be buying the device from Rogers when it is released soon (if that matters)
Is there anyway to take the UI that Samsung has on the phone and replace it with the standard Android look? Would I have to root the phone and load a specific rom to get that option or would it be available by default?
Thanks for the info
Not available by default, you get Samsung's TouchWiz. Many of us download LauncherPro or ADW to replace it.
To get stock Android it would require flashing a ROM. I haven't followed the ROM development that closely but at least one ROM over there claims no TouchWiz.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773082
I think you mean the Home page, right?
There's several alternatives, like PandaHome, Home ++ and others.
I use PandaHome, works great for me, but looks around and try them all.
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Not available by default, you get Samsung's TouchWiz. Many of us download LauncherPro or ADW to replace it.
To get stock Android it would require flashing a ROM. I haven't followed the ROM development that closely but at least one ROM over there claims no TouchWiz.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773082
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That is a great rom that has very little touchwiz left in it. Only issue with it is GPS is not currently working at all.
As was said before launcherpro is a great alternative, and then there are other apps you can use to replace samsungs stock music, calendar and browser.
Keep in mind that all the Touchwiz/homescreen implementations have been slightly different on all versions of the Galaxy S, so you may be surprised by what Rogers brings to the phone.
I like the look of touch wiz and the stock android launcher doesn't have any more functionality. But it may feel snappier.
I'd suggest a market app like panda home, ADW or Launcher pro.
The roms without touchwiz are not complete yet. It does work on the vibrant though. I'd be interested to see how the rogers cappy differs from att. And if we can get that firmware.
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yet another canuck here, also going to pick up the phone from rogers.
I heard that rogers will remove the front camera so no video calling will be possible. I am a total noob when it comes to this stuff but would it be possible to use the rear cam for video calling?
You may find some software to support that, but how will you see the person you're talking to?
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Neither does the us version.
I havent seen an app that allows for video calling from the rear camera......
bah that is not good, not good at all!
and i didnt even think about the other person not seeing me, valid point.
I wonder if there is a way i can just get the phone, sell it, buy one from bell and use that.
Would i need to unlock the bell phone to work on the rogers network?
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Would i need to unlock the bell phone to work on the rogers network?
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Yes, but fortunately unlocking the Galaxy S in any form is easy ...
Hi, I'm going to buy a Samsung Captivate unlock coz I'm using T-Mobile right now. But before buying it I have some questions to make sure that I'm not gonna regret of buying it.
1. What's version of Android it running ? I know it comes out with 2.1 but somebody said that It already updates to Froyo.
2. Will it be upgraded to Froyo or Gingerbread ? and can I get that update officially with my phone unlocked ?
3. I heard that AT&T restricted the Market and some Apps, so what's exactly that restriction about and can I get rid of that ?
4. Is there any custom ROM for this phone and what's the best ?
I really love the design of this phone and the spec is really good too but I also afraid of the AT&T restriction and the phone's OS won't be upgraded. There is noway I buy a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S coz it looks like the iPhone 3GS's clone .
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Hi, I'm going to buy a Samsung Captivate unlock coz I'm using T-Mobile right now. But before buying it I have some questions to make sure that I'm not gonna regret of buying it.
1. What's version of Android it running ? I know it comes out with 2.1 but somebody said that It already updates to Froyo.
2. Will it be upgraded to Froyo or Gingerbread ? and can I get that update officially with my phone unlocked ?
3. I heard that AT&T restricted the Market and some Apps, so what's exactly that restriction about and can I get rid of that ?
4. Is there any custom ROM for this phone and what's the best ?
I really love the design of this phone and the spec is really good too but I also afraid of the AT&T restriction and the phone's OS won't be upgraded. There is noway I buy a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S coz it looks like the iPhone 3GS's clone .
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1. 2.1 comes stock, and that's all that is available officially.
2. Maybe, we hope to get something. If so, you should be able to get it.
3. Yes, there are market restrictions. Go to Captivate, Android Dev sections and there's lots of custom tools for removing restrictions, along with lots of custom ROM's, ie, Phoenix, Cog, Darky, Doc's, etc.
4. See above. I personally like all that I have tried, so I usually flash a few times a week.
You really want a captivate over a nexus s or g2? They're probably better phones.
Yes, like I said I love the design of the Captivate. The Nexus S doesn't use the Gorilla Glass Display that is a negative point make me don't like it. Btw, when I use a new custom ROM, I don't need to unlock my phone again, do I ?
you do realize that when you use a captivate on tmobile, you dont get 3g?
Personally i would jump ALL over the nexus S. Its the captivate on steroids. But DO stay away from the G2....as far as i know its dead past 2.2 because it doesnt have the prerequesites for 2.3 and higher (1ghz processor)
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you do realize that when you use a captivate on tmobile, you dont get 3g?
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Thanks, I know that, currently I don't use 3G. I'm gonna make a new contract plan next month and I'm gonna get the Dell Venue because I love Windows Phone. However, I love to play with Android too that's why I wanna get one Android phone and I see that the Captivate has a really good design.
i have the DX and somewhat knowledgeable about ROMs and perks of each. unfortunately i am not too sure how the D1 and different ROMS would work since the radio is on Metro vs the standard Verizon that this phone is built on.
so my question is, which ROMs will work for her phone. also, will i be able to install any ROM i want without loosing the flash to Metro that i had to pay for and drive an hour out of town to get done?
this is my only concern is that whatever i install will break the flash and i do NOT want to screw this up.
i am seeing a lot of Camera application freezes and becoming a nucence. would it be just as easy to reinstall the Camera apk or is installing a different ROM even an option?
thanks for your support guys and gals. . . cheers
i say still try and root, flash a rom. i just flashed cy 6.1.2 stable. and i am going tomorrow to get metro flashed. but i say flash it cause you can allways re flash the stock .sbf and move on wit no problems.
but also did u flash metro or did you go pay to get it done. cause im tryna figure out how to do it myself. cause those guys had to learn it somewhere you feel me. so if you kno how please shoot me the steps so i can do mine. thanks in advance bro and hope you get it flashed.
i paid 50 bucks to get it done. at that price, why not. plus i have no time with a 5 month old baby. seems to be running ok though.
here is a link someone sent me that might help you out...
just asking, why do you think you can sbf it and re root and install custom ROM and it will still work on Metro? when you flash a phone to work on this provider, dont you change a bunch of things on the phone in order to make it work? i dont know how to do any of that and if i screwed up this phone and the wife was without it, she would flip out. i am sure you can appreciate that.
with that said, i would like to know if reinstalling the camera.apk would fix any problems.
maybe i will install Launcher Pro tonight for her vs ADW and see what happens. this isnt going to change the way the phone works.. only the way it looks.
just called some random person on Craigslist and they said there is only a few ROM's out there that will work with the Metro PCS.
is this true?
i would love to get her off this ROM, she has called me 3 times today complaining about the freezing and rebooting randomly. i would be upset too..
a little help please.
Ok so Im no genius like most of u are in here, but this is my 3rd HTC device and the only one which doesnt have root or custom roms so far. I just wanted to ask if you guys believe that there will be root for s-off or custom roms any sooner or is it wort hit just to buy an Atrix?? I need your opinion, please and thank you?
P.S: If any of you don't feel like answering or sharing your opinion & wanna be a smart-bottom by directing me to a link or by asking me to google it my humble request is to keep ur 0.2cents to yourself & learn to be humble and caring. Thanks.
yes. and if you had read through threads about root then you would already know that s-off IS devices have been rooted some time ago. custom roms are around but very few and not very good. the problem is getting s-off for root available for for those of us who dont have s-off by default or have access to an xtc clip to s-off our IS's.
p.s. nothings impossible on xda dev ^o^
p.p.s. if you dont need the power then considering IS gingerbread update is flowing out now id say its more than enough. unless ofcourse your given an awsome deal on the atrix
Remember that Incredible 2 is out now and is amajor phone on Verizon. This will be a popular phone and I have faith that XDA members here will find a way to put S-Off.
I sure hope someone takes it upon themselves to get the Incredible 2/S off the ground. I love the phone, solid as a rock, and fast, but I'd really like to eventually be able to over/undervolt, flash minus-bloatware roms, etc.
junooni.1980 said:
Ok so Im no genius like most of u are in here, but this is my 3rd HTC device and the only one which doesnt have root or custom roms so far. I just wanted to ask if you guys believe that there will be root for s-off or custom roms any sooner or is it wort hit just to buy an Atrix?? I need your opinion, please and thank you?
P.S: If any of you don't feel like answering or sharing your opinion & wanna be a smart-bottom by directing me to a link or by asking me to google it my humble request is to keep ur 0.2cents to yourself & learn to be humble and caring. Thanks.
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Upgrade to Gingerbread and run Gingerbreak. There you go.. root!!
I used SOC-1.9.x with factory 2.2.1 and it worked out. But the Superuser kept crashing while root permissions were being asked by apps. Found a workaround: cleaning the Superuser data each time I wanted to run an app.. but that's lame.
I'm in the same boat as the op... will be upgrading in the next month and with BELL... so the only 2 phones im looking are the incredible or the atrix...
i like htc and if i get the IS, this will be my 3rd htc with sleak UI and stable without too much bloatware and standard hardware ( by today's std ) , no root as of yet.
vs the atrix top of the line hardware and futureproof ( well at least for the next yr before new lines of multicores phones) but major bloatware which cannot be uninstalled, locked bootloader so cant get rid of those bloatwares.. apparently some ppl experiencing lags (something which i would never believe until i saw some videos) with the live wallpaper...
At this point, i would tend to get the IS but if both can be flashed with a custom rom ( ie. without motoblur **** ), i would jump on the atrix
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Upgrade to Gingerbread and run Gingerbreak. There you go.. root!!
I used SOC-1.9.x with factory 2.2.1 and it worked out. But the Superuser kept crashing while root permissions were being asked by apps. Found a workaround: cleaning the Superuser data each time I wanted to run an app.. but that's lame.
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are you referring to rooting the atrix?
the biggest problem we will find is that although the device is popular, it's a midrange android device, and many of the developers are not picking it up to work on it. after all when there are high end devices around the corner, why would they?
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the biggest problem we will find is that although the device is popular, it's a midrange android device, and many of the developers are not picking it up to work on it. after all when there are high end devices around the corner, why would they?
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Right. There's a few problems:
1) Lots are holding out on Sensation
2) IS is a midrange device making it only semipopular. HTC has a solid lineup, but this divides forces. If you take Samsung where they had the SGS 1 and SGS2 this year, that's basically their main lineup. Expect concentrated development, but I don't know what to expect here.
3) Not sure for me whether I should pick up an IS or wait for Sensation. I'd have to wait for an 850/1900 sensation and nothing's even announced yet... so given that it's usually a minimal 3 months delay, I won't be getting this phone til close to Christmas I bet.... sigh.
Basically we're in no mans land.
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Upgrade to Gingerbread and run Gingerbreak. There you go.. root!!
I used SOC-1.9.x with factory 2.2.1 and it worked out. But the Superuser kept crashing while root permissions were being asked by apps. Found a workaround: cleaning the Superuser data each time I wanted to run an app.. but that's lame.
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If your phone is S-On, the Gingerbreak don't give you ROOT, even if you upgraded to the official 2.3 Ginderbread.
To get S-Off you need a XTC-Clips.
thanks for all your opinions fellas! for the sights and sound feels like IS didn't appeal alot to the devs so Im guessing there wont be any development on IS, so it seems wise to say good bye to IS until a new HTC device comes out & perhaps its time to say hello to the Atrix as it's got custom rom and it was rooted before it even came out. But Thanks anyways,...Imma put up my phone for sale, Im in Toronto, Canada If any one interested please PM me. Thanks.
Hey guys! My contract from verizon is running up and I desperately need a new phone; but I still have unlimited 4G and I'm not going to let Verizon contract me into another phone and lose it! HAH What a joke, 2gb a month for the "cheapest" option? No thank you. So I went ahead and ordered a mint condition Droid 4 for a nice price It should arrive this Friday
I'm upgrading from a Thunderbolt (the old girl served me well) and I cannot, and I can't stress this enough, cannot WAIT to have a physical keyboard back. I used to to be a Blackberry Curve and Tour owner back in the day before I made the switch to Android.
My question to you guys is, what ROM should I run? I want a full experience, so no non-working mechanics so I will be staying away from the broken camera roms, at least til they're stable. Also, what other things should I know before getting my new phone?
Thanks, and I hope to be part of the xda droid 4 owning family in a couple of days
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Hey guys! My contract from verizon is running up and I desperately need a new phone; but I still have unlimited 4G and I'm not going to let Verizon contract me into another phone and lose it! HAH What a joke, 2gb a month for the "cheapest" option? No thank you. So I went ahead and ordered a mint condition Droid 4 for a nice price It should arrive this Friday
I'm upgrading from a Thunderbolt (the old girl served me well) and I cannot, and I can't stress this enough, cannot WAIT to have a physical keyboard back. I used to to be a Blackberry Curve and Tour owner back in the day before I made the switch to Android.
My question to you guys is, what ROM should I run? I want a full experience, so no non-working mechanics so I will be staying away from the broken camera roms, at least til they're stable. Also, what other things should I know before getting my new phone?
Thanks, and I hope to be part of the xda droid 4 owning family in a couple of days
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If your looking for bug free myfishbear's Eclipse ROM is probably the way to go. As for other things to know, you will need to root and install safestrap recovery in order to install ROMs. I recommend the Droid 4 Utility ICS Only. That will allow you to root and also has a function to install safestrap.
And welcome to the D4 forums!
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If your looking for bug free myfishbear's Eclipse ROM is probably the way to go. As for other things to know, you will need to root and install safestrap recovery in order to install ROMs. I recommend the Droid 4 Utility ICS Only. That will allow you to root and also has a function to install safestrap.
And welcome to the D4 forums!
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Thank you! I was seriously expecting responses like "buy a better phone" or something. Quick question; do I have to flash radios like I did with the Thunderbolt? If I get stock gingerbread OS, should I upgrade to stock ICS and then root? Or will it not make a difference?
Thanks!
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Thank you! I was seriously expecting responses like "buy a better phone" or something. Quick question; do I have to flash radios like I did with the Thunderbolt? If I get stock gingerbread OS, should I upgrade to stock ICS and then root? Or will it not make a difference?
Thanks!
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I love my D4 You do not need to flash radios or anything like that. If it still has GB on it I would go ahead and update to ICS first and then root. That way you don't have to mess with root keeper or anything like that.
Thanks for the reply again! I will upgrade to ICS then root
It'll be here tomorrow, can't wait!
I suggest rooting stock and freezing a bunch of the garbage ICS apps that you will never use.
Fwiw, I've recently bought a used D4 for the same reason
(High 5!) And have not installed a new rom. I've just rooted, mainly so I could freeze a few things and use rom toolbox's ad blocker. Not to take anything away from the devs who do great work, but personally I'm totally happy with the (rooted) stock ICS. I know JB is supposed to be snappier, but I'm not seeing any sluggishness anyway. Welcome to the D4 world-the keyboard is AWESOME, really.
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I'd prefer to install Eclipse rom because there is no bloat to freeze and it's really fast. Also, it gets rid of a few spy tools Moto and Verizon placed on the stock roms.
Moreover, when using safestrap (which is needed to flash a rom) you don't have to worry about screwing up your system because it prevents you from messing up the stock rom.
FedEx is terrible. My phone won't be here til tomorrow
Anyway.
I think I will try and use Eclpise first. It looks like what I am after
Another vote for Eclipse here
The JB ROMs, CM10, AOKP etc. are all very nice, but missing crucial features like camera flash and the HDMI port.
Does eclipse introduce any bugs? If it gives stock functionality without the stock bloat, I'll be changing my mind...
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Does eclipse introduce any bugs? If it gives stock functionality without the stock bloat, I'll be changing my mind...
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Not noticed any bugs.
I find the (optional, flashed separately) speed tweaks to really hurt battery life, but the basic ROM (plus olegfusion's GSM patch) works just fine.
Thanks! In that case I'll probably try it out when my semester ends and I have time to tinker.
I want to tag in here, I recently purchased this phone and im from the Netherlands. I read that the Droid4 will have stock JB (4.2) support. The thing is, I am dutch and the phone isn't unlocked. Now i've been trying to understand if the update is possible for me and if the update is out allready (cant find anything about it)
Little background info:
I've had the desire Z when it intially launched and it broke down last month. Been using the desire for a month and im going nuts! Really missing a physical HD and when I started googling it seemde that the droid4 is made for me, but not being sold in stores in the NL.
It depends... what are running right now? what are you looking for? performance or battery life??????????????
I have not seen any news that this phone will get 4.2, but Motorola currently has the device listed among those that will receive 4.1 at some point (no date scheduled, though). There has not yet been an official stock release of any form of Jellybean to the Droid 4 so far.
Sorry for the late reply, I got the phone now and I saw that Hashtag is one of the core dev's for 4.1/4.2 AOKP/CM10. The phone is unlocked when upgrading to ICS via WiFi, so thats not a worry. The problem is that I cant get the data to work, ive posted about it here
Fixed! Was blind and didnt see this post Ideal for GSM users
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Sorry for the late reply, I got the phone now and I saw that Hashtag is one of the core dev's for 4.1/4.2 AOKP/CM10. The phone is unlocked when upgrading to ICS via WiFi, so thats not a worry. The problem is that I cant get the data to work, ive posted about it here
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I've never had much luck with GSM/UMTS data on Hashcode's ROMs. Stick with something like Eclipse ICS for now until Hashcode's ROMs mature a bit.
if I were you, I'd also go for the eclipse rom.
I had installed the jb rom at first, but somewhen it got really slow and apps began to crash, I also lost connection with my carrier more often then with the eclipse rom that I've changed to now.
captainstarbucs said:
Hey guys! My contract from verizon is running up and I desperately need a new phone; but I still have unlimited 4G and I'm not going to let Verizon contract me into another phone and lose it! HAH What a joke, 2gb a month for the "cheapest" option? No thank you. So I went ahead and ordered a mint condition Droid 4 for a nice price It should arrive this Friday
I'm upgrading from a Thunderbolt (the old girl served me well) and I cannot, and I can't stress this enough, cannot WAIT to have a physical keyboard back. I used to to be a Blackberry Curve and Tour owner back in the day before I made the switch to Android.
My question to you guys is, what ROM should I run? I want a full experience, so no non-working mechanics so I will be staying away from the broken camera roms, at least til they're stable. Also, what other things should I know before getting my new phone?
Thanks, and I hope to be part of the xda droid 4 owning family in a couple of days
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I just recently got a used Droid 4 myself, and I have to agree with ECLIPSE. It was the first rom I installed (immediately after I got the phone), and I rooted/safestrapped with the ICS Utility. It was an absolute breeze, and ECLIPSE is running wonderfully.