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Engadget diss XDA???

I was hearing a podcast from engadget and I heard them say xda trolls thats pretty F up I must say since their "professionals". one thing is just not liking what ever phone nobody cares but dissing a whole developer site its pretty stupid. Sorry about the stupid thread but I had to get it out of my chess

Lack of fact checking and sourcing as well as some, how shall we put it "bias" are strengths at Engadget:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614946
Mike

mikechannon said:
Lack of fact checking and sourcing as well as some, how shall we put it "bias" are strengths at Engadget:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614946
Mike
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I agree 100% with bias to me thats entertainment and blogging doesn't affect me. then one of them call nokia fans s60 trolls I said ok thats mess up but I know theirs some irritating s60 fans like windows mobile etc etc list never ends so maybe he took a small jab at a annoying reader. But dissing a developer website was just damn right wrong Especially when this people work so hard on what they do. I'm still heated over that comment.

josemedina1983 said:
I was hearing a podcast from engadget and I heard them say xda trolls thats pretty F up I must say since their "professionals". one thing is just not liking what ever phone nobody cares but dissing a whole developer site its pretty stupid. Sorry about the stupid thread but I had to get it out of my chess
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Link?
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/23/engadget-podcast-193-04-23-2010/ go to 38.10 maybe i heard wrong and i hope i did.....

josemedina1983 said:
I was hearing a podcast from engadget and I heard them say xda trolls thats pretty F up I must say since their "professionals". one thing is just not liking what ever phone nobody cares but dissing a whole developer site its pretty stupid. Sorry about the stupid thread but I had to get it out of my chess
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Nah, that wasn't being said:
They are talking about android and how it isn't running natively.
Then one of the talkers is flipping through a XDA thread, and it doesn't look like it's done (running Android natively) "they are arguing now" where the other talker says: "he trolls XDA".
Nothing special, engadget didn't call us trolls.
Next time you post accusations please ensure you heard correctly..

What counts as trolling?

If I were to in insult the HTC HD2 would I be considered trolling?
If I praised it instead, would I be considered trolling to?
If took a dump on the iPhone, would I be a troll?
If I praised the iPhone, would I be a troll?

Well, I think the context certainly helps in determining whether something is trolling, as is the way one says it. If you talk about how great the iPhone is in a respectful manner and in the General Discussion subforum or the Off-Topic subforum, that's not really trolling at all. If you go to the HD2 subforum and make a thread that's about how the iPhone is so much better than Windows Mobile, and how the HD2 sucks so much, there's no doubt about it that you're trolling.
It's the same if you go to an iPhone forum and create threads talking about how the HD2 is so much better than their stupid iPhones. All four situations you listed could be done in a manner that would be considered offensive/trolling, and all four could be done in a respectful manner in the appropriate places and be more or less acceptable for that forum.

I think DaveTheTytNIIGuy pretty much sums it up. The context is all important.
I tend to think of Trolls as folk who are being unnecessarily black and white about something and posting it where common sense would tell you it will stir up animosity rather than measured discussion.
Another mark of Trolls for me is their past posting history. Do they always post controversial, argument-enciting posts, or are they most often calm sensible posters. Just sometimes what can look like a Troll post is actually a bit of a vent by a normally sensible person who for whatever reason has become very frustrated.
A person with only 10 posts all of which stir up controversy is probably a Troll.
A person with a few hundred calm, sensible posts and one that is "having-a-go" at something, is not a Troll and should be read carefully without letting your emotions run high.
JMHO
Mike

IMHO, I would add to that;
excessive use of inappropriate language (cursing/swearing)
gender and ethnic profiling
provoking/inciting comments about a fellow member and/or viewpoint
intentionally fueling an already volatile discussion
Essentially ... a 'NO' answer to this question: "If I respond in this manner, will it contribute to the discussion at hand in a positive fashion?"

As it would happen, we have the perfect example
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669335

XDA devs is one of the few forums that doesn't warrant my trolly side.
I see no reason to rile anyone up here, we're all in the same boat and are generally intelligent people who are on a quest for knowledge, holding their devices in high regard!
That said, OP, you sound like a clueless 12-year old spamming newbie! Only an 1337-speaking loser would post an iPhone thread on XDA whining about how Apple is better than HTC, and place it in the wrong forum. LAME. You then continued to bump your thread with a double-posted off-topic "YOU ALL SUCK" message in all caps, uninteresting with a mean tone of voice, with no information that was true.
You must now apologize to everyone in this forum, post something relevent, then give up your AOL internet account. After that, you must bust up your modem then eat it, and go stand in the middle of an intersection. If that doesn't work, then jump into a bathtub holding your monitor.
After posting something relevant, you must never post again (take your crap somewhere else), and go play with your Dress-Up Barbie because your IQ is about 6. Get a life, man! I pity your family! Just please, do us all a favor and jump into some industrial equipment.
Thank you for your cooperation

denco7 said:
As it would happen, we have the perfect example
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669335
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Good 'ol trolling!!! What a joy

The other day I installed that selfaware.cab from here and my HD2 shouted '******!' at someone using an iPhone in the street
Needless to say, the iPhone user went into the fetal position and burst into tears.

SMS92 said:
The other day I installed that selfaware.cab from here and my HD2 shouted '******!' at someone using an iPhone in the street
Needless to say, the iPhone user went into the fetal position and burst into tears.
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hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha!! that made my monday!!

This thread is fake and gay.
That's some classic trolling.

I have an HD2, my boyfriend has an iPhone.. things are complicated..
Seriously though, if anyone actually tries to claim that the iPhone is "better" than the HD2, they are either:
- An apple fanboy
- Ignorant
- A troll
- An engineer (i.e someone who gets off on the iPhone's build and design quality and completely ignores its total lack of functionality.)
My boyfriend falls into the 1st and 4th category. He tells me about the iPhone's beautifully machined buttons, how they cost $1 per button as opposed to the $0.02 that other phone companies spend. But then he has to sign off skype whenever he wants to check his train times, and then he cries.

RickAstley said:
I have an HD2, my boyfriend has an iPhone.. things are complicated..
Seriously though, if anyone actually tries to claim that the iPhone is "better" than the HD2, they are either:
- An apple fanboy
- Ignorant
- A troll
- An engineer (i.e someone who gets off on the iPhone's build and design quality and completely ignores its total lack of functionality.)
My boyfriend falls into the 1st and 4th category. He tells me about the iPhone's beautifully machined buttons, how they cost $1 per button as opposed to the $0.02 that other phone companies spend. But then he has to sign off skype whenever he wants to check his train times, and then he cries.
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Rick Astley has a "boyfriend" that like Iphones!!!
That explains a lot of the 80's behavior

RickAstley said:
But then he has to sign off skype whenever he wants to check his train times, and then he cries.
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Keep an eye on him my friend -- just the other day I had some random sonofabitch message me on Skype with "r u in2 ifonez? u gt cam?" -- before I could even respond with a mandatory pwning he had signed off, most likely to check train times.
You may have stated various times over the years that he was a guy who didn't warrant any 'giving up' on, but that was before the iPhone was invented and he got hold of one.
Gotta make you understand, Mr. Astley, the iPhone SUCKS.

SMS92 said:
Keep an eye on him my friend -- just the other day I had some random sonofabitch message me on Skype with "r u in2 ifonez? u gt cam?" -- before I could even respond with a mandatory pwning he had signed off, most likely to check train times.
You may have stated various times over the years that he was a guy who didn't warrant any 'giving up' on, but that was before the iPhone was invented and he got hold of one.
Gotta make you understand, Mr. Astley, the iPhone SUCKS.
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Second that!!
This is how my cry sounded when I was offered an Iphone insted os a WinMO phone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSI0YjPFPoo&feature=related

JAguirre1231 said:
This thread is fake and gay..
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We created it to keep you happy and make you feel at home!
Have some nice Trolling back!
Mike

mikechannon said:
We created it to keep you happy and make you feel at home!
Have some nice Trolling back!
Mike
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ouch!

mikechannon said:
We created it to keep you happy and make you feel at home!
Have some nice Trolling back!
Mike
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It's the thought that counts Even if the thought was stupid.
Trolling is too much fun sometimes.

JAguirre1231 said:
It's the thought that counts Even if the thought was stupid.
Trolling is too much fun sometimes.
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But stupid thoughts are the best, putting them into practice is even better

stylez said:
But stupid thoughts are the best, putting them into practice is even better
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Only on video, which leads into the next common trolling phrase:
Pics or gtfo.

I do have difficulty sometimes with this topic. I oftentimes just post my true opinions and people have called it trolling. I sometimes can filter but sometimes I'm just putting in my two sense. I saw the thread on Iceland photos and wanted to post my thoughts on Iceland that I don't really care if that country sank and was completely eliminated, but I stopped myself, thinking that it would be misinterpreted as trolling.

I Won The Windows Phone Challenge, But Lost “Just Because”

http://skattertech.com/2012/03/i-won-the-windows-phone-challenge-but-lost-just-because/
Note: This is also posted on Reddit. Just wanted to get the word out. May be an isolated incident, but in all likelihood, it probably is not.
EDIT: woah dudes, was not me , though I doubt they could beat my epic touch. Found the story and though more people would like to know.

Like WTF dude ?
MS people are in general some arrogant kids (my opinion).
I smoked the Lumnia 800 with my SGS2 at work, and the lumnia 800 owner got cocky and started accusing me of cheating and hacking, he actually got totally "off-topic" with me, I guess it was "just-because"
That confirmed, once again to me, that most MS Phone owners are narrow minded, not open to other possibilities, and well, don't want to hear about other platforms, not even try them out, even if there are hard proof of the other platform being better
And yeah, MS challenges, they make their own rules as-they-go it seems, I've been in a similar contest, won it by the rules, but lost because my phone was rooted (ran stock 2.3.5 rom on SGS2 with root wich was laggy compared to 4.0.3)
Just my thoughts out loud

Bad ploy by that location and I hope that manager gets in trouble for breaking policy. That was a stupid challenge for them to use honestly. I love wp7 but I'm not afraid to admit that they are wrong here.

Honestly they should have given you the prize, or even a second shot at it. They cannot leave it at "just because"....
They're a global brand and their reasoning is that of a 5 year old....

Goes right along with some biased, anti-android PR MS has been spreading over the past few months. Their plan was stack the odds as they obviously couldn't just give out laptops left and right, but as you won by their own rules the refusal to pay out is ridiculous.
You're a nicer guy than I am though; I would have called up the local news channels consumer reporters and gotten a crew down there asap, or at least tried, just loudly enough that all the customers in the store can hear. They could give me my prize then, or they could do it later after their store gets some bad press that I'm sure would make its way up the chain until someone a bit higher found out. Heck, maybe the manager decides to call the cops because you're making a "scene." "Customer Arrested at Microsoft Store for Trying to Claim Prize;" would have been worth it
Any, as someone mentioned on the blog the $1000 they saved on the laptop--less considering its value versus price--will not be offsetting the negative press this generates by word of mouth. Sucks you got the shaft like that.

I felt like I struck gold since I knew I already had two weather widgets on my home screen
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I don't know if thats was allowed or not. The MS people could also put live Tiles at the Home screen but they didn't.
Well, I have mixed opinions here. In a way, you actually won as no one mentioned about the home screen widgets and if they (either you or MS) have already put it in the home screen but on the other hand, this contest should be like display weather of 2 GIVEN cities, more like searching it.

Engadget picked up on it.
http://m.engadget.com/default/class...e-for-galaxy-nexus-owner/&icid=eng_latest_art

My brother did the same with the 4s, he technically won
But im going to
Go using my nexus

I read the story earlier today on twitter. You are famous dude!

85gallon said:
Engadget picked up on it.
http://m.engadget.com/default/class...e-for-galaxy-nexus-owner/&icid=eng_latest_art
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Every site on the frigging net has picked up on it, which really is too bad, because WP is actually a good OS and deserves some of the credit. This whole challenge is just stupid to begin with.

Toss3 said:
Every site on the frigging net has picked up on it, which really is too bad, because WP is actually a good OS and deserves some of the credit. This whole challenge is just stupid to begin with.
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Either way Both Windows and Android are getting publicity.
I think this issue doesnt necessarily reflect badly on the Windows Phone OS, it does reflect badly on the employees.

So, did they "make it right"?
Sent from my coffee pot.

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inteller said:
oh yes you won, by reducing the security of your device that even Google says is a bad idea (stock OS option or not). Great for you dude.
MS should give you the prize so they can brag that it takes reducing your security to defeat Windows Phone.
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When the rules are not clear there is always room for interpretation.
I dont think he did anything wrong by reducing the security if it wasnt stated that as a specific requirement.
I do agree with you that MS can capitalise on this by saying that you need to reduce your security in order to beat their phone.
As I said, both OSs are getting publicity, what they make of it depends on how they turn it around and yours is a good idea actually!

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"Update: Looks like the gent got an apology, a laptop and a phone out of the deal. And suddenly, all was well in the world."
From the Engadget article.

inteller said:
headline: Microsoft Security team issues prize for showing how NOT to secure your android device
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Would be funny, but I still think the OP should get the prize, since he actually beat WP fair and square (even if he removed a security feature). It is actually MS's fault if they didnt lay down the rules to begin with
It would be a win-win
He gets the phone and the bragging rights (which he already has anyway) and MS/WP gets lots of publicity.
You cant go wrong
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"Update: Looks like the gent got an apology, a laptop and a phone out of the deal. And suddenly, all was well in the world."
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And so everyone is happy

Toss3 said:
Every site on the frigging net has picked up on it, which really is too bad, because WP is actually a good OS and deserves some of the credit. This whole challenge is just stupid to begin with.
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The OS may be good, but the contest is a joke if they aren't going to play fair.
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inteller said:
oh yes you won, by reducing the security of your device that even Google says is a bad idea (stock OS option or not). Great for you dude.
MS should give you the prize so they can brag that it takes reducing your security to defeat Windows Phone.
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How much more secure is having a lockscreen that you touch or slide to unlock vs simply having to power on the phone? It's not as though the Windows phone was password or Pin secured.

Wow fanboys of all OS's, stfu and gtfo. Simple fact is he won.
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Verge fantastic journalism

Seriously after watching this video .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66-4uMQqerA&feature=youtube_gdata_player. I don't remember anyone who covered it so professionally oh well I really enjoyed it..
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I totally agree!

The Verge is awesome. Best Tech site ever...besides XDA of course...

Not to bash on the verge by any means. But its more like Google invited them and did this video as a replacement for the NY event that was cancelled.
I don't see it as journalism. A Google sponsored infomercial is more like it honestly.
Probably did not want to change the launch date. No time to get a another venue & date. Don't want to do webcast event with only a couple people present. Do something like this with the verge.

For unbiased reviews my top sites are :
- Anandtech
- Heelsandtech
- Gigaom
Other than that I take the 2nd tier sites like theverge, engadget, etc with a grain of salt.

I think they must have been invited earlier, maybe last week, and they just asked them not to publish the video until after they announced the device.
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ap3604 said:
For unbiased reviews my top sites are :
- Anandtech
- Heelsandtech
- Gigaom
Other than that I take the 2nd tier sites like theverge, engadget, etc with a grain of salt.
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Anandtech is definitely bias.

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Anandtech is definitely bias.
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you straight crazy son
Anandtech is one of the most unbiased review sites ever. The scientific analysis he does, instead of just simply regurgitating the spec list and saying if he like's it or not the way so many other tech sites do, is above all else.

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Not to bash on the verge by any means. But its more like Google invited them and did this video as a replacement for the NY event that was cancelled.
I don't see it as journalism. A Google sponsored infomercial is more like it honestly.
Probably did not want to change the launch date. No time to get a another venue & date. Don't want to do webcast event with only a couple people present. Do something like this with the verge.
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I highly doubt they recorded that after the event was cancelled. Most likely they were going to release it today whether the event took place or not and released it as soon as they were allowed by Google.
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you straight crazy son
Anandtech is one of the most unbiased review sites ever. The scientific analysis he does, instead of just simply regurgitating the spec list and saying if he like's it or not the way so many other tech sites do, is above all else.
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Anandtech is good at technical reviews but not necessarily real world reviews.

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I agree. Websites that do reviews have to make revenue so they are bias regardless or at least restricted on the amount of negativity, otherwise they won't receive new phones from the same carrier/manufacture in the future.

Lol at people getting mad that review sites are biased. Of course they are! What do you expect, a glorified press release? That's not journalism at all. Journalism is suppose to be critical and investigative.
The only reason Anandtech is unbiased is because their reviews are more like scientific tests: charts, numbers, quantifiable stuff. Once you start asking them whether you like or dislike the phone, it turns BIASED. I personally don't give two ****zus about numbers and graphs. I want an educated opinion from a geek about whether he likes a phone or not, someone who has handled more than one phone and can make comparisons on a whole host of questions.
It's when the fanboys get angry that their baby wasn't reviewed positively that they start screaming bias. As long as reviewers support their opinions in detail and remain respectful (unlike Gizmodo when they **** all over Blackberry for not sending them a review unit or gave their Nokia N8 to a person who could barely type), it's all good. When they act disrespectful and start throwing insults, place double-standards, and have terrible supporting evidence, do you say, now that is TRULLY BIASED BS.
Here are some ****zu-y sites I've come across:
NokiaBlog, WMPowerUser, WPCentral (duh)
AndroidCentral, AndroidCommunity, Android_______ (double duh)
Gizmodo (no allegiance. Just tabloid fare to provoke and garner hits)

katamari201 said:
Lol at people getting mad that review sites are biased. Of course they are! What do you expect, a glorified press release? That's not journalism at all. Journalism is suppose to be critical and investigative.
The only reason Anandtech is unbiased is because their reviews are more like scientific tests: charts, numbers, quantifiable stuff. Once you start asking them whether you like or dislike the phone, it turns BIASED. I personally don't give two ****zus about numbers and graphs. I want an educated opinion from a geek about whether he likes a phone or not, someone who has handled more than one phone and can make comparisons on a whole host of questions.
It's when the fanboys get angry that their baby wasn't reviewed positively that they start screaming bias. As long as reviewers support their opinions in detail and remain respectful (unlike Gizmodo when they **** all over Blackberry for not sending them a review unit or gave their Nokia N8 to a person who could barely type), it's all good. When they act disrespectful and start throwing insults, place double-standards, and have terrible supporting evidence, do you say, now that is TRULLY BIASED BS.
Here are some ****zu-y sites I've come across:
NokiaBlog, WMPowerUser, WPCentral (duh)
AndroidCentral, AndroidCommunity, Android_______ (double duh)
Gizmodo (no allegiance. Just tabloid fare to provoke and garner hits)
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I like watching youtube reviews like MobileTechReview and Pocketnow, although they are bias too it still give enough of a hint about a device. In all honesty, I fear more the elitist group of Android fanboys from the Galaxy Nexus forum section, once they obtain this device and move on to here, I will be making my retreat.

katamari201 said:
The only reason Anandtech is unbiased is because their reviews are more like scientific tests: charts, numbers, quantifiable stuff. Once you start asking them whether you like or dislike the phone, it turns BIASED. I personally don't give two ****zus about numbers and graphs. I want an educated opinion from a geek about whether he likes a phone or not, someone who has handled more than one phone and can make comparisons on a whole host of questions.
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I personally don't give two %#&! about a site that says : "battery life is ok". That doesn't tell me squat.
I would MUCH rather have a scientific study done showing the amount of battery life based on what you were doing the entire time to run it down.
I personally don't give two %#&! about a review site that says: "screen brightness is good". That doesn't do anything for me.
I would MUCH rather have a scientific test done showing the screen brightness in nits so I can compare it against other phones.
I would rather have too much knowledge than not enough and make my own choice based on the knowledge given to me, rather than someone elses opinion who might not have the same preferences I do.
Of course it's helpful to have differing opinions of phones, but most review sites beyond anandtech don't know how to write a real review.

Verge is crap. I sheep infested site. Took it off my favs long time ago and never looked back.

Nice video

Nice sales video and definitely pre-recorded

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Verge is crap. I sheep infested site. Took it off my favs long time ago and never looked back.
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iSheep? The website that has been highly critical of Apple and iOS? You must be confused. Their editor in chief uses a Galaxy Nexus.
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To be fair almost all of the Verge's review/investigative type videos look like this. They spend on a lot of money on their video team apparently.

I enjoyed the video from the Verge and the articles were very well written. They perfectly answered my questions about the lack of an LTE Nexus 4; from Google's standpoint, it makes perfect sense. Shame on you Verizon...
That being said BGR is the BEST! I'm SO joking - In all seriousness, I read a lot of those sites, them formulate my own opinion about how said device stacks up. I rarely take the opinion/bias from one site alone.

Everyone on this planet is subjective. There is no such thing as objective, except when looking at a spec sheet.
I subjectively object to the word journalism being used to describe any review site.

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I like watching youtube reviews like MobileTechReview and Pocketnow, although they are bias too it still give enough of a hint about a device. In all honesty, I fear more the elitist group of Android fanboys from the Galaxy Nexus forum section, once they obtain this device and move on to here, I will be making my retreat.
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And who should that be? And why not just blocking them?

About one of the Neowin webpage admins

Hello, my name is Tom-Helge.
I have a case going on the Neowin forum that i want to share with you. And this post might get a bit long.
I'm gonna explain this to you in the best possible way, so i don't sounds like i'm crazy or anything like that. But the whole case is a mess and it stinks fanboy from an admin a long way.
Let me explain you why.
Ok, the day for me 2 days ago (12.12.2012) started out with commenting on some articles about Apple requiring 30% revenue from Microsoft in SkyDrive and Office 365.
That was all fine and nothing wrong with what i was saying.
Then i suddenly got a personal message from Neobond (one of the admins) witch said that i had got 2 of my comments removed and got a warning for that, because i said some users was idiots. Witch i found very strange.
Because when i went back to see what kind of comments he had removed from me, then it was the comments where i said Apple was the idiots because of how they are and because of some of their policies, not the users as Neobond claims.
I called Apple for idiots because of their 30% revenue policy that is my own opinion. I didn't say anyone was dumb, stupid or idiots because someone liked Apple. I said the way Apple is going is idiotic.
Here is one of the comments i wrote to a user that Neobond removed: If Microsoft is removing SkyDrive or Office 365 from iOS because of this 30% revenue thing, then i recommend you to find someone else to use that isn't idiots.
I think it was that comment that triggered Neobonds actions. But if you read closely, you will see that i'm actually calling Apple for the idiots here because of the 30% revenue thing (witch again is my own personal opinion).
Then i asked Neobond if he could explain to me on why he then removed my comments when he clearly are lying to me about calling users for idiots.
Then he just replied and said No. Basicly he refused to give me any explanation at all on this, witch is rather strange coming from an admin.
Then i asked why he wouldn't explain it to me. But he didn't say anything after that for a long time. Then i got angry and said that if he didn't answer within 6 hours to me with some explanations on why he did remove my 2 comments and gave me a warning, then i would bring this case further with the other admins (he was clearly taking me as threatening him by saying that).
3-4 mins after that, he just removed the whole conversation about this. Then i wrote him a personal message and asked why he removed the conversation.
4-5 mins after that, he banned me from the forum.
Is that the way to treat their users on the Neowin forum?
To just give their users a big ass "f*** you" finger because someone said something one of the admins didn't like personally?
I wouldn't mind the warning and the 2 deleted comments if he actually could have explained to me with the truth on WHY i got that warning and got those 2 comments removed. Also that he could have provided some evidences on what i was saying, right?
This is not a good way to treat their users. And absolutely not a good way for Neowins image.
He is rude and childish the way he is. So i got a ban on wrong accusations.
My original account name is 'Tom-Helge'. You can see my profile here: http://www.neowin.net/forum/user/352710-tom-helge/
If you look at my profile, you see that i have the whole 30 comments after 2 of my comments was removed since 2010 when i registered my user.
Take a look at those comments i have and tell me how much of a troll / fanboy i'am as Neobond claims i'am.
You simply don't find any bad comments there, not by a mile. PERIOD.
Now it's true that you might find some posts here on XDA-Developers from me where i bash or talk bad about Apple long time ago. But i have never got a warning or got banned for it. Because the moderators / admins here are way better than the admins on the Neowin webpage.
If a moderator that actually owns an iPhone (yes Neobond told me that he had an iPhone) is going to mess with their users just because someone says something negative about the brand he loves / uses, then he better get another job to do, seriously (it stink Apple fanboy a long long way by the way he told me he uses an iPhone and the way he talked to me after he removed the negative comments about Apple).
I have now been trying to contact Neowin it self of some of their admins for about 1 and a half day now without getting any responses back. So my patience is over.
Now i just want to know what you think about this whole case?
Is this the right way to treat their forum users?
Have any users here seen any similar reactions from any moderators or admins here on XDA-Developers?
Now someone might come here and say he's an admin and he's always right. Well, try to tell that to the moderator here on XDA-Developers that was about to perma ban me like 1 year ago or so, because he though i was saying many bad things (that made me break many rules here), while in reality he mixed me with another user.
He did apologize to me after that. So everyone, even as moderators or admins can do wrong things.
Now, don't take me wrong, i really like the Neowin webpage, but when some of their admins is treating their users this way, then this case deserves to be heard everywhere.
If this post is placed on the wrong place, then just move it to the right place if any mods can do that then. I couldn't find any other places to post this.
Greetings from Tom-Helge.
EDIT: I added a poll with a simple question.

Have you met M_T_M?

DirkGently said:
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Not that i know about. But i know he's a Senior Moderator.
But do you think this post shouldn't have been posted or?

Sounds like this Neobond guy made a mistake and didn't want to admit to making a mistake so he took the easy route and banned you.
But there's always two sides to a story so I can't really judge. None of the admins at XDA are douchebags though.
Sent from my Nexus 7
Stop... MUFFIN TIME!!!

DirkGently said:
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Doesn't look like he's met the rules either.

xaccers said:
Doesn't look like he's met the rules either.
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He's behaving like all those people who post on 4chan/b....
'This is Suzie... she broke my heart... this is her Facebook... spam it for love.'
Dude... chill.
M_T_M is a cool cabron.... don't compare him to some douche from Neowin...
Also, OP, as /B/ replies to people like you,
WE ARE NOT YOUR PERSONAL ARMY!!!!

XDA, the new Facebook.

ShadowLea said:
XDA, the new Facebook.
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*Like*
---------- Post added at 09:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:43 PM ----------
Sly edit, Dirk.
*thumb up*

Olo!!! :silly:
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@OP....plain and simple...once you sign up to any of these privately owned forums and agree to their terms and condition, you pretty much are at their mercy. Unless you pay a fee and expect to receive a service in exchange for money (which in that case is called a bilateral contract)....you are being a allowed into someone's house and you batter behave or you'll be booted out just like it happened.
Us SMs and Admins do our best to make sure everybody adheres to the site rules but if at any moment we feel that a member has crossed a line...banned he would be and don't really have to give any real explanation. Doesn't happen often but that's the way the cookie crumbles....
Ta OP...wish you the best and next time follow the Admin, site, Mod's suggestions.
Cheers,
M_T_M
PS: InB4L