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Hi guys, haven't been here since my WIN MOB days. Glad the place is hopping as usual.
Bionic users seem to be experiencing a total lockup on sleeping handsets. There is a rather extensive thread over Moto support and the mod seems to be paying attention.
Just popped in to ask your experiences and the frequency with which you guys are seeing this and any possible remedies.
I've seen a couple of very short threads here, but nothing with any follow-up.
Thanks,
RMD
I have had this happen on multiple occasions, the power/wake-up button stops working and the only way to get the phone back is pulling the battery. The last time it happened was last night, and even after the battery was pulled it wouldn't come back up. I only got my phone back after switching out the battery with my extended battery.
Does anyone have a link to the thread at Moto support?
Seems like it happens more often when the phone has been sleeping for longer than 30 mins for me. Go for a run, come back and can't wake the phone up. Or go to sleep and wake up in the morning with it blacked out.
This happened to me for the first time today, but it happened twice within about 2 hours. Pulling the battery was the only way to get it back.
This has been happening to me for the last few days, only things is Im rooted, I was considering unrooting until customer roms and kernels come out.... but seeing that you guys are having this issue with the phone stock.... quite weird, hopefully a firmware update will come out for this soon
I've got mine rooted and have never had this issue before. I have not removed or frozen any apps though.
Also I leave my system on performance mode in the battery profile.
In fact, I left it on my nightstand last night without plugging it in. Woke up a few times and checked the time each time and the phone always woke right up.
So, I want to say mine started locking up when I selected "in pocket detection."
I just now thought about it reading one of the post here talking about going for a jog. I just turned it off and will see if that makes a difference. I get a lock at least once a day.
I have been rooted since day 1 and have had Bloat removed since day 2 and "knock on wood" have never had this issue.
I've been getting this too. It only seems to happen at home where I have only 3g available. Are you guys that are having this happen in a 4g area or is it just 3g as well?
I had this issue on the second day and never since, but being how "lucky" I am as I post this I will have the issue...
Had this happen once to me today while i was severely multitasking then hit the power button by mistake. I gave up after about 5 seconds and pulled the battery
I have had this happen to me about 3 times now. Once during texting, once after breakfast, and once after movie. I think this is pretty damn unacceptable for a $600 device that was delayed so much.
Never had the black screen. However after long standby times the pattern screen doesn't register correctly the first few times. Unrooted.
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Luckily Chicago and the suburbs are 4g so im it all the time. So far inly in 4g has it happen to me
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Second day it happened but nothing since this and the huge 3G drop error is big on the moto site maybe an update soon
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mine did it once, but after i rooted i havent had it happen since.
Chbimmer said:
So, I want to say mine started locking up when I selected "in pocket detection."
I just now thought about it reading one of the post here talking about going for a jog. I just turned it off and will see if that makes a difference. I get a lock at least once a day.
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I had this same issue on Day 2 of having my blessid Bionic... Didn't realize why my screen kept going to sleep every 5 seconds. So after taking my phone to VZW to have it looked at (and the rep had no clue what was going on)--I realized that my in-pocket detection setting may have been the culprit.
Not happening to mine. However I do notice apps deleting themselves when transferred to my SD card. Rumor is they are prepping an update soon... I sure hope so. But the good news is the screen is growing on me, and I love the phone. It reminds me when I first bought My Samsung LED TV w/240 refresh rate. My eyes took forever to adjust, now I cant watch tv any other way.
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I had this same issue on Day 2 of having my blessid Bionic... Didn't realize why my screen kept going to sleep every 5 seconds. So after taking my phone to VZW to have it looked at (and the rep had no clue what was going on)--I realized that my in-pocket detection setting may have been the culprit.
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So, I turned in pocket detection off and it has not had an issue since I posted last.
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So, I turned in pocket detection off and it has not had an issue since I posted last.
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Good deal... Glad to hear it. It was gonna drive me nuts. This was my first time being an "early adopter". I usually wait about 3-6 months before buying a popular phone to allow all the bugs to be worked out. So getting this phone 2 days after its debut--you can see why I was nervous to have a fully-functioning phone!
im gonna take my thrill back today and get a new one! I am having trouble with the battery as many people are but I dont know if it is worse than others. I unhooked it a few minutes ago and it went from 99 percent down to 90 in about 3-4 minutes and down to 80 in another 10 minutes and im not even sure what is running in the background because I thought I had an app killer installed. anyway the other problem is that I cannot get an internet connection at all unless I am on wifi. I have unlimited data and should be able to use programs like facebook even at the university but I cannot. Does anyone think I am doing the right thing by returning the phone? sorry about the long rant
Sounds like you have a bad battery. When I first got my Nexus S I had the same problem replaced that battery through att and it has been fine ever since. Also I have noticed that some task killers cant remember witch ones in specific hurt battery life. I would take it back for a new one may as well replace the whole device if you can.
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im gonna take my thrill back today and get a new one! I am having trouble with the battery as many people are but I dont know if it is worse than others. I unhooked it a few minutes ago and it went from 99 percent down to 90 in about 3-4 minutes and down to 80 in another 10 minutes and im not even sure what is running in the background because I thought I had an app killer installed. anyway the other problem is that I cannot get an internet connection at all unless I am on wifi. I have unlimited data and should be able to use programs like facebook even at the university but I cannot. Does anyone think I am doing the right thing by returning the phone? sorry about the long rant
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The data thing definitely sounds like a bug. The battery on the other hand is normal on some new Thrills. After a week or so it should settle in and battery life gets better over time.
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Yeah, if you first got the phone it takes a few cycles before battery starts to improve. But it seems pretty bad, i would return it since you have the oppurtunity.
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Thank you for the replies, I have had this phone for about 3 weeks and I keep it plugged in at night through usb but I also have to connect it for a few hours in the daytime as well. I havent had a chance to return it but I may do so today although the wifi issue seems to be working now. maybe the At&t Network was down?
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Thank you for the replies, I have had this phone for about 3 weeks and I keep it plugged in at night through usb but I also have to connect it for a few hours in the daytime as well. I havent had a chance to return it but I may do so today although the wifi issue seems to be working now. maybe the At&t Network was down?
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A note on the battery issue? What's the signal strength like where you live? The data signal in my house is so bad that if I forget to turn wifi on after getting home from work my battery will drain close to 40% over night. My wife's Captivate does the same thing. If the signal is weak the phone will constantly poll for a stronger signal.
All that aside I would definitely still take advantage and seek a replacement while its free. If you still have issues atleadt you'll know its something correctable and not the phone.
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so i noticed for the last two days my 4g and 3g are going out not just a couple seconds either it for a good amount of time 10 to 15 minutes at a time anyone have a idea why this is or how to reslove this called verizon they don't have any outages at all worked fine for the previous 2 to 3 weeks that i had the phone with no issues what so ever...
what system and rom are you on ?
100 percent stock. Havent rooted yet
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Im having the same issue all stock as well with the latest update
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you can root and try 901 update. it seems to be a more stable radio
Not. Confident enough with a. Locked bootloader and have. To do a. Bit more research before crossing that bridge
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The locked bootloader isn't really a problem. You can still do a lot of stuff. We have some awesome roms,themes and hacks along with a great community with lots of helpful people
I can not say this will help you, but it helped me with the same problem, this is a fix I found on rootzwiki i believe, i forget the authors name but the fix is not mine and it is simple and gives me good connection for about 1-3 weeks before i have to do it again.
turn off your phone, pull battery, and sim card, replace battery and turn phone back on and let it boot up, turn phone off and replace sim card, turn phone backup, that is it. What I have read is that this refreshes your sim connection to Verizon, I have no idea if this is the case or not.
I did also find that when I activated an old phone to update some software in it and then tried to reactivate my Bionic the web site did not let me activate my sim card with the numbers it had on the card itself, so I called up Verizon and jumped through some hoops and they activated my sim card and had very good data connection after that for about a month. Just a reminder if you are rooted don't tell them that.
Hope this helps a bit.
My data still is not %100 but getting much closer when I pop the sim card in and out.
So what else is new.....
I am in Los Angeles, an area blanketed with 4G. I have a solid 4G connection at home 99.5% of the time. My first 4G phone was a Samsung Droid Charge and while I liked it I often found in my travels that I would have 0 connectivity and all my 3G friends would be surfing along just fine.
I thought it was my device and ended up going through 5 Charges and now Verizon has given me a Bionic and guess what, exact same performance (well, in terms of connectivity). I find it hard to believe that 6 phones by 2 manufacturers exhibit the same problem so concluded it had something to do with the geography of my travels and the associated towers and hand-offs.
I then read, and totally believe THIS
Thanks that worked great and you last posted good to know!!!!
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I can not say this will help you, but it helped me with the same problem, this is a fix I found on rootzwiki i believe, i forget the authors name but the fix is not mine and it is simple and gives me good connection for about 1-3 weeks before i have to do it again.
turn off your phone, pull battery, and sim card, replace battery and turn phone back on and let it boot up, turn phone off and replace sim card, turn phone backup, that is it. What I have read is that this refreshes your sim connection to Verizon, I have no idea if this is the case or not.
I did also find that when I activated an old phone to update some software in it and then tried to reactivate my Bionic the web site did not let me activate my sim card with the numbers it had on the card itself, so I called up Verizon and jumped through some hoops and they activated my sim card and had very good data connection after that for about a month. Just a reminder if you are rooted don't tell them that.
Hope this helps a bit.
My data still is not %100 but getting much closer when I pop the sim card in and out.
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Well I am on the. 901 update and on the same day I got a new sim card. And my connection was completely solid..... for two days. After that the drops were as bad as ever. I WOULD SAY AT LEAST 50% so I am trying this right now well I did already actually. IT HAS JUST DROPPED ME WHILE WRITING THIS. However it did not last long because its already back. I dunno I am just gettin tired of it. Maybe I should have spent the extra money to get the rezound. I am. Just frusterated. I really appreciate this idea. I will keep trying it for a while.
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Have had mine for close to two weeks. Data drops weren't a problem until a day or two in. Figured out that at least for me, it was my own doing. Some of you are probably the same, while others are something different.
Settings>Data & Battery Manager>Battery Mode>
From here you have several options. I had set mine up on custom one night, while half asleep, laying in the bed, playing with my new phone.
This morning it dawned on me, after thinking that it seemed a lot like Juice Defender acts when it takes a while to register data again. I went back in and changed it from a custom profile, to Performance Mode. Voila....
All day long and not single data drop.
Hope this helps some of you.
I have had 1, 5 second drop since updating to .901. I would urge anyone that is having serious data drop issues to try it. It is a signed update and is supported by Verizon and Motorola. They can't void your warranty or anything for updating to it.
How would go about. 901 do I gave to root anyway to push this to phone without root
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I just got an LG Optimus 2x from Wind and after *thwip*-ing the screen left and right for several hours, it came to my attention that smartphones can do a lot more than simply sliding the screen horizontally. They can do it vertically too. So after several more hours of that and 11 minutes of porn later, I decided I wanted to root this thing. Burying it in soil and sprinkling water on it didn't work for some reason so I questioned the almighty Google - it led me here.
My phone has Froyo 2.2 (I think?) and I want to gain root permissions and upgrade to CM7. At least that's what I was told on Youtube, dude named analcobra said I want CM7 and who am I to question a guy named analcobra?
Any help is appreciated, I'll post a pic of my tits in return.
well first off welcome to xda, secondly all the info you need is right here just use the search fucntion, people dont like it when you dont use it lol,
i wish i could help you root your phone etc, but i have only just got the o2x myself , did have previous phones but each phone has a different way of getting root etc,
Just download superoneclick, follow instructions, root, download rom manager off android market to flash a recovery image, download cm7 to the root of your sdcard, reboot into recovery and flash cm7 the end, tits please?
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I just got an LG Optimus 2x from Wind and after *thwip*-ing the screen left and right for several hours, it came to my attention that smartphones can do a lot more than simply sliding the screen horizontally. They can do it vertically too. So after several more hours of that and 11 minutes of porn later, I decided I wanted to root this thing. Burying it in soil and sprinkling water on it didn't work for some reason so I questioned the almighty Google - it led me here.
My phone has Froyo 2.2 (I think?) and I want to gain root permissions and upgrade to CM7. At least that's what I was told on Youtube, dude named analcobra said I want CM7 and who am I to question a guy named analcobra?
Any help is appreciated, I'll post a pic of my tits in return.
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Dude, you're funny.
Congrats to both of you for your new toys and welcome to XDA.
My personal recommendation, is to read around, stay at stock for a week. Root it maybe, stay for another week or 2, before choosing the ROM that you want to try first.
Staying on stock with all LG crapware and stuff will allow you to:
1) Know if there are any hardware issues your phone might have which should prompt you to return it to the store.
2) Allow you to appreciate rooting and custom ROMs better.
I also recommend lurking on the Android development threads and back reading maybe 5 pages of the more active threads. That way, you'll know what the pros and cons of each ROM is. And you'll know what you'll get yourself into after flashing. (So you don't cry out that you don't have FM radio when you just flashed an ICS ROM.)
My immediate recommendations for 1st time CyanogenMod flashers would be Temasek's CM7 of course. As it is a very active thread, and support is definitely abundant.
Anyway, adjust your LCD brightness, and prepare to read stuff.
Above all, have fun.
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I just got an LG Optimus 2x from Wind and after *thwip*-ing the screen left and right for several hours, it came to my attention that smartphones can do a lot more than simply sliding the screen horizontally. They can do it vertically too. So after several more hours of that and 11 minutes of porn later, I decided I wanted to root this thing. Burying it in soil and sprinkling water on it didn't work for some reason so I questioned the almighty Google - it led me here.
My phone has Froyo 2.2 (I think?) and I want to gain root permissions and upgrade to CM7. At least that's what I was told on Youtube, dude named analcobra said I want CM7 and who am I to question a guy named analcobra?
Any help is appreciated, I'll post a pic of my tits in return.
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All the folks are right above, proceed accordingly.
However, keep in mind that your device is not an O2X(P990) but a G2X(P999), so to prevent yourself from some hassle(bricking your phone,etc.), check the T-Mobile G2X thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1114
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However, keep in mind that your device is not an O2X(P990) but a G2X(P999), so to prevent yourself from some hassle(bricking your phone,etc.), check the T-Mobile G2X thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1114
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Thanks, probably would have missed that.
Also, what's with the battery on this thing? I switched my phone off last night (at 62%) and when I turned it on this morning, it was at 25%. Is it supposed to lose that much power even while it's turned off, or do I just have a faulty device?[/color]
Damn, that's bad. Is it a new phone? I only lose 3-4 percent a night when it's not even turned off (just the screen). But I can imagine it's the fault of the original LG ****ware, I had to install it a week ago because I bricked my phone, and after 2 minutes of the CLEAN install it was already lagging heavily.
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Thanks, probably would have missed that.
Also, what's with the battery on this thing? I switched my phone off last night (at 62%) and when I turned it on this morning, it was at 25%. Is it supposed to lose that much power even while it's turned off, or do I just have a faulty device?[/color]
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How new is your phone? You might just need to drain the batt, then charge it to full.
If it still happens, something's wrong with your phone. Take it back to the shop.
Stock froyo roms only use 1% of battery on idle. (2g network use only. No wifi or gps.)
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The phone's brand new, I got it like two days ago. The battery was already really low when I got it so I let it die and then charged it back up to like 90% before unplugging it. I'll drain it, charge it again, and then see how things go before returning it I guess. It lost 1% (with the screen turned) off in the last 12 minutes. D:
I don't have a data plan on this (aside from the free 100mb that comes with Wind25) so I had Wind disable the data on it. I also turned off the wifi before turning the phone off last night because I thought it'd save power. Would that have anything to do with it or is my inner noob showing?
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I don't have a data plan on this (aside from the free 100mb that comes with Wind25) so I had Wind disable the data on it. I also turned off the wifi before turning the phone off last night because I thought it'd save power. Would that have anything to do with it or is my inner noob showing?
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Yes. Turning off wifi if you're not going to use it would help.
Having an enabled wifi either:
1) Keeps searching for networks that it can connect to
2) Once connected, will background sync/update certain apps. (i.e. Google Play)
I just noticed that if I do things that are supposed to conserve battery power, they use up more. Switching to 2g only, turning off wifi, etc. I lost 5% in one hour doing that, but when I turned everything back on, I only lost 1% in one hour.
In any case, the battery seems to be doing a little better than yesterday, maybe I just have to drain/charge it a few more times to sort it out? Has anyone else ever had similar problems before?
Gavin, I'm a new smart phone user too and have the same phone from windmobile and the first thing I noticed about the phone was how quickly the battery can drain. I thought it was defective or something but no, that's how it is. Mine would be dead from a full charge in less than 14 hours and that's without any usage, which is shocking and made me consider cancelling my plan. I do have data running however. Anyway, there are a bunch of apps available that can preserve the battery life. I've tried 3 or 4 and the last one (just found it 2 days ago from the Play Store) is the best by far. It's called "battery defender". I fully charged my phone yesterday and after a whole day (24 hrs) I checked the battery status and it showed 90% left (the app adds a battery icon that shows % left). Pretty damn good for a phone that used to be dead in less than 14 hours. I'm extremely happy. You can also try "juice defender" (the first app I tried) but that will probably give you 2 1/2 days on a full charge, which isn't bad.
BTW, draining and charging the batt won't do much if anything at all and in fact it ISN'T recommended that you let it drain below 20%.
Check out those apps and download one. They're free and they DO work. Also, get yourself a car batt charger too and maybe an extra battery.
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I just noticed that if I do things that are supposed to conserve battery power, they use up more. Switching to 2g only, turning off wifi, etc. I lost 5% in one hour doing that, but when I turned everything back on, I only lost 1% in one hour.
In any case, the battery seems to be doing a little better than yesterday, maybe I just have to drain/charge it a few more times to sort it out? Has anyone else ever had similar problems before?
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No need to repeat cycling the battery. You can maybe do it once every 2 months and that's plenty for Lithium Ions.
Electroman is right. Optimum charging cycles go rom discharging only to 20%, then charging back up to 80%. And repeat.
About your battery being worse when you actually disabled your network stuff. I'm thinking you have apps or widgets that are configured to update every so often. And with the network out, they keep on refreshing themselves.
I personally didn't see huge gains from Juice Defender, but those batt saving apps are definitely worth a try.
Wonder if wind is putting any dodgy apps on the phone that use battery up?
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@ Elecktroman: Thanks, I'll give Battery Defender a shot.
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Optimum charging cycles go rom discharging only to 20%, then charging back up to 80%.
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That's good to know. Why is it best to stop at 80% though? Just curious. .-.
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@ Elecktroman: Thanks, I'll give Battery Defender a shot.
That's good to know. Why is it best to stop at 80% though? Just curious. .-.
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Cuz the voltage gets high and reduces the life of the battery. Sort of an increase in MAH at the risk of overcharging and slowly killing the battery. 20-80% is ideal but **** that!
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GavinGill said:
@ Elecktroman: Thanks, I'll give Battery Defender a shot.
That's good to know. Why is it best to stop at 80% though? Just curious. .-.
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Mungulz actually gave a pretty good summary. For more details though, you can check out this Lifehacker article:
http://lifehacker.com/5875162/how-often-should-i-charge-my-gadgets-battery-to-prolong-its-lifespan
Hello.
Yesterday I received my htc one.
So far so good but there is something that does not have me happy.
Is the battery life, I had loaded all tonight at 9:00 unplugging and went to work.
At this time I have 39% of battery, and use only a little web browsing, whatsapp and twitter, but not much, I think it was downloaded too use it and die, and all this with the power saving mode activated.
You think, what should I do?
Thank you.
I had a a similar experience during my first couple of days using my One but it seems to have sorted itself out now. I noticed having it on wifi seems to use less power than mobile data if that helps.
Wait a week or so before forming an opinion. As with many smart phones it takes time for the battery to bed in and be fully calibrated. My battery life is superb. I've used my one today heavily with music playing non stop and it's still on 70%.
I wouldn't be worried at all. Mine was the same when I first got it but I wasn't worried because I've had the same thing with every phone I've had in the past few years.
Give it a chance to hit full stride. If it does turn out to be an actual problem, which I strongly doubt, then you'll get a replacement. Nothing to be concerned about.
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Mine was poor the first one or two days and now it's fantastic. Give it a few more charging cycles.
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Thank you all for the answers, the truth is that I think it has improved, and as you load and 2 cycles and it seems that if it improves enough.
Thank you very much for the help!
Also keep in mind the first few days you own a new device you are using it a lot more because you are checking it out all the time.
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